PILOT SPIN

Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on March 07, 2020, 11:31:23 AM

Title: Geofence warrants
Post by: Rush on March 07, 2020, 11:31:23 AM
I keep my location services off as much as possible.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/google-tracked-his-bike-ride-past-burglarized-home-made-him-n1151761
Title: Re: Geofence warrants
Post by: You Only Live Twice on March 07, 2020, 11:52:36 AM
I keep my location services off as much as possible.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/google-tracked-his-bike-ride-past-burglarized-home-made-him-n1151761

Read that earlier.. Scary stuff.
Title: Re: Geofence warrants
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 07, 2020, 12:36:56 PM
There is no legitimate reason for Google to save past user location data on their servers. If the user wants to keep such data, it could be stored on their phone or in the user’s encrypted cloud data.
Title: Re: Geofence warrants
Post by: Anthony on March 07, 2020, 12:41:09 PM
There is no legitimate reason for Google to save past user location data on their servers. If the user wants to keep such data, it could be stored on their phone or in the user’s encrypted cloud data.

Google, EZ Pass, Ebay, and many others store data like that, but I agree, they shouldn't be doing that.  Huge invasion of privacy.  1984 has come and gone. 
Title: Re: Geofence warrants
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 07, 2020, 12:52:49 PM
Google, EZ Pass, Ebay, and many others store data like that, but I agree, they shouldn't be doing that.  Huge invasion of privacy.  1984 has come and gone.

As far as I can tell Apple’s privacy policy and supporting tech makes it pretty much impossible for such warrants to work on Apple maps:
https://www.apple.com/privacy/features/ (https://www.apple.com/privacy/features/)
Privacy is one selling point that Apple can stress that Google can’t. Apple sells devices while Google sells info on the “free” services it offers. As a result, you’re a customer of Apple and a product of Google.
Title: Re: Geofence warrants
Post by: Rush on March 07, 2020, 01:02:02 PM
There is no legitimate reason for Google to save past user location data on their servers. If the user wants to keep such data, it could be stored on their phone or in the user’s encrypted cloud data.

THIS. They use it to crunch data I’m sure for advertising targeting but we can see how it is being misused for nefarious big government purposes.

The thing that pissed me off is they gave the guy 7 days to get a court order blocking it, when they SHOULD have made the police get a specific warrant to release it. That’s ass backwards.

The guy or his family is out thousands in attorney fees.

This sort of thing is why I use search engines based on foreign soil that do not save my searches, not Google.
Title: Re: Geofence warrants
Post by: Rush on March 07, 2020, 01:10:17 PM
As far as I can tell Apple’s privacy policy and supporting tech makes it pretty much impossible for such warrants to work on Apple maps:
https://www.apple.com/privacy/features/ (https://www.apple.com/privacy/features/)
Privacy is one selling point that Apple can stress that Google can’t. Apple sells devices while Google sells info on the “free” services it offers. As a result, you’re a customer of Apple and a product of Google.

You seem to be correct, Apple requires a warrant. Good to know.

https://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/law-enforcement-guidelines-us.pdf


Title: Re: Geofence warrants
Post by: nddons on March 07, 2020, 01:45:34 PM
THIS. They use it to crunch data I’m sure for advertising targeting but we can see how it is being misused for nefarious big government purposes.

The thing that pissed me off is they gave the guy 7 days to get a court order blocking it, when they SHOULD have made the police get a specific warrant to release it. That’s ass backwards.

The guy or his family is out thousands in attorney fees.

This sort of thing is why I use search engines based on foreign soil that do not save my searches, not Google.
https://duckduckgo.com/
Title: Re: Geofence warrants
Post by: Rush on March 07, 2020, 01:59:18 PM
https://duckduckgo.com/

Yep and Startpage.com
Title: Re: Geofence warrants
Post by: TimRB on March 07, 2020, 04:31:26 PM
nevermind
Title: Re: Geofence warrants
Post by: Username on March 07, 2020, 09:03:27 PM
Yep and Startpage.com
And a Tor browser.
Title: Re: Geofence warrants
Post by: Rush on March 08, 2020, 02:05:34 AM
And a Tor browser.

The ultimate go to.