PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Ron22 on March 12, 2020, 10:35:58 AM
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Not trying to get into the debate if we are panicking or not.
The Dow has dropped from 29,568 to 21,297.
Events are getting canceled. I know big deal no sports, but what about all the business that make money off these events (Bars, restaurants, etc)
The Dems (news) keep talking about Trump not being prepared for this.
A month ago I would of said Trump had a 90% of getting reelected.
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Not trying to get into the debate if we are panicking or not.
The Dow has dropped from 29,568 to 21,297.
Events are getting canceled. I know big deal no sports, but what about all the business that make money off these events (Bars, restaurants, etc)
The Dems (news) keep talking about Trump not being prepared for this.
A month ago I would of said Trump had a 90% of getting reelected.
November is a long time away, so really it's hard to tell. Just keep in mind the characters behind the curtains that are manipulating all of this, and to what their desired outcome is.
My personal opinion is this will right itself within 45 to 60 days, and the market will roar back again, thus making this a distant memory. Now, had the player had this in October? New ballgame.
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November is a long time away, so really it's hard to tell. Just keep in mind the characters behind the curtains that are manipulating all of this, and to what their desired outcome is.
My personal opinion is this will right itself within 45 to 60 days, and the market will roar back again, thus making this a distant memory. Now, had the player had this in October? New ballgame.
I think it is more like 30 - 45 days and the market comes back.
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I think it is more like 30 - 45 days and the market comes back.
Businesses are going to see a hit to the bottom line at least through the first half of the second quarter. Second quarter reports and mid-year outlooks wont be out until July, so I’d guess the market wont begin heading up till then. Likewise sunny summer weather will be increasing many people’s vitamin D, which is antiviral because it boosts the immune system and is likely one reason colds are seasonal. See “Vitamin D and the anti-viral state” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3308600/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3308600/)
Also, one good site for checking current S&P 500 valuation ratios is https://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-pe-ratio (https://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-pe-ratio)
Graphs of PE ratio, Shiller PE, book to value, price to sales, and some other stats are there along with long period mean, median, min, and max values. They’ve all been indicating the market has been historically overvalued for a long time. The charts suggest to me that the market might lose another ~20% (as of this moment with S&P @ ~2500) but perhaps not much more. At least over the last 30 years the bargain hunters seem to come out in force at PE ratios of ~15.
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Really really hard to say. Too many unknowns. We've never had such an interconnected economy shut down just like that. And no one knows how long this coronavirus epidemic will last. Plenty of cases down south, so I could be wrong about warm weather putting the kibosh this thing. We could be in for a long stretch indeed. The repercussions from what's going on in the CONUS are hard to judge. Conventions, sporting events and meetings all cancelled. What's this going to do to the airlines, the cruise ship industry, and the hospitality industry? Very very hard to say. Anyone who says they think they know is either lying or stupid.
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With any luck businesses that sent manufacturing to China will wake up and bring the manufacturing back to the US which in turn will help boost the economy even more.
We are not near the number of we had during the swine flu at this point. I think it is good that all of these events and sports and such are shutting down as it will help contain it. Warm weather will be coming that will help tamp it down also.
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With any luck businesses that sent manufacturing to China will wake up and bring the manufacturing back to the US which in turn will help boost the economy even more.
We are not near the number of we had during the swine flu at this point. I think it is good that all of these events and sports and such are shutting down as it will help contain it. Warm weather will be coming that will help tamp it down also.
And I predict LOTS of babies born next December.
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And I predict LOTS of babies born next December.
I was thinking the same thing. Corona baby boom!
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Someone that is/was on POA that has a Hotel in Texas said on Facebook that his business is down 50% for the month.
I am sure he is not the only Hotel experiencing this. Only goes to make sense that restaurants in tourist areas are affected the same. How do you make up lost revenue from Spring break that does not happen?
So I am not sure the market picks back up so quickly.
But I do agree November is a ways off and people have short memories.
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Someone that is/was on POA that has a Hotel in Texas said on Facebook that his business is down 50% for the month.
I am sure he is not the only Hotel experiencing this. Only goes to make sense that restaurants in tourist areas are affected the same. How do you make up lost revenue from Spring break that does not happen?
So I am not sure the market picks back up so quickly.
But I do agree November is a ways off and people have short memories.
That someone would be Jay and Mary Honeck. He has an aviation themed hotel in Port Aransas,TX. Business is way off, especially considering that spring break has happened.
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That someone would be Jay and Mary Honeck. He has an aviation themed hotel in Port Aransas,TX. Business is way off, especially considering that spring break has happened.
That sucks. I always liked them, and I hope they are ok.
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That someone would be Jay and Mary Honeck. He has an aviation themed hotel in Port Aransas,TX. Business is way off, especially considering that spring break has happened.
Yes that is them, I did not want to name them and have people bad mouth them. You know how that happens here sometimes.
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I went out to eat last night, and the restaurant was packed. Drove by others that had full parking lots.
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Yes except the Democrats are hoping to God the virus pandemic and associated economic crash will pull it off for them in November. This is an amazing crossroads in history. Will it? Or will it ensure Trump’s victory even more? I can see it going either way depending on the details and the timing over the rest of the year.
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Yes except the Democrats are hoping to God the virus pandemic and associated economic crash will pull it off for them in November. This is an amazing crossroads in history. Will it? Or will it ensure Trump’s victory even more? I can see it going either way depending on the details and the timing over the rest of the year.
So right now we have 2 dim candidates left. One is promising to erase the previous tax cuts in addition to raising even more taxes, destroy segments of industry which will result in massive job loss, open the borders and allow mass illegal immigration and try to implement single payer government run healthcare, and gun confiscation. The other guy wants to implement full on socialism and even communism.
Sorry, I just don't see, even if the economy stays in decline, that they are offering an alternative.
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So right now we have 2 dim candidates left. One is promising to erase the previous tax cuts in addition to raising even more taxes, destroy segments of industry which will result in massive job loss, open the borders and allow mass illegal immigration and try to implement single payer government run healthcare, and gun confiscation. The other guy wants to implement full on socialism and even communism.
Sorry, I just don't see, even if the economy stays in decline, that they are offering an alternative.
Never underestimate the deep stupidity of a significant portion of the American people.
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Never underestimate the deep stupidity of a significant portion of the American people.
Understood.
But we're back to the message thing. I just don't see Biden's or Bernie's message carrying them through.
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So right now we have 2 dim candidates left. One is promising to erase the previous tax cuts in addition to raising even more taxes, destroy segments of industry which will result in massive job loss, open the borders and allow mass illegal immigration and try to implement single payer government run healthcare, and gun confiscation. The other guy wants to implement full on socialism and even communism.
Sorry, I just don't see, even if the economy stays in decline, that they are offering an alternative.
Remember, the MEDIA is 95% or more DEMOCRAT. They make all this Communism and Totalitarian government control, seem wonderful. Education is telling young people that it is all good also. So they are primed as they have grown up to WANT to believe what the Democrat/Media alliance is telling them.
Indoctrination and propaganda WORKS. It is proven, and we are being bombarded with it from the LEFT.
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Remember, the MEDIA is 95% or more DEMOCRAT. They make all this Communism and Totalitarian government control, seem wonderful. Education is also telling young people that it is all good also. So they are primed as they have grown up to WANT to believe what the Democrat/Media alliance is telling them.
Indoctrination and propaganda WORKS. It is proven, and we are being bombarded with it from the LEFT.
I don't disagree.
But historically, look at the elections over the past 50 years. Which candidate won by promising tax raises, destroying industry and raising unemployment, opening borders to mass illegal immigration and gun confiscation? Biden is on record promising all of the above.
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I don't disagree.
But historically, look at the elections over the past 50 years. Which candidate won by promising tax raises, destroying industry and raising unemployment, opening borders to mass illegal immigration and gun confiscation? Biden is on record promising all of the above.
If anyoone was paying attention to (bill) clinton, he said he'd raise taxes, he'd lower taxes, and he'd also leave taxes alone.
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Understood.
But we're back to the message thing. I just don't see Biden's or Bernie's message carrying them through.
But to Anthony’s point above, people who have been totally brainwashed to hate and despise Donald Trump, and to believe that Trump is the anti-Christ, and that his re-election will result in the end of civilization as we know it, which is what Pelosi said pretty much verbatim the other day, won’t care that the Democrat message is vapid and uninspiring. They are convinced that whatever Trump’s message is, is a seductive lie direct from Satan, and that they must vote for the Democrat regardless of the message, in order to save the world from a fate worse than death at the hands of the Trump monster.
Hatred that deep will transcend any messaging. The real hope is that maybe the hateful core isn’t the majority of Democrats, and enough of them are skeptical enough of biased media that they’ll begin to search for alternative information and reassess their party affiliation now that it’s gone full on communist. Many Democrats are still basically freedom loving Americans who just need to step away from CNN for five minutes and have a moment of thinking critically for themselves.
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If anyoone was paying attention to (bill) clinton, he said he'd raise taxes, he'd lower taxes, and he'd also leave taxes alone.
But look at how he crafted the message. Remember "It's the economy, stupid!"
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I don't disagree.
But historically, look at the elections over the past 50 years. Which candidate won by promising tax raises, destroying industry and raising unemployment, opening borders to mass illegal immigration and gun confiscation? Biden is on record promising all of the above.
But this is an anomaly. Trump puts us in uncharted territory because of the unprecedented challenge he is posing to the ruling elite. In all other elections it was one politician against another, despite ideological differences. A level playing field if you will, on which the message mattered. But this time it is one politician with entrenched deep state machinations plus complicit media behind him, against an upstart outsider, with nothing behind him but a lot of pissed off average joes.
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But to Anthony’s point above, people who have been totally brainwashed to hate and despise Donald Trump, and to believe that Trump is the anti-Christ, and that his re-election will result in the end of civilization as we know it, which is what Pelosi said pretty much verbatim the other day, won’t care that the Democrat message is vapid and uninspiring. They are convinced that whatever Trump’s message is, is a seductive lie direct from Satan, and that they must vote for the Democrat regardless of the message, in order to save the world from a fate worse than death at the hands of the Trump monster.
Hatred that deep will transcend any messaging. The real hope is that maybe the hateful core isn’t the majority of Democrats, and enough of them are skeptical enough of biased media that they’ll begin to search for alternative information and reassess their party affiliation now that it’s gone full on communist. Many Democrats are still basically freedom loving Americans who just need to step away from CNN for five minutes and have a moment of thinking critically for themselves.
Again, look back historically. Ronald Reagan was a doddering old fool that would start WW3, he was senile, wash rinse repeat. The media painted the picture RR was satan, and bad. But he had the winning message both times.
Same with George W Bush. OwlGore promised 4 more years of Clinton, and new taxes to combat "climate change". John Kerry promoted more government, and more taxes.
George HW Bush actually set a precedent in modern politics by succeeding a two term popular president. What bolstered his election was Dukakis, who ran a dismal campaign with essential no message. Clinton capitalized on Bush's "no new taxes" renig, as well as the vote spoiler Perot, to defeat Bush.
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I don't disagree.
But historically, look at the elections over the past 50 years. Which candidate won by promising tax raises, destroying industry and raising unemployment, opening borders to mass illegal immigration and gun confiscation? Biden is on record promising all of the above.
Obama. TWICE.
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Obama. TWICE.
Obama promised "Hope and Change". And he had a very clever campaign. The problem was John McCain, in that he was unexciting, and , once again, didn't articulate a message to the voter. McCain had ample opportunity to debunk BHO and to expand on BHO's weakness, but failed.
His second election was against Mitt Romney. I don't have to say anymore.
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Obama promised "Hope and Change". And he had a very clever campaign. The problem was John McCain, in that he was unexciting, and , once again, didn't articulate a message to the voter. McCain had ample opportunity to debunk BHO and to expand on BHO's weakness, but failed.
His second election was against Mitt Romney. I don't have to say anymore.
Obama got elected because he was an articulate (to many, not me), good looking Black man, and people riddled with White guilt voted for him. As you say he could just promise nebulous "Hope and Change" and got away with it, but anyone with half a brain knew he was a tax and spend, government can do everything and should control everything kind of guy.
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Obama promised "Hope and Change". And he had a very clever campaign. The problem was John McCain, in that he was unexciting, and , once again, didn't articulate a message to the voter. McCain had ample opportunity to debunk BHO and to expand on BHO's weakness, but failed.
His second election was against Mitt Romney. I don't have to say anymore.
Which exactly proves my point about appeal.
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Again, look back historically. Ronald Reagan was a doddering old fool that would start WW3, he was senile, wash rinse repeat. The media painted the picture RR was satan, and bad. But he had the winning message both times.
Same with George W Bush. OwlGore promised 4 more years of Clinton, and new taxes to combat "climate change". John Kerry promoted more government, and more taxes.
George HW Bush actually set a precedent in modern politics by succeeding a two term popular president. What bolstered his election was Dukakis, who ran a dismal campaign with essential no message. Clinton capitalized on Bush's "no new taxes" renig, as well as the vote spoiler Perot, to defeat Bush.
True, the media did make it not quite a level playing field even then. Don't get me wrong, I am hoping to God you are correct and you arguing the point helps ease my anxiety which is pretty high right now.
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True, the media did make it not quite a level playing field even then. Don't get me wrong, I am hoping to God you are correct and you arguing the point helps ease my anxiety which is pretty high right now.
Trump's #1 reason for reelection is the ECONOMY and Jobs. Now the Democrat/Media alliance has a foothold on destroying that, and legitimately stating we will be in a Recession. Of course it is ALL due to Trump's mishandling of the Virus.
We know none of this is Trump's fault, and he gives the best chance of recovery from this mess, but you are NOT going to hear that.
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Which exactly proves my point about appeal.
OK, with that in mind, look at the dwiddles, Biden and Bernie. What's the appeal?
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OK, with that in mind, look at the dwiddles, Biden and Bernie. What's the appeal?
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OK, with that in mind, look at the dwiddles, Biden and Bernie. What's the appeal?
They aren't mean, grab em by the p*ssy, Trump.
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For the far left types, you are correct. But for those in the middle, they won't buy it. Look at the polling from the Trump rally's, where approximately 15 to 20 % identify as democrat. These aren't the far left of the party.
Reagan appealed to the centrist democrats, which became known as the "Reagan Democrats".
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They aren't mean, grab em by the p*ssy, Trump.
Look at the Biden vids, "you're a lying dog face pony soldier", or "You're full of shit!", or "Go vote for someone else!". And many more. There are also vids of Bernie going ballistic, not to mention his previous writings which don't shed a good light.
Right now the MSM is doubling down to protect Biden. However, the vids are out there, and Biden is his own worse enemy. Even the Biden team is getting exasperated over trying to control him.
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Look at the Biden vids, "you're a lying dog face pony soldier", or "You're full of shit!", or "Go vote for someone else!". And many more. There are also vids of Bernie going ballistic, not to mention his previous writings which don't shed a good light.
Right now the MSM is doubling down to protect Biden. However, the vids are out there, and Biden is his own worse enemy. Even the Biden team is getting exasperated over trying to control him.
Biden's gaffs, and rants and Bernie's nutty rants are NOT played over, and over, and over by the Media to make them look bad. I still think Trump will be reelected, but it is not the sure thing it was prior to this Virus fiasco.
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Not trying to get into the debate if we are panicking or not.
The Dow has dropped from 29,568 to 21,297.
Events are getting canceled. I know big deal no sports, but what about all the business that make money off these events (Bars, restaurants, etc)
The Dems (news) keep talking about Trump not being prepared for this.
A month ago I would of said Trump had a 90% of getting reelected.
The elderly cohort that is dying from the virus at the greatest rate is also the one that votes mostly for conservatives. There is a conspiracy in there somewhere!
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The elderly cohort that is dying from the virus at the greatest rate is also the one that votes mostly for conservatives. There is a conspiracy in there somewhere!
Speaking of the elderly, we have finally decided to take away mom’s voter card. She is completely totally confused and has no clue what is going on or how she herself even stands. She asked my sister the other day, “Am I a Democrat or a Republican?” She has no idea what to think on any issue and cannot recall her own value system.
She is easily swayed in any direction by whomever is in front of her. But more important is that she is very traumatized and fatigued by the process, by going anywhere and doing anything, really. At this point it is inhumane and cruel to put her through it. Even if we helped her vote by absentee ballot, she would agonize over it, her anxiety through the roof, terrified she might vote for “the wrong person” yet having no idea who the “right person” is. She would end up being heavily coached by whichever child is helping her fill out the ballot, and it essentially becomes an extra vote for that child, and that is immoral and unethical and my sister and I won’t do it. I don’t know what our brother the liberal would do, but even he probably recognizes that it’s wrong to put her through the trauma.
Now, I would love to get her to vote for Trump in November. She lives in NC which could go either way this election and every vote matters. But it would be wrong of me to manipulate her like that. But thinking about this has made me wonder how many other elderly are used like that by someone in their family?
It’s fair to influence anyone with your opinions, but when a person has cognitive issues or otherwise mentally vulnerable that’s when it becomes wrong.
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Trump's #1 reason for reelection is the ECONOMY and Jobs. Now the Democrat/Media alliance has a foothold on destroying that, and legitimately stating we will be in a Recession. Of course it is ALL due to Trump's mishandling of the Virus.
That is what I was getting at. I think the real question is will it recover by November.
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That is what I was getting at. I think the real question is will it recover by November.
No one has a crystal ball. What I believe it will come back, but then we will see another (maybe several) more attempts to instill fear into the populace.
I told a friend the other day this is only the beginning, we're in for a wild ride through November.
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Speaking of the elderly, we have finally decided to take away mom’s voter card. She is completely totally confused and has no clue what is going on or how she herself even stands. She asked my sister the other day, “Am I a Democrat or a Republican?” She has no idea what to think on any issue and cannot recall her own value system.
She is easily swayed in any direction by whomever is in front of her. But more important is that she is very traumatized and fatigued by the process, by going anywhere and doing anything, really. At this point it is inhumane and cruel to put her through it. Even if we helped her vote by absentee ballot, she would agonize over it, her anxiety through the roof, terrified she might vote for “the wrong person” yet having no idea who the “right person” is. She would end up being heavily coached by whichever child is helping her fill out the ballot, and it essentially becomes an extra vote for that child, and that is immoral and unethical and my sister and I won’t do it. I don’t know what our brother the liberal would do, but even he probably recognizes that it’s wrong to put her through the trauma.
Now, I would love to get her to vote for Trump in November. She lives in NC which could go either way this election and every vote matters. But it would be wrong of me to manipulate her like that. But thinking about this has made me wonder how many other elderly are used like that by someone in their family?
It’s fair to influence anyone with your opinions, but when a person has cognitive issues or otherwise mentally vulnerable that’s when it becomes wrong.
That's one of the ways Obama won. People would come into retirement homes to help older people vote. For those residents who didn't understand, the voting helpers filled out the ballot for them and marked Obama.
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That's one of the ways Obama won. People would come into retirement homes to help older people vote. For those residents who didn't understand, the voting helpers filled out the ballot for them and marked Obama.
In California that's called "Ballot Harvesting", and it's legal.
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In California that's called "Ballot Harvesting", and it's legal.
F-cking Commifornia.
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That makes me want to vomit.
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That makes me want to vomit.
It is essentially tyranny forcing their will on you unfairly through a candidate/politician. It is stuff civil wars, and revolutions are made of.
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It is essentially tyranny forcing their will on you unfairly through a candidate/politician. It is stuff civil wars, and revolutions are made of.
The good guys behave honorably and the self righteous left cheats.
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Yes that is them, I did not want to name them and have people bad mouth them. You know how that happens here sometimes.
I’ve known him online since POA and met them a couple times at his OSH party in the North 40. Good people.
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God, the media/left hatchet job on Trump over the virus is just terrible. Like he can really do much to stop the spread of a disease without draconian measures.
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God, the media/left hatchet job on Trump over the virus is just terrible. Like he can really do much to stop the spread of a disease without draconian measures.
Yea, but notice how there is no mention of Russia!, Ukraine, impeachment? Gee, all of that "If we don't remove him immediately because of ____________" has vanished.
Funny how that works..........
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Speaking of the elderly, we have finally decided to take away mom’s voter card. She is completely totally confused and has no clue what is going on or how she herself even stands. She asked my sister the other day, “Am I a Democrat or a Republican?” She has no idea what to think on any issue and cannot recall her own value system.
She is easily swayed in any direction by whomever is in front of her. But more important is that she is very traumatized and fatigued by the process, by going anywhere and doing anything, really. At this point it is inhumane and cruel to put her through it. Even if we helped her vote by absentee ballot, she would agonize over it, her anxiety through the roof, terrified she might vote for “the wrong person” yet having no idea who the “right person” is. She would end up being heavily coached by whichever child is helping her fill out the ballot, and it essentially becomes an extra vote for that child, and that is immoral and unethical and my sister and I won’t do it. I don’t know what our brother the liberal would do, but even he probably recognizes that it’s wrong to put her through the trauma.
Now, I would love to get her to vote for Trump in November. She lives in NC which could go either way this election and every vote matters. But it would be wrong of me to manipulate her like that. But thinking about this has made me wonder how many other elderly are used like that by someone in their family?
It’s fair to influence anyone with your opinions, but when a person has cognitive issues or otherwise mentally vulnerable that’s when it becomes wrong.
My 86 year old mom is the same way. Until 3 years ago she lived in Illinois near my brother, who is very conservative. She she considered herself conservative. Liked Mark Levin, etc.
Then she moved in with my 58-year old man-hating, far far far-left spinster sister in Bethesda. Now she says Trump is an asshole, etc etc etc. and has adopted the liberal talking points verbatim, obviously coming from my sister.
She is maliable and easily influenced. My sister is sinister so I’m not surprised.
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My 86 year old mom is the same way. Until 3 years ago she lived in Illinois near my brother, who is very conservative. She she considered herself conservative. Liked Mark Levin, etc.
Then she moved in with my 58-year old man-hating, far far far-left spinster sister in Bethesda. Now she says Trump is an asshole, etc etc etc. and has adopted the liberal talking points verbatim, obviously coming from my sister.
She is maliable and easily influenced. My sister is sinister so I’m not surprised.
Thanksgiving dinners must be a blast.
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Thanksgiving dinners must be a blast.
I have cousins that are big Progressives, and Obama supporters. They still have a picture of the Obama family on their refrigerator. I left NRA "American Rifleman" magazines I had brought and cut off the name and address mixed in with their restroom reading material, and mixed in with the magazines on their coffee table. ;)
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Thanksgiving dinners must be a blast.
I haven’t seen my sister in probably 5 years. I’ll see her next at my mom’s eventual funeral.
“You can pick your friends but you can’t pick your family.”
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God, the media/left hatchet job on Trump over the virus is just terrible. Like he can really do much to stop the spread of a disease without draconian measures.
That's one nice thing about being able to see an entire news conference, including the question/answer period. You can see and hear with your own eyes and ears everything the president had to say. I just finished watching the president's coronavirus presentation, immediately followed, of course, with the network talking heads telling us we just saw. Their bias comes through loud and clear when you can see them spinning the news according to their agenda right on the spot.
Tim
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That's one nice thing about being able to see an entire news conference, including the question/answer period. You can see and hear with your own eyes and ears everything the president had to say. I just finished watching the president's coronavirus presentation, immediately followed, of course, with the network talking heads telling us we just saw. Their bias comes through loud and clear when you can see them spinning the news according to their agenda right on the spot.
Tim
I purposely watched it on NBC, one of the worst Trump hating networks, if not THE worst. The first thing the talking head said after the press conference was that the President was giving mixed messages, and confusing people. I watched the same press conference and saw none of that. He was very clear in his statements as were the others on his team that sometimes spoke and answered questions.
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The first thing the talking head said after the press conference was that the President was giving mixed messages, and confusing people. I watched the same press conference and saw none of that.
I also watched NBC, although not by choice. When that pencil-necked little prick started talking about mixed messages I muttered an obscenity and walked off. I sometimes can't believe there are people who are so simple-minded that they can't see, plain as day, how they're being manipulated by the press.
Tim
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The DOW rose 1100 points during that presser.
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The DOW rose 1100 points during that presser.
I feel a lot better after it, I’m amazed at what they’re doing. Google, Walmart, cvs, target, Walgreens, quest diagnostics, lab Corp, Roche, insurance companies, all working together with CDC and the president to come up with an unprecedented nationwide testing system, which will be the template for any future REAL plague. Trump is harnessing the private sector in a way government alone could never ever do, and they’re all stepping up to the plate, it’s amazing.
You go online, do a flow chart, drive to the parking lot of your nearest Walmart or pharmacy and get tested while in your car. It’s amazing, I hope it works out like they’re planning.
Plus suspending countless burdensome regulations, like allowing doctors to practice across state lines despite not being licensed and allowing hospitals to allocate the beds and on and on, I am flabbergasted. They really thought this through. And financial help, for small business, for wage earners, for people with student loan debt, it just goes on and on.
You would think the media would praise all this. The focus is on helping us the people. I fucking love this president.
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The neverBiden movement is growing among the Democrats.
https://americanlookout.com/bad-news-for-democrats-a-never-biden-movement-is-growing-on-the-left/
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This whole effing virus thing is the Man Made Climate Change of diseases.
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This whole effing virus thing is the Man Made Climate Change of diseases.
This too will blow up in their faces.
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1238669815344254976
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Two things to keep in mind, based on facts from the wikipedia entry on him:
(1) In 1988 Biden had two brain aneurysms and underwent brain surgery to attempt to repair the damage.
(2) He has had a life-long problem with stuttering and that allegedly affects his extemporaneous speaking.
Irrespective of his political views, the first point probably makes him a poor choice even for those who agree with his views, particularly if the gaffes cannot be attributed to whatever causes stuttering.
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The neverBiden movement is growing among the Democrats.
https://americanlookout.com/bad-news-for-democrats-a-never-biden-movement-is-growing-on-the-left/
I fully expect this. Now the only question is how big is this contingent of Bernie Bro’s and how much will they depress the Dem. vote.
I have read that Bernie is getting fewer votes in primaries than he did in 2016. Who knows if those were just anti-Hillary votes, or if the former Bernie Bro’s have now matured and are warming to the idea of a Biden.
Interesting times.
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The sad thing is the virus hits the very demographic that votes right the hardest. Older folks who've been around the block, have lived the hard knocks, and know why it's so important to vote conservative.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/fj0eef/oc_coronavirus_death_rate_by_age_italy_vs_china/
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The sad thing is the virus hits the very demographic that votes right the hardest. Older folks who've been around the block, have lived the hard knocks, and know why it's so important to vote conservative.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/fj0eef/oc_coronavirus_death_rate_by_age_italy_vs_china/
I hope the election happens before all of us right-leaning voters die off.
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The sad thing is the virus hits the very demographic that votes right the hardest. Older folks who've been around the block, have lived the hard knocks, and know why it's so important to vote conservative.
https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/fj0eef/oc_coronavirus_death_rate_by_age_italy_vs_china/
Good point, but when the dust settles, the vast majority of those people will still be here to vote.
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Good point, but when the dust settles, the vast majority of those people will still be here to vote.
but then they'll be voting democrat.
(too subtle?)
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What's the mortality rate of COVID-19?
You get infected with COVID-19 kind of like getting infected with the flu.
With the flu you get sick, kind of like with COVID-19.
The flu can be deadly... kind of like with COVID-19?
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but then they'll be voting democrat.
(too subtle?)
I just don’t think so. Does this country really think Biden or Bernie would do a better job in this crisis? Biden won’t close the borders or deport anyone.
At the end of the day even the biggest pantywaists like the idea of having a daddy to take care of them.
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Biden might not have a choice.
https://www.westernjournal.com/us-virus-outbreak-mexico-suddenly-wants-border-security/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=AE&utm_campaign=can&utm_content=2020-03-17
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And here we go:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/17/uaw-calls-for-two-week-shutdown-of-big-3-auto-plants.html
And more to follow.
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And here we go:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/17/uaw-calls-for-two-week-shutdown-of-big-3-auto-plants.html
And more to follow.
And then everything will return to normal, right?
To all the people clamoring for two weeks (or three weeks or 8 weeks) of shutdown/quarantine/whatever: Do you have any idea of what criteria will be used to say it's "safe" again? Any idea at all?
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And then everything will return to normal, right?
To all the people clamoring for two weeks (or three weeks or 8 weeks) of shutdown/quarantine/whatever: Do you have any idea of what criteria will be used to say it's "safe" again? Any idea at all?
That's the problem. Who will have the BALLS to say, "ok it is safe again". We've let the Genie out of the bottle for society to shutdown. Putting him back is going to be more difficult.
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And here we go:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/17/uaw-calls-for-two-week-shutdown-of-big-3-auto-plants.html
And more to follow.
I am sure the union expects them to get paid and not use any of the sick day too.
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And you know the democrat donating UAW is more than happy to add to the chaos.