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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Ron22 on March 26, 2020, 12:23:41 PM

Title: Now unemployment
Post by: Ron22 on March 26, 2020, 12:23:41 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/25/coronavirus-bill-boosts-unemployment-benefits-covers-gig-workers.html

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The bill would offer jobless Americans $600 a week and pay 13 weeks of unemployment benefits, according to draft language of the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act.

$15 an hour on top of what the state pays you.  What the hell
Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 26, 2020, 12:37:21 PM
First we had these size notes:

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The new normal will be these size notes:

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Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: Lucifer on March 26, 2020, 12:52:20 PM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/25/coronavirus-bill-boosts-unemployment-benefits-covers-gig-workers.html

$15 an hour on top of what the state pays you.  What the hell

Dims rammed that in.  4 republicans tried to adjust it to something reasonable, and put it to vote.  The vote was 47-47, so it lost.

So now employers can tell laid off employees "Collect unemployment for 4 months, you'll make more and when it's done, you'll have a job here".    The unemployed will make an equivalent to $24/hour.

 Problem is, it's like free ice cream.  Once served, no one wants to say "OK, no more free ice cream".
Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: Ron22 on March 26, 2020, 01:14:54 PM
Dims rammed that in.  4 republicans tried to adjust it to something reasonable, and put it to vote.  The vote was 47-47, so it lost.

So now employers can tell laid off employees "Collect unemployment for 4 months, you'll make more and when it's done, you'll have a job here".    The unemployed will make an equivalent to $24/hour.

 Problem is, it's like free ice cream.  Once served, no one wants to say "OK, no more free ice cream".

My company is doing the right thing and keeping people on payroll.  With this we are now being mean. In MN underemployment pays 50% so basically anyone under $30 an hour would make more on unemployment.

Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: Ron22 on April 08, 2020, 02:33:35 PM
Now that MN announced it is paying the extra $600 some employees at work are asking why should they keep coming to work when they can make more on unemployment. I just tell them because they have to get laid off can’t collect unemployment if you quit.  Well until they change that too.


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Title: Now unemployment
Post by: Ron22 on April 08, 2020, 02:35:48 PM
Basically the Dems won and got their $15 hour min wage. Around me Target, Walmart, grocery store, and amazon are trying to add people to keep up.   Now why would anyone go there and make less then $600 a week they can on unemployment.


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Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: Ron22 on April 28, 2020, 03:20:57 PM
https://www.ibtimes.com/wage-crisis-nearly-50-workers-will-earn-more-unemployment-benefits-work-2966512

Nearly 50% Workers Will Earn More In Unemployment Benefits Than From Work


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Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2020, 03:31:07 PM
https://www.ibtimes.com/wage-crisis-nearly-50-workers-will-earn-more-unemployment-benefits-work-2966512

Nearly 50% Workers Will Earn More In Unemployment Benefits Than From Work


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As planned.  Yes, the republicans caught this, but only a few had the backbone to demand it be removed.

Fuck all of them.
Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: Bob Noel on April 28, 2020, 03:50:23 PM
https://www.ibtimes.com/wage-crisis-nearly-50-workers-will-earn-more-unemployment-benefits-work-2966512

Nearly 50% Workers Will Earn More In Unemployment Benefits Than From Work


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and then the articles complains that wages aren't high enough (rather than exploring the possibility of the benefits being too high) or any concept of competition from workers in other countries.
Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2020, 03:56:15 PM
This is the beginning of universal income.

 Watch the screams and throwing themselves on the floor when it comes time to end it. 
Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: Bob Noel on April 28, 2020, 04:23:53 PM
This is the beginning of universal income.

 Watch the screams and throwing themselves on the floor when it comes time to end it.

It won't end abruptly.  There will be extension after extension...
Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: Mr Pou on April 28, 2020, 04:33:34 PM
This is the beginning of universal income.

 Watch the screams and throwing themselves on the floor when it comes time to end it.

The price of a vote I suppose.
Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: Ron22 on April 28, 2020, 05:09:40 PM
As planned.  Yes, the republicans caught this, but only a few had the backbone to demand it be removed.

Fuck all of them.
Yep that is my issue. People need to stand up and get stuff done. 


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Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 28, 2020, 05:10:11 PM
It won't end abruptly.  There will be extension after extension...


Until at Least November
Title: Re: Now unemployment
Post by: Mr Pou on April 28, 2020, 05:12:39 PM
Yep that is my issue. People need to stand up and get stuff done. 

If you want your back scratched you have to do some scratching yourself sometimes.