PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 02, 2016, 03:41:27 PM
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I had hopes for him early on, but ... :(
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I had hopes for him early on, but ... :(
I liked him, but was getting irritated with him in recent weeks for not seeing the writing on the wall.
One down, two to go.
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It's very disappointing that such a good man has such a hard time resonating with people in the chase for the single most powerful political position on Earth.
I like Dr. Carson quite a lot as a human being, he was not a great candidate but would have made a good President. I did not agree with him on everything of substance (can't say I agree with any candidate on everything of substance though) but could have easily voted for him.
Hopefully he does continue to exert an influence over the direction our Nation is headed - which is much the same hope I had for Herman Cain (love Herman Cain).
Statistically speaking this won't move the needle much though for any of the remaining candidates - when Kasich drops out after Ohio it will be the same. The longer this is more than a two-person race the better chance Trump has of taking it all the way to the convention with an adequate if not commanding lead - which puts the pressure on the Establishment to let him run (and support him) or torpedo him at the convention. If they think they have their hands full with an insurrection now just wait if they try to steal it at the convention.
Mark my words, a brokered convention WILL result in a Trump third-party run and the country will lose.
'Gimp
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It's very disappointing that such a good man has such a hard time resonating with people in the chase for the single most powerful political position on Earth.
I like Dr. Carson quite a lot as a human being, he was not a great candidate but would have made a good President. I did not agree with him on everything of substance (can't say I agree with any candidate on everything of substance though) but could have easily voted for him.
Hopefully he does continue to exert an influence over the direction our Nation is headed - which is much the same hope I had for Herman Cain (love Herman Cain).
Statistically speaking this won't move the needle much though for any of the remaining candidates - when Kasich drops out after Ohio it will be the same. The longer this is more than a two-person race the better chance Trump has of taking it all the way to the convention with an adequate if not commanding lead - which puts the pressure on the Establishment to let him run (and support him) or torpedo him at the convention. If they think they have their hands full with an insurrection now just wait if they try to steal it at the convention.
Mark my words, a brokered convention WILL result in a Trump third-party run and the country will lose.
'Gimp
I agree completely. Trump wouldn't hesitate to go third party, just to piss off the GOP, and knowing he has no chance in getting an electoral vote.
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I agree completely. Trump wouldn't hesitate to go third party, just to piss off the GOP, and knowing he has no chance in getting an electoral vote.
Just to clarify, I think Trump would be justified to do so if the Establishment fucks him over at the convention which I believe to be a real threat. I would not vote for him under those circumstances but I would totally understand and support him doing so.
It is possible he would decide not to go third party for the good of the country but that would depend on whether or not it was too close to call going into the convention - if he goes in with a commanding lead and gets screwed all bets are off. I don't think Perot intended to give us 8 years of Clinton, but we got that shit sandwich none the same.
That puts the onus on the Establishment to do the right thing and respect the will of the people (assuming Trump maintains a lead over everyone else).
The RNC brought this on themselves by trying to frontload the process to avoid another long and bruising primary season.
The Party does not belong to Reince fucking Priebus, or Mitch McConnell, or the Bush's - it belongs to the people.
The Party consistently denying the people their voice is why Trump is doing as well as he is in the first place. If they screw him over at the convention they are not only declaring open war on him, they are declaring war on everyone who supports him and it will mean the end of the Republican Party as we know it (and should under those circumstances if it happens IMO).
'Gimp
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This is fun to watch. The better Trump does the more unhinged the Republican establishment gets. First they pissed away over $100M with Jeb, their first chosen one. Trouble is, no one wanted another Bush in the WH. Think of that for a minute, over $100M pissed away. Now they've moved behind Marco and they've decided the thing to do is to throw the kitchen sink at Trump. Marco was sent to the Senate as a Tea Party, but it's so obvious he just wants to be one of the boys that he immediately threw in with the Gang of Eight and ended up getting cut off at the knees. Now that is haunting him and instead of just owning up to it and saying he lost his way, he tried to spin it all over to Cruz. Apparently he has trouble taking responsibility for his mistakes and just wants to be part of the in crowd.
Kasich is the Governor of Ohio and his Dad was a mailman. Cruz has at least stood up for what he believes in and has been smacked down several times along the way, but gets up and keeps trying. If he is elected, who is going to want to work with him versus stabbing him on the back every chance they get? My current problem with Cruz was the Iowa mailing and the phone calls to tell Carson supporters their man had pulled out. The timeline shows they could have pulled that one back, but instead chose to go forward with and gives that apology after they'd stolen Dr. Carson votes. While there is no proof, they'd could have influenced enough votes to have won instead of finishing second to Trump.
The media dn all the experts are missing the point that America is beyond pissed off. They watched Obama stuff the ACA down everyone's throats. They then went out and began voting in Republicans that said they would appeal it. Well, that never happened so they voted in more Republicans and took the Senate. Guess what, still nothing. In fact they recently gave Obama everything he wanted and an open ended checkbook. Is it any wonder folks are voting for Trump?
Now we're going to be lectured by fucking Romney who just totally blew it in 2012. Give me a freaking break and go home Mitt.
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Funny how things change, right?
And then today we have this: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/999a7f499006448a9068f19130050428/gop-sees-options-stopping-trump-not-good-ones