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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Jim Logajan on April 05, 2020, 08:28:54 PM
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A place to discuss or suggest movies.
My motivation for the thread is to have a place to highlight older more obscure films that people may wish to bring other people’s attention. Of course without moderation (three cheers for that!) no one needs to follow that motivation and can discuss newer films or even TV shows or post whatever.
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So Youtube suggested the following snippet to me last night. Watched it and definitely saw enough to want to see the whole film for context. I had never heard of the film “Bad Day at Black Rock” before - anyone here already seen it? Curious what you thought because I bought it on iTunes (it’s also available on Amazon Prime). Worth a look - the fight scene is not really representative of the movie, though. The tension is, though. Could be classified as film noir. Great cinematography. Fine acting.
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I've seen the film a few times. It runs a lot on one of my movie channels over the HD antenna. Interesting that Ernie Borgnine who played heavies most of the time early in his career was also filming "Marty" at the time in which he played a sensitive bachelor, trying to meet a woman to marry and won an Oscar for it. He's a bad dude in "Bad day at Black Rock". Great cast also including one of my faves, Robert Ryan and of course Spencer Tracy, Lee Marvin, Walter Brennan and a very young, but hot, Anne Francis.
Interesting, post War topic of Japanese prejudice.
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I'm a fan of the old westerns from the 30's through the 70's. I've discovered youtube has a huge collection of these movies full length.
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That movie came out when I was three years old, but I must have watched it a dozen times. But not for at least 50 years. I'll have to pull it up soon.
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I've been watching a lot of "Film Noir" as they run on the movies channel I get, and a lot of other older films. I haven't been in a movie theater in over a decade, and watch VERY FEW newer movies. Yes, I am sure there are some more recently made "good" movies. They seem to be few and far between, and the subject matter, leftist bias pushing an agenda really turns me off.
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I've been watching a lot of "Film Noir" as they run on the movies channel I get, and a lot of other older films. I haven't been in a movie theater in over a decade, and watch VERY FEW newer movies. Yes, I am sure there are some more recently made "good" movies. They seem to be few and far between, and the subject matter, leftist bias pushing an agenda really turns me off.
fwiw "The Martian" is a very good movie. No politics... except maybe the scientists from China and NASA ignoring politics to work together.
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I want to watch the 1939 version of Wuthering Heights but can’t find it on Netflix or Amazon Prime. My husband says it’s obviously a “chick flick”, that is, after I told him the basic plot, because of course he never read the novel.
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I want to watch the 1939 version of Wuthering Heights but can’t find it on Netflix or Amazon Prime. My husband says it’s obviously a “chick flick”, that is, after I told him the basic plot, because of course he never read the novel.
https://www.amazon.com/Wuthering-Heights-Merle-Oberon/dp/B00ALPGD1Y
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They're old, but authentic.
The Silent Service TV series.
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I'm a child of the 60's and 70's and grew up on WWII movies, and TV series based on WWII. The newer movies about WWII today always have to have a love story and/or "strong" female characters, and minorities in unrealistic roles.
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They're old, but authentic.
The Silent Service TV series.
Good show.
Flynn, was that you that kicked the bucket at about 7 minutes in?
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https://www.amazon.com/Wuthering-Heights-Merle-Oberon/dp/B00ALPGD1Y
Yeah but I have to pay for it. I guess I can squeeze $3.99 out of my pathetic “wealth” right now.
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One of my all-time favorite movies is "Quest for Fire". It's about cavemen who know how to build a fire but not how to make one from scratch. They keep some embers alive to start the daily fire, but lose them (no spoilers here) and have to go out into the world and find some new fire.
Plenty of dialog, none of it in any known language, and no subtitles.
Tim
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Yeah but I have to pay for it. I guess I can squeeze $3.99 out of my pathetic “wealth” right now.
A very brooding Heathcliff as done by the famous Laurence Olivier.
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One of my all-time favorite movies is "Quest for Fire". It's about cavemen who know how to build a fire but not how to make one from scratch. They keep some embers alive to start the daily fire, but lose them (no spoilers here) and have to go out into the world and find some new fire.
Plenty of dialog, none of it in any known language, and no subtitles.
Tim
I watched that again recently, it was on one of the streaming services. Might have been Starz which I had for a while. One of my very favorite movies, the part where he gets emotional when... whoops, that would be a spoiler... but it’s an amazing scene and fabulous acting by Ron Perlman.
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They're old, but authentic.
The Silent Service TV series.
I’ve been slowly plowing through the series for the last few months. Only watch them when exercising on an elliptical (motivation to exercise,) but sadly haven’t been doing that consistently.
Was amused and pleased to see one episode with Deforest Kelley playing a sub captain. “Dammit Jim, I’m a sub commander, not a doctor!”
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I’ve been slowly plowing through the series for the last few months. Only watch them when exercising on an elliptical (motivation to exercise,) but sadly haven’t been doing that consistently.
Was amused and pleased to see one episode with Deforest Kelley playing a sub captain. “Dammit Jim, I’m a sub commander, not a doctor!”
William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy were in a Twilight Zone episode prior to Star Trek. Shatner was also in a couple of now famous Twilight Zones. I am always amazed seeing big stars as either bit players or in other productions in which they became famous.
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William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy were in a Twilight Zone episode prior to Star Trek. Shatner was also in a couple of now famous Twilight Zones also. I am always amazed seeing big stars as either bit players or in other productions in which they became famous.
A few years ago I bought a DVD set of the entire Perry Mason series. Part of the enjoyment was seeing actors before-they-were-stars.
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I watched "Cool Hand Luke" for the first time in many years the other day. The cast is amazing. Of course Paul Newman and George Kennedy, but also Dennis Hopper, Wayne Rogers (MASH) in an early role, Strother Martin, Harry Dean Stanton, Ralph Waite (the Waltons), Anthony Zerbe, Joe Don Baker, Rance Howard (Ron Howard's Dad). Just unreal.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061512/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
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They're old, but authentic.
The Silent Service TV series.
“Up Periscope” was on the other day. I also like “Run Silent Run Deep”.
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I'm a child of the 60's and 70's and grew up on WWII movies, and TV series based on WWII. The newer movies about WWII today always have to have a love story and/or "strong" female characters, and minorities in unrealistic roles.
Agreed, and I was too. I watched 12 O’clock High with my dad every week.
One movie was on last week that you don’t often see: “D-Day, the Sixth of June.”
Unlike “The Longest Day,” this one was about 80% love story. It had been a long time - decades - since I’ve seen it but I was disappointed.
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Agreed, and I was too. I watched 12 O’clock High with my dad every week.
I did too. Probably had the most to do with me wanting to fly. Then there was Combat, Hogan's Heroes, The Rat Patrol, and a plethora of other WWII shows and movies.
One movie was on last week that you don’t often see: “D-Day, the Sixth of June.”
Unlike “The Longest Day,” this one was about 80% love story. It had been a long time - decades - since I’ve seen it but I was disappointed.
I'm not sure if I have every seen that one.
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I watched 12 O’clock High with my dad every week.
Now that you mention it, the "12 O'Clock High" movie with Gregory Peck was also very good. Unexpected ending.
Tim
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Now that you mention it, the "12 O'Clock High" movie with Gregory Peck was also very good. Unexpected ending.
Tim
Superb film. Used for many years by the Air Force Academy and West Point to show leadership skills. The TV series is loosely based on the film. Some same character names, etc., but the story lines are completely different. Still good though.
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I did too. Probably had the most to do with me wanting to fly. Then there was Combat, Hogan's Heroes, The Rat Patrol, and a plethora of other WWII shows and movies.
I'm not sure if I have every seen that one.
Always watched Combat with Vic Morrow. I wanted a Thompson after that.
And I had a Rat Patrol lunch box. My wife found it in my moms basement. Still have it. Lol.
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Always watched Combat with Vic Morrow. I wanted a Thompson after that.
And I had a Rat Patrol lunch box. My wife found it in my moms basement. Still have it. Lol.
A friend of mine had the lunch box and the board game. I was very jealous! I had a Mattel Thompson that fired caps. That was cool.
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Somebody uploaded “The Enemy Below” to Youtube on April 15th. As of the 21st it has over half a million views. I’ve seen it before, but watched again. Great flick - no surprise it is so popular. It was based on a novel and in turn the Star Trek episode “Balance of Terror” was based on it. It has been claimed that the novel in turn was based on a real encounter between the destroyer USS Borie and U-boat U-405.
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Somebody uploaded “The Enemy Below” to Youtube on April 15th. As of the 21st it has over half a million views. I’ve seen it before, but watched again. Great flick - no surprise it is so popular. It was based on a novel and in turn the Star Trek episode “Balance of Terror” was based on it. It has been claimed that the novel in turn was based on a real encounter between the destroyer USS Borie and U-boat U-405.
Curd Jurgens, Robert Mitchum and David Hedison of "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea" fame. It's a solid sub movie.
Other favorites of mine are "Das Boot", "Run Silent Run Deep", "Operation Pacific", "Operation Petticoat", "The Bedford Incident", "Torpedo Run", and "Destination Tokyo".
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Other favorites of mine are "Das Boot"...
I have some difficulty believing that the German U-boat officers were so panicky.
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I have some difficulty believing that the German U-boat officers were so panicky.
I didn't think they were too panicky. How so? I've got the entire six hour series on DVD (it was TV mini series in Germany first before they chopped it up and released it as a film). Interestingly, due to German law, you never actually see the Swastika on the flag when they are flying it leaving and going into port. They conveniently hide it due to the way the flag is hanging.
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I have some difficulty believing that the German U-boat officers were so panicky.
Interesting observation. Dramatic effect for the movie?
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Interesting observation. Dramatic effect for the movie?
I saw the film "Das Boot" when it first came out in theaters. 1981 I think. As it was a foreign film, they were only showing it in "selected" theaters. I had to go into Center City Philly in a predominantly Jewish area to see the movie. It was pretty clear that many Jews were in the audience to see the "Nazi" film. When the crew actually is able to raise the boat and survive, after their long ordeal at the bottom. EVERYONE in the audience cheered for them including the Jews! First time I ever saw Jews cheer for Nazis, although the crew was not happy with Hitler or the politics at the time due to some statements and hints they threw into the film.
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I didn't think they were too panicky. How so? I've got the entire six hour series on DVD (it was TV mini series in Germany first before they chopped it up and released it as a film). Interestingly, due to German law, you never actually see the Swastika on the flag when they are flying it leaving and going into port. They conveniently hide it due to the way the flag is hanging.
I have the Director's cut of the movie.
The officers were constantly whining about how they were going to die and how their leadership (the remfs back on land) were screwing them.
Part of it could simply have been literary license to get across the drama/danger.
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I have the Director's cut of the movie.
The officers were constantly whining about how they were going to die and how their leadership (the remfs back on land) were screwing them.
Part of it could simply have been literary license to get across the drama/danger.
I took it a bit differently. The "Happy Time" (June 1940 - February 1941) was over, and the technology was catching up (Radar, Sonar, aircraft, etc) and sinkings were now at very high numbers. So the officers knew they odds were increasingly against them and they were in a hopeless, no win situation. Hence the comments about Goering and the other leadership in Berlin.
]'The Happy Time' (June 1940 – February 1941)
See also: First Happy Time
A U-boat shells a merchant ship which has remained afloat after being torpedoed.
The early U-boat operations from the French bases were spectacularly successful. This was the heyday of the great U-boat aces like Günther Prien of U-47, Otto Kretschmer (U-99), Joachim Schepke (U-100), Engelbert Endrass (U-46), Victor Oehrn (U-37) and Heinrich Bleichrodt (U-48). U-boat crews became heroes in Germany. From June until October 1940, over 270 Allied ships were sunk: this period was referred to by U-boat crews as "the Happy Time" ("Die Glückliche Zeit").[28] Churchill would later write: "...the only thing that ever frightened me during the war was the U-boat peril".[29]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Atlantic#'The_Happy_Time'_(June_1940_%E2%80%93_February_1941)
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Keep in mind lots of german nationals didn't volunteer for the military during WW2. And many were conscripted knowing their chances for coming home were slim.
My BIL is a German national, and his father served under the Nazis during WW2. His father was sent to the Eastern Front where 2 out of 3 never returned home. His father was definitely not a Nazi, but he had no choice but to serve. He was one of the lucky ones.
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I took it a bit differently. The "Happy Time" (June 1940 - February 1941) was over, and the technology was catching up (Radar, Sonar, aircraft, etc) and sinkings were now at very high numbers. So the officers knew they odds were increasingly against them and they were in a hopeless, no win situation. Hence the comments about Goering and the other leadership in Berlin.
They can comment on it all they want, but not in front of the crew. Especially young, inexperienced, conscripts.
Not appropriate behavior for disciplined officers.
Edit: I'm not saying they needed to always present the superconfident facade, but for pete's sake, show leadership.
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They can comment on it all they want, but not in front of the crew. Especially young, inexperienced, conscripts.
Not appropriate behavior for disciplined officers.
Edit: I'm not saying they needed to always present the superconfident facade, but for pete's sake, show leadership.
I hear what you are saying and agree in concept, but the only time I saw/heard those comments were when the officers were sitting down eating together. Also, the producers may have thrown that in to show dissatisfaction with the Nazi regime to placate the people of the modern age and not paint the crew as Nazis also.
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Two clips of a movie I had not heard of that looks intriguing. Looks like I can buy it on DVD for ~$20 or I could watch it for free on Youtube since someone has posted the whole 83 minutes. Which should I do?
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Wow!
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Two clips of a movie I had not heard of that looks intriguing. Looks like I can buy it on DVD for ~$20 or I could watch it for free on Youtube since someone has posted the whole 83 minutes. Which should I do?
You should acquire it by whichever means best suit your ethics, and tell us all how it ends!
Tantalizing. I want to see those Jerrys blown out of the water!
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You should acquire it by whichever means best suit your ethics, and tell us all how it ends!
Tantalizing. I want to see those Jerrys blown out of the water!
I ordered the DVD, but Amazon says “delivery date pending” so I have no idea when it will arrive. So I’ll feel OK watching the copy on Youtube this evening.
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I ordered the DVD, but Amazon says “delivery date pending” so I have no idea when it will arrive. So I’ll feel OK watching the copy on Youtube this evening.
Don't hold your breathe.
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Don't hold your breathe.
I’m not.
Anyway, just finished watching the bootleg copy on Youtube. Great yarn. Thumbs up. Jeffrey Hunter, playing Captain Pike, er, I mean signalman Brown proves that besides the cooks, the other navy men you don’t mess with are signalmen. It seems they filmed two endings for the movie - my understanding is the one I watched on Youtube has the happier ending. The DVD may also include the other ending. Sounds like the other ending makes explicit what the happier ending only hints at.
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I’m not.
Anyway, just finished watching the bootleg copy on Youtube. Great yarn. Thumbs up. Jeffrey Hunter, playing Captain Pike, er, I mean signalman Brown proves that besides the cooks, the other navy men you don’t mess with are signalmen. It seems they filmed two endings for the movie - my understanding is the one I watched on Youtube has the happier ending. The DVD may also include the other ending. Sounds like the other ending makes explicit what the happier ending only hints at.
He also played Jesus in King of Kings.
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I’m not.
Anyway, just finished watching the bootleg copy on Youtube. Great yarn. Thumbs up. Jeffrey Hunter, playing Captain Pike, er, I mean signalman Brown proves that besides the cooks, the other navy men you don’t mess with are signalmen. It seems they filmed two endings for the movie - my understanding is the one I watched on Youtube has the happier ending. The DVD may also include the other ending. Sounds like the other ending makes explicit what the happier ending only hints at.
Aaargh! Tell us the ending(s) please! I became attached to that sniper and vested in his outcome, but I’m not sure I could get through 83 minutes of those thick English accents.
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Six Foot Fecal Spray terrorizes Phoenixville and Downingtown!!!
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The movie "The Blob" with then "Steven" McQueen, was filmed in my area in 1958. That's the Colonial Theater in Phoenixville above, which still stands and shows movies. They have a "Blob Fest" every July. Many of the places the film was shot in Phoenixvllie, Downingtown and Chester Springs are still there and look the same. You can do a self walking Blob Tour, but I think they also have group ones during Blob Fest.
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I was a tiny kid when I first saw The Blob! Loved it.
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I was a tiny kid when I first saw The Blob! Loved it.
https://thecolonialtheatre.com/programs-categories/blobfest/
That's the Colonial Theater in Phoenixville, PA. It still looks like that.
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Aaargh! Tell us the ending(s) please! I became attached to that sniper and vested in his outcome, but I’m not sure I could get through 83 minutes of those thick English accents.
You have to see the beginning of the film to have the context to understand the ending. Fortunately the entry for the film on Wikipedia covers the entire plot and ending(s):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailor_of_the_King (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailor_of_the_King)
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Speaking of fecal spray, have you ever gone into a bathroom after someone pooped and smelled it? Or even smelled your own? Well, what you smell are actually tiny bits of fecal matter floating through the air into your nose. Yeah, that's someones shit in your nose.
Even worse are those forced air "sanitary" hand dryers in public restrooms. As it turns out, they are blowing that shit laden air into your hands, under pressure.
So I wouldn't worry so much about fecal spray.
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Speaking of fecal spray, have you ever gone into a bathroom after someone pooped and smelled it? Or even smelled your own? Well, what you smell are actually tiny bits of fecal matter floating through the air into your nose. Yeah, that's someones shit in your nose.
Even worse are those forced air "sanitary" hand dryers in public restrooms. As it turns out, they are blowing that shit laden air into your hands, under pressure.
So I wouldn't worry so much about fecal spray.
ok then. I feel sooooo much better.
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Beware of the Blob.........
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Speaking of fecal spray, have you ever gone into a bathroom after someone pooped and smelled it? Or even smelled your own? Well, what you smell are actually tiny bits of fecal matter floating through the air into your nose. Yeah, that's someones shit in your nose.
Even worse are those forced air "sanitary" hand dryers in public restrooms. As it turns out, they are blowing that shit laden air into your hands, under pressure.
So I wouldn't worry so much about fecal spray.
No s***?
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Speaking of fecal spray, have you ever gone into a bathroom after someone pooped and smelled it? Or even smelled your own? Well, what you smell are actually tiny bits of fecal matter floating through the air into your nose. Yeah, that's someones shit in your nose.
Even worse are those forced air "sanitary" hand dryers in public restrooms. As it turns out, they are blowing that shit laden air into your hands, under pressure.
So I wouldn't worry so much about fecal spray.
I will be wearing a Hazmat suit everywhere from now on. I hope you feel better now. >:(
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I will be wearing a Hazmat suit everywhere from now on. I hope you feel better now. >:(
good - you won't be spreading pathogens to everyone else.
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ok then. I feel sooooo much better.
How effective are multiple layers of cloth as a filter? If you can smell a fart through underwear and pants then something is still getting through. Can a butt-fitting M95 mask filter out farts? If farts can go out, then other stuff can get in.
Too little sleep last night.........
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Speaking of fecal spray, have you ever gone into a bathroom after someone pooped and smelled it? Or even smelled your own? Well, what you smell are actually tiny bits of fecal matter floating through the air into your nose. Yeah, that's someones shit in your nose.
Even worse are those forced air "sanitary" hand dryers in public restrooms. As it turns out, they are blowing that shit laden air into your hands, under pressure.
So I wouldn't worry so much about fecal spray.
I am too well aware of that when I walk into a poop smelling bathroom. I then must battle my natural need for oxygen as I desperately attempt to not inhale anything until I can get out of there. No, covering your nose and mouth with something never filters out the smell (poop molecules).
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Ewwww. Just ewwwww........
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iirc, it's not the poop itself that is odoriferous, but some of the bacteria and gases.
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iirc, it's not the poop itself that is odoriferous, but some of the bacteria and gases.
True but the gases touched the poop so, still cooties.
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True but the gases touched the poop so, still cooties.
I learn so much from Pilot Spin.
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