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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Bob Noel on May 01, 2020, 10:34:09 AM

Title: When will something like this make the news?
Post by: Bob Noel on May 01, 2020, 10:34:09 AM
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ shows some metrics like the attached.

Notice that of the active cases worldwide, 2% are in serious or critical condition.  Several weeks ago, that percentage was 5%, then 4%, recently 3%, and now has fallen to 2%.

And wrt the closed cases, the percentage of deaths has also fallen.

Could any of that be considered good news?

Title: Re: When will something like this make the news?
Post by: Username on May 01, 2020, 10:51:53 AM
Could any of that be considered good news?
Not to our Reptilian Overlords.
Title: Re: When will something like this make the news?
Post by: bflynn on May 03, 2020, 03:52:39 AM
2% of cases are serious?

Huh, that would mean there are 7 million people who will get seriously ill from the virus, most of them over the age of 50.  But they won't all get sick at the same time.

Maybe we can start going back to work?
Title: Re: When will something like this make the news?
Post by: Little Joe on May 03, 2020, 05:22:27 AM
2% of cases are serious?

Huh, that would mean there are 7 million people who will get seriously ill from the virus, most of them over the age of 50.  But they won't all get sick at the same time.

Maybe we can start going back to work?
That arithmetic only works if you assume every man, woman and child in the US gets the disease.
Title: Re: When will something like this make the news?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 03, 2020, 07:06:37 AM
That arithmetic only works if you assume every man, woman and child in the US gets the disease.
They likely will at some point. This thing doesn't mysteriously go away.
Title: Re: When will something like this make the news?
Post by: Rush on May 03, 2020, 07:37:19 AM
They likely will at some point. This thing doesn't mysteriously go away.

Unless it acts like some viruses and goes away with the hot weather.
Title: Re: When will something like this make the news?
Post by: Bob Noel on May 03, 2020, 08:29:48 AM
Unless it acts like some viruses and goes away with the hot weather.

and comes back.


yet we managed to survive the Hong Kong flu... granted a lot of people did die from that pandemic.


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1968-pandemic.html

1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus)

The 1968 pandemic was caused by an influenza A (H3N2) virus comprised of two genes from an avian influenza A virus, including a new H3 hemagglutinin, but also contained the N2 neuraminidase from the 1957 H2N2 virus. It was first noted in the United States in September 1968. The estimated number of deaths was 1 million worldwide and about 100,000 in the United States. Most excess deaths were in people 65 years and older. The H3N2 virus continues to circulate worldwide as a seasonal influenza A virus. [emphasis mine] Seasonal H3N2 viruses, which are associated with severe illness in older people, undergo regular antigenic drift.
Title: Re: When will something like this make the news?
Post by: Rush on May 03, 2020, 10:03:43 AM
and comes back.


yet we managed to survive the Hong Kong flu... granted a lot of people did die from that pandemic.


https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1968-pandemic.html

1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus)

The 1968 pandemic was caused by an influenza A (H3N2) virus comprised of two genes from an avian influenza A virus, including a new H3 hemagglutinin, but also contained the N2 neuraminidase from the 1957 H2N2 virus. It was first noted in the United States in September 1968. The estimated number of deaths was 1 million worldwide and about 100,000 in the United States. Most excess deaths were in people 65 years and older. The H3N2 virus continues to circulate worldwide as a seasonal influenza A virus. [emphasis mine] Seasonal H3N2 viruses, which are associated with severe illness in older people, undergo regular antigenic drift.

Pretty sure that’s the one I got two years ago!  Dang!  Took that long to make it to me?

I guess if we are treating viruses differently now, by shutting down the economy until they are all gone, we will need to stay shut down for at least 50 years for covid19.
Title: Re: When will something like this make the news?
Post by: nddons on May 07, 2020, 09:16:25 AM
They likely will at some point. This thing doesn't mysteriously go away.
How do we know? 
Title: Re: When will something like this make the news?
Post by: Bob Noel on May 07, 2020, 09:27:16 AM
How do we know?

well, how many viruses have been completely eradicated?  Or, putting it another way, other than smallpox, is there any other deadly virus that has been completely eliminated?
Title: Re: When will something like this make the news?
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 07, 2020, 09:39:11 AM
They can't even make an effective flu vaccine. They have to guess at the active strains.
Title: Re: When will something like this make the news?
Post by: Anthony on May 07, 2020, 09:52:36 AM