PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: bflynn on October 08, 2020, 04:26:19 AM
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"The work that I did (in California) is a model of what our nation needs to do"
So, out of control wildfires across the entire US, people pooping in the streets, rolling brownouts, high taxes, crushing debt, failing infrastructure and onerous regulations infringing basic human rights?
Make no mistake, this is what I expect will happen under a Harris presidency.
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I haven’t researched it myself but somebody on another forum said she prosecuted and jailed parents for not sending their kids to school and prosecuted people for marijuana possession. These people sounded like liberals but strongly dislike her for these and other reasons. They called her corrupt.
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"The work that I did (in California) is a model of what our nation needs to do"
So, out of control wildfires across the entire US, people pooping in the streets, rolling brownouts, high taxes, crushing debt, failing infrastructure and onerous regulations infringing basic human rights?
Make no mistake, this is what I expect will happen under a Harris presidency.
don't forget the "science" of eliminating gas-powered vehicles
don't forget the "science" behind wood dust causing cancer
don't forget the "science" that brought the state (and a number of other states) MTBE - which was even more hazardous than the lead it was intended to replace.
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I haven’t researched it myself but somebody on another forum said she prosecuted and jailed parents for not sending their kids to school and prosecuted people for marijuana possession. These people sounded like liberals but strongly dislike her for these and other reasons. They called her corrupt.
Her record as a DA, then later as an AG are dismal at best. She favored forcing petty criminals into plea deals rather than going after high profile crime.
She also disproportionately jailed blacks over whites.
Everyone that watched last nigh saw first hand why she bombed so bad running for president. Kamala is a product of California, a single party state with a huge single party political machine. There, she didn't have to be likeable, or even competent, just had to have the right political connections.
On a national stage she is a disaster. Oh, and her senate record? The MOST liberal senator, even exceeding Bernie Sanders.
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https://twitter.com/morganisawizard/status/1156752830331592705
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I'm not sure if it is a good thing or a bad thing that Tulsi didn't get the nomination. She would have been hard to beat.
And she's hot.
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Her record as a DA, then later as an AG are dismal at best. She favored forcing petty criminals into plea deals rather than going after high profile crime.
She also disproportionately jailed blacks over whites.
Everyone that watched last nigh saw first hand why she bombed so bad running for president. Kamala is a product of California, a single party state with a huge single party political machine. There, she didn't have to be likeable, or even competent, just had to have the right political connections.
On a national stage she is a disaster. Oh, and her senate record? The MOST liberal senator, even exceeding Bernie Sanders.
I missed the debate. Watching MASH reruns with mom. :(
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I missed the debate. Watching MASH reruns with mom. :(
She bombed, horribly. Very unlikable persona, very uncomfortable. Pence was smooth and calm, and extremely prepared. The anger in her expressions and the cracking voice signaled her anger.
Thus, this morning the debate commission has now changed, without consulting the Trump Team, the next debate to a "virtual debate".
Trump says no way.
A virtual debate will allow Biden to have a teleprompter and extensive off screen coaching.
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https://amgreatness.com/2020/10/07/pence-regains-the-initiative-but-trump-must-finish-the-job/
The vice presidential debate was a refreshing upgrade on the cacophonous fiasco last week between the presidential nominees.
The incumbent, Mike Pence, was an easy winner on substantive points and general demeanor. The only question he did not really answer was how the administration is going to protect people with pre-existing medical problems if it succeeds in a judicial rejection of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare). He effectively replied to the customary Democratic falsehoods about the failures of this administration’s management of COVID-19. More importantly, as the evening wore on, the Democratic vice presidential nominee, Senator Kamala Harris, was more and more frequently reduced to the default page of the Democratic campaign: defamatory mudslinging against the president.
Senator Harris accused Trump of “the greatest presidential failure in history,” and said she would not take a vaccine on Trump’s recommendation. She repeated the lies that he only paid $750 in income taxes in 2017, that the current recession is as serious as the Great Depression, that he is a security risk because he owes $400 million, “that he doesn’t believe in science,” considers American war dead to be “suckers and losers,” that he never raised with Russian president Putin the matter of Russian bounties on American soldiers, that he described Mexicans in general as “rapists and criminals,” that he declared his support for Nazis at Charlottesville in 2017, that he has never condemned white supremacy, and that in questioning the security of mass mailed-out balloting, he is trying to prevent the nation from voting and suppressing democracy.
In fact, during the Great Depression, the unemployment rate reached 30 percent and there was no direct relief for the jobless. The indebtedness on some of Trump’s properties is covered by approximately $5 billion of assets and if any of his loans were called, every bank in the world would be happy to refinance them (on their merits, not because of his position).
The falsehood about denigrating American war dead has been revealed as a smear job by The Atlantic (which currently publishes little else).
There is not one scrap of evidence in his entire conscient life to support the argument that Donald Trump is a racist.
There is not much that can be done about the Trump-hating media giving credence to these scurrilous allegations, but when the Democratic vice presidential nominee is reduced to mouthing them as non-responses to the questions put to her, it amounts, at last, to a confession of substantive bankruptcy in the Biden campaign.
Pence referred with suitable disdain and outrage to the fraudulent Trump-Russia canard, but left Biden’s family’s questionable financial derring-do alone. He worked in the rioting and vandalism of the summer “peaceful protesters” but didn’t link the urban guerrillas to the Democrats.
Pence finally effectively rebutted the second leg of the Democratic campaign—that the administration has botched the pandemic. Unfortunately, he did not mention the antiquarian public health crisis response system bequeathed to this administration by Obama and Biden, but he did emphasize the lives saved by shutting down direct flights from China at the end of January, over noisy Democratic protestations, and the administration’s success in mass-producing medical supplies and accelerating the pursuit of a vaccine.
He did not take the president’s new post-hospitalization war cry calling for the United States to emancipate itself from the regime of panic and fretfulness that has been inflicted on it by the Democrats and their media, but he did point out that the so-called Biden plan is outright plagiarism from the administration (“an activity with which Joe Biden is familiar.”)
Pence scored well when Harris echoed her leader and professed not to support the Green New Deal by reminding her that she had been its co-sponsor in the Senate, and he put her claim that Trump had endangered world peace when he “walked away from the Iran” nuclear deal to the shredder by reminding her of the $150 billion that Obama had given the ayatollahs as part of an arrangement that would enable Iran to deploy nuclear weapons four years from now.
Pence had a steady fire of damaging lines: Biden had been “cheerleading for Communist China for 30 years,” and opposed the killing of Osama bin Laden. He reminded us that both Democratic nominees upheld the charge that the United States is “systemically racist,” and he accused Harris of having done absolutely nothing for African-Americans or race relations in general and of having over-prosecuted African-Americans when she was a district attorney and attorney general in California. He caught her wobbling on the issue of abolishing fracking, debunked the gap between Biden’s promise to repeal Trump’s tax cuts and their more recent promise not to raise taxes on anyone earning less than $400,000 a year. Probably most tellingly of all, Pence caught Harris flat-footed when she repeatedly declined to indicate whether a Biden Administration would attempt to pack the Supreme Court if the current nominee to fill the vacancy on the court, Judge Amy Coney Barrett, is confirmed.
The Democrats and their talking media robots have been strutting across our television screens all week like roosters pretending the campaign is over and the confirmation of their victory is a mere formality. It is likely that Mike Pence has succeeded in arresting the apparent erosion of the Republican campaign.
But it now remains to the president to transform his new theme of the country ceasing to be “dominated” by COVID-19, and recognizing that it is only a mortal threat to less than 1 percent of Americans and that 99 percent of those who contract it survive and are at least partially immunized thereafter. The average age of a person who dies with the coronavirus—and almost always has other ailments as well—is 78, which is the average life expectancy of the entire population. The Democrats recognize that Trump, after successfully shaking off the virus, is now finally attacking the Democratic campaign of panic and hysteria and is offering in its place a defiant battle cry of resistance, even drawing, a bit implausibly, on the inspirational rhetoric of Winston Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt.
The Democrats are naturally mocking Trump and their media jackals are comparing him to Mussolini (because he stood briefly on the White House balcony, as has every president since John Adams) and the last days of the Romanoffs, but the president is correct. He has come late to this argument and wore his caution uneasily, but his bout with the illness has emboldened him to denounce the Democratic attempt to portray the coronavirus as a mortal threat to every person in the country or a reenacted medieval bubonic plague as the fear-mongering it is.
This will work, because it is true, but only if the president presses it hard and believably. His vice president has done all he could to regain the initiative for the administration. It is up to Trump to raise his game, hammer home his argument, and sweep Biden aside in the last two debates. Another shouting and slanging match like his first debate could produce the unimaginable calamity of a Biden presidency.
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https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/08/7-quick-takeaways-on-the-2020-vice-presidential-debate/
The vice presidential debate between Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., and Vice President Mike Pence was more traditional and less raucous than last week’s debate between President Donald Trump and former Vice President Joe Biden. That debate was a three-way interruption fest marked by Biden losing track of his thoughts and Trump clumsily returning to slights that had occurred 25 minutes earlier.
This debate was less exciting, a reminder of what politics was like before Trump came onto the scene. Still, it had its moments that bolstered each campaign’s strongest arguments. For Pence, that meant a frequent recursion to first principles and first-term successes. For Harris, that meant a focus on coronavirus and negative descriptions of the Republican Party and its president.
Here are a few quick takeaways on how it went down.
1. Pence’s Superpower Is Debating
Mike Pence, a former congressman and talk radio host, started off strong and just kept getting stronger. He clearly came prepared for the debate. He had a ready recall of facts and figures to bolster his points. He nailed the questions he wanted to answer and deflected on the questions he preferred not to answer.
While he let several zingers fly, he stayed calm and steady, pushing back at what he perceived as unduly false statements but without the constant interruptions of the Trump-Biden debate. He spoke slowly and left few cards on the table unplayed. He was nice, firm, decent, and likable.
Pence’s weakest points were when he was on defense about the global pandemic gripping the country. However, he came into the debate prepared to lay out how a Trump-Pence vision for America is better than the one put forth by Biden and Harris and he accomplished that consistently throughout the debate.
He made a strong case for Trump’s foreign policy being effective and Biden’s being decades of failure. He had Kamala Harris on the ropes about whether she and Biden would raise taxes on Americans on their first day in office. He effectively showed the country her refusal to openly support court-packing, a position she previously supported.
2. Harris’s Superpower Is Something Other Than Debating
The conventional wisdom heading into the debate was that Harris, a former prosecutor, would obliterate the nice and meek Pence. It was never clear why that conventional wisdom formed, considering she performed poorly in the Democratic primary debates. She left that contest before the Iowa caucuses and her only clear win was when she accused her now running mate Joe Biden of being a virulent racist. Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii put the California senator on the ropes for her criminal justice record.
Having said that, Harris had a very strong start to the VP debate, with a rehearsed but very effective answer about the Trump administration’s failures to handle the coronavirus epidemic the way she and Biden would. Pressed for details on what she’d do differently, she began to struggle and never quite regained a strong footing.
Both candidates declined to answer questions, usually effectively. But her refusal to answer repeated questions about whether she and her running mate plan to pack the Supreme Court in retaliation for Republicans appointing a new justice in a constitutional manner was uncomfortable.
She also lied frequently, and perhaps in ways that were too easily caught. She lied about Abraham Lincoln, she repeated the completely false Charlottesville hoax, and she falsely claimed Trump called COVID a hoax. She tried to defend Biden on fracking but did so in a way that reminded voters of how he’s been all over the map on whether he zealously seeks to ban fracking or definitely does not want to.
She feigned outrage when Pence said he hoped Democrats wouldn’t engage in religious attacks on Amy Coney Barrett, as they have already done. But Harris herself tried to impose a religious test on a nominee for being a member of the Knights of Columbus, a Catholic lay group.
3. Yes, VP Debates Matter
As soon as the debate was over and everyone knew that Pence did well, all the pundits said it didn’t matter because vice-presidential debates “don’t matter.” While it’s true that the vice presidential slot isn’t the most important thing on people’s minds in a presidential election, these debates frequently matter.
One of the undervalued contributors to Trump’s stunning 2016 victory was the masterful performance Pence had in his debate against Hillary Clinton running mate Tim Kaine, who was admittedly a bit of a disaster. In that debate, which was focused on, what else, the bad orange man, Pence explained why Republican voters supported him, forcing a debate on policy and away from the personality questions that so riled journalists.
I saw someone on Twitter describe Pence as the yin to Trump’s yang and there is a truth in that. Many pundits have never understood how the traditional Republican voter could ever vote for Trump, much less be so unfailingly loyal to him. Pence is the embodiment of the answer to that question. He articulates a Trump-supporting traditional Republicanism that many voters hold. And it’s a compelling and persuasive answer for millions of people purposely ignored by media coverage and its discussions of the 2020 election.
4. Debate Or Parallel Interviews
Nancy Pelosi biographer Susan Page moderated the debate. Liberal commentators accused Pence of speaking too long and Page certainly kept cutting him off, but Rick Klein of ABC News said that Pence spoke for 35:22 relative to Harris’ time of 38:48. CNN claimed the two spoke about the same amount of time.
Billed as a debate, the evening was more a parallel interview of each candidate. Americans might be better served by witnessing an actual debate between candidates.
That is particularly true in an environment where the media are functionally running the Biden campaign and refusing to ask questions that the Trump campaign would like to see asked. Harris was asked about whether she and Biden plan to pack the court, but only because Pence pressed her on the issue.
It was Pence who brought up Biden’s involvement in the false and damaging Russia collusion hoax that the country was put through over the last several years. Pence raised the issue of impeachment — one of the only legislative accomplishments of the Democratic Party this Congress, albeit one that clearly backfired.
Nevertheless, the range of topics was fairly good.
5. Biased Questions
One of the problems with the media being so uniformly in support of the Democratic Party and its goals is that nearly all the questions posed in debates are loaded with false assumptions. The first question to Pence, for instance, was that the U.S. death toll was worse than “almost” any other “wealthy” country on earth. The U.S. case fatality rate of 2.8 percent is below Italy, United Kingdom, Belgium, Sweden, Canada, France, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, and Germany, something that the media rarely mention.
When Page asked Harris about whether she’d take a vaccine, she neglected to mention that Harris had made anti-vaccination remarks weeks ago.
Page couched a discussion of the economy in a claim that the economy is not recovering. “Vice President Pence, your administration has been predicting a rapid and robust recovery, but the latest economic report suggests that’s not happening.” In fact, the latest estimate from the Atlanta Federal Reserve is that third-quarter GDP growth will be more than 35 percent, the largest in history.
“Do you believe that climate change poses an existential threat?” was the general tenor of the questions. She highlighted that “President Trump” blames China for the coronavirus, as if it’s in dispute that the coronavirus came from and was mishandled by China. Instead of asking Harris for her support of abortion through all nine months of pregnancy, and for suing nuns to force them to pay for abortions, Page went with a far friendlier “Would you want your home state to enact no restrictions on access to abortion?”
Page didn’t ask Harris about supporting a bail-out fund for rioters.
Most egregiously, a question about the peaceful transfer of power was posed as if this was a concern for Trump, even though it is the Resistance who, by definition, have fought the 2016 election’s legitimacy for nearly four years now.
Pence was asked tough questions about things Trump has said or done. That is appropriate and good. It is also appropriate and necessary for Biden and Harris to be asked tough questions about their views. That is where the media have completely abdicated responsibility in favor of their preferred 2020 approach of campaign advocacy.
As Ari Fleischer wrote, “Page asked Qs re some of Pres. Trump’s most controversial statements. Fair enough. But she didn’t ask about Biden’s you ain’t black statement; blacks aren’t diverse; getting arrested in So. Africa; flip-flopping on fracking; packing the court or Harris comparing ICE to the KKK.”
6. Smug Alert
One of the most surprising things about last night’s debate was how Harris struggled to keep cool, particularly at the beginning. A split-screen showed both candidates for much of the debate. Even when a huge fly landed on Pence’s mane, to the distraction of many, he kept the same calm demeanor.
Harris bobbed her head, shook her head, laughed oddly, sneered, and generally exuded smug vibes. Controlling facial expressions on television is difficult, but it’s important for the medium.
The campaign appeared to try to explain her debate defeat by claiming that Pence had “mansplained” to her, a weak retort under the best of circumstances. But following a debate where everyone witnessed how condescending and smug Harris came off, particularly without merit, it was an explanation that failed to land outside of media echo chambers.
Pence is a deceptively strong debater who would have been tough to beat even on a good night, but Harris’ comparatively weaker substance combined with a frankly awful style did not help her out.
7. No Need to Blame Poor Performances On Sexism
Following the debate, many of the media hosts who serve as Biden/Harris surrogates started saying, without evidence, that Pence had “mansplained” to Harris or that women are held to different standards than men on the debate stage, or that criticism of her smugness was sexist.
In fact, it’s fine for observers to critique both male and female debaters, particularly when those debaters are running for the top offices in the land. While women are sometimes judged on a likability scale that can seem inscrutable, no one can claim that Trump is not judged for his likability. Some might even note that it’s the number one obsession for most media types.
Not everyone is a great debater. Most people aren’t, in fact. Pence is very good. Harris is a bit overbearing. Some people love it and it rubs a lot of other people the wrong way. Such is life. It’s something Trump deals with, too.
Harris could improve her performance by lowering the temperature on her condescension and developing more substance behind her brashness.
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She bombed, horribly. Very unlikable persona, very uncomfortable. Pence was smooth and calm, and extremely prepared. The anger in her expressions and the cracking voice signaled her anger.
Thus, this morning the debate commission has now changed, without consulting the Trump Team, the next debate to a "virtual debate".
Trump says no way.
A virtual debate will allow Biden to have a teleprompter and extensive off screen coaching.
Wow. So once again the body language displayed the R as a calm leader and the D as an intimidated weakling.
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CA is a hell Hole. Rolling blackouts due to the hate of fossil fuels even clean natural gas. Several other issues others have mentioned. I'll never live there again.
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The general MSM consensus is that Harris won the debate. Pence was sexist because of "mansplaining" too much.
Edit: already mentioned in Lucifer's post.
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I'm not sure if it is a good thing or a bad thing that Tulsi didn't get the nomination. She would have been hard to beat.
And she's hot.
Yes and yes.
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Watched a great documentary on Kamala on OANN Sunday evening.
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Watched a great documentary on Kamala on OANN Sunday evening.
I think I saw the same one on Pornhub.
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Read some comments that I think fit. She kept squirming and half standing ... trying to wiggle her hips, maybe? Her preferred method of persuasion. When she was about to tell a lie she took a deep breath and shoved her shoulders back. And that evil, inappropriate smile ... she smiled so much when talking about serious issues that it was quite noticeable. I’ve read that like Hillary she had Botox in her cheeks which produces the need to keep moving the mouth.
Ick.
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Watched a great documentary on Kamala on OANN Sunday evening.
Care to summarize? I found a couple of things about Kamala on OANN, but I'm not sure what you were alluding to.
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Care to summarize? I found a couple of things about Kamala on OANN, but I'm not sure what you were alluding to.
Talked about her life growing up, here time with Willie, or is that Willie's Willy. Time with another married man and Willie used his power to get her positions. I can't find a link to it on OANN, maybe Jim can, he's got good Google Foo.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=331884271356122 The only thing I could find
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and less black
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The general MSM consensus is that Harris won the debate. Pence was sexist because of "mansplaining" too much.
Edit: already mentioned in Lucifer's post.
“Mansplaining” aka facts and logic.
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The general MSM consensus is that Harris won the debate. Pence was sexist because of "mansplaining" too much.
Edit: already mentioned in Lucifer's post.
All the Democrat/Media Alliance has is false accusations of racism, sexism, homophobia etc. No substance but Marxism and oppression.
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Talked about her life growing up, here time with Willie, or is that Willie's Willy. Time with another married man and Willie used his power to get her positions. I can't find a link to it on OANN, maybe Jim can, he's got good Google Foo.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=331884271356122 The only thing I could find
Just FYI - I was not able to find anything like you said on OANN or using google or duckduckgo searches.
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The Democrats hate Fossil Fuel and the freedom it gives people. The push for EV's is to limit peoples travel. The car companies are ALL falling in line. Trillions are being spent to convert or build plants solely for EV's.
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The Democrats hate Fossil Fuel and the freedom it gives people. The push for EV's is to limit peoples travel. The car companies are ALL falling in line. Trillions are being spent to convert or build plants solely for EV's.
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You aren't required to buy an EV, they're just available and some people - me for instance - choose to have one. Certainly I'm not jumping into it for a road trip, but it doesn't limit my travel. We either take my wife's car or rent one. If push came to shove, I could drive it anywhere, it would just take about 25% longer because I'd have to stop to charge.
Why do I have one? Because I can "fill it up" overnight in my garage for about $3.50, if it were empty. Realistically, I mostly drive under 50 miles a day anyway, so my daily fuel cost is around a dollar.
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You aren't required to buy an EV, they're just available and some people - me for instance - choose to have one. Certainly I'm not jumping into it for a road trip, but it doesn't limit my travel. We either take my wife's car or rent one. If push came to shove, I could drive it anywhere, it would just take about 25% longer because I'd have to stop to charge.
Why do I have one? Because I can "fill it up" overnight in my garage for about $3.50, if it were empty. Realistically, I mostly drive under 50 miles a day anyway, so my daily fuel cost is around a dollar.
Good for you. I can see getting one as a second car EV to save money on gasoline but at $2.00/gallon the payback is longer and EV's typically cost more than comparable ICE vehicles. I think they make economic sense if your daily commute is within their range and you can fully charge overnight.
Governments are starting to mandate EV's by certain dates and also pressuring manufacturers to make EV's. So, you MAY NOT have a choice in the future. But, keep your head in the sand and don't see their end game. The only reason car companies are poring Trillions into EV's is because they are afraid and being told to do so.
I choose to not limit myself. If I go to out of the way places in my Jeep Wrangler I bring a five gallon Jerry can of gasoline in case I can't find a gas station and am low on fuel. It extends my range by 85 miles. Plenty to find fuel. Do that in an EV.
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You aren't required to buy an EV, they're just available and some people - me for instance - choose to have one. Certainly I'm not jumping into it for a road trip, but it doesn't limit my travel. We either take my wife's car or rent one. If push came to shove, I could drive it anywhere, it would just take about 25% longer because I'd have to stop to charge.
Why do I have one? Because I can "fill it up" overnight in my garage for about $3.50, if it were empty. Realistically, I mostly drive under 50 miles a day anyway, so my daily fuel cost is around a dollar.
Cheap fossil fuel makes the electricity that "fills it up"? I thought California had a plan to mandate EVs and ban gasoline vehicles by some year, 2030 IIRC?
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Cheap fossil fuel makes the electricity that "fills it up"? I thought California had a plan to mandate EVs and ban gasoline vehicles by some year, 2030 IIRC?
It is so funny that some people don’t get that.
It’s almost like the movie Baby Boom where the actress moves from Manhattan to Vermont, unprepared for the harshness of rural living. Her well runs dry, so she asks the plumber “Can’t you just fill it from the hose?”
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So Kamala totally made up the Abe Lincoln story during the debate.
Guess she figures no one would actually do any real research on her bogus story.
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So Kamala totally made up the Abe Lincoln story during the debate.
Guess she figures no one would actually do any real research on her bogus story.
She took her cue from the sleaze adam schiff.
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So Kamala totally made up the Abe Lincoln story during the debate.
Guess she figures no one would actually do any real research on her bogus story.
She was hopimg that if she did get called out, she could shout racism at those who criticized her.
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The Washington Post said Kamala's Abe Lincoln story was "Not exactly true". Wow. That's a stinging rebuke. ::)
Had Pence or Trump said the same thing their conclusion would probably have been more along the lines of "Trump/Pence lies again".
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Cheap fossil fuel makes the electricity that "fills it up"? I thought California had a plan to mandate EVs and ban gasoline vehicles by some year, 2030 IIRC?
I don’t know.
Here, my electricity comes from Sharon Harris nuclear plant and if I was otherwise that concerned, I could go solar, although the payback for that is still negative.
Fuel is far less now than when I bought it and electricity is higher.
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I don’t know.
Here, my electricity comes from Sharon Harris nuclear plant and if I was otherwise that concerned, I could go solar, although the payback for that is still negative.
Fuel is far less now than when I bought it and electricity is higher.
Yeah but . . .
North Carolina and California may as well be two different planets.
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I don’t know.
Here, my electricity comes from Sharon Harris nuclear plant and if I was otherwise that concerned, I could go solar, although the payback for that is still negative.
Fuel is far less now than when I bought it and electricity is higher.
I was an engineer at CP&L during the construction and start up of that plant and the cancellation of the other 3 units. Nuclear power is THE way to go but the government (and anti-nuke nuts) killed 3/4 of the project, and now we’re futzing around with solar and wind which will never be cost effective and feasible for our energy needs. We knew in the 80s what a screw up that was.
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I was an engineer at CP&L during the construction and start up of that plant and the cancellation of the other 3 units. Nuclear power is THE way to go but the government (and anti-nuke nuts) killed 3/4 of the project, and now we’re futzing around with solar and wind which will never be cost effective and feasible for our energy needs. We knew in the 80s what a screw up that was.
We should never let politics rule important life choices like energy.