PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on November 10, 2020, 08:01:37 AM
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I know this is comedy, but he has the process so totally wrong.
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omg - that isn't even close...
someone needs to read the US Constitution
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He got some of it right. Biden is the least popular candidate in history. If Biden wins, we will end up with Harris. And the election ain’t over yet. What else? Could we possibly end up with Biden President and Trump VP?
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He got some of it right. Biden is the least popular candidate in history. If Biden wins, we will end up with Harris. And the election ain’t over yet. What else? Could we possibly end up with Biden President and Trump VP?
You do realize that more people voted for Biden than have ever voted for any other POTUS in history?
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You do realize that more people voted for Biden than have ever voted for any other POTUS in history?
More dead people, too.
Also more people voted for Trump than any other president in history.
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More dead people, too.
Also more people voted for Trump than any other president in history.
He means more ballots. We have no idea how many actual people voted for Biden, and voted only once.
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He got some of it right. Biden is the least popular candidate in history. If Biden wins, we will end up with Harris. And the election ain’t over yet. What else? Could we possibly end up with Biden President and Trump VP?
No. Doesn’t work that way.
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He means more ballots. We have no idea how many actual people voted for Biden, and voted only once.
I stand corrected. Yes, when one person turns in 20,000 Biden ballots it's easy to set records. I find it hard to believe that something as simple and as important as voting can be so messed up. But I guess it has to be so the Democrats and other elites can get the results they want.
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You do realize that more people voted for Biden than have ever voted for any other POTUS in history?
Do you understand that your little tidbit is completely irrelevant?
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You do realize that more people voted for Biden than have ever voted for any other POTUS in history?
Yeah, the man is the Second Coming.
Did you see his "rallies" and President Trumps rallies? People would crawl over glass, naked, to see Trump in person. No one wanted to see Biden. He was invisible for much of the campaign. But he gets more votes than Obama? C'mon, man!
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No. Doesn’t work that way.
You're right, I found a flow chart. Looks like it would be Pence, not Trump, if the House picks the President and the Senate picks the VP, if I read it right. Also Pelosi is likely (hopefully) not going to be speaker of the House, and it might end up Kevin McCarthy that would be President if the aforementioned process fails.
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You're right, I found a flow chart. Looks like it would be Pence, not Trump, if the House picks the President and the Senate picks the VP, if I read it right. Also Pelosi is likely (hopefully) not going to be speaker of the House, and it might end up Kevin McCarthy that would be President if the aforementioned process fails.
It won’t get to the speaker assuming the office.
And Nancy is on her way out as Speaker, but the dims will appoint her successor.
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No. Doesn’t work that way.
It used to though. Can you imagine THAT? I would pay per view for that White House.
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So here's another video that might be mostly correct but very wrong. It says House will pick the prez if the election can't be resolved, but because each state gets one vote and Republicans have a majority it will go to Trump. But what he doesn't mention is it's not the current House, it's the new one. And that's being fought too, am I right?
Nevertheless this enlightens me a lot about why Hillary told Biden to NOT CONCEDE, and why Trump should not under any circumstances concede. Also interesting the way he says a candidate has supporters, and "those supporters are literally ready to fight..."
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So here's another video that might be mostly correct but very wrong. It says House will pick the prez if the election can't be resolved, but because each state gets one vote and Republicans have a majority it will go to Trump. But what he doesn't mention is it's not the current House, it's the new one. And that's being fought too, am I right?
"the House of Representatives shall choose immediately[emphasis mine], by ballot, the President"
I think that means the current House chooses.
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No, the current house will elect the President.
Article II, Section 1.
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don't forget the 12th amendment
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"the House of Representatives shall choose immediately[emphasis mine], by ballot, the President"
I think that means the current House chooses.
Oh no. It would be illegitimate to choose a president this close to an election.
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No, the current house will elect the President.
Article II, Section 1.
So that campfire guy is basically right?
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So that campfire guy is basically right?
Yes, he's correct.
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Somebody posted this on Facebook:
Some of this you may already know (most I knew myself) but some is new intel.
Ok in a nutshell. This is going to the Supreme Court. Where they will rule that the election is invalid due to fraud or mistakes on a country wide scale. It will go one of two ways, either they will rule that all the unconstitutional
mail in ballots will be removed and the states ordered to recount without them or they will simply rule the election is invalid due to mass voter fraud and at that point it will be sent to the congress and senate for a vote. This is where it gets good. The house/congress votes on who the President will be. It has nothing to do with what party that has power. Every State gets one vote and 30 States are held by Republicans and 19 by Democrats. They have to vote down party lines, they have no choice due to the 12th Amendment of the Constitution and the Senate votes for the Vice President where a similar even will take place. This is The law. This is why the Democrats are so mad at Nancy Pelosi. This will all happen in January. The only way President Trump won’t be President is if he concedes the election and that will never happen So stop watching the fake news and don’t let your heart be troubled and live your life knowing this will all work out. President Trump will remain President I have researched all of this and it is Fact!
Another fun fact, they call Gore the President Elect for 37 days in 2000 until the courts ruled against him and declared Bush the winner. And two people that will be part of that decision are none other that new Supreme Court Justices, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. Why do you think the Democrats tried so hard to keep them from being confirmed.
I have no idea who said it, or if they know what they're talking about. My hubby forwarded it to me without credit. It makes me feel a little better though.
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Somebody posted this on Facebook:
I have no idea who said it, or if they know what they're talking about. My hubby forwarded it to me without credit. It makes me feel a little better though.
"They have to vote down party lines,"
um. No. They can only vote for the 3 top vote getters, but there is no constitutional requirement that Congress votes down party lines.
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Somebody posted this on Facebook:
I have no idea who said it, or if they know what they're talking about. My hubby forwarded it to me without credit. It makes me feel a little better though.
Some of this you may already know (most I knew myself) but some is new intel.
Ok in a nutshell. This is going to the Supreme Court. Where they will rule that the election is invalid due to fraud or mistakes on a country wide scale.
No.
If we are speaking the PA lawsuit, then what could happen is the SC declares the State SC acted against the constitution, and that the state must follow the state law which says ballots must be received by 8pm on election night. This would require a recount, and throwing out all invalid ballots, which will give the state election to Trump.
It will go one of two ways, either they will rule that all the unconstitutional
mail in ballots will be removed and the states ordered to recount without them or they will simply rule the election is invalid due to mass voter fraud and at that point it will be sent to the congress and senate for a vote.
SC can't declare the entire election invalid. Presidential election as per the constitution is a state by state contest, not a national contest. So the red states that still know how to run an election, their elections and selection of electors stands.
This is where it gets good. The house/congress votes on who the President will be. It has nothing to do with what party that has power. Every State gets one vote and 30 States are held by Republicans and 19 by Democrats. They have to vote down party lines,
OK, let's step back a bit. According to the constitution, if neither party achieves 270 electoral votes, and that time, immediately, the election goes to congress. So, let's say that AZ, PA, MI and WI are still under litigation, or unable to certify their votes, neither side will get 270, so now the house decides the President, and the Senate decides the VP.
The deciding factor is the control of each state. Right now I believe there are 28 states controlled by Republicans and 22 by democrats, so one vote per state will elect Trump. In the senate, Pence will be easily elected.
And no, there is no requirement to vote party lines.
they have no choice due to the 12th Amendment of the Constitution and the Senate votes for the Vice President where a similar even will take place. This is The law.
The 12th Amendment:
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;-The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;-The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President-The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
This is why the Democrats are so mad at Nancy Pelosi. This will all happen in January. The only way President Trump won’t be President is if he concedes the election and that will never happen
This is why the dims are going apocalyptic over Trump not conceding. As long as he doesn't concede, and as long as the swing states in question are under litigation they cannot certify their votes. This puts the election to congress.
Again, Trump has more paths to win than Biden. For Biden to win each state in litigation must go to the SC and get a decision there in his favor. And since we have a Thomas Court now, that's not likely.
Also, if Trump gets ruled against by the SC (unlikely), he simply needs to refile another lawsuit in the state to keep it in litigation. This will keep the vote from being certified.
So stop watching the fake news and don’t let your heart be troubled and live your life knowing this will all work out. President Trump will remain President I have researched all of this and it is Fact!
Agreed.
Another fun fact, they call Gore the President Elect for 37 days in 2000 until the courts ruled against him and declared Bush the winner. And two people that will be part of that decision are none other that new Supreme Court Justices, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. Why do you think the Democrats tried so hard to keep them from being confirmed.
Roberts was also involved.
But the SC did not and never declared Bush the winner. They simply stopped the recounts, which in turn gave Bush Florida, and the majority of the electoral votes.
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Damn, thank you for all that, Luci!
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In 2014 Biden's pick for Chief of Staff wrote this:
https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/488884409806749697
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Damn, thank you for all that, Luci!
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This one he totally nails!!!
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