PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on December 09, 2020, 09:33:51 AM
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Now the overlords of YouTube are going all in on censoring content.
https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/youtube-election-content/
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Trump needs to trigger the 2018 EO. Seize Facebook and Google and their assets.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h9x6DSJwX0
Styx lists some alternate platforms.
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Styx lists some alternate platforms.
https://www.bitchute.com/
https://www.dailymotion.com/
https://rumble.com/
https://odysee.com/
The censorship is just a prelude of the final solution they have been working themselves up to for a decade.
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Yes, I remember in 2016 when YouTube censored all videos claiming Russian interference in that election.
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It occurs to me this morning - one solution to censorship is to
1) Develop evidence on the partisan nature of it
2) have a judge recognize the partisan nature as being an advantage to a campaign
3) have a legitimate monetary value assigned to each instance of the partisan censorship
4) total up the amounts as campaign contributions.
5) assign fines for excessive campaign contributions. Companies will stop doing it instantly.
It's not out of the realm of possibility. Much more likely than the Supreme Court deciding to make Trump president.
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It occurs to me this morning - one solution to censorship is to
1) Develop evidence on the partisan nature of it
2) have a judge recognize the partisan nature as being an advantage to a campaign
3) have a legitimate monetary value assigned to each instance of the partisan censorship
4) total up the amounts as campaign contributions.
5) assign fines for excessive campaign contributions. Companies will stop doing it instantly.
It's not out of the realm of possibility. Much more likely than the Supreme Court deciding to make Trump president.
The Supreme Court will not make Trump the President. The goal,is to allow the State Legislatures to determine the electors for those states.
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The Supreme Court will not make Trump the President. The goal,is to allow the State Legislatures to determine the electors for those states.
Correct. The SC will only declare the election results tainted due to the unconstitutional nature of the rule changes done by parties other than state legislatures. The legislatures will then appoint electors but they could all appoint them for Biden, who knows with these people. I’m convinced there is a whole lot of bribery, threats, and blackmail going on with these Republicans. This is why Trump used the world “courage” when he said he hopes someone - a legislator, a Justice - steps up and does the right thing. He meant it quite literally. Because even if they aren’t being threatened now, if we lose this whole thing, there will no doubt be retribution. Charges of treason, because both sides now see themselves as the only legitimate government.
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The Supreme Court will not make Trump the President. The goal,is to allow the State Legislatures to determine the electors for those states.
The Supreme Court will not "allow" them to do that, they already have that authority to determine the method of choosing electors, by passing laws. All they have to do is pass a law that gives the legislature the authority to directly choose electors. The remedy already exists, the Supreme Court will not invent a new law.
But do you really want that? Every election would become meaningless because the loser would always claim fraud and it would go to the legislature.
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The Supreme Court will not "allow" them to do that, they already have that authority to determine the method of choosing electors, by passing laws. All they have to do is pass a law that gives the legislature the authority to directly choose electors. The remedy already exists, the Supreme Court will not invent a new law.
But do you really want that? Every election would become meaningless because the loser would always claim fraud and it would go to the legislature.
Try reading the cases before the supreme court. So far all you have been doing is regurgitating leftist talking points.
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So far all you have been doing is regurgitating leftist talking points.
Actually what I've been doing is using my experience as a long time watcher of the Court. As I have not been wasting my time reading...errr....referencing leftist talking points, you should be somewhat afraid that their "talking points" correspond to what I independently know about SCOTUS behavior.
On 12/8, they issued a one sentence opinion saying they would not stop Pennsylvania from certifying the results of the election. With such a perfunctory dismissal of that attempt to block the election results, why would anyone hold out hope for something different here?
I suspect that by the end of the day we'll have an announcement that they will refuse to hear Texas v Pennsylvania. There's a smaller chance that they'll take the case, but I believe just about a zero chance they will change the election.
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The Supreme Court will not "allow" them to do that, they already have that authority to determine the method of choosing electors, by passing laws. All they have to do is pass a law that gives the legislature the authority to directly choose electors. The remedy already exists, the Supreme Court will not invent a new law.
But do you really want that? Every election would become meaningless because the loser would always claim fraud and it would go to the legislature.
The irony of this post....
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Every theft becomes meaningless when courts award the spoils to the thief.
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The irony of this post....
What irony? Right now Republicans hold more state legislatures, but that won't always be the case. Would you want to be in a situation where all Democrats had to do was complain, force it to a state legislature appointment of electors and win regardless of the outcome of an election? That is the law being proposed.
I'm not insensitive to what happened. Laws were broken and having those laws broken may have shifted a couple of states. We really don't know what behavior would have been if everyone was required to vote in person - would they have come out?
Regardless, from a precedence and authority standpoint, the Supreme Court is just not going to rule that a certified state's election is invalid. I think fines might be the best you can hope for.
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What irony? Right now Republicans hold more state legislatures, but that won't always be the case. Would you want to be in a situation where all Democrats had to do was complain, force it to a state legislature appointment of electors and win regardless of the outcome of an election? That is the law being proposed.
I'm not insensitive to what happened. Laws were broken and having those laws broken may have shifted a couple of states. We really don't know what behavior would have been if everyone was required to vote in person - would they have come out?
Regardless, from a precedence and authority standpoint, the Supreme Court is just not going to rule that a certified state's election is invalid. I think fines might be the best you can hope for.
Fines don’t mean shit and won’t change anything. Criminal charges need to be filed and people need to go to prison. Hopefully that’s something that will come out of this entire fucked up mess.
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What irony? Right now Republicans hold more state legislatures, but that won't always be the case. Would you want to be in a situation where all Democrats had to do was complain, force it to a state legislature appointment of electors and win regardless of the outcome of an election? That is the law being proposed.
I'm not insensitive to what happened. Laws were broken and having those laws broken may have shifted a couple of states. We really don't know what behavior would have been if everyone was required to vote in person - would they have come out?
Regardless, from a precedence and authority standpoint, the Supreme Court is just not going to rule that a certified state's election is invalid. I think fines might be the best you can hope for.
Have you even read the Texas v Pennsylvania lawsuit in it's entirety?
You clearly don't understand what is going on here because you keep referencing the SC ruling on their actions to invalidate the election.
Absolutely not the case and what is going on. What is happening (to which you keep denying) is the argument centers around the states executive and state judicial intervening and rewriting election laws without the consent of the legislature, which are clear violations of the constitution.
If the SC does in fact rule that these 4 states violated the US Constitution with their actions, it now places the role of the state legislatures to correct the situation, without interference of the executive and judicial.
The remedy? The state legislature could a) Do nothing, let the certification stand. b) Invalidate the election and choose their own slate of electors (which is constitutional) c) Hold a special election (not likely) d) sort out the election mess their executive and state judicial created and seat the electors based upon the outcome, or e) simply state the election is not valid and not send any electors to the electoral college.
All of the above is legal and is backed up by the constitution. Right now the battle in these states are the executive and judicials are trying to control the election process and remove the legislature.
Fines? Are you serious?
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If nothing is done, either now or over the next four years, to correct the issues that affected this election, no election in the future will be conducted without considerable fraud.
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In Georgia, there is not time for the legislature to pass a law. Our Legislature does not go into session until after the beginning of the year. The Governor is, sure as hell, not going to call a special session as he is busy covering for our SOS that a. made the deal with Dominion and b. agreed to the consent decree with the Stacy Abrams group that caused all of our problems.
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Having watched the Georgia video, the small part of it that was available, my biggest question is why were those four ballot boxes under a table with a covering over it?
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If nothing is done, either now or over the next four years, to correct the issues that affected this election, no election in the future will be conducted without considerable fraud.
I agree. So I hope the States get scared by this one and take appropriate steps for the future.
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I agree. So I hope the States get scared by this one and take appropriate steps for the future.
This is why Texas v Pennsylvania is so important.
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I agree. So I hope the States get scared by this one and take appropriate steps for the future.
It will not happen in Georgia based on what is currently happening. Raffensberger is not going to do away with the Dominion system as that would be admitting it is flawed.
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It will not happen in Georgia based on what is currently happening. Raffensberger is not going to do away with the Dominion system as that would be admitting it is flawed.
It's absolutely amazing to see what a trainwreck Georgia has become politically. We all know Michigan is a hell hole politically, but wow, Georgia says "hold my beer!"
The upcoming runoff election might as well go ahead and be called. Using the same system to run the election is absolutely mind numbing.
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It's absolutely amazing to see what a trainwreck Georgia has become politically. We all know Michigan is a hell hole politically, but wow, Georgia says "hold my beer!"
The upcoming runoff election might as well go ahead and be called. Using the same system to run the election is absolutely mind numbing.
Northeast, Yankee transplants have ruined the South.