PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on January 16, 2021, 07:39:38 PM
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https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/biden-immigration-package-to-offer-11-million-immigrants-pathway-to-citizenship/
So His Fraudulancy is going to mandate $15/hour minimum wage is his Covid free for all $1.9 trillion dollar bill, then he comes right behind that with amnesty for 11 million (will be lots more).
Of course we have extended unemployment benefits with a weekly supplement on top of that.
And if you haven't noticed, fuel prices are already increasing.
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https://neonnettle.com/news/13893-florida-restaurateur-biden-s-15-minimum-wage-will-destroy-hospitality-industry-
A Florida restaurateur claimed Joe Biden's plan to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 per hour would cripple the already-struggling hospitality industry.
Owner of Maria's Oyster Bars, John Horne, said his waitstaff already makes close to $30 per hour through a combination of wage and tip credits.
"I mean, obviously getting the money to people is helping us, but this minimum wage [hike] is absolutely going to destroy the hospitality industry in Florida and across the nation," Horne said.
"They are trying to paint with a broad brush the entire nation," he added.
"They are trying to say what's good in Alexandria, Va. is good in Alexandria, Tenn. We can't do that."
Horne said if the increase in wages becomes law, and "if we raise everyone to $15 and we don't take into consideration tip credits, then we are going to basically give everybody a pay cut of 50% ... because they will go from $30 an hour to $15 an hour."
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https://neonnettle.com/news/13893-florida-restaurateur-biden-s-15-minimum-wage-will-destroy-hospitality-industry-
I can't see where it explains when Biden's $15/hr minimum wage is expected to be implemented. Florida has already voted to increase the State minimum wage to $15 over the next 6 years, but I believe it retains the allowance of reduced minimum for service personnel that accrue additional tip income. It appears Biden's plan is to do away with that exception. That means tipping will pretty much go away.
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I can't see where it explains when Biden's $15/hr minimum wage is expected to be implemented. Florida has already voted to increase the State minimum wage to $15 over the next 6 years, but I believe it retains the allowance of reduced minimum for service personnel that accrue additional tip income. It appears Biden's plan is to do away with that exception. That means tipping will pretty much go away.
Xiden has already said his $1.9Trillion "covid relief" bill will include a federally mandated $15/hour minimum wage.
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Xiden has already said his $1.9Trillion "covid relief" bill will include a federally mandated $15/hour minimum wage.
So if it passes, the Federal minimum wage will be $15/hour immediately? OUCH! Since that will make everything cost more, will my SS check increase? And since now everything is going to cost more, won't those people need another minimum wage increase to keep up? And if that happens . . . (I'm getting dizzy).
At least we can stop adding 20% for all those people that are now receiving a living wage and don't need our additional contribution.
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Elections have consequences.
Letting someone steal an election has dire consequences.
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a pathway for 11 million immigrants...
what about the illegal immigrants?
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a pathway for 11 million immigrants...
what about the illegal immigrants?
Better figure 20 million plus. And there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. Not after Weds.
First wave of new immigrants will be here shortly. Expect more, especially from countries previously banned.
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Better figure 20 million plus. And there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. Not after Weds.
First wave of new immigrants will be here shortly. Expect more, especially from countries previously banned.
But fear of COVID-19 will keep them away... won't it?
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Our Stukas will deal with them.
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Here they come!
https://www.theepochtimes.com/some-9000-honduran-migrants-cross-north-into-guatemala_3659635.html
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I can't see where it explains when Biden's $15/hr minimum wage is expected to be implemented. Florida has already voted to increase the State minimum wage to $15 over the next 6 years, but I believe it retains the allowance of reduced minimum for service personnel that accrue additional tip income. It appears Biden's plan is to do away with that exception. That means tipping will pretty much go away.
Whatever Biden's plan is, it will need to get through Congress. Given that the Dems have some moderate and conservative members as well, and the margins of the Democrats control is razor thin, it is not for sure that what Biden proposes will be what Biden gets. Even less will it be what Sanders and AOC want.
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Hopefully, we can get a more comprehensive immigration bill passed. I can live with a path to citizenship for the illegals already here, but I want some concessions. I want a system to keep illegals from getting jobs. That would cut off much of the immigration. i want asylum rules tightened so that being from a shithole country is not enough to get you in. I want more immigration courts so that people who do knock on the door are processed, examined, and deported or let in, all in a couple of weeks so that we don't have to do catch and release. I want an end to birthright citizenship. To me, those things seem a fair trade.
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Hopefully, we can get a more comprehensive immigration bill passed. I can live with a path to citizenship for the illegals already here, but I want some concessions. I want a system to keep illegals from getting jobs. That would cut off much of the immigration. i want asylum rules tightened so that being from a shithole country is not enough to get you in. I want more immigration courts so that people who do knock on the door are processed, examined, and deported or let in, all in a couple of weeks so that we don't have to do catch and release. I want an end to birthright citizenship. To me, those things seem a fair trade.
Ok, who are you and what did you do with Kristin?
I think the "Path to citizenship" should be a tough one. However, I do have sympathy for kids that were brought over by their parents and have played by the rules since then.
But if we go down that road, we need IMMEDIATELY make it clear that that path does not apply to anyone that enters from here on out. Anyone that enters illegally going forward needs to be deported (or worse) asap. Otherwise we will see a virtual invasion.
I don't know how we could actually close the borders. Perhaps armed drones, but I doubt that would go over well.
Ideally, we would have a desk in those countries that would accept and process applications to enter the US. Those people would remain in their country until they are approved. I'm aware that a system like that exists, but it needs to be put on steroids. We need to end the stupid lottery and set standards, not quotas, but at the same time we should increase the allowable number of legal migrations while reducing the number of illegal entries to zero. If you want to come here, first identify yourself, then demonstrate a reason we should accept you.
I could go on with conditions and restrictions, I don't have the time. I'll just add that I am all for legal immigration and I think there should be much more of it and there should not be so many barriers. But I have little sympathy for people that enter illegally.
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Hopefully, we can get a more comprehensive immigration bill passed. I can live with a path to citizenship for the illegals already here, but I want some concessions. I want a system to keep illegals from getting jobs. That would cut off much of the immigration. i want asylum rules tightened so that being from a shithole country is not enough to get you in. I want more immigration courts so that people who do knock on the door are processed, examined, and deported or let in, all in a couple of weeks so that we don't have to do catch and release. I want an end to birthright citizenship. To me, those things seem a fair trade.
Odd, that was what President Trump wanted as well. ::)
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Odd, that was what President Trump wanted as well. ::)
then it was a bad bad BAD idea!
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Ok, who are you and what did you do with Kristin?
I think the "Path to citizenship" should be a tough one. However, I do have sympathy for kids that were brought over by their parents and have played by the rules since then.
But if we go down that road, we need IMMEDIATELY make it clear that that path does not apply to anyone that enters from here on out. Anyone that enters illegally going forward needs to be deported (or worse) asap. Otherwise we will see a virtual invasion.
I don't know how we could actually close the borders. Perhaps armed drones, but I doubt that would go over well.
Ideally, we would have a desk in those countries that would accept and process applications to enter the US. Those people would remain in their country until they are approved. I'm aware that a system like that exists, but it needs to be put on steroids. We need to end the stupid lottery and set standards, not quotas, but at the same time we should increase the allowable number of legal migrations while reducing the number of illegal entries to zero. If you want to come here, first identify yourself, then demonstrate a reason we should accept you.
I could go on with conditions and restrictions, I don't have the time. I'll just add that I am all for legal immigration and I think there should be much more of it and there should not be so many barriers. But I have little sympathy for people that enter illegally.
You might be surprised at some of my views which are considered generally to be conservative. I also have a number that are considered quite liberal.
I believe that the most effective deterrent to illegal immigration is to make it pretty much impossible to make money if you are here illegally. The politicians have been too hesitant to do that because some make money off that the illegals. The price of California produce might go up as a result, but I am willing to pay that price to cut off the flow of illegals. There is no way to completely seal the border. I agree that potential immigrants should have to go through a consulate or embassy to apply. If they are accepted, then they can march up to the border, take a plane, or whatever, and show their approved documentation and they are in.
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Odd, that was what President Trump wanted as well. ::)
I think Trump is a sociopath and a criminal. I never said that I didn't agree with some of the things he has done.
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But you can’t point to any crime he has committed that hasn’t been debunked and made you look like a fucking troll.
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I think Trump is a sociopath and a criminal. I never said that I didn't agree with some of the things he has done.
More projection.
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I think Trump is a sociopath and a criminal. I never said that I didn't agree with some of the things he has done.
What ACTIONS did Trump take or policies that he put in place that would define him as a Sociopath? What actions did he take that were criminal? Did he illegally bypass Congress and the courts?
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Whatever Biden's plan is, it will need to get through Congress. Given that the Dems have some moderate and conservative members as well, and the margins of the Democrats control is razor thin, it is not for sure that what Biden proposes will be what Biden gets. Even less will it be what Sanders and AOC want.
Never in my 40 years as a voter have a seen a party that votes en bloc more than the current democrats in Congress today. The republicans have more free thinkers and status seekers that like to be swing votes, but I never see that on the D side.
And if Schumer gets rid of cloture, then we’ll see what single party rule really means.
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then it was a bad bad BAD idea!
Orange man bad!
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You might be surprised at some of my views which are considered generally to be conservative. I also have a number that are considered quite liberal.
I believe that the most effective deterrent to illegal immigration is to make it pretty much impossible to make money if you are here illegally. The politicians have been too hesitant to do that because some make money off that the illegals. The price of California produce might go up as a result, but I am willing to pay that price to cut off the flow of illegals. There is no way to completely seal the border. I agree that potential immigrants should have to go through a consulate or embassy to apply. If they are accepted, then they can march up to the border, take a plane, or whatever, and show their approved documentation and they are in.
Both parties are culpable for the amount of illegal immigrants coming to the US. Democrats want new voters, republicans want low wage workers. Both reasons are evil.
Do you support building the wall as was planned?
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What ACTIONS did Trump take or policies he put in place that would define him as a Sociopath? What actions did he take that were criminal? Did he illegally bypass Congress and the courts?
Policy doesn't make someone a sociopath. Trump is a sociopath because he is one. The fact that he has no male friends, the fact that he stiffs contractors, the fact that he eventually throws all of his supporters under the bus as soon as they are no longer useful to him. All that that makes him a sociopath. Throwing Guiliani under the bus is his latest demonstration of his sociopathic tendencies.
He is an unconvicted criminal at this point, but as Paul Harvey used to say, stand by for news. Rape, obstruction of justice, inciting violence, conspiracy, etc. Trump has a historically corrupt administration.
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Never in my 40 years as a voter have a seen a party that votes en bloc more than the current democrats in Congress today. The republicans have more free thinkers and status seekers that like to be swing votes, but I never see that on the D side.
And if Schumer gets rid of cloture, then we’ll see what single party rule really means.
Both parties are about 50/50 on policy with respect to voting on a party line.
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Both parties are culpable for the amount of illegal immigrants coming to the US. Democrats want new voters, republicans want low wage workers. Both reasons are evil.
For various reasons, both parties are culpable. There is no real evidence that the Dems are in it for the votes. They, like the GOP's, are taking money from the entities that profit from the illegals.
Do you support building the wall as was planned?
Replacing the existing fences with something better, makes some sense, but I am not sure it is the most cost effective. Again, if we make it impossible for illegals to make money, then they will quit coming and a wall will not be needed. If we keep incentivizing illegals to come because they can make money, then no wall will prevent the migration.
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Policy doesn't make someone a sociopath. Trump is a sociopath because he is one.
This, friends, is a classic example of a tautology.
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He is an unconvicted criminal at this point, but as Paul Harvey used to say, stand by for news. Rape, obstruction of justice, inciting violence, conspiracy, etc. Trump has a historically corrupt administration.
No. There is no such thing as an unconvicted criminal. That would be violating the "innocent until PROVEN guilty" concept. Criminals have been convicted. Every else is unconvicted. Trump is innocent until PROVEN guilty.
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In other words, kristen is full of shit,.... as usual.
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Trump is a sociopath because he is one.
well, heck, why didn't you say so in the first place?
There we have it. incontrovertible proof.
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No. There is no such thing as an unconvicted criminal. That would be violating the "innocent until PROVEN guilty" concept. Criminals have been convicted. Every else is unconvicted. Trump is innocent until PROVEN guilty.
I don't have to give him the doubt enshrined in our criminal codes as I am not sitting on a jury trying him. Someone else may get that honor. Hopefully it will be a trial for sedition.
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I don't have to give him the doubt enshrined in our criminal codes as I am not sitting on a jury trying him. Someone else may get that honor. Hopefully it will be a trial for sedition.
Typical leftist. Trial by accusation. The accusation is serious enough to prove he's guilty, right?
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Typical leftist. Trial by accusation. The accusation is serious enough to prove he's guilty, right?
“It’s not the nature of the evidence; it’s the seriousness of the charge.”
The Left
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“It’s not the nature of the evidence; it’s the seriousness of the charge.”
The Left
Stan, you beat me to it. Gonna miss that man when he's gone.
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Stan, you beat me to it. Gonna miss that man when he's gone.
Yep. I can’t believe he’s back after Christmas, and he sounds virtually normal. He doesn’t sound tired, or sick, or even unenthusiastic. Yet the end is probably closer than we know.
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I don't have to give him the doubt enshrined in our criminal codes as I am not sitting on a jury trying him. Someone else may get that honor. Hopefully it will be a trial for sedition.
That's pathetic and totally incorrect.
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That's pathetic and totally incorrect.
Communists pretending to be democrats are never hindered by their lies, or the truth....
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Yep. I can’t believe he’s back after Christmas, and he sounds virtually normal. He doesn’t sound tired, or sick, or even unenthusiastic. Yet the end is probably closer than we know.
He does have the coughing thing. I wonder if they have a plan in place to continue on with the EIB after he's gone. I suspect the affiliates would not be happy with the continual stream of guest hosts.
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He does have the coughing thing. I wonder if they have a plan in place to continue on with the EIB after he's gone. I suspect the affiliates would not be happy with the continual stream of guest hosts.
I suspect the EIB will be over. Even the most prolific substitute Mark Stein couldn’t keep up that pace, OR have the insight of Rush, and balance the show between serious facts and humorous absurdity.
He’s one of a kind.
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I fully expect the "Fairness Doctrine" to be reintroduced and pushed through, which in essence will end talk radio. It will also reach into other conservative media as well.
The spectacle in DC is only the beginning. The DCP is already calling for a formation of a domestic spy operation, what's known elsewhere in the world as the "secret police".
You can bet the Patriot Act V2 awaiting in the House has this buried in it's 20,000 pages.
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Hopefully it will be a trial for sedition.
Sedition. Seriously?
And just when I thought you might be rational and calm. Your hate is making you say thing that you should know are not right. If you believe the president committed sedition, quote just one thing - in context - that he said that supports that.
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Typical leftist. Trial by accusation. The accusation is serious enough to prove he's guilty, right?
Mostly I based on what comes out of his mouth and what he has done.
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That's pathetic and totally incorrect.
So I am only allow to have opinions approved by the group?
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The word "sedition" has been tossed around rather freely, so I finally went and got the definition: "incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority".
Is what BLM and ANTIFA did in Portland, Seattle, NY, DC, LA, etc. then sedition? They clearly were resisting lawful authority when they blocked police cars, stormed government buildings, and blocked roads and freeways.
Nothing that Trump said or did incited anyone to resistance or insurrection.
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Sedition. Seriously?
And just when I thought you might be rational and calm. Your hate is making you say thing that you should know are not right. If you believe the president committed sedition, quote just one thing - in context - that he said that supports that.
Aside from everything he has said and tweeted that he actually won the election in a landslide, we have his speech to the crowd which he gathered on Jan 6:
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6
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Nothing that Trump said or did incited anyone to resistance or insurrection.
Clearly we disagree. See my previous post.
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Clearly we disagree. See my previous post.
We do disagree. Please give us one quote, in context, where he incited anyone to resistance or insurrection. Since you say that "everything" he said does this, it should be easy.
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We do disagree. Please give us one quote, in context, where he incited anyone to resistance or insurrection. Since you say that "pretty much everything" he said does this, it should be easy.
She can't
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We do disagree. Please give us one quote, in context, where he incited anyone to resistance or insurrection. Since you say that "everything" he said does this, it should be easy.
You are obviously a violent, racist, women hating, deplorable, pig for expecting the commie cunt to answer with anything resembling reality.
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The word "sedition" has been tossed around rather freely, so I finally went and got the definition: "incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority".
Is what BLM and ANTIFA did in Portland, Seattle, NY, DC, LA, etc. then sedition? They clearly were resisting lawful authority when they blocked police cars, stormed government buildings, and blocked roads and freeways.
Nothing that Trump said or did incited anyone to resistance or insurrection.
Since Trump was the President, he WAS lawful authority - indeed he was commander in chief. During the Whiskey Rebellion it was a sitting president, George Washington, who actually commanded forces in the field (first and so far only such president to do so.) He commanded federalized state militia, not Federal army units (the few were engaged elsewhere.) In the end, of hundreds of people who actively rebelled (many more offered verbal support,) only two were convicted of treason (not sedition) and sentenced to hang - but were eventually pardoned by Washington:
"The misled have abandoned their errors. For though I shall always think it a sacred duty to exercise with firmness and energy the constitutional powers with which I am vested, yet it appears to me no less consistent with the public good than it is with my personal feelings to mingle in the operations of Government every degree of moderation and tenderness which the national justice, dignity, and safety may permit.”
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The word "sedition" has been tossed around rather freely, so I finally went and got the definition: "incitement of resistance to or insurrection against lawful authority".
Is what BLM and ANTIFA did in Portland, Seattle, NY, DC, LA, etc. then sedition? They clearly were resisting lawful authority when they blocked police cars, stormed government buildings, and blocked roads and freeways.
Nothing that Trump said or did incited anyone to resistance or insurrection.
Don’t forget burning police cars (dozens of places), attempting to burn a jail housing inmates (Madison) and burning a police precinct (Minneapolis).
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Aside from everything he has said and tweeted that he actually won the election in a landslide, we have his speech to the crowd which he gathered on Jan 6:
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6
It’s a long speech. I watched all of it and didn’t hear anything in the same hemisphere of sedition. Can you highlight some sentences that cause you and other democrats to soil yourselves?
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It’s a long speech. I watched all of it and didn’t hear anything in the same hemisphere of sedition. Can you highlight some sentences that cause you and other democrats to soil yourselves?
They can't point to specifics because their far left radical, Marxist ideology is all based on LIES and getting the stupid to believe them.
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Aside from everything he has said and tweeted that he actually won the election in a landslide, we have his speech to the crowd which he gathered on Jan 6:
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6
It’s a long speech, so I might have missed the part where you think he told to crowd to storm the capitol. Was it when he said “ We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women”?
The most you have is that a politician gave a speech to his followers to energize them. But don’t all politicians do that?
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The most you have is that a politician gave a speech to his followers to energize them. But don’t all politicians do that?
Nope. Biden and hillary couldn't energize a bunny