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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: jb1842 on January 20, 2021, 09:19:47 AM

Title: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: jb1842 on January 20, 2021, 09:19:47 AM
So will all these new executive orders kill recreational flying? Will avgas become too expensive? Will all planes that burn low lead gas be banned? I think the last few years has seen an uptick of flying. Basicmed, stronger economy (prices of planes has gone up, and those on sale get sold faster) has nothing but helped us. Are those days over?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/biden-administration-fossil-fuel-crackdown
Title: Re: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: Mr Pou on January 20, 2021, 09:26:31 AM
So will all these new executive orders kill recreational flying? Will avgas become too expensive? Will all planes that burn low lead gas be banned? I think the last few years has seen an uptick of flying. Basicmed, stronger economy (prices of planes has gone up, and those on sale get sold faster) has nothing but helped us. Are those days over?

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/biden-administration-fossil-fuel-crackdown

I don't think avgas will be banned, nor will any other carbon fuels be banned. They will just be taxed so heavily as to make it painful for the average Joe.
Title: Re: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: Anthony on January 20, 2021, 09:28:03 AM
Yes his Presidency will impact GA very negatively.  They want to also further hinder our ability to travel freely and you can't get much freer than GA.
Title: Re: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: Little Joe on January 20, 2021, 09:28:10 AM
I don't think avgas will be banned, nor will any other carbon fuels be banned. They will just be taxed so heavily as to make it painful for the average Joe.
Well, I ain't no average Joe.  I might be called "Little", but I am more like Hoss.
Title: Re: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: Bob Noel on January 20, 2021, 09:38:27 AM
Other consequences of xiden stealing the election will probably have negative impact on GA (economy tanking, taxes taxes taxes).  xiden doesn't have to directly target GA to kill it.

Title: Re: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: You Only Live Twice on January 20, 2021, 09:43:18 AM
Xiden did not provide a response to AOPA's candidate questionnaire this cycle.
Title: Re: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: nddons on January 20, 2021, 09:43:38 AM
I’m going to immediately put solar panels on my Navion. I wonder if solar panels come in the shape of stars and bars.
Title: Re: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: Lucifer on January 20, 2021, 09:47:53 AM
100LL is a "boutique" fuel made in small quantities.   It's not a real money maker for the refineries.

 We are about to see a slew of new regulations aimed at making exploration and production harder to discourage fossil fuels.

 This last weekend I had a discussion with a friend of mine in the oil and gas industry.  He's very happy right now as they are anticipating $68/barrel fuel by summer.    That will put gas prices up over $3/gallon.    I suspect you'll see 100LL to go about $2.50-$3/gallon increase over current prices.
Title: Re: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: Mr Pou on January 20, 2021, 11:01:58 AM
100LL is a "boutique" fuel made in small quantities.   It's not a real money maker for the refineries.

 We are about to see a slew of new regulations aimed at making exploration and production harder to discourage fossil fuels.

 This last weekend I had a discussion with a friend of mine in the oil and gas industry.  He's very happy right now as they are anticipating $68/barrel fuel by summer.    That will put gas prices up over $3/gallon.    I suspect you'll see 100LL to go about $2.50-$3/gallon increase over current prices.

I expect mo gas prices to rise by that amount in the coming year.
Title: Re: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: Rush on January 20, 2021, 11:36:17 AM
Regardless of the price of avgas, GA will be over for the common person but will still be around so the elite class (politicians and their corporate buddies) can still fly around privately so no, it won’t be the death of GA but it will be out of the reach of most of us as the middle class is destroyed and they start raiding our 401(k)s.
Title: Re: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: bflynn on January 20, 2021, 12:50:43 PM
Well, this might be one thing that gets the airplane market to collapse...
Title: Re: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: nddons on January 20, 2021, 12:55:37 PM
Well, this might be one thing that gets the airplane market to collapse...
Ya’ll can thank me since I just bought my Navion. My timing is always impeccable.

I also built a large home in 2008. I mean real estate ALWAYS GOES UP, so it was a no brainer.  Or so I thought. Again, timing is everything.
Title: Re: Will Biden be the death to GA?
Post by: jb1842 on January 20, 2021, 01:49:00 PM
Ya’ll can thank me since I just bought my Navion. My timing is always impeccable.

I also built a large home in 2008. I mean real estate ALWAYS GOES UP, so it was a no brainer.  Or so I thought. Again, timing is everything.

I'm refinancing my mortgage on friday. After today, it makes me real happy to do it. I can't imagine how high rates are going to go in the next year.