PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on May 11, 2021, 10:02:13 AM
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“False claims”, the term, is popping up everywhere in news reports. This is a new phenomenon that’s never been this widespread. We know that it’s being applied to anything not in line with woke leftist groupthink, but now it seems to have become popular on any subject.
Here’s a story about a wacko cult leader:
Her teachings were sacrosanct, and her claims were even more fantastical than her title. She was Jesus Christ in one of her 534 past lives, could cure cancer, and could speak to the spirit of the late actor Robin Williams, she would often claim.
These false claims were promoted to believers in the US and around the world in daily livestreams on YouTube. In these videos, Ms Carlson's followers appealed for donations, flogged New Age merchandise, and doted on their leader.
Excuse me. False claims? No one can prove she isn’t a reincarnation of Christ, or speaks to the spirit of Robin Williams.
This is a logical fallacy completely inappropriate for supposed facts only journalism. In the past, they would have left the word “false” out and let the reader decide for themselves whether these claims have any validity, which 99.9999999% of readers would conclude are probably false.
The FACT is she made these claims. Period. No journalist can confirm that it’s a fact they are false.
That journalists now feel they must tell us these claims are false, as if we are too stupid not to believe they are true otherwise, is another sign of their arrogant contempt for their audience.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57017270
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“False claims”, the term, is popping up everywhere in news reports. This is a new phenomenon that’s never been this widespread. We know that it’s being applied to anything not in line with woke leftist groupthink, but now it seems to have become popular on any subject.
Here’s a story about a wacko cult leader:
Excuse me. False claims? No one can prove she isn’t a reincarnation of Christ, or speaks to the spirit of Robin Williams.
This is a logical fallacy completely inappropriate for supposed facts only journalism. In the past, they would have left the word “false” out and let the reader decide for themselves whether these claims have any validity, which 99.9999999% of readers would conclude are probably false.
The FACT is she made these claims. Period. No journalist can confirm that it’s a fact they are false.
That journalists now feel they must tell us these claims are false, as if we are too stupid not to believe they are true otherwise, is another sign of their arrogant contempt for their audience.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57017270
Journalism is dead. It's now run by activist with a political agenda.
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The reason news stories had not previously used the term “false claim” is because it was (and presumably still is) an absolute factual claim that is potentially libelous because it calls the claimant a liar. A legitimate news article would say “X claimed [or stated] Y” and optionally append “but did not offer evidence [or proof]”. They would not offer their judgement - at best they would have to point to a third party, e.g. “The court Z found Y to be false,” or “W claims Y is not true.”
Both “false claim” and “truthful claim” are both absolute statements that have no business appearing in genuine news articles. Once a news organizatiom makes a claim about truthfulness of anything without ascribing that judgement to some third party, it is on the hook for any libel or slander lawsuit that may follow.
I can only assume news organizations are hoping there is safety in numbers (since so many are now adopting the insertion of their judgement into alleged news articles.) I recall a very recent case where a news outlet lost a libel suit for precisely doing that. The other thing they may be relying on is the cost needed to bring a libel suit. I.e. do it till you get called on it.
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“False claims”, the term, is popping up everywhere in news reports. This is a new phenomenon that’s never been this widespread. We know that it’s being applied to anything not in line with woke leftist groupthink, but now it seems to have become popular on any subject.
Here’s a story about a wacko cult leader:
Excuse me. False claims? No one can prove she isn’t a reincarnation of Christ, or speaks to the spirit of Robin Williams.
This is a logical fallacy completely inappropriate for supposed facts only journalism. In the past, they would have left the word “false” out and let the reader decide for themselves whether these claims have any validity, which 99.9999999% of readers would conclude are probably false.
The FACT is she made these claims. Period. No journalist can confirm that it’s a fact they are false.
That journalists now feel they must tell us these claims are false, as if we are too stupid not to believe they are true otherwise, is another sign of their arrogant contempt for their audience.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57017270
Yes, they are abusing that term in much more factual situations, like Trump’s “claim” that election fraud occurred. They said this before investigations were commenced or cases were brought.
They consider themselves arbiters of truth when in fact they are nothing more than Pravda.
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One correction to my post - the case I was thinking of is still going on:
https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/22/project-veritas-wins-early-round-in-defamation-lawsuit-against-new-york-times/ (https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/22/project-veritas-wins-early-round-in-defamation-lawsuit-against-new-york-times/)
This is the part I thought backed up my view:
“”If a writer interjects an opinion in a news article (and will seek to claim legal protections as opinion) it stands to reason that the writer should have an obligation to alert the reader, including a court that may need to determine whether it is fact or opinion, that it is opinion,” Judge Charles Wood of the New York State Supreme Court said in his March 18, 2021 ruling.”
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I've noticed this "false claims" trend as well. How do they know it's false?
(From the AP) House Republicans ousted Rep. Liz Cheney from her post as the chamber’s No. 3 GOP leader on Wednesday, punishing her after she repeatedly rebuked former President Donald Trump for his false claims of election fraud and his role in fomenting the Jan. 6 Capitol attack.
This is opinion injected into a "news" story. They just keep hammering the "big lie" and "false claim" with no proof that it is a lie or false. There has been no completed audit of the election to see if it was indeed fair. They story is just false because they want it to be false. This opinion hiding as journalism has to stop. But of course it never will.
Let one democrat repeatedly rebuke Xiden and see what happens to that person. I'll bet they get removed from whatever post they are in as well.