PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on March 17, 2016, 05:43:22 PM
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http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/suicide-of-gop-or-its-rebirth/
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Mr. Buchanan brings up some good points such as Trump's ability to take on the media and his helping to bring out record numbers of voters. But the notion that Ted Cruz should just roll over and give up is silly. What Mr. Buchanan failed to take into account was Trump's current unfavorable numbers and his flip flopping on several issues (including such important ones as the 2nd Amendment), among others. He also fails to recognize that Trump is a threat to the establishment power (I'm okay with this one) but also is not a conservative. Mr. Buchanan seems okay with this so long as Trump runs on the Republican ticket and wins. Trump is the angry vote, not necessarily the right vote. I see why he appeals to so many people, but as I've said before, I'm just not sold on him. I'm also not sure that I want him to be the face of the "new" Republican party.
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"Whatever one may think of the Donald, he has exposed not only how far out of touch our political elites are, but how insular is the audience that listens to our media elite."
This is true, but also I think he's further exposing just how much our population has dumbed-down. And it's not just him. It's the fact that Hillary, Sanders, Trump, etc. are even major contenders.
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"Whatever one may think of the Donald, he has exposed not only how far out of touch our political elites are, but how insular is the audience that listens to our media elite."
This is true, but also I think he's further exposing just how much our population has dumbed-down. And it's not just him. It's the fact that Hillary, Sanders, Trump, etc. are even major contenders.
It's almost like people have bets regarding which party can nominate the worst candidate...
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"Whatever one may think of the Donald, he has exposed not only how far out of touch our political elites are, but how insular is the audience that listens to our media elite."
This is true, but also I think he's further exposing just how much our population has dumbed-down. And it's not just him. It's the fact that Hillary, Sanders, Trump, etc. are even major contenders.
Totally agree. It also exposed the Republican leadership not caring about votes, but caring only about their pecking order. Dopes.
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"Whatever one may think of the Donald, he has exposed not only how far out of touch our political elites are, but how insular is the audience that listens to our media elite."
This is true, but also I think he's further exposing just how much our population has dumbed-down. And it's not just him. It's the fact that Hillary, Sanders, Trump, etc. are even major contenders.
Amen. The ineptitude of the electorate is stunning. The social media generation apparently isn't using that technology to learn anything about the world or about our country. But they're all over the glitterati and celebrity matters. Fools.
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"Whatever one may think of the Donald, he has exposed not only how far out of touch our political elites are, but how insular is the audience that listens to our media elite."
This is true, but also I think he's further exposing just how much our population has dumbed-down. And it's not just him. It's the fact that Hillary, Sanders, Trump, etc. are even major contenders.
The political elites are not out of touch at all, they are very happy just responding to the money folks and giving lip service to the citizens they purport to represent.
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I think these Republican MF'ers need to spend a hard winter at Valley Forge. I've never even been insulted by the Democrats like that.
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"Whatever one may think of the Donald, he has exposed not only how far out of touch our political elites are, but how insular is the audience that listens to our media elite."
This is true, but also I think he's further exposing just how much our population has dumbed-down. And it's not just him. It's the fact that Hillary, Sanders, Trump, etc. are even major contenders.
I have had just about fucking enough of this.
This is the problem with the discourse, I don't agree with you or whoever and I somehow must be fucking stupid.
I've got a damnned genius level IQ, tested. I have a 22 year career in engineering and management. I am a Commercial rated pilot with flight time in more than 40 different make/model aircraft. I have started and purchased businesses, employed people, managed multi-million dollar programs in the aerospace and defense fields.
I have specific reasons for most of the choices I make in life, and that includes political choices.
This is what is wrong with us as a divided people - it is not just a lack of respect for people of differing opinion, it is an outright pathological compulsion to denigrate them, demean and dismiss them. Call them names. Insult their intelligence, to malign their education and to mock their choices with no respect for how or why they arrived there.
It calls to the worst in us and I am fucking sick and tired of it.
'Gimp
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"Whatever one may think of the Donald, he has exposed not only how far out of touch our political elites are, but how insular is the audience that listens to our media elite."
This is true, but also I think he's further exposing just how much our population has dumbed-down. And it's not just him. It's the fact that Hillary, Sanders, Trump, etc. are even major contenders.
It may have a lot to do with who will actually volunteer for the job. The best and brightest wouldn't touch the job no matter what. I doubt anybody here would take it. Think about having your entire past and your family ragged through the mud. Then for at least the next four years, having your every word, or action scrutinized and criticized and then have half of the country verbally hate you and about 2% of the country actually want to kill you, with one or two actually try.
The vast majority say no, thanks.
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About the original post and question-
Yes, the suicide of the GOP. Probably a long time coming. From the article-
This opportunity for Republicans should be a cause for rejoicing, not all this weeping and gnashing of teeth. If the party in Cleveland can bring together the Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and John Kasich forces, the White House, Supreme Court and Congress are all within reach.
The only problem with that is, Donald Trump would be president.
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If people want to stand in a circle and sing about the end of the republican party, they should consider how fed up the democrats are with Hilary, that a huge (Yuuuge) portion of their faithful zombies are supporting Bernie Sanders.
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If people want to stand in a circle and sing about the end of the republican party, they should consider how fed up the democrats are with Hilary, that a huge (Yuuuge) portion of their faithful zombies are supporting Bernie Sanders.
It's not quite the same level of frustration. Democrats are annoyed that Hillary has been chosen and the presumptive nominee for years now. They don't really like her and they feel she was just calling it in. They don't like the fact that the party doesn't really give them a choice in the matter.
So when Bernie came along, it gave them something to rally behind and now they really like the fact that Hillary has to actually work for her nomination. However, at the end of the day, they all know Bernie Sanders is not going to be president of the United States. He is more of a fantasy candidate for them. They all know they will be voting for Hillary even though they most still really don't like her.
They will not be staying home. They vast majority will not be switching to Trump. None will switch to Cruz. Either Trump or Cruz will get them out to vote for Hillary. If the Democrats win or lose in November, the Democratic party will stay intact. They just don't have the vicious infighting and large divides that the GOP has.
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If people want to stand in a circle and sing about the end of the republican party, they should consider how fed up the democrats are with Hilary, that a huge (Yuuuge) portion of their faithful zombies are supporting Bernie Sanders.
but, in the general election, the democrats will vote for whatever lying piece of crap with a (D) next to the name
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but, in the general election, the democrats will vote for whatever lying piece of crap with a (D) next to the name
This is true. However with either Trump, or Cruz on the (R) ticket, it will shake many Democrats out of their apathy and actually come out to vote (D). If it were Hillary vs. Bob Dole or something, many would stay home in apathy, or toss their vote on the Green Party or something.
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This is true. However with either Trump, or Cruz on the (R) ticket, it will shake many Democrats out of their apathy and actually come out to vote (D). If it were Hillary vs. Bob Dole or something, many would stay home in apathy, or toss their vote on the Green Party or something.
I still wouldn't count out a 3rd Party run by the Sandersnistas