PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 19, 2016, 10:57:04 AM
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I followed this video avidly. He has points NO ONE ELSE is raising.
Really, segue-ing into a third party type situation may look something like this; a crossover/blended candidate.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/03/trump-by-the-script.php
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I'll be anxious to watch that speech over the weekend. The random top-of-the-mind speeches have been one thing that has given me serious pause about Trump. I look back and in my mind's eye I see him bending over the podium in his goofy red hat saying "I love Iowa. And, look, I don't have to say it, I'm a Presbyterian. Can you believe it? Nobody believes I'm a Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian!"
Oookaaay.
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Can't argue that Mr. Trump's 2013 CPAC speech was far more organized and coherent than anything I've seen him give on the stump tour. That said, his message is very much the same as he is using now - illegal immigrants are killing America, we need to bring back jobs, we don't make anything, our leaders are idiots (those examples aren't hard to find :)) and what a great person he is. Can't say he brought up something that hasn't already been said by other candidates.
On the issue of bringing jobs back to America, that is a common refrain from all the candidates. The big question that's left unanswered is just how do you do that. It isn't that easy in todays global economy. Good read on the subject:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/manufacturing-jobs-are-never-coming-back/
Capital always follows return. So long as off-shore workers are willing to work for less than US workers, labor intensive industries will follow the return and go there. Trade barriers and tariffs may have a short term benefit, but in the long term, they will be very detrimental to the US. Country to the rhetoric thrown about, America isn't a third class manufacturing entity, we are actually doing pretty well. We aren't failing miserably, it is the rest of the world that has caught up to us in terms of technology, intellectual ability and capacity. Nothing we do can change that. The tough part is figuring out how to adapt in that situation.
Gary
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Gary,
You may want to put the word "ILLEGAL" in front of immigrants above. Other than that, I agree with what you said.
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Gary,
You may want to put the word "ILLEGAL" in front of immigrants above. Other than that, I agree with what you said.
Leftists make no such distinction. I weakens their argument for unfettered cultural (and electoral ) change in their favor.
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The random top-of-the-mind speeches have been one thing that has given me serious pause about Trump.
Ever hear Obama without his TelePrompTer?
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Ever hear Obama without his TelePrompTer?
Exactly.
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Ever hear Obama without his TelePrompTer?
To be...uh...perfectly clear...uh...uh...I think I may have...uh...once or maybe...uh...twice...since the...uh...Great Depression.
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Gary,
You may want to put the word "ILLEGAL" in front of immigrants above. Other than that, I agree with what you said.
You are correct!
Gary
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The only way to bring jobs back to the U.S., especially manufacturing jobs which create the greatest economic multiplier is to make it attractive to employers from a profitability perspective. That means making labor costs almost in line with foreign workers, less transportation and other costs of doing business overseas. That is a difficult proposition at this point because most American workers don't want to work for $4.00/hour.
I don't know the answer. What I do know is that ideas are worth money too, and innovation, and better ways of using labor to ADD VALUE TO PRODUCTS is the key to economic growth. Take the obstacles away from innovation, and we will prosper. Continue over regulating and over taxing, and we will fail. We are currently FAILING.
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Take the obstacles away from innovation, and we will prosper. Continue over regulating and over taxing, and we will fail. We are currently FAILING.
Absolutely.
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The only way to bring jobs back to the U.S., especially manufacturing jobs which create the greatest economic multiplier is to make it attractive to employers from a profitability perspective. That means making labor costs almost in line with foreign workers, less transportation and other costs of doing business overseas. That is a difficult proposition at this point because most American workers don't want to work for $4.00/hour.
I don't know the answer. What I do know is that ideas are worth money too, and innovation, and better ways of using labor to ADD VALUE TO PRODUCTS is the key to economic growth. Take the obstacles away from innovation, and we will prosper. Continue over regulating and over taxing, and we will fail. We are currently FAILING.
Actually, it not a matter of want, they can't work for $4.00 an hour. That's not enough pay to live anywhere in the country.
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The only way to bring jobs back to the U.S., especially manufacturing jobs which create the greatest economic multiplier is to make it attractive to employers from a profitability perspective. That means making labor costs almost in line with foreign workers, less transportation and other costs of doing business overseas. That is a difficult proposition at this point because most American workers don't want to work for $4.00/hour.
I don't know the answer. What I do know is that ideas are worth money too, and innovation, and better ways of using labor to ADD VALUE TO PRODUCTS is the key to economic growth. Take the obstacles away from innovation, and we will prosper. Continue over regulating and over taxing, and we will fail. We are currently FAILING.
I disagree with the labor cost issue in your post. I think the biggest problem is the corporate tax code, which nails profits at 35% followed by punitive regulations on both the local and federal levels. The next issue is trade deficits caused mostly by agreements that allow our markets to be open while our "partners" markets are closed to us. Fix these issues and our economy will boom.
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The only way to bring jobs back to the U.S., especially manufacturing jobs which create the greatest economic multiplier is to make it attractive to employers from a profitability perspective. That means making labor costs almost in line with foreign workers, less transportation and other costs of doing business overseas. That is a difficult proposition at this point because most American workers don't want to work for $4.00/hour.
I don't know the answer. What I do know is that ideas are worth money too, and innovation, and better ways of using labor to ADD VALUE TO PRODUCTS is the key to economic growth. Take the obstacles away from innovation, and we will prosper. Continue over regulating and over taxing, and we will fail. We are currently FAILING.
With lower taxes, and less restrictive regulation, and with the elimination of shipping products vast distances over the ocean, and with the efficiency of our highway and communications systems;
the difference in labor rates would not make it as attractive to send so many jobs offshore.
It is when you add all those things together that offshoring makes so much sense.
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I disagree with the labor cost issue in your post. I think the biggest problem is the corporate tax code, which nails profits at 35% followed by punitive regulations on both the local and federal levels. The next issue is trade deficits caused mostly by agreements that allow our markets to be open while our "partners" markets are closed to us. Fix these issues and our economy will boom.
I agree that it is also Tax policy, EPA regs, and other obstacles, but labor is the largest component.
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I agree that it is also Tax policy, EPA regs, and other obstacles, but labor is the largest component.
Highly paid (for the actual skill required) union jobs on assembly lines caused those jobs to be either offshored or automated.
Computer/communications technologies caused highly paid, but very skilled, non-union jobs to be offshored, and H1B onshored because over the last decade or so those foreign people gained skills that they they could compete for jobs with native American workers.
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I agree that it is also Tax policy, EPA regs, and other obstacles, but labor is the largest component.
Yeah, it probably is the single largest component.
But taxes and transcontinental shipping sure add up quickly.
And the inefficiencies of running a plant thousands of miles away is not insignificant.
Add in other issues like OSHA, EPA and other regulatory compliance costs, and suddenly, I think you will find that even though labor is the single largest cost, without those other related costs, we could still pay local labor rates and break even.
All of those expenses are additive, and we do still have companies that continue to manufacture here. Offshoring is a big decision and doesn't always pay off. Companies don't offshore jobs for pleasure. It is usually a huge decision based on many factors. But our government's solution to companies that offshore jobs is to raise taxes on those companies that do so; and guess what that causes? INVERSION. Yep, government solutions are again making the problem worse. Because the idiots running our government have no idea how business works.
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Yep, government solutions are again making the problem worse. Because the idiots running our government have no idea how business works.
Nor do they care.
Trump 2016!