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Title: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Number7 on September 22, 2021, 08:10:20 PM
Cue the commie democrats screaming and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

The professional rationalizes will be out in force shouting down this inconvenient truth.

The chinese virus was intentionally released at the world military games in 2019.

All of steingar's and flynn's and others never ending bulls hit denigrating that this was a biological attack is being erased by inconvenient facts. Just like their never ending bullshit about the election not having been stolen, the chinese virus narrative is being outed as nothing but bullshit.

https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-chinese-defector-claims-covid-outbreak-was-intentionally-released-in-october-2019-at-military-world-games-crugg/
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 23, 2021, 04:24:07 AM
Russian disinformation
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Mr Pou on September 23, 2021, 04:27:24 AM
It was biological economic warfare, plain and simple.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Anthony on September 23, 2021, 04:47:37 AM
It was biological economic warfare, plain and simple.

Economic and Social warfare to help create justification for a Totalitarian State.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 23, 2021, 04:49:40 AM
or, simply taking advantage of an incident.  iow - even if not intentional, play it up, get people spun up about it.  Fearmongering over a pathogen, fearmongering over bio-war, arf-arf (2 point for knowing that reference as used without google or the like).



Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Steingar on September 23, 2021, 06:13:41 AM
One guy says something and it must be the Odin-honest truth.  Just read an analysis in Science or Cell.  There were isolated cases around the area prior, folks contacting wildlife.  But the start of the pandemic occurred around the markets. The reason the artificial virus misinformation has such legs is no-one has identified the wild type virus that evolved into COVID19.  There just isn't a good candidate.  That isn't that surprising, there are all sorts of coronaviruses circulating in animals in that area of the world. We never found the source virus for AIDS, either. 

Like I keep saying, if the Chinese invented this from whole cloth we've lost.  We can't make a virus like this.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Number7 on September 23, 2021, 06:20:07 AM
Man.

Mike.

Lay off the scotch first thing in the morning.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Lucifer on September 23, 2021, 06:21:45 AM
One guy says something and it must be the Odin-honest truth.  Just read an analysis in Science or Cell.  There were isolated cases around the area prior, folks contacting wildlife.  But the start of the pandemic occurred around the markets. The reason the artificial virus misinformation has such legs is no-one has identified the wild type virus that evolved into COVID19.  There just isn't a good candidate.  That isn't that surprising, there are all sorts of coronaviruses circulating in animals in that area of the world. We never found the source virus for AIDS, either. 

Like I keep saying, if the Chinese invented this from whole cloth we've lost.  We can't make a virus like this.

 Which university has the CCP promised you tenure if you participate in their misinformation campaign?
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 23, 2021, 06:26:55 AM
Which university has the CCP promised you tenure if you participate in their misinformation campaign?

why do you think he would have to be bought?

Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Lucifer on September 23, 2021, 06:34:52 AM
why do you think he would have to be bought?

 He needs someone to tenure him.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Steingar on September 23, 2021, 07:32:53 AM
Which university has the CCP promised you tenure if you participate in their misinformation campaign?

My old boss moved back to the PRC, he is now working in a hospital in Macao.  Thankfully he is back to publishing great papers in international journals, I was worried for a bit.  I was surprised he went back, the stories he told about the Cultural revolution were hair raising to say the least.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Lucifer on September 23, 2021, 07:51:17 AM
My old boss moved back to the PRC, he is now working in a hospital in Macao.  Thankfully he is back to publishing great papers in international journals, I was worried for a bit.  I was surprised he went back, the stories he told about the Cultural revolution were hair raising to say the least.

 Yea, but tenure.  And becoming a full professor.  And being admired.  You should be all over that.

 Oh, and in the classroom?  If someone disagrees with you, you can have them removed and "re-educated".   I would think you would be excited to have the chance.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: nddons on September 23, 2021, 08:39:02 AM
Yea, but tenure.  And becoming a full professor.  And being admired.  You should be all over that.

 Oh, and in the classroom?  If someone disagrees with you, you can have them removed and "re-educated".   I would think you would be excited to have the chance.
Re-educated on how to do origami? 
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 23, 2021, 08:44:02 AM
Cue the commie democrats screaming and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

The professional rationalizes will be out in force shouting down this inconvenient truth.

The chinese virus was intentionally released at the world military games in 2019.

All of steingar's and flynn's and others never ending bulls hit denigrating that this was a biological attack is being erased by inconvenient facts. Just like their never ending bullshit about the election not having been stolen, the chinese virus narrative is being outed as nothing but bullshit.

https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-chinese-defector-claims-covid-outbreak-was-intentionally-released-in-october-2019-at-military-world-games-crugg/

It turns out that Wei Jingsheng is a well known Chinese human rights activists who in the past has been arrested and imprisoned by Chinese authorities. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Jingsheng (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Jingsheng)) Therefore he could not be considered an unbiased reporter.

His information is second-hand and his claimed sources cannot be revealed, per the article:

“Mr Jingsheng who was exiled to the US years earlier said he was aware of what was happening through Beijing Communist Party insiders who shared their fears about the situation and described the central government cover-up.”

“The Chinese dissident would not disclose which political leaders he spoke to but insisted they were senior government figures and had the ear of then-President Donald Trump.”
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Lucifer on September 23, 2021, 09:28:45 AM
It turns out that Wei Jingsheng is a well known Chinese human rights activists who in the past has been arrested and imprisoned by Chinese authorities. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Jingsheng (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wei_Jingsheng)) Therefore he could not be considered an unbiased reporter.

His information is second-hand and his claimed sources cannot be revealed, per the article:

“Mr Jingsheng who was exiled to the US years earlier said he was aware of what was happening through Beijing Communist Party insiders who shared their fears about the situation and described the central government cover-up.”

“The Chinese dissident would not disclose which political leaders he spoke to but insisted they were senior government figures and had the ear of then-President Donald Trump.”

 You seriously using wikipedia as your reference.

 Seriously??
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 23, 2021, 09:43:09 AM
You seriously using wikipedia as your reference.

 Seriously??

He has his own organizational web site which contains the same info:
http://www.weijingsheng.org/wei/en.html (http://www.weijingsheng.org/wei/en.html)

A web search on his name yields plenty of info. His claims could be correct, but he isn’t an unbiased source.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: bflynn on September 24, 2021, 05:03:23 AM
There's also no corroboration to his story.  I see no reason to believe him.

Occom's razor still points me at an accidental release.  It doesn't require a devious plot to destroy the world, it doesn't require outlandish scenarios or nefarious motives.  Someone slipped and infected themselves.  They carried the virus out to the world and stopped by the market to buy some fish for dinner.  From there, the virus spread.

The fact that China won't let anyone else in that lab practically screams that they're hiding something there.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 24, 2021, 07:59:44 AM
“Practically.” 🥸🤣
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Mr Pou on September 24, 2021, 08:36:43 AM
There's also no corroboration to his story.  I see no reason to believe him.

Occom's razor still points me at an accidental release.  It doesn't require a devious plot to destroy the world, it doesn't require outlandish scenarios or nefarious motives.  Someone slipped and infected themselves.  They carried the virus out to the world and stopped by the market to buy some fish for dinner.  From there, the virus spread.

The fact that China won't let anyone else in that lab practically screams that they're hiding something there.

If it was accidental, it sure was a convenient time to have an accident. Just sayin...
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: bflynn on September 24, 2021, 11:02:12 AM
What was convenient about the timing? 
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Rush on September 24, 2021, 12:05:15 PM
What was convenient about the timing?

The election.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: nddons on September 24, 2021, 01:17:14 PM
The election.
I thought that was evident to everyone. Or should be.

Of course the same people believe the same guy that didn’t campaign, didn’t give speeches, didn’t really run, can’t complete a cogent sentence, and has handlers to tell him which way to turn in the rose garden is the same guy who got the most legitimate votes for any president, ever.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Rush on September 24, 2021, 01:20:41 PM
I thought that was evident to everyone. Or should be.

Of course the same people believe the same guy that didn’t campaign, didn’t give speeches, didn’t really run, can’t complete a cogent sentence, and has handlers to tell him which way to turn in the rose garden is the same guy who got the most legitimate votes for any president, ever.

Yep, people like that missed the fact that the pandemic was used to deliberately rig the election as was self admitted by a group of democrats in the Time.org article, whether the virus was deliberately released or not, it was used to get rid of Trump.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Number7 on September 24, 2021, 04:42:46 PM
Yep, people like that missed the fact that the pandemic was used to deliberately rig the election as was self admitted by a group of democrats in the Time.org article, whether the virus was deliberately released or not, it was used to get rid of Trump.

Flynn was just being his typical asshole self, pretending to intellectual superiority by asking asshole questions, thinking they make his shallow ass look smart.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: bflynn on September 24, 2021, 07:34:33 PM
I thought that was evident to everyone. Or should be.

I guess my brain doesn't go there.  It never occurred to me that it would be a plot to keep Trump from getting elected.  There's too many loose threads to it.  Infect your own people hoping that it will become a pandemic across the world and everyone will blame the president for it?

There's so much random in that and on top of everything, it didn't work. The pandemic isn't why Trump lost.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Rush on September 24, 2021, 07:48:21 PM
I guess my brain doesn't go there.  It never occurred to me that it would be a plot to keep Trump from getting elected.  There's too many loose threads to it.  Infect your own people hoping that it will become a pandemic across the world and everyone will blame the president for it?

There's so much random in that and on top of everything, it didn't work. The pandemic isn't why Trump lost.

The pandemic IS why he lost, it’s obvious and it was confessed to by the very people that organized it!. Personally I don’t think the virus was planned. But once we had the lockdowns and the damage to the economy became obvious, his enemies jumped on it. They deliberately and calculatingly conspired (their words) to fix the election. The pandemic enabled mail in ballets, and all the expansion of deadlines, AND the social distancing which keep the bipartisan observers from actually seeing the ballots as they were counted, all of which enabled all the cheating that swung the election in just a few key districts in the wee hours of Nov. 4.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Chad Redford on September 24, 2021, 09:52:51 PM
If it was accidental, it sure was a convenient time to have an accident. Just sayin...

If it was intentional it sure was moronic to release it in your own country right next to a fucking biolab.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 24, 2021, 11:44:25 PM
If it was intentional it sure was moronic to release it in your own country right next to a fucking biolab.

Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 25, 2021, 04:15:11 AM
If it was intentional it sure was moronic to release it in your own country right next to a fucking biolab.

disinformaton

hide in plain sight

Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Username on September 25, 2021, 04:53:37 AM
If it was intentional it sure was moronic to release it in your own country right next to a fucking biolab.
When you have a population over a billion, what's a few million dead?  Reasonable casualties considering the result is the downfall of the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: bflynn on September 25, 2021, 05:32:04 AM
it’s obvious and it was confessed to by the very people that organized it!.

According to people here, it was planned by Chinese leadership. Xi confessed to that? 
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: nddons on September 25, 2021, 06:25:51 AM
When you have a population over a billion, what's a few million dead?  Reasonable casualties considering the result is the downfall of the rest of the world.
And the result is also taking down the ONLY world leader who was holding China accountable.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2021, 06:32:24 AM
And the result is also taking down the ONLY world leader who was holding China accountable.

But so many were butthurt over tweets!   Wasn’t all this worth it to end those mean tweets??
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Rush on September 25, 2021, 06:33:43 AM
According to people here, it was planned by Chinese leadership. Xi confessed to that?

Not me. I never said China did this deliberately. The people that confessed were American Democrats. I view it as them taking opportunistic advantage of a situation they didn’t create or expect, but they had been looking and hoping for any means to get rid of Trump, and up to the pandemic had so far only come up with Russia Russia Russia.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Number7 on September 25, 2021, 06:23:12 PM
Shady "relationship" with china and wuhan lab scuttles 'unbiased' Covid panel

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10028443/Lancets-COVID-origins-panel-disbands-ties-Peter-Daszaks-EcoHealth-Alliance.html
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Chad Redford on September 25, 2021, 10:10:22 PM
disinformaton

hide in plain sight

You mean like 9/11 and the Dancing Israelis?  Funny how no one here talks about that.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Number7 on September 26, 2021, 03:32:27 AM
You mean like 9/11 and the Dancing Israelis?  Funny how no one here talks about that.

Bullshit on a Q tip.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Chad Redford on September 26, 2021, 04:43:48 AM
Bullshit on a Q tip.

Yeah and i bet you believe that Building 7 collapsed into its own footprints because of fire.

No wonder you're this fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 26, 2021, 04:47:09 AM
Are you an expert on building demolition?
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Chad Redford on September 26, 2021, 04:53:10 AM
Are you an expert on building demolition?

No but the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 truth, who have some 3,000+ architects and engineers, are.

https://www.ae911truth.org/

You gotta be fucking kidding me right?
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Number7 on September 26, 2021, 04:54:17 AM
Are you an expert on building demolition?

Nope.

He's an asshole, with a bad attitude to go with serious delusions.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Chad Redford on September 26, 2021, 09:41:07 AM
Nope.

He's an asshole, with a bad attitude to go with serious delusions.

I'm not the retard that thinks the CCP controls the US government.  You're a fucking joke.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Number7 on September 26, 2021, 09:46:09 AM
I'm not the retard that thinks the CCP controls the US government.  You're a fucking joke.

Come back when you have better material.
You, flynn and POS seem to constantly lack anything of substance.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2021, 09:46:47 AM
I'm not the retard that thinks the CCP controls the US government.  You're a fucking joke.

Which retard are you?
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Chad Redford on September 26, 2021, 10:12:17 AM
Come back when you have better material.
You, flynn and POS seem to constantly lack anything of substance.

Come back when you actually have an argument.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on September 26, 2021, 11:36:27 AM
And the result is also taking down the ONLY world leader who was holding China accountable.
That wasn't the result, that was the plan.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on September 26, 2021, 11:39:16 AM
No but the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 truth, who have some 3,000+ architects and engineers, are.

https://www.ae911truth.org/

You gotta be fucking kidding me right?

LMAO, debunked 100 times, dumbass twoofer.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Chad Redford on September 26, 2021, 11:45:48 AM
LMAO, debunked 100 times, dumbass twoofer.

Where's the debunking?  And this is coming from a forum who thinks China controls the US.  Holy fucking shit you really are a special kind of retard.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on September 26, 2021, 12:04:56 PM
Where's the debunking?  And this is coming from a forum who thinks China controls the US.  Holy fucking shit you really are a special kind of retard.

An insult coming from a guy who thinks aluminum airliners should bounce off steel buildings is laughable.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Chad Redford on September 26, 2021, 12:14:55 PM
An insult coming from a guy who thinks aluminum airliners should bounce off steel buildings is laughable.

And where the fuck did I say that?  My God you're even dumber than the retards at POA.  You're hallucination is truly fucking special.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on September 26, 2021, 12:23:34 PM
And where the fuck did I say that?  My God you're even dumber than the retards at POA.

Or was it HAARP beams or holograms? I lost track of the most recent theories. Or probably just the jooo "owner" Larry Silverstein getting his money.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Chad Redford on September 26, 2021, 12:31:50 PM
Or was it HAARP beams or holograms? I lost track of the most recent theories. Or probably just the jooo "owner" Larry Silverstein getting his money.

Never said any of that either. 

Oh oh how about this. Joe Biden is actually a secret chinaman and his real is Fu Man Chu.

Did I get it right?
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 26, 2021, 12:38:26 PM
Or was it HAARP beams or holograms? I lost track of the most recent theories. Or probably just the jooo "owner" Larry Silverstein getting his money.

Arguing against a position that a person never made is bad form because it justifies the same thing being done to you.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Lucifer on September 26, 2021, 12:41:37 PM
Never said any of that either. 

Oh oh how about this. Joe Biden is actually a secret chinaman and his real is Fu Man Chu.

Did I get it right?

No, his Chinese name is Wun Dum Fuk. 
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Chad Redford on September 26, 2021, 12:46:44 PM
No, his Chinese name is Wun Dum Fuk.

Whoa whoa whoa really!?  Cause I'm pretty sure that's Korean.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on September 26, 2021, 01:18:25 PM
Arguing against a position that a person never made is bad form because it justifies the same thing being done to you.

You a fellow Twoofer?
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 26, 2021, 02:41:25 PM
You a fellow Twoofer?

I don’t disagree with your position, I disagree with the argument you used.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on September 26, 2021, 06:24:40 PM
I don’t disagree with your position, I disagree with the argument you used.

I wasn't arguing, I was mocking.
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Anthony on September 26, 2021, 07:45:28 PM
Where's the debunking?  And this is coming from a forum who thinks China controls the US.  Holy fucking shit you really are a special kind of retard.

Who owns our debt?  Who makes most of our stuff and almost all TECH stuff?   Who has a huge market U.S. companies want to sell to?  Who has Trillions to buy politicians?  Why are pro sports leagues kissing their ass? 

Who's a sock puppet?   ::)
 
Title: Re: Chinese Defector: COVID INTENTIONALLY Released
Post by: Chad Redford on September 26, 2021, 09:23:17 PM
Who owns our debt?  Who makes most of our stuff and almost all TECH stuff?   Who has a huge market U.S. companies want to sell to?  Who has Trillions to buy politicians?  Why are pro sports leagues kissing their ass? 

Who's a sock puppet?   ::)
 

Oh yeah they sell stuff to the US and own a small portion of our debt.  Is that all the "evidence" you got?  If this was a criminal case that shit would've been thrown out before it even made it to the prosecutors. 

And there's far more pro sports league that kisses the ass of BLM.  The fuck is your point?