PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Jaybird180 on November 22, 2021, 02:31:53 PM
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https://www.axios.com/covid-vaccine-mandate-marines-886d63ca-03d4-4195-accc-d5f74af64bce.html
For what it's worth, the Marines have maintained an Active Duty force of approximately 43-46,000 for as long as I can remember, so 10k being separated is nearly a quarter of the force. I cannot see how the leadership can get themselves out of this corner without taking one on the chin. You can't quickly replace the intellectual capital, manpower or experience. We "learned" that lesson post Vietnam.
Meanwhile, China, N Korea, Russia are looking at this and laughing.
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Way more than 40,000ish. Was around 180,00 when I came in 1997. Think it was a bit over 200,000 at the height of Iraq and Afghanistan.
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I might be thinking of something else with the 40k number. My bad.
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I might be thinking of something else with the 40k number. My bad.
Maybe total number of infantry? That may make more sense.
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Maybe total number of infantry? That may make more sense.
I thought every Marine was infantry?
What I know, I'm just a taxi driver...
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https://www.axios.com/covid-vaccine-mandate-marines-886d63ca-03d4-4195-accc-d5f74af64bce.html
For what it's worth, the Marines have maintained an Active Duty force of approximately 43-46,000 for as long as I can remember, so 10k being separated is nearly a quarter of the force. I cannot see how the leadership can get themselves out of this corner without taking one on the chin. You can't quickly replace the intellectual capital, manpower or experience. We "learned" that lesson post Vietnam.
Meanwhile, China, N Korea, Russia are looking at this and laughing.
6% unvaxed out of 45,000 Marines is 2,700 Marines, but otherwise I get your point. This is madness.
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The military is a key component of protecting this country. The fact that you would separate any of them over this thing is beyond ludicrous, unless you want put us at a big disadvantage.
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Seriously. What are they thinking? Biden is the CIC. I think that’s the most frightening thought I’ve ever had.
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Seriously. What are they thinking? Biden is the CIC. I think that’s the most frightening thought I’ve ever had.
They are thinking they are right on track with the plan. How's your Mandarin?
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Think about it.
China wants to expand. First, the “reunification” of Taiwan. Next, they want the South China Sea basin.
Russia wants to begin expanding again. Look at the border of the Ukraine.
What’s kept this from happening before? A strong US military.
We’re being neutered to stay out of the way.
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The senile imposter, faux President fuckwad is china’s bitch.
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I thought every Marine was infantry?
What I know, I'm just a taxi driver...
They say that every Marine is a rifleman. And true to a point.
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I thought every Marine was infantry?
What I know, I'm just a taxi driver...
Navy?
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Navy?
Yes. Although, on submarines, we didn’t really Uber Marines around.
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Yes. Although, on submarines, we didn’t really Uber Marines around.
Unless you were going to Ice Station Zebra.
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Unless you were going to Ice Station Zebra.
Love that movie!
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Unless you were going to Ice Station Zebra.
And they were also going there. BTW, a favorite in crews mess. After watching it, jokes went around for days.
Still, the Navy is always happy to give Marines a ride. I always remember that in desert storm, after dropping them off, the navy was sitting off the coast in the AC.
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Is anyone else really scared for our country? We've fallen behind in weaponry, we're cleansing the military, we're purposely sky rocketing the price of gasoline as well as many other goods, working hard to get workers fired from their jobs, openly pushing for a lawless society. The end result cannot be good.
We should be glad for the 2A or we would be like Austria or Australia right now.
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Is anyone else really scared for our country? We've fallen behind in weaponry, we're cleansing the military, we're purposely sky rocketing the price of gasoline as well as many other goods, working hard to get workers fired from their jobs, openly pushing for a lawless society. The end result cannot be good.
We should be glad for the 2A or we would be like Austria or Australia right now.
The blessing in disguise might be that all this catastrophe might cause the Democrats to be thrown out in the midterms and 2024. Of course that requires elections be reasonably fair. And don’t underestimate the ability of the Republicans to fail to do anything once in power, like they failed to fix Obamacare when they had the chance. We really need someone like Trump, who is not beholden to donors, who doesn’t give a fuck what the media says, and just gets stuff done.
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The blessing in disguise might be that all this catastrophe might cause the Democrats to be thrown out in the midterms and 2024. Of course that requires elections be reasonably fair. And don’t underestimate the ability of the Republicans to fail to do anything once in power, like they failed to fix Obamacare when they had the chance. We really need someone like Trump, who is not beholden to donors, who doesn’t give a fuck what the media says, and just gets stuff done.
At this pace we won't make 2024. And the republicans are being smug about the midterms, but we've yet to see any meaningful election reform, especially in the areas that the progressives cheated in.
Virginia was an outlier, as the DC's got overwhelmed in their heavy blue counties and couldn't manufacture enough 3am votes to overcome the republican. NJ wasn't as overwhelmed, hence they succeeded there except in elections where they thought they were bulletproof.
Proceed with caution.
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At this pace we won't make 2024. And the republicans are being smug about the midterms, but we've yet to see any meaningful election reform, especially in the areas that the progressives cheated in.
Virginia was an outlier, as the DC's got overwhelmed in their heavy blue counties and couldn't manufacture enough 3am votes to overcome the republican. NJ wasn't as overwhelmed, hence they succeeded there except in elections where they thought they were bulletproof.
Proceed with caution.
Civil War and secession is still on the table.
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Civil War and secession is still on the table.
No civil war for the reasons I've posted before. Secession, yes.
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Love that movie!
Me too, even with all the flaws. Ernie Borgnine as a Russian? Lol!
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At this pace we won't make 2024. And the republicans are being smug about the midterms, but we've yet to see any meaningful election reform, especially in the areas that the progressives cheated in.
Virginia was an outlier, as the DC's got overwhelmed in their heavy blue counties and couldn't manufacture enough 3am votes to overcome the republican. NJ wasn't as overwhelmed, hence they succeeded there except in elections where they thought they were bulletproof.
Proceed with caution.
Another example: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/washington-secrets/2024-blowout-brewing-trump-45-biden-32
These people haven't figured out if the voting is rigged, the outcome is predetermined. All giddy about future prospects based upon bullshit polling while ignoring our terrible problem with election integrity.
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As I recall, It was the senile, imposter, faux president fuckwad who threatened to use nukes on us if a civil was did erupt.
Communists (democrats) gave his senile ass a pass on that threat, too.
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My biggest concern for our military is logistics. Too much of the equipment used is dependent on components that not only aren't produced in the US, but for which we no longer have expertise to produce. Trump signed an EO directing the supply branch to figure out the problem, but I'm sure it isn't a priority for the current admin, given the focus on making sure every transwoman has tampons and every transman has condoms.
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My biggest concern for our military is logistics. Too much of the equipment used is dependent on components that not only aren't produced in the US, but for which we no longer have expertise to produce. Trump signed an EO directing the supply branch to figure out the problem, but I'm sure it isn't a priority for the current admin, given the focus on making sure every transwoman has tampons and every transman has condoms.
I totally agree with this. It would take a very small, short, 2 page bill for Congress to require our military to buy American. Our politicians bought and paid for by the MIC won’t hear of it.
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I totally agree with this. It would take a very small, short, 2 page bill for Congress to require our military to buy American. Our politicians bought and paid for by the MIC won’t hear of it.
and Congress wouldn't bother to actually provide the funding needed to implement such a directive.
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Most of the things we produce for the T1 contractors are marked as ITAR items, which pretty much requires US sourcing.
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The US government has multitudes of IT divisions among it's various agencies, and their big concern is of course security of data.
Why, they are SO concerned about stopping data breaches that they buy almost all of their hardware, laptops (millions of them) and other equipment from CHINA.
Let that sink in for a moment.
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Civil War and secession is still on the table.
https://www.actionnewsnow.com/content/news/Oroville-City-Council-votes-to-declare-the-city-as-a-Constitutional-Republic-City-575705681.html
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/11/12/oklahoma-guard-goes-rogue-rejects-covid-vaccine-mandate-after-sudden-change-of-command/
In progress
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https://www.actionnewsnow.com/content/news/Oroville-City-Council-votes-to-declare-the-city-as-a-Constitutional-Republic-City-575705681.html
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2021/11/12/oklahoma-guard-goes-rogue-rejects-covid-vaccine-mandate-after-sudden-change-of-command/
In progress
Interesting. There is a lot of sentiment but can these acts have any more significance than symbolic? Are there teeth? If not how can we get teeth?
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Interesting. There is a lot of sentiment but can these acts have any more significance than symbolic? Are there teeth? If not how can we get teeth?
"As it says in Bible, God fights on side of heaviest artillery." -- Robert Heinlein, "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"
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"As it says in Bible, God fights on side of heaviest artillery." -- Robert Heinlein, "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"
if we really want to get into actual biblical stuff, traditionally, if anything, God hobbles his army so that victory is view as more miraculous rather than the accomplishment on men.
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"As it says in Bible, God fights on side of heaviest artillery." -- Robert Heinlein, "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"
Love that book.
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Love that book.
yup - I wish I could find more good sci fi (book and/or movies)
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Foundation on Apple TV is pretty good. If I have one complaint about it, other than being on Apple TV, it’s that the briefness of the storytelling on TV makes keeping track of the timing of the story difficult. If you have not read the books, the notion of the time “lost” during space travel is hard to catch onto.
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Foundation on Apple TV is pretty good. If I have one complaint about it, other than being on Apple TV, it’s that the briefness of the storytelling on TV makes keeping track of the timing of the story difficult. If you have not read the books, the notion of the time “lost” during space travel is hard to catch onto.
if you read the books, you might be, ahem, disappointed with the woke ka-rap.