PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on April 01, 2016, 09:03:57 AM
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/01/record-25741000-foreign-born-people-employed-u-s/
The US should follow the example already set by many countries, which is as long as a US citizen can perform the job it goes to that citizen before a visa is given for a foreigner to take it.
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/01/record-25741000-foreign-born-people-employed-u-s/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/01/record-25741000-foreign-born-people-employed-u-s/)
The US should follow the example already set by many countries, which is as long as a US citizen can perform the job it goes to that citizen before a visa is given for a foreigner to take it.
Which is, exactly, how US immigration works.
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/04/01/record-25741000-foreign-born-people-employed-u-s/
The US should follow the example already set by many countries, which is as long as a US citizen can perform the job it goes to that citizen before a visa is given for a foreigner to take it.
But but but employment reciprocity could cause wars....
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But but but employment reciprocity could cause wars....
Yea, right. :o
a couple of minths ago a friend of mine was given his termination notice, then told he would stay on long enough to train his replacement, an Indian fellow here on a visa. And if he refused to train him? Then his severance pay would be slashed.
And the Indian fellow was taking the job for much less than my friend was being paid.
Try to go to another country as a US citizen and try to get away with that, not going to happen.
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Yea, right. :o
a couple of minths ago a friend of mine was given his termination notice, then told he would stay on long enough to train his replacement, an Indian fellow here on a visa. And if he refused to train him? Then his severance pay would be slashed.
And the Indian fellow was taking the job for much less than my friend was being paid.
Try to go to another country as a US citizen and try to get away with that, not going to happen.
I was taking a jab at the people who thought Tom Clancy's "Executive Orders" Trade Reciprocity caused wars.
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I was taking a jab at the people who thought Tom Clancy's "Executive Orders" Trade Reciprocity caused wars.
In that thread, someone specifically brought up trade reciprocity, and it was Debt of Honor and The Bear and the Dragon where that policy started wars. Executive Orders was a bio-attack by Iran.
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Yea, right. :o
a couple of minths ago a friend of mine was given his termination notice, then told he would stay on long enough to train his replacement, an Indian fellow here on a visa. And if he refused to train him? Then his severance pay would be slashed.
And the Indian fellow was taking the job for much less than my friend was being paid.
Try to go to another country as a US citizen and try to get away with that, not going to happen.
Almost all visa employment categories have requirements for local labour certifications before a visa can be obtained for a foreigner.
For example, for me, they had to publish my job in local papers and online, and interview candidates that applied. Those people had to be unable to do my job in order to receive a labour certification for me to apply for residency. My skillset is rather unique, however, and while many people can do parts of my job, there are very few, and none in this area, who can do it all.
There are some exceptions:
Permanent Residency:
1) Family based visas. Most of these go to spouses or minor children of US Citizens, however there are also other categories, and those other categories are numerically capped on an annual basis. For example, to immigrate to the US as the brother or sister of a US Citizen takes a long time due to numerical caps. I believe it was within the last two years that the date they were granting visas to managed to make it out of the Reagan administration.
2) Extraordinary Ability: This one lists the Nobel Prize as one of the things that might qualify you for it. Not a lot of these out there, and the people they are given to are literally world class in their field.
3) Outstanding Researchers: Have to be working in R&D at a university or private organization. Also world class, but slightly looser standard.
4) Multinational Managers and Executives: You have to work outside the US for the same company in an executive or managerial capacity for at least 1 year before applying, and be coming to the US to work in the an executive or managerial capacity. The foreign presence of your company must remain in operation (ie. so you can't create a company deem thyself El Presidente, move to the US and shut down the foreign part)
5) National Interest Waivers...these are a pain in the backside, difficult to receive, and for some countries also numerically capped (due to those countries sending a lot of immigrants to the US).
6) Investor: Invest $1m in a business, employ a fixed number of existing US workers in the US. Certain designated areas with high unemployment permit you to invest only $500k instead.
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Didn't Disney do something similar, hired folks and made the current crop train them?
It won't stop until someone sues. Who the hell is going to sue Disney?
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Which is, exactly, how US immigration works.
Disney employees may have a differing opinion.
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In that thread, someone specifically brought up trade reciprocity, and it was Debt of Honor and The Bear and the Dragon where that policy started wars. Executive Orders was a bio-attack by Iran.
You were wrong then and you are still wrong about what caused the wars in each Novel.
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You were wrong then and you are still wrong about what caused the wars in each Novel.
No...I was not wrong then, nor am I now.
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Disney employees may have a differing opinion.
Exactly. Employers are using loopholes to import cheaper labor. As long as a citizen can do the job the government has no business giving out work visas.
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A company I worked for a few years ago had hired a Tunisian that was here on a temporary work visa. He was pretty good at his job, but not great. When his visa ran out, the company wanted to keep him on, so they re-wrote the job description to match this guy in a way that very few Americans could qualify. In fact, we couldn't find anyone that had good networking skills, good unix skills, lived within 2 miles of the facility (for quick on-site response time) AND could speak Tunisian (or whatever the hell language they speak over there).
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A company I worked for a few years ago had hired a Tunisian that was here on a temporary work visa. He was pretty good at his job, but not great. When his visa ran out, the company wanted to keep him on, so they re-wrote the job description to match this guy in a way that very few Americans could qualify. In fact, we couldn't find anyone that had good networking skills, good unix skills, lived within 2 miles of the facility (for quick on-site response time) AND could speak Tunisian (or whatever the hell language they speak over there).
Yep.
And they also run the ads in an obscure newspaper.
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Didn't Disney do something similar, hired folks and made the current crop train them?
It won't stop until someone sues. Who the hell is going to sue Disney?
IIRC, Disney abandoned that project because of serious, and immediate backlash.