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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on October 08, 2022, 09:52:20 AM

Title: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Rush on October 08, 2022, 09:52:20 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/new-paypal-policy-lets-company-pull-2500-from-users-accounts-if-they-promote-misinformation?seyid=25599

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New PayPal Policy Lets Company Pull $2,500 From Users’ Accounts If They Promote ‘Misinformation’
Ben Zeisloft
4-5 minutes

A new policy update from PayPal will permit the firm to sanction users who advance purported “misinformation” or present risks to user “wellbeing.”

The financial services company, which has repeatedly deplatformed organizations and individual commentators for their political views, will expand its “existing list of prohibited activities” on November 3. Among the changes are prohibitions on “the sending, posting, or publication of any messages, content, or materials” that “promote misinformation” or “present a risk to user safety or wellbeing.” Users are also barred from “the promotion of hate, violence, racial or other forms of intolerance that is discriminatory.”

The company’s current acceptable use policy does not mention such activities. The Daily Wire reached out to PayPal for definitions of the added terms, although no response was received in time for publication.

The policy applies to actions taken using PayPal’s platform.

Deliberations will be made at the “sole discretion” of PayPal and may subject the user to “damages” — including the removal of $2,500 “debited directly from your PayPal account.” The company’s user agreement contains a provision in which account holders acknowledge that the figure is “presently a reasonable minimum estimate of PayPal’s actual damages” due to the administrative cost of tracking violations and damage to the company’s reputation.

“Under existing law, PayPal has the ability as a private company to implement this type of viewpoint-discriminatory policy,” Aaron Terr, a senior program officer at the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, explained to The Daily Wire. “Whatever motivation PayPal has for establishing these vague new categories of prohibited expression, they will almost certainly have a severe chilling effect on users’ speech. As is often the case with ill-defined and viewpoint-discriminatory speech codes, those with unpopular or minority viewpoints will likely bear the brunt of these restrictions.”

The move comes days after PayPal canceled three accounts linked to Toby Young, a commentator who runs a nonprofit called Free Speech Union. The organization has defended clients such as actor and comedian Russell Brand, who recently moved his show from YouTube to Rumble in reaction to censorship from the former platform.

Roughly one-third of Free Speech Union members rely upon PayPal to process their membership dues — although the company gave no explanation to Young for the suspension beyond mentioning a breach of the acceptable use policy. PayPal later restored the accounts after receiving criticism from lawmakers and apologized to Young for “any inconvenience caused,” according to a report from The Telegraph.

Platforms such as Amazon, Twitter, and Facebook have formerly censored conservatives and others who subscribe to heterodox positions on controversial social issues, including transgenderism and homosexuality. GoFundMe seized millions in funds raised for trucker protests in Canada earlier this year, while Google recently began suppressing search results for crisis pregnancy centers.

“These kinds of policies are unwise, threaten free speech, and invite legal risk,” Jeremy Tedesco, vice president of corporate engagement at Alliance Defending Freedom, told The Daily Wire. “When companies apply policies to restrict the religious speech of their customers, they could run afoul of prohibitions on religious discrimination that exist in many state and federal laws.”

PayPal has also sanctioned Gays Against Groomers, a group that opposes the sexualization of children, as well as evolutionary biologist Colin Wright and journalist Ian Miles Cheong. The company featured a rainbow-colored banner on its social media platforms during the month of June affirming that the platform is “open for all” — and PayPal U.K. still sports the banner.

“Whatever PayPal’s intentions may be, censorship and chilling free speech is precisely the effect of these kinds of vaguely worded policies,” Tedesco added. “We’ve seen social media companies use similar policies to stifle free speech on their platforms. We can expect a similar outcome with PayPal.”

Editor’s Note: This article has been updated to clarify actions to which the updated policy appears to apply
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Lucifer on October 08, 2022, 10:13:35 AM
Big Tech has become the fourth estate.  Government can’t violate your rights?  No problem, they’ll just farm it out to private enterprise as they do their spying. 

BTW, this fits the definition of fascism.   So who are the real fascist?
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Number7 on October 08, 2022, 12:38:00 PM
Flatly illegal.
Once they start stealing they’ll be in court and it will go away.
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on October 08, 2022, 12:43:48 PM
We need to add "political orientation" to the EEOC and FTC non-discrimination rules.
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Number7 on October 08, 2022, 01:36:03 PM
Since when did fucking liberals EVER care about inconvenient laws?
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 08, 2022, 03:31:37 PM
It looks like Paypal has already pulled the policy change document,
This is the location of the policy changes:
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full (https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full)

"Amendments to the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy
Effective November 3, 2022:

We are expanding the existing list of prohibited activities to include the sending, posting, or publication of messages, content, or materials that meet certain criteria.
Review the updated PayPal Acceptable Use Policy (https://www.paypalobjects.com/marketing/ua/pdf/US/en/acceptableuse-full-110322.pdf).


The last link now points to a blank PDF page.


Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 08, 2022, 03:36:50 PM
1984 won’t be like
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 08, 2022, 03:40:50 PM
Article on the backlash:

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/new-paypal-policy-permits-company-to-fine-users-2500-for-misinformation/ (https://www.nationalreview.com/news/new-paypal-policy-permits-company-to-fine-users-2500-for-misinformation/)

Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Anthony on October 09, 2022, 05:07:18 PM
I'm making more ammo in my basement.  What are you guys doing?
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Rush on October 09, 2022, 06:06:25 PM
It looks like Paypal has already pulled the policy change document,
This is the location of the policy changes:
https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full (https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full)

"Amendments to the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy
Effective November 3, 2022:

We are expanding the existing list of prohibited activities to include the sending, posting, or publication of messages, content, or materials that meet certain criteria.
Review the updated PayPal Acceptable Use Policy (https://www.paypalobjects.com/marketing/ua/pdf/US/en/acceptableuse-full-110322.pdf).


The last link now points to a blank PDF page.

Here ya go:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220927223312/https://www.paypalobjects.com/marketing/ua/pdf/US/en/acceptableuse-full-110322.pdf
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 09, 2022, 07:26:18 PM
Here ya go:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220927223312/https://www.paypalobjects.com/marketing/ua/pdf/US/en/acceptableuse-full-110322.pdf

That cuts off about half-way through the first page - at least when I view it.
It is a 7 page document and the "misinformation" clause appears on page 2. So I searched for the file name of the document and by gum I found Paypal merely moved it to here:
https://www.paypalobjects.com/marketing/ua/pdf/AU/en/acceptableuse-full-110322.pdf (https://www.paypalobjects.com/marketing/ua/pdf/AU/en/acceptableuse-full-110322.pdf)

This is the offending paragraph:

"You may not use PayPal's services for activities that:
[...]
5. involve the sending, posting or publication of any messages, content or materials
that, in PayPal’s sole discretion, (a) are harmful, obscene, harassing or objectionable, (b) depict or appear to depict nudity, sexual or other intimate activities, (c) depict or promote illegal drug use, (d) depict or promote violence,  criminal activity, cruelty or self-harm (e) depict, promote or incite hatred or discrimination of protected groups or of individuals or groups based on protected characteristics (e.g. race, religion, gender or gender identity, sexual orientation etc.) (f) presents a risk to consumer safety or (financial) wellbeing, (g) are fraudulent, promote misinformation or are unlawful, (h) infringes the intellectual property rights or other proprietary rights of any party or (i) are otherwise unfit for publication."

I had intended to highlight "misinformation" but just too many other things worth highlighting. Sellers of artwork like Venus de Milo hardest hit. And horror and war films. And so on....
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Rush on October 10, 2022, 04:31:06 AM
That cuts off about half-way through the first page - at least when I view it.
It is a 7 page document and the "misinformation" clause appears on page 2. So I searched for the file name of the document and by gum I found Paypal merely moved it to here:
https://www.paypalobjects.com/marketing/ua/pdf/AU/en/acceptableuse-full-110322.pdf (https://www.paypalobjects.com/marketing/ua/pdf/AU/en/acceptableuse-full-110322.pdf)

This is the offending paragraph:

"You may not use PayPal's services for activities that:
[...]
5. involve the sending, posting or publication of any messages, content or materials
that, in PayPal’s sole discretion, (a) are harmful, obscene, harassing or objectionable, (b) depict or appear to depict nudity, sexual or other intimate activities, (c) depict or promote illegal drug use, (d) depict or promote violence,  criminal activity, cruelty or self-harm (e) depict, promote or incite hatred or discrimination of protected groups or of individuals or groups based on protected characteristics (e.g. race, religion, gender or gender identity, sexual orientation etc.) (f) presents a risk to consumer safety or (financial) wellbeing, (g) are fraudulent, promote misinformation or are unlawful, (h) infringes the intellectual property rights or other proprietary rights of any party or (i) are otherwise unfit for publication."

I had intended to highlight "misinformation" but just too many other things worth highlighting. Sellers of artwork like Venus de Milo hardest hit. And horror and war films. And so on....

My link cuts off halfway through the first page because it is a screenshot on an archive site, specifically for the purpose of memorializing evidence after it’s scrubbed off the rest of the internet.  Note the first paragraph that mentions the $2,500 “liquidated damages” that PayPal will debit from your account if you engage in wrong speak in their sole opinion. That’s the offending paragraph.


EDIT:  NO NO NO NO.  That link had all 7 pages!  It was another archive link that only had half the first page, the one I posted had the whole thing  yesterday.  I went to my desktop with Windows and the page was still open, and I was able to download it! 

EDIT AGAIN:  It still has all 7 pages.  But when I click it in Safari on my iPad it indeed only shows half of the first page.  Have you tried clicking on it in Windows?
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Lucifer on October 10, 2022, 04:34:53 AM
Who really needs PayPal?   What does PayPal do that other financial sites can't do?
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Rush on October 10, 2022, 04:45:24 AM
Who really needs PayPal?   What does PayPal do that other financial sites can't do?

Yesterday I spent the remaining $10 in my PayPal account and I will be closing it as soon as I get the item I ordered.
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Anthony on October 10, 2022, 04:54:51 AM
There's been a huge backlash with lots of people closing their accounts and I believe PayPal had to backtrack.
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Rush on October 10, 2022, 05:00:07 AM
There's been a huge backlash with lots of people closing their accounts and I believe PayPal had to backtrack.

They backtracked and lied.  They claimed the $2,500 punishment was not supposed to be in there in the first place.  That’s horse shit, do you believe that for one second?  They haven’t backtracked all the censoring; I guess they’ll enforce that with bans.  They’ll just destroy themselves like Facebook and YouTube.
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Anthony on October 10, 2022, 07:16:42 AM
They backtracked and lied.  They claimed the $2,500 punishment was not supposed to be in there in the first place.  That’s horse shit, do you believe that for one second?  They haven’t backtracked all the censoring; I guess they’ll enforce that with bans.  They’ll just destroy themselves like Facebook and YouTube.

Of course they lied. They always do. These Fascists are liars and hypocrites like all leftists.
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: Rush on October 11, 2022, 11:04:09 AM
https://babylonbee.com/news/paypal-to-automatically-pull-2500-in-reparations-from-all-white-peoples-accounts
Title: Re: Paypal now full censorship
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on October 11, 2022, 11:05:47 AM
https://babylonbee.com/news/paypal-to-automatically-pull-2500-in-reparations-from-all-white-peoples-accounts

oh crap.... don't give them any ideas.


reminds of the old clinton simplified tax forms.

Line 1:  How much did you get paid    ___________

Line 2:  Send it in.