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Title: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Number7 on February 18, 2023, 06:34:20 AM
He's still got it! Trump would hammer Biden OR Harris if he was up for election against either of them in 2024

Donald Trump would beat Joe Biden and Kamala Harris in 2024, according to a new poll released on Friday.

Trump, who announced his candidacy in November, would win 46 percent of the vote, while Biden would gain 41 percent, the survey showed.

The former president would perform even better against Harris, winning 49 percent of support compared to Harris's 39 percent.


Kamala Harris would also lose to Trump, the new poll showed


Trump, 76, also defeated other Republican rivals in the poll.


Only Nikki Haley has so far declared her intention to challenge him, but in an eight-way race, Trump beats them all.

He won 37 percent of support, with 19 percent backing the Florida governor Ron DeSantis - who is yet to enter the race, but widely expected to do so in the spring.

Haley would win seven percent, making her third in the list - a rise in the ranks, thanks to a campaign launch which has been considered relatively successful.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 18, 2023, 07:14:03 AM
Is that before or after you account for the cheating?
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Bob Noel on February 18, 2023, 07:15:16 AM
since when are polls accurate or reasonable predictors?
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Number7 on February 18, 2023, 07:29:46 AM
since when are polls accurate or reasonable predictors?


The never Trump pussies are constantly quoting polls so it must be an ok measuring stick.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Lucifer on February 18, 2023, 07:29:59 AM
This far out polls will be all over the place.   Even for the few (very few) reliable honest pollsters, their work will have variables.

Unfortunately in the past couple of decades, polls have become propaganda tools in order to sway opinion, or even discourage voting.

For instance, look at Nikki Haley's announcement to run.   It was a dud.   As her and others announce watch their events.  If they are very small venues and are having trouble getting attendance, this is the real indicator of how well they are doing.

This far out, it's hard to say who will end up as the nominee.  The field will become crowded in the primaries.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Lucifer on February 18, 2023, 07:34:08 AM


The never Trump pussies are constantly quoting polls so it must be an ok measuring stick.

  2015 and 2016, we were bombarded with polls saying DJT had zero chance against the Hag.  Even the fat Fucktard Canadian on this board was carrying on like an idiot about polls.

  Polls are a double edged sword, and in our cancel culture society and censorship media, look at the other indicators to see if the polling is accurate.

  But polling is meaningless as long as the communist control the ballots.  Just saying.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Rush on February 18, 2023, 07:49:32 AM
  2015 and 2016, we were bombarded with polls saying DJT had zero chance against the Hag.  Even the fat Fucktard Canadian on this board was carrying on like an idiot about polls.

  Polls are a double edged sword, and in our cancel culture society and censorship media, look at the other indicators to see if the polling is accurate.

  But polling is meaningless as long as the communist control the ballots.  Just saying.

We have a Canadian here?
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Lucifer on February 18, 2023, 08:11:48 AM
We have a Canadian here?

  We had one.  He was a total belligerent asshole.

  He disappeared right after Trump won in 2016.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Bob Noel on February 18, 2023, 08:41:28 AM
We have a Canadian here?

If I recall correctly, he became a US citizen and was able to vote in 2016.

I can only imagine his disappointment that the SMOD wasn't an option on the ballot.

Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Rush on February 18, 2023, 09:08:40 AM
If I recall correctly, he became a US citizen and was able to vote in 2016.

I can only imagine his disappointment that the SMOD wasn't an option on the ballot.

What is SMOD?
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Lucifer on February 18, 2023, 09:11:15 AM
What is SMOD?

  "Sweet Meteor of Death"
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Bob Noel on February 18, 2023, 09:12:18 AM
What is SMOD?

Sweet Meteor of Death

A lot of people were, ahem, disappointed in having the choose between clinton and Donald Trump
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Little Joe on February 18, 2023, 09:21:23 AM
I'll start by repeating that I am NOT a Never-Trump'er.  I am more of a "I wish he had a prayer, but I don't think he does" kind of guy.

But I will admit that it is still way too early to make hard predictions.  Anything can happen and a lot can change between now and the nomination and/or the election.  I would be thrilled if Trump winds up winning the election.  I'm just afraid that if he runs, any Democrat, except Kamala, could beat him.  And I wouldn't bet on that either.

If he does get then nod, I hope he doesn't choose a "yes" man or woman as VP.  I hope he chooses someone with a dynamic personality that has a good chance to win in 2028.

One reason I like DeSantis is because the Democrats are so scare of him.  At least THEY take him seriously, even if a lot of Rs don't. (yet).
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Little Joe on February 18, 2023, 09:22:53 AM
We have a Canadian here?
HAD.
I believe Lucifer is referring to JeffDG.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 18, 2023, 09:23:57 AM
Sweet Meteor of Death

A lot of people were, ahem, disappointed in having the choose between clinton and Donald Trump

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Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Rush on February 18, 2023, 09:29:00 AM
Oh, JeffDG.  I missed that he was from Canadia.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Rush on February 18, 2023, 09:37:17 AM
I'll start by repeating that I am NOT a Never-Trump'er.  I am more of a "I wish he had a prayer, but I don't think he does" kind of guy.

But I will admit that it is still way too early to make hard predictions.  Anything can happen and a lot can change between now and the nomination and/or the election.  I would be thrilled if Trump winds up winning the election.  I'm just afraid that if he runs, any Democrat, except Kamala, could beat him.  And I wouldn't bet on that either.

If he does get then nod, I hope he doesn't choose a "yes" man or woman as VP.  I hope he chooses someone with a dynamic personality that has a good chance to win in 2028.

One reason I like DeSantis is because the Democrats are so scare of him.  At least THEY take him seriously, even if a lot of Rs don't. (yet).

I just posted and deleted the post because I misread your sentence:

  I hope he doesn't choose a "yes" man or woman as VP.

I read it like:   I hope he doesn't choose (a "yes" man) or woman as VP.

When you meant:  I hope he doesn't choose a "yes" (man or woman) as VP.

Haha, I am an idiot.  I was wondering why you have a problem with Kari Lake for example. I need more coffee.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Little Joe on February 18, 2023, 10:42:12 AM
I just posted and deleted the post because I misread your sentence:

  I hope he doesn't choose a "yes" man or woman as VP.

I read it like:   I hope he doesn't choose (a "yes" man) or woman as VP.

When you meant:  I hope he doesn't choose a "yes" (man or woman) as VP.

Haha, I am an idiot.  I was wondering why you have a problem with Kari Lake for example. I need more coffee.
Sorry about my poor wording and grammar.  But you figured out what I meant.  Perhaps the lack of a comma helped.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Anthony on February 18, 2023, 12:07:05 PM
The open and now accepted cheating by the Democrats won't allow another Trump Presidency.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Lucifer on February 18, 2023, 12:34:05 PM
The open and now accepted cheating by the Democrats won't allow another Trump Presidency.

   The establishment and the UniParty will never ever again allow an outsider into the WH.   

   We are now living in a semi communist police state, and our elections (in some states) are merely "show elections" to give the appearance of a fair and free country.   

  Make no doubt, those inside the beltway are disgusted at the fly over country for interfering in their affairs, and their actions towards us are proof of that.

  The Rubicon has been crossed folks.  Enjoy your preview of communism.   Hopefully the free states will act and remove themselves from the tyranny of the leftist.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Rush on February 18, 2023, 12:41:06 PM
Sorry about my poor wording and grammar.  But you figured out what I meant.  Perhaps the lack of a comma helped.

The English language can do that, sentences can have two meanings.  It is especially common in journalism.  They have atrocious grammar.  You’re always seeing headlines like this:  “People protect themselves with guns who have CCW permits.”   No, it’s not the guns that have permits.  That one is easy to figure out. But I’ve seen some like this:

“Relative of man killed by criminal who was honored at a ceremony talks to reporters.”

Huh? Who was honored? The man with a relative? Or the criminal? Or was it the relative that was honored? It’s not clear. They do this ALL the time. Have journalists always been this bad?

Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: nddons on February 19, 2023, 07:27:34 AM
The English language can do that, sentences can have two meanings.  It is especially common in journalism.  They have atrocious grammar.  You’re always seeing headlines like this:  “People protect themselves with guns who have CCW permits.”   No, it’s not the guns that have permits.  That one is easy to figure out. But I’ve seen some like this:

“Relative of man killed by criminal who was honored at a ceremony talks to reporters.”

Huh? Who was honored? The man with a relative? Or the criminal? Or was it the relative that was honored? It’s not clear. They do this ALL the time. Have journalists always been this bad?
Except for our Becky, editors seem to have died off and never repopulated. They simply don’t exist anymore based on what I read, even from
Major newspaper and media outlets.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Username on February 19, 2023, 08:03:02 AM
The open and now accepted cheating by the Democrats won't allow another Trump Presidency.
And while there may be a tacit agreement that cheating is wrong, "in this case" it's justified  because it's Trump.  There will be cheating.  Out in the open, obvious, and not even trying to hide it cheating.  And everyone pointing it out will be pounded as conspiracy theorists even though it's going on with a wink and a nod.  They won't even try to hide it.  Because it's Trump.  We're doomed.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Lucifer on February 19, 2023, 08:27:43 AM
They really haven't tried to hide it, because they (communist) believe the majority accept their techniques "to protect our democracy".

Then they have their propaganda arm (MSM and Big Tech) to smear, slander and censor anyone who states the obvious. 

While free citizens are cheering Twitter for exposing the censorship of the government, remember there is still Facebook, META, Instagram, Google, Youtube and on and on that are still controlled and directed by the communist on their content.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Rush on February 19, 2023, 08:40:35 AM
Except for our Becky, editors seem to have died off and never repopulated. They simply don’t exist anymore based on what I read, even from
Major newspaper and media outlets.

It’s ATROCIOUS.  The amount of typos, misspellings, and “autocorrect” nonsensical crap in mainstream outlets that are supposedly professionals is absolutely inexcusable.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Anthony on February 19, 2023, 09:10:48 AM
   The establishment and the UniParty will never ever again allow an outsider into the WH.   

   We are now living in a semi communist police state, and our elections (in some states) are merely "show elections" to give the appearance of a fair and free country.   

  Make no doubt, those inside the beltway are disgusted at the fly over country for interfering in their affairs, and their actions towards us are proof of that.

  The Rubicon has been crossed folks.  Enjoy your preview of communism.   Hopefully the free states will act and remove themselves from the tyranny of the leftist.

This is why I think secession is the ONLY answer, which means civil war as the controlling elite will not tolerate that. It would have to be actual war with, bloodshed, strife and misery for many. We are too comfortable as a populace to do that.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Username on February 19, 2023, 09:13:25 AM
This is why I think secession is the ONLY answer, which means civil war as the controlling elite will not tolerate that. It would have to be actual war with, bloodshed, strife and misery for many. We are too comfortable as a populace to do that.
Unfortunately unless you're of the preferred race or sexual orientation even any THOUGHT of violence will result in prison terms of undertermined duration.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Lucifer on February 19, 2023, 09:26:53 AM
This is why I think secession is the ONLY answer, which means civil war as the controlling elite will not tolerate that. It would have to be actual war with, bloodshed, strife and misery for many. We are too comfortable as a populace to do that.

  I don't see a war.  I do see things such as denial of service attacks and infrastructure attacks, etc.

  Look at the demographics of the free states and the blue shitholes.    The free states are organized, have resources and are financially viable.   The blue shitholes are run by idiots, leeches on the government with few resources and a populace who can't figure out which bathroom to use.

 
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Little Joe on February 19, 2023, 11:00:48 AM
This is why I think secession is the ONLY answer, which means civil war as the controlling elite will not tolerate that. It would have to be actual war with, bloodshed, strife and misery for many. We are too comfortable as a populace to do that.
I think there is a better answer.  If you don't like where you live, MOVE.  IT's easier than civil war too.
If all the conservatives in the Blue states moved to a Red state, the Blue states would lose power and the Red states would gain.
And there are many more Red states than Blue states.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Little Joe on February 19, 2023, 11:04:35 AM
I think there is a better answer.  If you don't like where you live, MOVE.  IT's easier than civil war too.
If all the conservatives in the Blue states moved to a Red state, the Blue states would lose power and the Red states would gain.
And there are many more Red states than Blue states.
Here is another answer I heard recently:
Make abortion legal, and free for poor people.
In fact, pay low income people to have an abortion if they also submit to free sterilization.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Lucifer on February 19, 2023, 11:06:44 AM
Here is another answer I heard recently:
Make abortion legal, and free for poor people.
In fact, pay low income people to have an abortion if they also submit to free sterilization.

 Abortion is decided on the state level, not federal.   Did you read the Dobbs decision?  ::)
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Little Joe on February 19, 2023, 11:18:28 AM
Abortion is decided on the state level, not federal.   Did you read the Dobbs decision?  ::)
What did I say that contradicted that (abortion being State Level, as it should be)?
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Lucifer on February 19, 2023, 11:26:20 AM
What did I say that contradicted that (abortion being State Level, as it should be)?

  You're bouncing all over the place.  I'm not even sure of the point you are trying to make.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Anthony on February 19, 2023, 11:27:01 AM
I think there is a better answer.  If you don't like where you live, MOVE.  IT's easier than civil war too.
If all the conservatives in the Blue states moved to a Red state, the Blue states would lose power and the Red states would gain.
And there are many more Red states than Blue states.

The Feds are making it so EVERY state will suck, so that's out. I wish it were that easy. Oh, I am moving to either WY or SD in the next couple of years.  But how long can those kind of states hold out?
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Lucifer on February 19, 2023, 11:31:41 AM
The Feds are making it so EVERY state will suck, so that's out. I wish it were that easy. Oh, I am moving to either WY or SD in the next couple of years.  But how long can those kind of states hold out?

  Exactly why FJB is flooding the country with illegals.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Little Joe on February 19, 2023, 11:36:50 AM
The Feds are making it so EVERY state will suck, so that's out. I wish it were that easy. Oh, I am moving to either WY or SD in the next couple of years.  But how long can those kind of states hold out?
If conservatives leave blue states for red states, the blue states lose representation and the red states gain.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Little Joe on February 19, 2023, 11:37:51 AM
  You're bouncing all over the place.  I'm not even sure of the point you are trying to make.
Good answer for when you don't have an answer.
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Lucifer on February 19, 2023, 01:27:40 PM
Good answer for when you don't have an answer.

Do you have an ADD?  Why is it so difficult for you to stay on topic, or post anything that actually relates to the conversation?

I thought we were discussing state rights?  Then you go off on abortion?  WTF?
Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Little Joe on February 19, 2023, 02:47:22 PM
Do you have an ADD?  Why is it so difficult for you to stay on topic, or post anything that actually relates to the conversation?

I thought we were discussing state rights?  Then you go off on abortion?  WTF?
You are the one that can't keep up and you are saying I have ADD?

Anthony said the only answer is secession.  I replied with two alternatives.
You can't keep two thoughts straight in your head and you say I am Low Information?

Title: Re: Never Trumpers Won't Like This
Post by: Lucifer on February 19, 2023, 02:54:22 PM
You are the one that can't keep up and you are saying I have ADD?

Anthony said the only answer is secession.  I replied with two alternatives.
You can't keep two thoughts straight in your head and you say I am Low Information?

We we talking states rights and secession.  You came up with some loopy crap about abortion. 

You really suck at this.