PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on February 26, 2023, 11:52:51 AM
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As the useless set continue to pretend that vaccines are safe and effective, and liberals blather their unending bullshit demanding that we all agree with their lies, study after study proves it was all lies.
Now people are beginning to suggest that there always was sinister - population reduction - goal to both the chinese virus and the exaggerated demand that people submit their future health to the vaccine scammers and government lying assholes.
https://offthepress.com/92-of-2022-covid-deaths-were-fully-vaccinated-uk-study/
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As the useless set continue to pretend that vaccines are safe and effective, and liberals blather their unending bullshit demanding that we all agree with their lies, study after study proves it was all lies.
Now people are beginning to suggest that there always was sinister - population reduction - goal to both the chinese virus and the exaggerated demand that people submit their future health to the vaccine scammers and government lying assholes.
https://offthepress.com/92-of-2022-covid-deaths-were-fully-vaccinated-uk-study/
The original claim is in this article:
https://expose-news.com/2023/02/22/distracted-nicola-uk-gov-reveal-vaccinated-92percent-covid-deathss/ (https://expose-news.com/2023/02/22/distracted-nicola-uk-gov-reveal-vaccinated-92percent-covid-deathss/)
It should be titled "How to lie when the figures don't support your thesis, in one easy lesson."
The lesson being: do not normalize your data by dividing by the size of the groups you are comparing.
They at least include a link to the figures they use, which is this spreadsheet/study:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween1april2021and31december2022/referencetable.xlsx (https://www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland/deathsoccurringbetween1april2021and31december2022/referencetable.xlsx)
They then post a snippet of the columns from Table 1 for October 2022 - deliberately excluding the column labeled "Age-standardised mortality rate / 100,000 person-years" which shows a normalized rate. The death rate due to Covid for non-vaccinated was 118.0 deaths/100,000 person years while it is 56.8 deaths/100,000 person years for vaccinated people during that month. But the author(s) prefer to highlight the statistically meaningless 125 non-vaccinated Covid deaths compared to the 2281 Covid deaths for that month and ignore the size of each group.
They present a lot of graphs using non-normalized data. Basic statistics either eludes them or they are themselves deliberately misleading because they have an agenda. Even though I would agree with their agenda I think their methods are so transparent that they undermine the goal. Be honest, for fuck's sake. Don't keep handing authoritarians ammunition.
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It’s cute how Jim always panders the left wing agenda and calls himself libertarian
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It’s cute how Jim always panders the left wing agenda and calls himself libertarian
I agree with your statement "liberals blather their unending bullshit demanding that we all agree with their lies" but not the specifics in this case.
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It’s cute how Jim always panders the left wing agenda and calls himself libertarian
So what should Jim do when someone on the right makes a ridiculous statement?
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So what should Jim do when someone on the right makes a ridiculous statement?
We are in the midst of a pandemic of the vaccinated and the left wants us to by their convenient billshit studies.
No Sale.
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We are in the midst of a pandemic of the vaccinated and the left wants us to by their convenient bills is studies.
Yeah, that makes sense. ???
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So what should Jim do when someone on the right makes a ridiculous statement?
Please compare the magnitude and frequency in today's society of outlandish right leaning rhetoric, behavior and actions to the Leftists. Then try to reconcile in your mind the difference. ::)
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Please compare the magnitude and frequency in today's society of outlandish right leaning rhetoric, behavior and actions to the Leftists. Then try to reconcile in your mind the difference. ::)
Without saying anything about whether that data is right or wrong (no time to dig into it - I do have a job you know) I am noticing an acceleration in the polarization between left and right on many issues not only in opinions and rhetoric but in law making. I find this alarming.
For example, we have laws requiring teachers to address students by their preferred pronouns. As a reaction, there are now laws proposed to require teachers to use the pronoun of the student’s birth gender. The latter is a reaction to the former. The latter would not have been necessary before the woke mob pushed the matter and created 30% “trans” children.
In the before times, say when I was in school, there was less than one in a hundred trans, at least detectable, and if they, being TRUE trans, wanted to be called “she”, I had no problem with that and I am opposed to government forcing me to use particular language as I would be the reverse. Authoritarian policing of my language is wrong either way.
But here we are, both sides scrambling to tighten their grip on us legally when it’s the job of society’s conventions. Our societal conventions are breaking down and it’s not good. But also not good is allowing government to step in with ever more draconian attempts to control individuals. That never ends well.
Sorry for getting off the subject.