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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on July 04, 2023, 04:38:48 PM
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Ramaswamy Into double digits in latest poll.
In yet Another blow to the faultering DeSantis campaign, challenger Vivek Ramaswamy is surging into territory that will have him on the stage whe the Republican debated begin.
https://www.breitbart.com/2024-election/2023/07/04/poll-vivek-ramaswamy-breaks-into-double-digits-in-republican-primary/
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Can only hope he gets that chance.
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I like what I know about him. I'm really interested in hearing him in the debates.
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It’s funny to see him ahead of mike pence.
Tells you what Americans think of pence.
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It’s funny to see him ahead of mike pence.
Tells you what Americans think of pence.
Maybe Pence should change his campaign slogan to Mike!
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It’s funny to see him ahead of mike pence.
Tells you what Americans think of pence.
At one time I used to like Mike Pence and Ted Cruz, but they are both Establishment Republican Uniparty guys.
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At one time I used to like Mike Pence and Ted Cruz, but they are both Establishment Republican Uniparty guys.
There was a time I liked GW Bush. We all evolve. Well, some of us do.
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There was a time I liked GW Bush. We all evolve. Well, some of us do.
There was a time I liked Trump, before he went off the deep end and became a liberal.
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There was a time I liked Trump, before he went off the deep end and became a liberal.
How is he a liberal?
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How is he a liberal?
Actually, he is not a liberal. He is only interested in himself. If that helps the rest of us that is fine, but first it has to help Trump.
Ron DeSantis IS a CONSERVATIVE. Ever since DeSantis became a viable threat to Trump, Trump started objecting to anything DeSantis was for. Rather than say he is a liberal, I should have said he has become the ultimate politician.
DeSantis is opposed to abortion so Trump is OK with abortion.
DeSantis is opposed to affirmative action, so Trump is OK with affirmative action.
If Trump gets the nomination and goes up against a liberal, Trump will again become Conservative and call the liberal childish names.
Is that really what you want from a President?
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Actually, he is not a liberal. He is only interested in himself. If that helps the rest of us that is fine, but first it has to help Trump.
You can make that statement about any politician, even Ron!
Ron DeSantis IS a CONSERVATIVE.
RDS is an establishment republican. His interest lies with the donor class and the UniParty.
If Trump gets the nomination and goes up against a liberal, Trump will again become Conservative and call the liberal childish names.
Is that really what you want from a President?
You seem obsessed with this. But you know, those Bush's were eloquent, polite, well spoken politicians, which seems what you want. Nevermind their policies were UniParty and undermined the American people while enriching the donor class.
Is that what you really want from a President?
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I'd far rather have a president that offends the weaker among us and goes all in to protect the citizens rather than the establishment, but then I'm not a whiner.
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Actually, he is not a liberal. He is only interested in himself. If that helps the rest of us that is fine, but first it has to help Trump.
Ron DeSantis IS a CONSERVATIVE. Ever since DeSantis became a viable threat to Trump, Trump started objecting to anything DeSantis was for. Rather than say he is a liberal, I should have said he has become the ultimate politician.
DeSantis is opposed to abortion so Trump is OK with abortion.
DeSantis is opposed to affirmative action, so Trump is OK with affirmative action.
If Trump gets the nomination and goes up against a liberal, Trump will again become Conservative and call the liberal childish names.
Is that really what you want from a President?
As long as he brings back low gas prices and keeps us out of war, yes.
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He is only interested in himself. If that helps the rest of us that is fine, but first it has to help Trump.
I am so damn tired of hearing that lame argument from never Trumpers. Go ahead -- name one instance where he put himself ahead of his country. You can't because there are none. He may well be the only president since Washington who saw his net worth decrease while in office, so just stop it.
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I am so damn tired of hearing that lame argument from never Trumpers. Go ahead -- name one instance where he put himself ahead of his country. You can't because there are none. He may well be the only president since Washington who saw his net worth decrease while in office, so just stop it.
Trump ballooned the national debt by $6.7 Trillion, and increase in 33% over the debt left by him by Obama.
He knew that the voting public love give-a-ways, and Covid gave him the great opportunity to enrich both individual voters as well as businesses, which helped his re-election campaign.
He borrowed from China to get re-elected, and put the burden of that debt on our kids.
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Congress is responsible for the debt
Look up the roles and responsibilities in the Constitution
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Trump ballooned the national debt by $6.7 Trillion, and increase in 33% over the debt left by him by Obama.
He knew that the voting public love give-a-ways, and Covid gave him the great opportunity to enrich both individual voters as well as businesses, which helped his re-election campaign.
He borrowed from China to get re-elected, and put the burden of that debt on our kids.
Hahahahahahaha….
You’re killing me.
Hahahahahahahaahaa…
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You can't actually believe that he sent out that money because he wanted to be re-elected? Please tell me that should have been in green font.
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Congress is responsible for the debt
Look up the roles and responsibilities in the Constitution
That is a lame and way overused denial of a President's power.
Nobody ever backed away from accusing Obama of increasing the debt, and nobody ever backed away from accusing Biden of doing it.
Of course though, the Democrats always say "Congress is responsible for the debt. Look up the roles and responsibilities in the Constitution." When there is a Democrat President.
Trump was doing so well on the economic front, but he caved when Covid happened.
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It is true that Trump, whether he controlled the budget or not, pushed for handouts and small business loans for us people because of Covid. His heart was in the right place but it was an unwise decision and did indeed contribute to inflation (however Biden continued the stimmy payments way too long and contributed much more.)
This is one reason I keep saying Trump is not a conservative, if you consider the metric of fiscal restraint, but a populist in the sense of siding with the little man when he sees we are in trouble. He saw the damage being done to the people by lockdowns, which after the first two weeks he opposed by the way, but he couldn’t prevent governors and mayors from these destructive lockdowns, and he was trying to ease the pain WE THE PEOPLE were in. The little people, not the rich.
He was unwise in this, because the stimulus checks didn’t make up for the loss of paychecks, and were not discriminatory in being given only to people who really needed them, but people like me got them, who didn’t lose any income at all in the lockdowns, and small business loans ended up with lots of fraud.
They were terrible ideas and did contribute to inflation but Trump pushed them because he saw people suffering and was trying to help. I don’t believe for second he was thinking he was buying votes! That’s ludicrous.
Trump isn’t perfect. If he were he’d have the economic sense of Thomas Sowell. But he is on our side against the tyranny of big government and big business and that’s good enough for me.
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Congress is responsible for the debt
Look up the roles and responsibilities in the Constitution
I think you need a refresher on how a bill becomes law:
https://youtu.be/Otbml6WIQPo
Presidents have this thing called a “Veto”. Article 1, section 7.
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That is a lame and way overused denial of a President's power.
Bull, complete BS.
Money doesn't get appropriated by the President. All spending originated in Congress. All of it. Every single penny.
Nobody ever backed away from accusing Obama of increasing the debt, and nobody ever backed away from accusing Biden of doing it.
show me one time where I blamed obama for the deficit. Just one.
show me one time where I blamed the clown currently occupying the whitehouse. Just one.
Of course though, the Democrats always say "Congress is responsible for the debt. Look up the roles and responsibilities in the Constitution." When there is a Democrat President.
are you seriously accusing me of being a democrat?
seriously.
are you challenging ol' POS for title of dumbest, most ignorant poster on POA?
Trump was doing so well on the economic front, but he caved when Covid happened.
President Trump definitely made mistakes in response to the covid panic.
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Hahahahahahaha….
You’re killing me.
Hahahahahahahaahaa…
Quiet. The adults are talking.
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I think you need a refresher on how a bill becomes law:
https://youtu.be/Otbml6WIQPo
Presidents have this thing called a “Veto”. Article 1, section 7.
oh, could you please explain it to me.
I'm just too stupid to understand that spending bills originate in Congress but the President has complete control over the deficit. The scum passing bills out of Congress have absolutely no responsibility for it. It's all on the President.
Never mind what happens with the President vetos a spending bill - always getting blamed for "shutting down the Government"
oh wait, that only happens when the President is a republican.
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Quiet. The adults are talking.
I hope Number7 will forgive me but I laughed.
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Bull, complete BS.
Money doesn't get appropriated by the President. All spending originated in Congress. All of it. Every single penny.
show me one time where I blamed obama for the deficit. Just one.
show me one time where I blamed the clown currently occupying the whitehouse. Just one.
are you seriously accusing me of being a democrat?
seriously.
are you challenging ol' POS for title of dumbest, most ignorant poster on POA?
President Trump definitely made mistakes in response to the covid panic.
Go, Bob!!!! All spot on. Oops, now Joe will be hurt. So be it.
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You can't actually believe that he sent out that money because he wanted to be re-elected? Please tell me that should have been in green font.
When Covid just got started in March 2020, the CARES Act provided for $1,200 of “Economic Impact Payments” of $1,200 per person and $500 per child for individuals with AGI <$75k, or <$150k if married, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY SUFFERED ANY ECONOMIC IMPACT.
The Tax Relief Act if 2020 gave another $600/person of Economic Impact Payments.
Those two Trump provisions paved the way for Biden to follow suit in March 2021 for $1,400/person payments.
Trump also signed the Paycheck Protection Program “loan” (giveaway) into law, as well as the Employee Retention Credit giveaway.
What else happened in 2020? Oh, that’s right. An election.
You can’t actually believe that Trump was just being altruistic with our taxpayer money, do you?
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Congress is responsible for the debt
Look up the roles and responsibilities in the Constitution
Correct, when did he ever veto any of it?
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Quiet. The adults are talking.
Not when you are speaking… dumbass.
Just try to act like an adult and see how it works for you.
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When Covid just got started in March 2020, the CARES Act provided for $1,200 of “Economic Impact Payments” of $1,200 per person and $500 per child for individuals with AGI <$75k, or <$150k if married, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY SUFFERED ANY ECONOMIC IMPACT.
The Tax Relief Act if 2020 gave another $600/person of Economic Impact Payments.
Those two Trump provisions paved the way for Biden to follow suit in March 2021 for $1,400/person payments.
Trump also signed the Paycheck Protection Program “loan” (giveaway) into law, as well as the Employee Retention Credit giveaway.
What else happened in 2020? Oh, that’s right. An election.
You can’t actually believe that Trump was just being altruistic with our taxpayer money, do you?
Trump didn’t have to buy votes and he knew it. He had the election in the bag by a landslide and WE ALL KNOW IT. Yes, he was being altruistic. I believe it never entered his head to bribe our votes, that’s what the commie left does. He knew we loved him and would re-elect him.
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It is true that Trump, whether he controlled the budget or not, pushed for handouts and small business loans for us people because of Covid. His heart was in the right place but it was an unwise decision and did indeed contribute to inflation (however Biden continued the stimmy payments way too long and contributed much more.)
This is one reason I keep saying Trump is not a conservative, if you consider the metric of fiscal restraint, but a populist in the sense of siding with the little man when he sees we are in trouble. He saw the damage being done to the people by lockdowns, which after the first two weeks he opposed by the way, but he couldn’t prevent governors and mayors from these destructive lockdowns, and he was trying to ease the pain WE THE PEOPLE were in. The little people, not the rich.
He was unwise in this, because the stimulus checks didn’t make up for the loss of paychecks, and were not discriminatory in being given only to people who really needed them, but people like me got them, who didn’t lose any income at all in the lockdowns, and small business loans ended up with lots of fraud.
They were terrible ideas and did contribute to inflation but Trump pushed them because he saw people suffering and was trying to help. I don’t believe for second he was thinking he was buying votes! That’s ludicrous.
Trump isn’t perfect. If he were he’d have the economic sense of Thomas Sowell. But he is on our side against the tyranny of big government and big business and that’s good enough for me.
A businessman knows where funds come from. Trump knew that he would be borrowing 100% of this money from China, and putting the obligation to pay it back on future generations.
PPP and ERC were not just for the little people.
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Trump ballooned the national debt by $6.7 Trillion, and increase in 33% over the debt left by him by Obama.
He knew that the voting public love give-a-ways, and Covid gave him the great opportunity to enrich both individual voters as well as businesses, which helped his re-election campaign.
He borrowed from China to get re-elected, and put the burden of that debt on our kids.
And what's Biden doing and just about every President before Trump? I fear we're past the point of any Congress or President being fiscally responsible because the American people want more and more. We care. Most don't. That doesn't make it right.
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oh, could you please explain it to me.
I'm just too stupid to understand that spending bills originate in Congress but the President has complete control over the deficit. The scum passing bills out of Congress have absolutely no responsibility for it. It's all on the President.
Never mind what happens with the President vetos a spending bill - always getting blamed for "shutting down the Government"
oh wait, that only happens when the President is a republican.
Trump only pulled out the veto pen 10 times during his presidency, and had zero pocket vetoes. He had one veto overridden by Congress.
Every spending bill only becomes law with his signature or with a veto override by 2/3rd majority of each house of Congress.
I’m not sure why you’re getting so hot, Bob. This is all factual. Nothing becomes law with congressional action alone. Nothing.
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Bull, complete BS.
Money doesn't get appropriated by the President. All spending originated in Congress. All of it. Every single penny.
show me one time where I blamed obama for the deficit. Just one.
show me one time where I blamed the clown currently occupying the whitehouse. Just one.
are you seriously accusing me of being a democrat?
seriously.
are you challenging ol' POS for title of dumbest, most ignorant poster on POA?
President Trump definitely made mistakes in response to the covid panic.
Damn Bob, I shouldn't post before coffee. Maybe you shouldn't post after (too much) coffee.
Are you denying that many people, even if not you specifically, blamed Democrat Presidents for spending policies that increased the deficit?
And you know God Damn well I didn't call you a Democrat. Are you trying to be like Anthony?
OH,and one more thing. I am contending for dumbest poster on Pilot Spin, not POA.
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OH,and one more thing. I am contending for dumbest poster on Pilot Spin, not POA.
Damn! I didn’t catch that.
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OH,and one more thing. I am contending for dumbest poster on Pilot Spin, not POA.
You must be a genius over at the pilot's place. ;)
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Damn Bob, I shouldn't post before coffee. Maybe you shouldn't post after (too much) coffee.
Are you denying that many people, even if not you specifically, blamed Democrat Presidents for spending policies that increased the deficit?
And you know God Damn well I didn't call you a Democrat. Are you trying to be like Anthony?
OH,and one more thing. I am contending for dumbest poster on Pilot Spin, not POA.
You're not a Democrat. Your worse. ;D