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Title: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 22, 2023, 04:56:05 AM
A friend posted this on FB and followed up with people not believing the science. Assuming this to be true, it does not explain the push on these kids in school to transition, unless, of course, they are being tested first. And if this is indeed the case, why is it done without consulting parents with any proof?
(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7209.0;attach=3733)

Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Rush on September 22, 2023, 05:41:07 AM
As far as I know all of that is true, however it is describing abnormal development. Nobody disputes that congenital intersex or sex ambiguity at birth exists.  It’s also true that trans brains have been shown to differ, but we don’t know why, it could very well be due to hormonal abnormalities during fetal development.

Yes, real trans exist. This does NOT mean it’s okay to railroad children into permanent interventions involving lifelong complications and sterility.  It also does not explain the recent explosion of alleged trans beyond all historical precedence, especially female to male (historically EXTREMELY rare) which just happens to correspond to the explosion of social media and the proliferation of trans propaganda therein, including suggestions that any body dysphoria at puberty is gender dysphoria, an absurd jump beyond all medical and scientific rationality.

It’s a cult.  It’s a fad.  It’s taken a rare but real diversion from the norm, and yes, XX-XY binary is the norm, and created an epidemic of collective mass delusion.

In normal human development there are two sexes, period. It was driven by two billion years of evolution. That there are abnormal mutations does not erase the basic blueprint.
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Anthony on September 22, 2023, 07:03:52 AM
A fad indeed. Children, that for whatever reason, don't "fit in" are using it as away to become accepted and normalized.  Yes, they've made it normal to be ABNORMAL.
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Rush on September 22, 2023, 07:19:16 AM
A fad indeed. Children, that for whatever reason, don't "fit in" are using it as away to become accepted and normalized.  Yes, they've made it normal to be ABNORMAL.

I guess kids have always done that but never surgically cutting off reproductive parts. In the 70s we wore bell bottoms and burned our bras to “fit in”, maybe smoked weed and protested the war. Not that I ever did any of that.
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 22, 2023, 07:33:03 AM
Why kids should not “choose” their gender.

https://gab.com/Gee/posts/111069759607710456
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Number7 on September 22, 2023, 07:56:04 AM
Why kids should not “choose” their gender.

https://gab.com/Gee/posts/111069759607710456

Hard leftist liberals are often deeply disturbed people and are obsessed with outsourcing their mental illness on everyone else so they don't have to feel left out.

Think about all the utter made up bullshit you have to pretend to believe to be a 'good' democrat.

1) EV's don't use energy derived from coal fired plants to charge their batteries and never pollute the environment.

2) there are at least 32 genders, and molesting young children is a healthy activity.

3) kwanza is a real thing.

4) ONLY Americans and Western european behavior causes global warming-cooling-coolwarming-snow-rain-wind-sleet-hail...

5) china, north korea and iran never pollute the environment.

6) you can not only choose, but change your gender.

7) trees, math, good grades in school, public parks, weather, and working hard are all racist.

8) all republicans want to push your grandmother off a cliff.

9) disagreeing with a black person is racist.

10) the constitution is racist.

11) there was an insurrection on January 6, 2020.

12) burning cities and killing people, while looting nikes and flat screen TV's is perfectly ok as long as it is done by  blm and antifa.

13)mentioning that activity as illegal is racist.

14) joe biden is not a traitor.

15) joe biden is not senile, corrupt, stupid, treasonous, and a pathological liar.

16) the same for nancy pelosi and chuck schumer.

17) saying you identify as a girl makes you one.

You can create an whole new lis of stupid things liberals believe, which makes them stupid and mentally deranged.
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: nddons on September 27, 2023, 08:55:25 AM

Yes, real trans exist.


But do they, really?  Physical (not mental) abnormalities at birth notwithstanding, if a woman has an addadicktome surgery, is she really a man?  And if a man has a takeadickoffme surgery, is he really a woman? 
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Username on September 27, 2023, 09:06:34 AM
But do they, really?  Physical (not mental) abnormalities at birth notwithstanding, if a woman has an addadicktome surgery, is she really a man?  And if a man has a takeadickoffme surgery, is he really a woman?
In very rare instances, yes.  There are mental abnormalities where someone may truly believe that they are "in the wrong body".  Just like there are abnormalities where someone thinks that they have someone else's leg and needs it removed.  Very rare, where someone truly believes with all their heart and soul that they are in the wrong sex body.  Brain chemistry gets messed up or internal wires get crossed.  It happens.  NOT what's going on these days where trans is the new goth or a way for parents to get the attention they crave.

It's a subtle difference.  Someone who has surgery to add body parts, that surgery does not determine gender.  That person is already  man / woman and the surgery brings the body in alignment with the brain.  Again, NOT what's happening now.  This is a very rare and for the most part a private matter.
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 27, 2023, 09:17:00 AM
look up the definition of "delusional"

Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Rush on September 27, 2023, 09:27:01 AM
But do they, really?  Physical (not mental) abnormalities at birth notwithstanding, if a woman has an addadicktome surgery, is she really a man?  And if a man has a takeadickoffme surgery, is he really a woman?

Yes, real trans exist, but they are real trans, not real “women” or “men”.  Caitlyn Jenner has made this clear, as well as others. Caitlyn acknowledges “she” is a biological male who chooses to live as an approximation of a woman but is not a real woman.  This is why she is one of the leading voices against allowing trans women (men) into women’s sports.

That she is so grounded in reality leads me to believe that she’s not mentally ill other than genuine gender dysphoria.
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Rush on September 27, 2023, 09:35:03 AM
In very rare instances, yes.  There are mental abnormalities where someone may truly believe that they are "in the wrong body".  Just like there are abnormalities where someone thinks that they have someone else's leg and needs it removed.  Very rare, where someone truly believes with all their heart and soul that they are in the wrong sex body.  Brain chemistry gets messed up or internal wires get crossed.  It happens.  NOT what's going on these days where trans is the new goth or a way for parents to get the attention they crave.

It's a subtle difference.  Someone who has surgery to add body parts, that surgery does not determine gender.  That person is already  man / woman and the surgery brings the body in alignment with the brain.  Again, NOT what's happening now.  This is a very rare and for the most part a private matter.

Agree completely. I wouldn’t believe there were real ones if I hadn’t known one up close and personal from childhood. This was LONG before the internet or any kind of access by children to any notion of transgenderism existing.  So it was not planted in his head by being a publicly discussed or promoted thing like it is today.  It arose in him very young, confused him, and he kept it secret til almost adulthood, when he confided in me.  My reaction was, “Oh, that makes complete sense.  You seem much more like my girlfriend than any kind of male.”  And he had from the start.
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Anthony on October 15, 2023, 03:23:59 AM
Just because a person genuinely "believes" or "feels" they are something doesn't make it so.
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Little Joe on October 15, 2023, 04:21:18 AM
Just because a person genuinely "believes" or "feels" they are something doesn't make it so.
Aw gee.  Do you mean I am not a 20 yr old 7ft tall black NBA star?
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Rush on October 15, 2023, 04:52:22 AM
Just because a person genuinely "believes" or "feels" they are something doesn't make it so.


Rational trans don’t claim that it does.
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Little Joe on October 15, 2023, 06:05:40 AM


Rational trans don’t claim that it does.
Isn't "rational trans" an oxymoron, sort of like jumbo shrimp or military intelligence?
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Rush on October 15, 2023, 06:35:33 AM
Isn't "rational trans" an oxymoron, sort of like jumbo shrimp or military intelligence?

Not at all. Rational trans understand reality.  They know they have the XX or the XY respectively and that that determines basic physiology. Therefore they understand, for example, that allowing trans “women” to compete in women’s sports is completely unfair.

The problem is those people aren’t highlighted by the media so you don’t hear from them very often. What is shoved in our faces all the time are the crazies, so we think all trans are completely off their rocker.  There are trans who say, “My gender dysphoria is a mental disorder.  I acknowledge that.  That doesn’t make it go away but it means I can deal with it understanding that my feelings of being the opposite gender do not change the fact that I am in reality my birth sex.”  That’s rational. I watched an interview of a female to male trans who said exactly that.  But you don’t see this person show up in your social media feed, you have to go search for it.

Media and social media echo chambers make it hard to see nuance.
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: Number7 on October 15, 2023, 08:12:52 AM
Aw gee.  Do you mean I am not a 20 yr old 7ft tall black NBA star?

You mean you’re not?
Title: Re: The xy Chromosone thing......
Post by: nddons on October 17, 2023, 12:43:07 PM
You mean you’re not?
I’d love to see a 7 footer in a Bonanza.