PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Little Joe on July 04, 2024, 12:55:18 PM
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Has there ever been a Cat 4 hurricane this early before?
I'm putting my hurricane survival kit together early.
I test ran the both portable generators. I love that little Honda.
I'm rotating the canned goods. Using the older ones and replacing with newer.
I got a 10% discount for buying a case of Bourbon and Scotch. Their policy is the case has to be all the same, but I asked and they had no problem mixing Scotch and Bourbon.
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Ever or just since records have been kept?
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Ever or just since records have been kept?
Well, if you can find documentation of one before records were kept that would be good, but I suppose I should have said:
"Has there ever been a Cat 4 hurricane on record this early before?" But even then, I would like to see a report of one more than 30 or more years ago.
There are records of hurricanes going back many hundreds of years. There are actually records of hurricanes going back 5,000 years although they are not very thorough.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Atlantic_hurricane_records
Looks like Beryl is the earliest Cat 4. But hurricane season starts 1 June (by convention I guess)
I haven't looked hard yet - I'd like to see a list of all Atlantic hurricanes, not just a summary of some...
edit: looks like people differentiate between hurricanes that make landfall and those that don't. Kind of hard to have records of hurricanes that didn't make landfall before we had weather satellites to see storms that stayed away from land (if you pardon the tortured English).
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Just in case anyone is wondering, my point in asking the question is that if there is a record (or records) of more powerful storms occurring earlier, that would cast aspersions on the whole Climate Change thing.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Audrey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Audrey)
Hurricane Audrey was a Category 4 when it struck the coast in June 1957.
Quick history of June hurricanes:
https://weather.com/safety/hurricane/news/2021-06-01-june-united-states-hurricane-landfalls-rare (https://weather.com/safety/hurricane/news/2021-06-01-june-united-states-hurricane-landfalls-rare)
The Wikipedia link says Audrey was Category 3, but the above article references this NOAA document that lists Audrey as Category 4:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/nws-nhc-6.pdf (https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/nws-nhc-6.pdf)
On the third hand in the NOAA list of all US hurricanes from 1851 they have Audrey as Category 3:
https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/All_U.S._Hurricanes.html (https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hurdat/All_U.S._Hurricanes.html)
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The article I mentioned above on June hurricanes linked to an article about a hurricane that struck the US in May 1863 that doesn't appear in NOAA's records:
https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/94/11/bams-d-12-00171.1.xml (https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/bams/94/11/bams-d-12-00171.1.xml)
Among the most unusual and unexpected hurricanes in United States history is the only hurricane to make landfall in the month of May.
But what I found most interesting is their Figure 4, "dates of first U.S. landfall". I can see no discernible trend toward early landfalls from 1850 to 2010. If climate change has any affect on hurricanes, it doesn't show up in first calendar date of landfalls that I can see.
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The problem with the mmgw whores is their determination to use any weather event to ‘prove’whatever bullshit they’re selling.
Any single event can’t be used as proof no matter how ignorant or dishonest the charlatan peddling it.
It snowed. That proves man made climate change.
It didn’t snow. Same stupid shit claim.
It was a dry month. You see? Mmgw.
It rained a lot this month. Same assholes babbling the same stupid shit.
The only constant is their answer always involves giving the government money with zero expectation of how that will help.
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Yes, the water in the Gulf has been warm this year. Certainly it has been warm before.
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I guess the massive, world changing climate changes millenia ago were due to MAN made climate change also. Guess warm water Temps in the Gulf this year proves that. ::)
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I guess the massive, world changing climate changes millenia ago were due to MAN made climate change also. Guess warm water Temps in the Gulf this year proves that. ::)
Since the climate was changing centuries before man changed the climate, we clearly need to pay reparations to the climate. Send all your money to the government.
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Yay.