PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on July 13, 2024, 05:37:29 PM
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Interesting information coming out. Citizen journalists claim that people were screaming to the secret service that the shooter was “bear crawling” across the roof and they were ignored.
This will have to come out. Could merry garland’s crime syndicate have intentionally allowed this shooting?
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1812277706072981713
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1812277706072981713
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1812276324817604823
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(https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1812276324817604823)
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1812276324817604823
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1812276324817604823 (ftp://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1812276324817604823)
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https://news.gab.com/2024/07/fight-fight-fight/
Andrew Torba of Gab.
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Information is that biden shit show IGNORED multiple requests from Trump campaign for increased security.
Same shit show that REFUSES security for RFK enforce and after he was targeted by armed lunatics.
Why did the usss sniper ignore shooter until AFTER he fired.
https://truthsocial.com/@kenn715/112782296711438622
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Is this him???
https://truthsocial.com/@joemccuiston/112782117474162635
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Hmmmmm..
The fucktards at cnn haven’t streamed a Trump rally live for years.
First time in long time and sniper shoots Trump.
What did they know and when did that know it?
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Interesting information coming out. Citizen journalists claim that people were screaming to the secret service that the shooter was “bear crawling” across the roof and they were ignored.
This will have to come out. Could merry garland’s crime syndicate have intentionally allowed this shooting?
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1812277706072981713
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1812277706072981713
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1812276324817604823
I believe this person first was interviewed by the BBC. I think he needs to go underground asap. The deep state can’t have him around.
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This entire episode stinks. Huge failure on the part of the USSS and other agencies involved.
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I matter how you cut it, the bitch running the usss has to go along with the asswipe running dhs.
DHS along with the fbi has to be abolished. It is too far gone to fix. The usss has to be overhauled along with firing every lawyer at doj and treasury.
The optics here are clear. The usss ignored the shooter until right after he fired. Way too convenient. It is like he was supposed to die only after taking out our president.
The white wash is underway. It will make the fbi and doj lies about jeffrey epstein look like child’s play as the agencies involved in this clusterfuck investigate themselves and blame Trump.
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Is this him???
https://truthsocial.com/@joemccuiston/112782117474162635 (https://truthsocial.com/@joemccuiston/112782117474162635)
Looks far too big to have been the shooter.
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Hmmmmm..
The fucktards at cnn haven’t streamed a Trump rally live for years.
First time in long time and sniper shoots Trump.
What did they know and when did that know it?
Are we sure of this?
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This entire episode stinks. Huge failure on the part of the USSS and other agencies involved.
The Director was the Head of Security for Pepsi prior to her new gig. DEI hire, most likely
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The Director was the Head of Security for Pepsi prior to her new gig. DEI hire, most likely
At least she wasn’t a four star mentally disturbed, tranny.
The biden regime is a freak show.
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The Director was the Head of Security for Pepsi prior to her new gig. DEI hire, most likely
And supposedly she said her goal was 30% of SS agents would be women. (I haven’t verified that but it’s plausible.)
From what I saw at the assassination attempt, the women SS were inferior. Smaller, less able to be a barrier between the threat and the target, less strong, so trying to get Trump off the floor and hold him up, and generally didn’t seem quite as up to snuff but that could just be my bias. Or were they DEI hires and not actually as qualified as other male applicants who were rejected so the 30% women number could be fulfilled?
They did put themselves between the shooter and Trump and are to be commended for that; it’s a physical risk. But in my opinion women shouldn’t have that job. For what it’s worth, I think the setup was at a higher level than those people who bodily protected Trump.
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And supposedly she said her goal was 30% of SS agents would be women. (I haven’t verified that but it’s plausible.)
From what I saw at the assassination attempt, the women SS were inferior. Smaller, less able to be a barrier between the threat and the target, less strong, so trying to get Trump off the floor and hold him up, and generally didn’t seem quite as up to snuff but that could just be my bias. Or were they DEI hires and not actually as qualified as other male applicants who were rejected so the 30% women number could be fulfilled?
They did put themselves between the shooter and Trump and are to be commended for that; it’s a physical risk. But in my opinion women shouldn’t have that job. For what it’s worth, I think the setup was at a higher level than those people who bodily protected Trump.
DJT's personal SS detail did a good job protecting him. The other SS details assigned, not so much. No way should a lone gunman been able to mount that position and get multiple shots off had the roof top detail been doing their job, or the ground surveillance team.
Watching the one SS agent, a short portly female trying to unholster her weapon was almost comical. A second female SS agent holding a MAC11 who was also pudgy clearly was lost and caught up in the excitement.
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BIDEN ON JULY 8: ‘WE’RE DONE TALKING ABOUT THE DEBATE, IT’S TIME TO PUT TRUMP IN A BULLSEYE’…
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Watching the one SS agent, a short portly female trying to unholster her weapon was almost comical. A second female SS agent holding a MAC11 who was also pudgy clearly was lost and caught up in the excitement.
I noticed that too. Just about all the agents surrounding the SUV that transported Trump were females.
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DJT's personal SS detail did a good job protecting him. The other SS details assigned, not so much. No way should a lone gunman been able to mount that position and get multiple shots off had the roof top detail been doing their job, or the ground surveillance team.
Watching the one SS agent, a short portly female trying to unholster her weapon was almost comical. A second female SS agent holding a MAC11 who was also pudgy clearly was lost and caught up in the excitement.
I get the feeling none of those people, or any LEO for that matter, train and practice as much as the most amateur match competitor (me). The only police I saw at the range who were any good were the ones who shot matches. Holstering and unholstering should be automatic. Muscle memory. Although I do grant that under the adrenaline of a real situation things might be different.
Our instructor attempted to duplicate that pressure but you can’t really. He would keep us there late into the night so we were tired, then have us drink caffeine to get jittery, then verbally abuse us. One time I wasn’t performing well and he screamed, “If you don’t make that shot your daughter will be raped!” And lo and behold, I made the shot. He was a great instructor; I miss him.
But one thing we were taught is the tunnel vision that happens when it’s real; your attention focuses on the threat, specifically the gun the bad guy is holding. Those agents were looking around for more threats, I’m sure their minds were 100% focused on that (after Trump was in the car and they were looking outward). Holstering the weapon should have been so automatic it didn’t require any thought whatsoever. The fumbling seemed to indicate they don’t practice much. You can practice the draw and reholster over and over at home every day without even dry firing. I hate to judge them because I’ve never been in a real situation but I would bet those women do not do that.
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I get the feeling none of those people, or any LEO for that matter, train and practice as much as the most amateur match competitor (me). The only police I saw at the range who were any good were the ones who shot matches. Holstering and unholstering should be automatic. Muscle memory. Although I do grant that under the adrenaline of a real situation things might be different.
Our instructor attempted to duplicate that pressure but you can’t really. He would keep us there late into the night so we were tired, then have us drink caffeine to get jittery, then verbally abuse us. One time I wasn’t performing well and he screamed, “If you don’t make that shot your daughter will be raped!” And lo and behold, I made the shot. He was a great instructor; I miss him.
But one thing we were taught is the tunnel vision that happens when it’s real; your attention focuses on the threat, specifically the gun the bad guy is holding. Those agents were looking around for more threats, I’m sure their minds were 100% focused on that (after Trump was in the car and they were looking outward). Holstering the weapon should have been so automatic it didn’t require any thought whatsoever. The fumbling seemed to indicate they don’t practice much. You can practice the draw and reholster over and over at home every day without even dry firing. I hate to judge them because I’ve never been in a real situation but I would bet those women do not do that.
The SS hasn't different tiers of agents. The newer low experienced agents are typically assigned to investigative units (the SS investigates forgery among other things). Lower tiered agents then do assignments that aren't demanding as they work their skill levels up and move up the list. It takes many years to get into presidential protection, or into the teams that do perimeter protection. And those that make it to that level train, train and train.
The female agents I referenced earlier were clearly not at that level. But we now have a director of the SS that is more interested in diversity hiring than skill.
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Twenty-four percent of the SS is female.
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Twenty-four percent of the SS is female.
Which is fine considering the different task the SS has. Presidential Protection is a small part of their operation.
Yesterday's display was pathetic outside of DJT's team. Keep in mind it was just a few weeks ago the democrat communist tried to strip DJT of ALL SS protection. And it's now obvious DHS and the SS have scaled back the protection over request for more.
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https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/still-strong-sunday-july-14-2024?utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=1uqjx7&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=emailWe
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The SS hasn't different tiers of agents. The newer low experienced agents are typically assigned to investigative units (the SS investigates forgery among other things). Lower tiered agents then do assignments that aren't demanding as they work their skill levels up and move up the list. It takes many years to get into presidential protection, or into the teams that do perimeter protection. And those that make it to that level train, train and train.
The female agents I referenced earlier were clearly not at that level. But we now have a director of the SS that is more interested in diversity hiring than skill.
Thanks, I shouldn’t have assumed presidential protection trains like your average local cop.
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Since Trump isn't president it seems unlikely he would get presidential-level quality of security.
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Since Trump isn't president it seems unlikely he would get presidential-level quality of security.
You're leaving out a few details. This is a former President with an assigned detail, but he is also running for office and has numerous threats daily. This alone requires the same level of protection.
BHO, Clinton and Bush are not running for office, not doing outdoor speaking engagements to huge crowds and they are not under constant attack by the MSM.
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This poor girl. While I’m all over the DEI thing, I don’t think she should be made fun of by posting this picture, which I am posting. But only because it’s already all over Twitter. She did stay by Trump to protect him and it’s not her fault the SS used her to meet a virtue signaling quota.
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She would appear to be left-handed...minority hiring.
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The sniper team’s failures are far too negligent to be considered anything but deliberate.
It just is.
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This poor girl. While I’m all over the DEI thing, I don’t think she should be made fun of by posting this picture, which I am posting. But only because it’s already all over Twitter. She did stay by Trump to protect him and it’s not her fault the SS used her to meet a virtue signaling quota.
She's twice my weight and I'm much taller. Don't they have fitness requirements?
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She's twice my weight and I'm much taller. Don't they have fitness requirements?
Diversity.
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She's twice my weight and I'm much taller. Don't they have fitness requirements?
Fat shamer! ;D
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https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1812485847737840058
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/ponytail-brigade-utter-humiliation-gaggle-female-secret-service/
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She would appear to be left-handed...minority hiring.
Unless she is right handed and did not know how to buy the correct holster.
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DJT's personal SS detail did a good job protecting him. The other SS details assigned, not so much. No way should a lone gunman been able to mount that position and get multiple shots off had the roof top detail been doing their job, or the ground surveillance team.
Watching the one SS agent, a short portly female trying to unholster her weapon was almost comical. A second female SS agent holding a MAC11 who was also pudgy clearly was lost and caught up in the excitement.
Not according to Dan Bongino. https://x.com/catturd2/status/1812492508355539032?s=46
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Not according to Dan Bongino. https://x.com/catturd2/status/1812492508355539032?s=46
I posted Bongono’s response on another post, and since he’s an expert in this area he brought up several things I didn’t see.
Way too much went wrong here.
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Diversity.
The Director of the USSS, a woman, is getting slammed for making DEI her top priority. Thank God this guy didn't hit Trump a half in closer.
What are these fucking idiots thinking? Let's scrap our mission for DEI? What a travesty of reality and dereliction of duty. It's Malfeasance!
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REPORT: Secret Service Resources Were Diverted to Jill Biden’s Saturday Campaign Event in Pittsburgh and Away from Trump’s
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/report-secret-service-resources-were-diverted-jill-bidens/
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TrumpSecret Service unit made up of last second replacements as regular team diverted to jill biden event instead. Rules of engagement, the agents were under orders NOT to fire until President fired upon. Then they could shoot back.
Fucking assholes of the biden freak show, are way beyond stupid.
https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1812606597753168329
https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1812462982661841170
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There was a story of a cop who got onto the roof with the shooter but retreated when the shooter turned his rifle on the cop. One wonders why the cop didn't have his gun ready. This is allegedly why:
A local police officer saw the gunman on the rooftop during former President Donald Trump’s Pennsylvania rally on Saturday but was unable to engage him, Butler County Sheriff Michael T. Slupe told CNN’s Pamela Brown on Sunday.
Slupe said that Butler Township officers received calls about a suspicious person outside the perimeter of the rally and went looking to find that person. The initial calls did not indicate the suspicious person had a gun, he said.
During the search for the suspicious person, officers with township police discovered that the gunman was on the roof, and one local officer hoisted another to get up to the ledge. The shooter turned around, saw the officer peering over and pointed his gun at him. The officer let go of the ledge to “take cover” and save his own life. The gunman then started firing from the rooftop. Trump, who says he was shot in the ear, was rushed offstage with blood on his face.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/local-officer-tried-stop-gunman-214831312.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/local-officer-tried-stop-gunman-214831312.html)
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TrumpSecret Service unit made up of last second replacements as regular team diverted to jill biden event instead. Rules of engagement, the agents were under orders NOT to fire until President fired upon. Then they could shoot back.
Fucking assholes of the biden freak show, are way beyond stupid.
https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1812606597753168329
https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1812462982661841170
Not stupid. Purposeful.
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Fat shamer! ;D
Damn right and societal fat shaming motivates people to live healthier lifestyles, look better, be more effective at their jobs, and be happier. There's no place in law enforcement nor the military for fat, out of shape women and men. Yet, at least in law enforcement, that seems to be the NORM.
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Overnight after the assassination attempt, the FBI identified the patsy, er "shooter", supposedly using "DNA" since the guy supposedly didn't have any ID on him.
According to reports, he had no criminal record and no military service that may have provided a base sample for comparison.
Can anyone explain how this "positive" ID could have happened in a matter of hours with no obvious database of DNA to compare to?
Also, I was watching NewsMax TV following the event and they reported that the NY Post was claiming the shooter was identified as a "Chinese National." Interestingly, this information disappeared overnight.
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(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7649.0;attach=4149)
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Overnight after the assassination attempt, the FBI identified the patsy, er "shooter", supposedly using "DNA" since the guy supposedly didn't have any ID on him.
According to reports, he had no criminal record and no military service that may have provided a base sample for comparison.
Can anyone explain how this "positive" ID could have happened in a matter of hours with no obvious database of DNA to compare to?
Also, I was watching NewsMax TV following the event and they reported that the NY Post was claiming the shooter was identified as a "Chinese National." Interestingly, this information disappeared overnight.
They can get 23andMe and ancestry.com to give them data and find the guy if he or any of his close relatives ever used those services.
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They can get 23andMe and ancestry.com to give them data and find the guy if he or any of his close relatives ever used those services.
Based on what I've read re his family, they don't seem the type to voluntarily give up their privacy for "discovering their roots."
And being able to do this in a matter of hours appears that the government and these private companies are in close cooperation on a regular basis and they have open databases to the feds.
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(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7649.0;attach=4149)
Jesus Christ, could they more obvious. The building looks purposely cut out of the security perimeter!
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They can get 23andMe and ancestry.com to give them data and find the guy if he or any of his close relatives ever used those services.
I'm guessing it was the "close relative" theory. If any of his relatives have been arrested or otherwise had their DNA taken, they could narrow it down in a hurry. Assuming that like YOLT asked, they have ready access to all these databases, which I am pretty sure the SS does.
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Jesus Christ, could they more obvious. The building looks purposely cut out of the security perimeter!
Strikes me more of an attempt at humor
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Overnight after the assassination attempt, the FBI identified the patsy, er "shooter", supposedly using "DNA" since the guy supposedly didn't have any ID on him.
According to reports, he had no criminal record and no military service that may have provided a base sample for comparison.
Can anyone explain how this "positive" ID could have happened in a matter of hours with no obvious database of DNA to compare to?
I was somewhat surprised too by how quickly they identified the shooter. But the surveillance state knows all and sees all (except for the occasional assassin) so I wasn't totally shocked.
Also, I was watching NewsMax TV following the event and they reported that the NY Post was claiming the shooter was identified as a "Chinese National." Interestingly, this information disappeared overnight.
There are now enough third party witnesses of the shooter that make the Chinese national claim untenable. People with agendas make up stuff during an information vacuum.
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Jesus Christ, could they more obvious. The building looks purposely cut out of the security perimeter!
Someone said this is satire. May be.
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I'm guessing it was the "close relative" theory. If any of his relatives have been arrested or otherwise had their DNA taken, they could narrow it down in a hurry. Assuming that like YOLT asked, they have ready access to all these databases, which I am pretty sure the SS does.
Or, they found a random car full of explosives nearby, ran the plates and went to that address, which turned out to be his parents, sampled their DNA and ran the test against the shooter’s DNA.
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Based on what I've read re his family, they don't seem the type to voluntarily give up their privacy for "discovering their roots."
And being able to do this in a matter of hours appears that the government and these private companies are in close cooperation on a regular basis and they have open databases to the feds.
I’m sure under the circumstances they could have rushed a warrant. I’m not sure how fast you can run DNA tests though.
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Strikes me more of an attempt at humor
“PacMan security bubble” gives it away. And Kurt was just playing along.
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I’m sure under the circumstances they could have rushed a warrant. I’m not sure how fast you can run DNA tests though.
google shows DNA testing to take some time. Most labs aren't staffed by Abby.
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Listening to Bongino today. He's on fire. One thing I would ask him, is the level of protection he is talking about different for an ex-president vs. the President.
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Someone said this is satire. May be.
I'm an Idiot. ::)
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Listening to Bongino today. He's on fire. One thing I would ask him, is the level of protection he is talking about different for an ex-president vs. the President.
A good article and a partial answer to your question.
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/ex-secret-service-special-agents-explain-why-countersniper-who-saved-trump-s-life-may-have-lost-crucial-seconds/ar-BB1pYDyh?cvid=8a76538093484012a1eaa326bdc28164&ei=3
Staffing decisions would have been made at the Secret Service's headquarters in Washington, DC, based on whatever agency personnel on the ground recommended after a several-day investigation of the site, Pickle said.
"An advance team actually does a lengthy survey, where they look at everything and then recommend what they need," he said.
"But if they're stretched for resources, headquarters can say we can only get you one team out there. And that's not unusual — if you don't have it, you don't have it," Pickle said.
"It always boils down to resources," he said. "And if it's not a resource problem, and the money was there, then it's still an allocation-of-resources problem," he said — meaning someone underestimated the forces needed to keep Trump safe.
Regardless of how many snipers were present, the Secret Service typically has "360-degree coverage" of an event where a sitting or former president is speaking, Cangelosi said.
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The lying scum of the government are burning daylight making up bullshit lies to try to cover up their incompetence, corruption, and felonies.
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Now its being reported that the cops knew about this kid 26 minutes prior, the building under the roof was a staging area for the cops, and they couldn't alert SS?
Sounds like a "Mah jurs'diction, ain't gonna talk to them Feds" idiot sheriff.
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Does anyone else automatically think of Nazis when reading about the SS?
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Does anyone else automatically think of Nazis when reading about the SS?
I always have haha!
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Does anyone else automatically think of Nazis when reading about the SS?
Nein.
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Does anyone else automatically think of Nazis when reading about the SS?
That might explain why people often use “USSS”
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Dan Bongino is reporting he has unimpeachable sources saying that there was NO LEO presence inside the AGR building on Saturday. We all see the video of LEO’s strand3d behind chained gates and unable to run toward the AGR building to stop the shooter.
The possibility that this was a government set up keeps becoming more and more likely, everyday.
There was a photo showing the senile pedophile in the situation room of the white house supposedly at the time President Trump was being shot.
Senile joe was spending the weekend in Delaware, so why was he sitting in the white house at that exact time?
Just more unanswerable questionable shit swirling around the attempted assassination of President Trump.
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Interesting post and thread.....https://x.com/wendyp4545/status/1813383690883567997
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Interesting post and thread.....https://x.com/wendyp4545/status/1813383690883567997
The questions add up to conspiracy to murder President Trump.
At some point we have to begin to demand the truth.
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The Bee Nails It.
https://babylonbee.com/news/goliath-claims-he-only-lost-because-he-was-fighting-david-on-slightly-sloped-surface
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The questions add up to conspiracy to murder President Trump.
At some point we have to begin to demand the truth.
It’s getting harder and harder to give them the benefit of the doubt. At best, they are unforgivably incompetent. I don’t know which is greater; the odds they are that evil or the odds they are that incompetent. Either way, the lot of them need to be fired.
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It’s getting harder and harder to give them the benefit of the doubt. At best, they are unforgivably incompetent. I don’t know which is greater; the odds they are that evil or the odds they are that incompetent. Either way, the lot of them need to be fired.
Agreed. Too incompetent to be real incompetence for me.
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With all of the incompetent actions or inactions coming to light about the shooting I have wondered several times what foreign leaders who are planning to visit the USA in the next few months are wondering about their security here. Are they wondering if they are on the good side of Biden or the bad side....
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With all of the incompetent actions or inactions coming to light about the shooting I have wondered several times what foreign leaders who are planning to visit the USA in the next few months are wondering about their security here. Are they wondering if they are on the good side of Biden or the bad side....
I'd advise Netanyahu to stay away. OTH, He has MOSSAD
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Memes.
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The memes are just brutal. Too many to post.
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Apparently the stupid bitch, cheatle decided to ‘divert resources,’ from protection and used them in DEI efforts instead.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/07/18/secret_service_chief_faces_mounting_pressure_to_resign_151290.html
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Super information from Susan Crabtree and letter to usss and scum bag chrissy wray.
https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1814011581891547294
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kamel hair- “We too busy watching what you doing to hear what you saying.”
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1814007381615095865
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Another explanation of the shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVn_56UcCIc
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kamel hair- “We too busy watching what you doing to hear what you saying.”
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1814007381615095865
She's an absolute MORON.To think somebody like this is within a heartbeat of being President is a travesty and shows where we are as a territory.
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She's an absolute MORON.To think somebody like this is within a heartbeat of being President is a travesty and shows where we are as a territory.
JUST like the head of the secret service, a totally unqualified DEI hire.
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I forget where I saw this, but paraphrasing:
DEI = DIE
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I forget where I saw this, but paraphrasing:
DEI = DIE
It’s a meme, I’ve seen more than once. There are also countless DEI “elected” (does anyone trust elections?) or appointed officials that are making a complete mess of local judicial and administrative systems for example Tiffany Henyard to name one. The push to put black females in positions of power as a priority over character and qualifications is destroying this country and damaging to actually superior black females who now cannot attain success without the shadow of suspicion that they were a diversity hire.
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This was good.....
https://rumble.com/v5cfej0-special-investigation-panel-w-congressmen-gaetz-roy-crane-biggs-and-mills-e.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
Rant, the need a rumble tag End Rant
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Trying to find the video from the actual hearing, no luck so far