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Title: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Number7 on July 19, 2024, 06:27:43 PM
I need a new BFR and my regular guy just up and retired from it.

I live an hour north of an Orlando and mostly fly sport Pilot rules these days.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Username on July 20, 2024, 06:07:50 AM
The closest I can get is Terry Coats. Really nice guy who gave me a BFR once.  He  retired from Wisconsin to Florida, but he no longer appears in the FAA Airman Registry.  Sorry I can't help.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Number7 on July 20, 2024, 08:03:28 AM
The closest I can get is Terry Coats. Really nice guy who gave me a BFR once.  He  retired from Wisconsin to Florida, but he no longer appears in the FAA Airman Registry.  Sorry I can't help.

Thanks!!!

Several of the guys I used to fly around with for the famous $100 hamburgers have all given it up.
My best choice can’t get insured because of age, not infirmity.

Go figure.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Rush on July 20, 2024, 11:08:39 AM
Thanks!!!

Several of the guys I used to fly around with for the famous $100 hamburgers have all given it up.
My best choice can’t get insured because of age, not infirmity.

Go figure.

That's happening to me with all my doctors. I guess when you get our age, all our friends and associates start retiring.  You try to find a replacement and end up with some young whippersnapper barely out of diapers.  Okay I guess technically you have a medical degree, but there's no way you know what you're doing.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on July 20, 2024, 12:29:23 PM
That's happening to me with all my doctors. I guess when you get our age, all our friends and associates start retiring.  You try to find a replacement and end up with some young whippersnapper barely out of diapers.  Okay I guess technically you have a medical degree, but there's no way you know what you're doing.
Disagree. Recently had an experience where the younger doc (older doc was not available although we had a phone conversation about the situation) had fresher knowledge and made a better diagnosis. He even mentioned having had a lecture in college about the precise situation.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Rush on July 20, 2024, 12:35:07 PM
Disagree. Recently had an experience where the younger doc (older doc was not available although we had a phone conversation about the situation) had fresher knowledge and made a better diagnosis. He even mentioned having had a lecture in college about the precise situation.

I was being half facetious. But only half. My dentist is a young guy and he’s fantastic.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Little Joe on July 20, 2024, 12:41:58 PM
The problem I see with younger doctors is two-fold:

1.  There aren't enough of them to replace those that are retiring.
2.  Most of the younger ones I have seen lately (and I have had to see too many lately) had names I can't pronounce and accents I can't understand.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: tspin on July 20, 2024, 01:20:57 PM
Where are you based?  Need just a CFI? Or also need a plane?  If just a CFI, I might ba able to help. I’m a CFI in Sanford.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Rush on July 20, 2024, 02:09:24 PM
The problem I see with younger doctors is two-fold:

1.  There aren't enough of them to replace those that are retiring.
2.  Most of the younger ones I have seen lately (and I have had to see too many lately) had names I can't pronounce and accents I can't understand.

They just have more formal education than they do experience with real life patients. As they get older those proportions reverse. Over a career, experience with real patients ends up trumping classroom learning.

On the other hand they can ossify. Not keep up with new developments, stubbornly stick to old debunked ways. But that’s a double edged sword too. Sometimes the old ways are superior. The new ways due to profit motive or socio-political agendas rather than what’s scientifically true and best for the patient.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Number7 on July 20, 2024, 03:00:26 PM
Where are you based?  Need just a CFI? Or also need a plane?  If just a CFI, I might ba able to help. I’m a CFI in Sanford.

Need both.
Got too old to have the plane anymore.
Taking up the drone as a replacement so I stay connected and can teach CAP kids piloting skills before they step up to the 152.
Sanford is about 90 minutes.
 Problem there.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Username on July 21, 2024, 05:53:06 AM
They just have more formal education than they do experience with real life patients. As they get older those proportions reverse. Over a career, experience with real patients ends up trumping classroom learning.

On the other hand they can ossify. Not keep up with new developments, stubbornly stick to old debunked ways. But that’s a double edged sword too. Sometimes the old ways are superior. The new ways due to profit motive or socio-political agendas rather than what’s scientifically true and best for the patient.
Agree on all points.  Younger doctors have more recent training and are up on the latest diagnostic techniques and treatments.  Older doctors have more experience, but often are way overworked and the only knowledge they have on medicates is what they hear from the corporate pill pushers.  They have also seen pretty much everything and have developed an intuitive sense of what's going on.  So for a GP, I go for experience.  For specialty I've found fresh meat is best.

In flying, I'd rather have an old fart ex-military bush pilot who's teaching for the fun of it vs. a young buck building time to get into the airlines.  The younger CFI knows the rules and regulations and teaches from that.  The old fart knows how the world works.  Here's what's legal, and here's what works.  And here's how you stay out of trouble.  Plus I love all the stories.  I have the best of both worlds.  My CFII is relatively young but she has tremendous real world experience.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Little Joe on July 21, 2024, 06:06:09 AM
  I have the best of both worlds.  My CFII is relatively young but she has tremendous real world experience.
Yeah, but what does she look like?
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Username on July 21, 2024, 06:18:16 AM
Yeah, but what does she look like?
Gosh... I can't tell with my Foggles on.  But she does classy up the plane quite a bit.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Little Joe on July 21, 2024, 06:33:19 AM
Need both.
Got too old to have the plane anym
I suspect you are going to need to be contacting flight schools.

My wife has a different problem.  She needs (wants) a CFII that will fly with her in her plane, but most of the local CFIs are affiliated with a school and will not let them fly in a privately owned plane.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Username on July 21, 2024, 06:58:37 AM
Here's another option.  I found that Gleim has a "find an instructor" feature.  https://www.gleimaviation.com/resources/business-directory/  Here's the search result for the Orlando area.  Maybe cold-calling each one until you find someone who can help.

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Cyrus Ahsani
Longwood, FL 32750
Phone: (407) 489-9514
Instructs in: Orlando, Sanford, Apopka

Patrick Casa
Titusville, FL 32780
Phone: (316) 655-1344
Cell: (316) 655-1344
Instructs in: Titusville, Merritt Island, Melbourne, Orlando

David Conrad
, FL
Phone: (407) 473-0949
Instructs in: Orlando

Omar Fernandez
Orlando, FL 32822
Phone: (407) 446-1903
Cell: (407) 446-1903
Instructs in: Orlando

Deepak Gajre
Oviedo, FL 32765
Phone: (407) 910-5052
Instructs in: Orlando

Habib Hussain
Kissimmee, FL 34741
Phone: (407) 633-1162
Instructs in: Orlando, Kissimmee, Lakeland

Timothy Kreiner
IRVINE, CA 92620
Phone: (949) 342-0085
Instructs in: Orlando, Deltona

Randal O. Longchamps
Davenport, FL 33897
Phone: (321) 465-0339
Cell: (321) 465-0339
Instructs in: Orlando

Apibet Manakitrungruang
Orlando, FL 32810
Phone: (708) 265-6686
Instructs in: Orlando

David Mead
Kissimmee, FL 34744
Phone: (407) 508-2221
Instructs in: Kissimmee, Orlando

Gabriel Montes
Orlando, FL 32817
Phone: (646) 578-3030
Instructs in: Orlando, Sanford, Kissimmee

Sabina Olivieri
Gilbert, AZ 85234
Phone: (954) 665-5017
Instructs in: Orlando, Sanford

Read Phelps
Wellington, FL 33414
Phone: (561) 714-5609
Instructs in: Daytona Beach, Ormond Beach, Flagler Beach, New Smyrna Beach, Sanford, Orlando, Kissimmee, Deland

Nicholas M. Smith
Orlando, FL 32821
Phone: (330) 936-4223
Instructs in: Orlando

Returned 14 result(s) for Orlando, Florida.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Rush on July 21, 2024, 07:02:17 AM
Agree on all points.  Younger doctors have more recent training and are up on the latest diagnostic techniques and treatments.  Older doctors have more experience, but often are way overworked and the only knowledge they have on medicates is what they hear from the corporate pill pushers.  They have also seen pretty much everything and have developed an intuitive sense of what's going on.  So for a GP, I go for experience.  For specialty I've found fresh meat is best.

In flying, I'd rather have an old fart ex-military bush pilot who's teaching for the fun of it vs. a young buck building time to get into the airlines.  The younger CFI knows the rules and regulations and teaches from that.  The old fart knows how the world works.  Here's what's legal, and here's what works.  And here's how you stay out of trouble.  Plus I love all the stories.  I have the best of both worlds.  My CFII is relatively young but she has tremendous real world experience.

Also agree on all points. I had one of each CFI, well actually two old fart CFIs and one young one. The old farts totally knew their stuff. The young one pushed the envelope (too much actually) but in doing so I learned so much that I otherwise wouldn’t have. He had incredible stick and rudder skills but suffered from what a lot of young whippersnappers suffer from: thinking they are immortal and that they can bend the rules.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Username on July 21, 2024, 07:14:14 AM
Also agree on all points. I had one of each CFI, well actually two old fart CFIs and one young one. The old farts totally knew their stuff. The young one pushed the envelope (too much actually) but in doing so I learned so much that I otherwise wouldn’t have. He had incredible stick and rudder skills but suffered from what a lot of young whippersnappers suffer from: thinking they are immortal and that they can bend the rules.
Cool difference between young bucks who think they are immortal and can bend the rules, and old farts that actually ARE immortal and can bend the rules.  The difference is that the old farts know which rules can be bent and which can't.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Number7 on July 21, 2024, 08:14:16 AM
Thanks!!!
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Anthony on July 21, 2024, 10:41:34 AM
Thanks!!!

Several of the guys I used to fly around with for the famous $100 hamburgers have all given it up.
My best choice can’t get insured because of age, not infirmity.

Go figure.

I'm 65 and I'm the "kid" at my airport. GA is an old man's theater of operation. Ugh......
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: You Only Live Twice on July 21, 2024, 11:23:33 AM
I'm 65 and I'm the "kid" at my airport. GA is an old man's theater of operation. Ugh......

Didn't know you were that ancient
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Anthony on July 21, 2024, 04:23:24 PM
Didn't know you were that ancient

I'm immature, superficial and shallow, that's why.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Bamaflyer on July 22, 2024, 10:28:56 AM
I suspect you are going to need to be contacting flight schools.

My wife has a different problem.  She needs (wants) a CFII that will fly with her in her plane, but most of the local CFIs are affiliated with a school and will not let them fly in a privately owned plane.

That’s odd. I’m affiliated with a flight school but instruct in privately owned planes as well.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Rush on July 22, 2024, 10:44:31 AM
That’s odd. I’m affiliated with a flight school but instruct in privately owned planes as well.

Sounds like it depends on the school.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Bamaflyer on July 22, 2024, 10:58:40 AM
Sounds like it depends on the school.

Yeah guy that owns the flight school doesn’t like it but I’m not fond of him so screw him lol
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Bob Noel on July 22, 2024, 11:28:54 AM
I need a new BFR and my regular guy just up and retired from it.

I live an hour north of an Orlando and mostly fly sport Pilot rules these days.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

if you are prior-military, are there any aeroclubs near you?  ("near" being a relative term...)

edit:  wow - not a lot of USAF aeroclubs left.  The one at Patrick apparently shut down in 2007.  and I am stunned that WPAFB doesn't have an aeroclub (yes, I know WPAFB isn't near you).

Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Bamaflyer on July 22, 2024, 02:11:42 PM
if you are prior-military, are there any aeroclubs near you?  ("near" being a relative term...)

edit:  wow - not a lot of USAF aeroclubs left.  The one at Patrick apparently shut down in 2007.  and I am stunned that WPAFB doesn't have an aeroclub (yes, I know WPAFB isn't near you).

Closest probably Eglin AFB in Ft Walton Beach. I think Navy Jax still has a club.
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Number7 on July 29, 2024, 04:41:47 AM
The local flight schools emptied out as everyone headed up to Oshkosh, but on a whim I dropped into one I’d never even notices in my travels and met the nicest kid. He was between students and we handled everything.

We’ve made a date to fly drones together in a complex of warehouses under construction that he has permission to use during off hours.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions,
Title: Re: Anyone Know CFI in Central Florida
Post by: Number7 on July 31, 2024, 08:39:30 AM
I'm immature, superficial and shallow, that's why.

It’s always good to know your positives and advantages.

Keep up the good work!