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Title: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Lucifer on September 21, 2024, 07:17:20 AM
https://www.theblaze.com/columns/opinion/the-great-congressional-republican-meltdown-and-what-it-means

The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)

A blow-by-blow on why Republican voters hate Republican politicians.


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The Republican House of Representatives was supposed to play hardball with the Democrats and the Senate. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (R-La.) had promised to pass a six-month budget (a “clean CR”) along with the SAVE Act. But he failed dramatically, with 14 Republicans of all stripes voting against it.

So what happened? Much of the answer depends on which no votes you’re talking about and who you ask, but in the end the blame falls squarely on the speaker and his team.

First, consider the Pentagon lovers, or “defense hawks” — or whatever you want to call them. These guys love the military, eat up the scary secret briefings, and can’t find a billion-dollar credit card slip they won’t sign. The shiny brass over in Arlington said any sort of short-term funding deal would “jeopardize national security,” so these guys said they couldn’t support the CR.

You’ll hear complaints about amateur staff in over their heads from everyone from the Freedom Caucus to retired leadership staff, and after enough failures, it’s hard to ignore.

Seems like a tough hill to climb, right? Potentially yes, but here’s where the speaker and his team are supposed to come in.

Active and expertly run offices would work with the Republican whip to get these guys back into the fold. The Pentagon Republicans are rarely as difficult as the ideologues, and between cajoling and a few sweet promises, you can get them on board.

Johnson’s colleagues in leadership, however, don’t appear to have been a part of any plan. One anonymous member even complained to a morning newsletter that they had no idea what the plan was. It’s hard to really whip when you’re not in the room where the decisions are made.

Then there are the 12-step dreamers. These are those conservative Republicans who (rightly) long for the days of a proper, 12-bill appropriations process and (wrongly) rage against the machine until those days return.

I say “wrongly” because the last time Congress went through the proper appropriations process was 1996. To put that in perspective, in 1996 Rep. Maxwell Frost (D-Fla.) wasn’t born yet. I also say “wrongly” because a six-month CR is the best shot in town at avoiding a bloated omnibus, which they — to a man — oppose even more aggressively. Ho-hum.

Anyway, these guys outnumber the recalcitrant Pentagon boys and demand a process, and they’re not going to vote for just any darn CR! … At least not one without the promise of a big old war with the Democrats and Senate uniparty at the end of it.

And this is where our speaker comes back in.

Because that wasn’t coming, was it? D.C. had reason to suspect Johnson wasn’t going to fight to the mats, telling the Senate, “An omnibus has zero chance in my chamber, and it’s a CR or a shutdown.” He said nothing like this, and his aides reportedly whispered around Capitol Hill that it was all a bluff — and one with enough time to change course before the end-of-month deadline.

That means those conservative Republicans maybe willing to bend their 12-bill rule for a fight weren’t ever going to get one. They were like those Highlanders in “Braveheart” who didn’t feel like standing against the English only for the nobles to negotiate a few new titles. So they left the field.

And finally, there was the McCarthy Derangement Caucus, which is just a bunch of wild men (and women) throwing meat to the crowds and screaming, “Are you entertained?!” Johnson wasn’t going to get those guys on his side, and that’s just part of the math you start out with.

But the rest is basically on him, and don’t just take my word for it. Folks from every side are glaring in his direction. You’ll hear complaints about amateur staff in over their heads from everyone from the Freedom Caucus to retired leadership staff, and after enough failures, it’s hard to ignore.

Even standing strictly on the outside, without the benefit of D.C.’s omnipresent barroom gossip, you can see a speaker who publicly brought a bill to a vote on the floor and failed — even with the Republican nominee’s full-throated support. How do you square that with a speaker in control?

So what’s next?

First, a three-month continuing resolution, which ends in a funding fight in December, when everybody wants to go home and no one wants to shut down the government. Then, another bloated omnibus, courtesy of your friends in the Grand Old Party. Merry Christmas. Maybe something will change. But I doubt it.
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 21, 2024, 08:10:33 AM
Reminds me of the endless Jim Jordan hearings that produce zero results.
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Username on September 21, 2024, 09:27:10 AM
Still more proof that the Republicans don't want to lead.  More money to be made by following.  Democrats are most excellent at feeding the Military Industrial Complex.
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Lucifer on September 21, 2024, 09:46:05 AM
We are not going to see any improvements until people start voting this slime (both R's and D's) out of office.

Time to rid ourselves of the career politicians.
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Username on September 21, 2024, 09:59:57 AM
We are not going to see any improvements until people start voting this slime (both R's and D's) out of office.

Time to rid ourselves of the career politicians.
I agree, sort of.  Being a politician, a good one, takes a lot of knowledge and a lot of skill.  That's not something that a novice has when stepping into the job.  Trump was not experienced with politics the first time around.  He made some poor choices for advisors and even his VP was not reliable.  This time he's much more aware of how DC works and how to defeat the System.

I'm OK with career politicians as long as they work for US and not for themselves or to preserve the State.
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Lucifer on September 21, 2024, 10:35:48 AM
I agree, sort of.  Being a politician, a good one, takes a lot of knowledge and a lot of skill.  That's not something that a novice has when stepping into the job.  Trump was not experienced with politics the first time around.  He made some poor choices for advisors and even his VP was not reliable.  This time he's much more aware of how DC works and how to defeat the System.

I'm OK with career politicians as long as they work for US and not for themselves or to preserve the State.

  Name the career politicians that are working for us.   That list is extremely short.

  Those other career politicians are the ones that have us in this mess.  McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer, Cornyn, Graham, Durbin, Kane, Murkowski, Romney, Rubio, Thune, Waters, Jeffries, Lofgren.............you get the point.

  The problem with the US population when asked about congress is "They are doing a terrible job", yet when asked about their representative or senator, the response is "Oh, well he's ok".

  The low information types are killing us at election time.   We seriously need to limit voting rights to tax payers only.
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Username on September 21, 2024, 11:06:37 AM
I totally agree with you.  Many people get into politics with the purest of reasons.  Eventually they all get corrupted by the money and the power.  You're right.  The only solution is term limits.  Vote them all out before they get too corrupted.  Yes, we may lose some good ones along the way, but far more bad ones will be expelled.  And with re-election not on the table, even the bad ones might do some good.
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Lucifer on September 24, 2024, 05:07:43 AM
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Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Rush on September 24, 2024, 05:53:41 AM
Anyone that gets into politics, and is able to stay there, has a certain personality.  That personality includes: 

* attention seeking
* a thick skin
* the idea that they know how things “should” be run, and know it better than others
* an enjoyment of power over others
* an ability to manipulate people and things to further their own goals and ambitions

These characteristics are neither good nor bad. They are necessary strengths for a good leader. But in a bad or weak person they are tools of great evil.  Psychopathic politicians use them for sadistic destruction. Normal erstwhile good politicians can be corrupted by carrots and sticks. All politicians must have limits placed on them.

This is what our founders knew and why they set up a system where no person has complete power, and the highest law is the Constitution, not one person or set of people. 

The system is corrupted now, malignant and out of control, and the Constitution is no longer respected or enforced. The only way out of this that I can see, short of civil war, is Convention of States.
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Anthony on September 24, 2024, 06:10:26 AM
I don't think we have the political will to have a convention of the States. The Media who shape most people's beliefs won't support it. They along with our politicians and EVERY institution, now controlled by Totalitarian Marxists (Fascists) want the status quo.
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Rush on September 24, 2024, 06:31:13 AM
I don't think we have the political will to have a convention of the States. The Media who shape most people's beliefs won't support it. They along with our politicians and EVERY institution, now controlled by Totalitarian Marxists (Fascists) want the status quo.

I fear you are right.
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Bamaflyer on September 24, 2024, 06:39:44 AM
Anyone that gets into politics, and is able to stay there, has a certain personality.  That personality includes: 

* attention seeking
* a thick skin
* the idea that they know how things “should” be run, and know it better than others
* an enjoyment of power over others
* an ability to manipulate people and things to further their own goals and ambitions

.

Sounds like you’re describing the female Clinton bitch 🤢
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Rush on September 24, 2024, 06:50:31 AM
Sounds like you’re describing the female Clinton bitch 🤢

As opposed to the male Clinton bitch?   ;D
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Bamaflyer on September 24, 2024, 11:33:51 AM
As opposed to the male Clinton bitch?   ;D

At least we don’t have to read his bullshit like Hillary but yeah, he’s an evil bitch too.
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Number7 on September 24, 2024, 12:21:06 PM
The piss ant romney says he is afraid of what another Trump administration looks like.

He is sorry to be retiring from the senate.

I suspect the voters in Utah had all they wanted from this lying asshole and would have retired him anyway.
Title: Re: The great congressional Republican meltdown (and what it means)
Post by: Little Joe on September 27, 2024, 08:02:38 AM

A blow-by-blow on why Republican voters hate Republican politicians.
A blow-by-blow on why Republican voters hate Republican politicians.