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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Little Joe on April 28, 2016, 07:30:16 AM

Title: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Little Joe on April 28, 2016, 07:30:16 AM
Who knew? 😀

Boehner called Cruz the most miserable SOB he vet met in his life. "Lucifer in the flesh"!

Google it. I don't know how to copy links w the iPhone.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: You Only Live Twice on April 28, 2016, 07:36:14 AM
Who knew? 😀

Boehner called Cruz the most miserable SOB he vet met in his life. "Lucifer in the flesh"!

Google it. I don't know how to copy links w the iPhone.

I like him already.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/john-beohner-ted-cruz-lucifer-222570
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Bob Noel on April 28, 2016, 07:52:02 AM
wait, does that mean Cruz is really supporting Trump?

I'm soooo confused.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: You Only Live Twice on April 28, 2016, 07:57:13 AM
Neither Cruz nor Trump are the darlings of the Repub establishment (Boehner). Guess Boner hates Cruz more. Or he sees Trump as the only chance to defeat Hellery.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2016, 08:01:49 AM
I can assure you, Cruz is definitely not Lucifer!
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: nddons on April 28, 2016, 09:07:49 AM
Neither Cruz nor Trump are the darlings of the Repub establishment (Boehner). Guess Boner hates Cruz more. Or he sees Trump as the only chance to defeat Hellery.
Actually, it sounds like Trump is more establishment than Cruz, given that they are "texting buddies" (which sounds gay) and golfing buddies. You don't have to be an elected politician to be a part of the establishment, but one hing the establishment hates more than anything is someone that doesn't go along to get along, and who threatens the gravy train. That would be Cruz.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2016, 12:11:55 PM
http://gawker.com/ted-cruz-weve-caught-you-in-a-lie-1773630713

http://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-john-boehner-lawyer-2015-9
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Little Joe on April 28, 2016, 12:44:15 PM
Actually, it sounds like Trump is more establishment than Cruz, given that they are "texting buddies" (which sounds gay) and golfing buddies. You don't have to be an elected politician to be a part of the establishment, but one hing the establishment hates more than anything is someone that doesn't go along to get along, and who threatens the gravy train. That would be Cruz.
I guess you can twist it to mean anything you can.  But a rigid, "sob" is going to have a tougher time getting anything done that Obama had trying to get the Rs to say "yes" to his proposals.  If you like gridlock, you will be in heaven with Cruz as President.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: nddons on April 28, 2016, 12:47:47 PM
I guess you can twist it to mean anything you can.  But a rigid, "sob" is going to have a tougher time getting anything done that Obama had trying to get the Rs to say "yes" to his proposals.  If you like gridlock, you will be in heaven with Cruz as President.
Every day Congress doesn't pass a law is another day longer that Liberty still exists.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2016, 12:50:02 PM
Every day Congress doesn't pass a law is another day longer that Liberty still exists.

And every day Congress doesn't do their job and looks the other way is another day longer that tyranny still exist.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: nddons on April 28, 2016, 01:03:41 PM
And every day Congress doesn't do their job and looks the other way is another day longer that tyranny still exist.
Do more laws prevent tyranny?  No. Impeachment prevents tyranny, if Congress has the testicles to do so.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2016, 01:24:08 PM
Do more laws prevent tyranny?  No. Impeachment prevents tyranny, if Congress has the testicles to do so.

Tyranny is also a Congress and it's speaker who sign over massive budgets and increase entitlement spending as appeasement, as well as to further their own agendas (buying votes and remaining in power).

The recent Congresses have ceded their authority to manage the budget and to act as a legislative branch over to the Executive branch.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: JeffDG on April 28, 2016, 01:37:10 PM
Tyranny is also a Congress and it's speaker who sign over massive budgets and increase entitlement spending as appeasement, as well as to further their own agendas (buying votes and remaining in power).

The recent Congresses have ceded their authority to manage the budget and to act as a legislative branch over to the Executive branch.
And now you boy Trump is climbing right into bed with them!
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Little Joe on April 28, 2016, 01:46:23 PM
And every day Congress doesn't do their job and looks the other way is another day longer that tyranny still exist.
A gridlocked government will never reign in spending.  They will never reduce taxes. They will never streamline/eliminate redundant or useless agencies.

Cruz would never get a justice to SCOTUS approved.  Cruz will deliver gridlock like we've never seen.  Corporate taxes will remain high.  Welfare will continue to grow because nobody will be able to agree on how to stop it.

If Cruz were to win the Presidency, I suspect that in four years the Rs will be kicked out of Congress like nobody's business.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: JeffDG on April 28, 2016, 01:47:40 PM
If Cruz were to win the Presidency, I suspect that in four years the Rs will be kicked out of Congress like nobody's business.
As opposed to the predictions with a Trump nomination of the R's being kicked out of Congress this year, giving Hillary a pliable Congress to work with.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Little Joe on April 28, 2016, 02:00:15 PM
As opposed to the predictions with a Trump nomination of the R's being kicked out of Congress this year, giving Hillary a pliable Congress to work with.
I don't believe that will happen.  Hillary is a has-been.  Young people don't like her.  Even women don't like her.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: JeffDG on April 28, 2016, 02:15:16 PM
I don't believe that will happen.  Hillary is a has-been.  Young people don't like her.  Even women don't like her.
Keep believing!  I know that will make it all true!


Trump nomination is going to be a brutal loss for the presidential and down ticket races.  But at least the Trumpkins can rest assured that they vented their anger on the non-establishment candidate who praises McConnell and has Boehner on his side.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Lucifer on April 28, 2016, 02:21:54 PM
A gridlocked government will never reign in spending.  They will never reduce taxes. They will never streamline/eliminate redundant or useless agencies.

Cruz would never get a justice to SCOTUS approved.  Cruz will deliver gridlock like we've never seen.  Corporate taxes will remain high.  Welfare will continue to grow because nobody will be able to agree on how to stop it.

If Cruz were to win the Presidency, I suspect that in four years the Rs will be kicked out of Congress like nobody's business.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: nddons on April 28, 2016, 02:25:08 PM
A gridlocked government will never reign in spending.  They will never reduce taxes. They will never streamline/eliminate redundant or useless agencies.

Cruz would never get a justice to SCOTUS approved.  Cruz will deliver gridlock like we've never seen.  Corporate taxes will remain high.  Welfare will continue to grow because nobody will be able to agree on how to stop it.

If Cruz were to win the Presidency, I suspect that in four years the Rs will be kicked out of Congress like nobody's business.
The ONLY thing to slow spending down over the last 25 years was the evil sequester, which was the product of a gridlocked Congress.

So every time anyone mentions how Obama has "shrunk" the deficit, know that the ONLY reason the deficit shrunk was because of a deadlocked Congress and the imposition of sequester.

Compromise brought us a relaxation of the sequester, so the pork can continue to flow.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Number7 on April 29, 2016, 08:13:48 AM
A gridlocked government will never reign in spending.  They will never reduce taxes. They will never streamline/eliminate redundant or useless agencies.

Cruz would never get a justice to SCOTUS approved.  Cruz will deliver gridlock like we've never seen.  Corporate taxes will remain high.  Welfare will continue to grow because nobody will be able to agree on how to stop it.

If Cruz were to win the Presidency, I suspect that in four years the Rs will be kicked out of Congress like nobody's business.

It certainly worked that way in 1984 when Ronald Reagan won reelection by a landslide.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Little Joe on April 29, 2016, 09:54:17 AM
It certainly worked that way in 1984 when Ronald Reagan won reelection by a landslide.
Neither Trump or Cruz come close to being Reagan.
But Cruz has fewer similarities than Trump.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: nddons on April 29, 2016, 02:37:14 PM
Neither Trump or Cruz come close to being Reagan.
But Cruz has fewer similarities than Trump.
Besides (probably) belonging to the Screen Actors Guild, what does Trump have in common with Reagan?  (Please don't say "he was a Republican before he was a Democrat."  Reagan became the conservative standard bearer decades before running for President.)
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Little Joe on April 29, 2016, 03:10:15 PM
Besides (probably) belonging to the Screen Actors Guild, what does Trump have in common with Reagan?  (Please don't say "he was a Republican before he was a Democrat."  Reagan became the conservative standard bearer decades before running for President.)
For one thing, I remember all the panic among Reagan's detractors that spread all kinds of fairy tales about how Reagan was going to get us into WWIII and raise taxes on the "little people" so that he could give tax breaks to the rich.  There was all sorts of outlandish and tragic scenarios that the JEFFDGs of the day were spreading about Reagan, none of which came true.  Cruz supporters sound like MSNBC reporters when talking about Trump.  They can twist anything he says to make it sound bad.

Remember, I didn't say Trump was more like Reagan than Cruz.  I said Cruz was less like Reagan than Trump.  I put it that way on purpose.  Even though many people hate Trump, many people like him.  NOBODY (ok, maybe a few) likes Cruz.  A lot of people liked Reagan too.  Whether he is your "Conservative Ideal" or not, if nobody likes him, nobody will work with him and he won't accomplish diddly.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Lucifer on April 29, 2016, 04:11:19 PM
For one thing, I remember all the panic among Reagan's detractors that spread all kinds of fairy tales about how Reagan was going to get us into WWIII and raise taxes on the "little people" so that he could give tax breaks to the rich.  There was all sorts of outlandish and tragic scenarios that the JEFFDGs of the day were spreading about Reagan, none of which came true.  Cruz supporters sound like MSNBC reporters when talking about Trump.  They can twist anything he says to make it sound bad.

Remember, I didn't say Trump was more like Reagan than Cruz.  I said Cruz was less like Reagan than Trump.  I put it that way on purpose.  Even though many people hate Trump, many people like him.  NOBODY (ok, maybe a few) likes Cruz.  A lot of people liked Reagan too.  Whether he is your "Conservative Ideal" or not, if nobody likes him, nobody will work with him and he won't accomplish diddly.

Considering Trump has now set a record for voters in a Republican primary, I'd say a few folks like the guy.

Cruz has the opposite problem and can't seem to get a majority of people to like him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cruzs-latest-fight-with-fellow-republicans-is-a-reminder-many-dont-like-the-guy/2016/04/28/823f586c-0d57-11e6-bfa1-4efa856caf2a_story.html
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: asechrest on May 02, 2016, 12:19:06 PM

I have no idea what's happening here, but it's awesome:

https://twitter.com/TheFix/status/727168010709045250?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: nddons on May 02, 2016, 01:11:53 PM
Considering Trump has now set a record for voters in a Republican primary, I'd say a few folks like the guy.

Cruz has the opposite problem and can't seem to get a majority of people to like him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/cruzs-latest-fight-with-fellow-republicans-is-a-reminder-many-dont-like-the-guy/2016/04/28/823f586c-0d57-11e6-bfa1-4efa856caf2a_story.html
That's just further proof that the Establishment candidate is Trump, as I have been saying.

"The second thing missing from the “Insurgent v. Insurgent” storyline is: We’re one insurgent short.

"Donald Trump is the Washington establishment. The fact that he has not previously held public office does not make him an “outsider.” Hell, Reince Priebus — the head of the Republican National Committee — has never held public office. If the ruling class were just the officeholders, it would be short-lived. The Donald Trumps who pay the freight are the Washington establishment’s lifeblood. They are joined to the officeholders at the hip . . . or hadn’t you noticed Governor Christie shadowing The Donald?"

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/434787/donald-trump-insurgent-republican-establishment-media
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Little Joe on May 02, 2016, 01:14:07 PM
That's just further proof that the Establishment candidate is Trump, as I have been saying.

"The second thing missing from the “Insurgent v. Insurgent” storyline is: We’re one insurgent short.

"Donald Trump is the Washington establishment. The fact that he has not previously held public office does not make him an “outsider.” Hell, Reince Priebus — the head of the Republican National Committee — has never held public office. If the ruling class were just the officeholders, it would be short-lived. The Donald Trumps who pay the freight are the Washington establishment’s lifeblood. They are joined to the officeholders at the hip . . . or hadn’t you noticed Governor Christie shadowing The Donald?"

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/434787/donald-trump-insurgent-republican-establishment-media
your hatred of Trump has you sounding more and more like an MSNBC reporter each day.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Lucifer on May 02, 2016, 01:18:00 PM
your hatred of Trump has you sounding more and more like an MSNBC reporter each day.

(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s549/lucifer68/giphy_zpsuoyvbgti.gif)
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: nddons on May 03, 2016, 05:14:23 AM
your hatred of Trump has you sounding more and more like an MSNBC reporter each day.
And the shallowness of your substance-free response has you sounding like a true Trump fan.

No response to the observation that Trump IS the establishment, had funded the establishment in a MAJOR way, and has endorsed the establishment's causes?

I didn't think so.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Lucifer on May 03, 2016, 05:39:55 AM
And the shallowness of your substance-free response has you sounding like a true Trump fan.

No response to the observation that Trump IS the establishment, had funded the establishment in a MAJOR way, and has endorsed the establishment's causes?

I didn't think so.

And just like eliminaTED you are throwing everything at the wall hoping something will stick.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: JeffDG on May 03, 2016, 09:47:18 PM
And just like eliminaTED you are throwing everything at the wall hoping something will stick.
You mean like Trumpy boy and his "Your daddy was involved in the JFK assasination!"  That kind of throwing bullshit against the wall?

Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: Little Joe on May 04, 2016, 04:19:43 AM
And the shallowness of your substance-free response has you sounding like a true Trump fan.

No response to the observation that Trump IS the establishment, had funded the establishment in a MAJOR way, and has endorsed the establishment's causes?

I didn't think so.
Trump has been known to work with the establishment, and he has been known to use the establishment, but Trump is not part of the establishment any more than a mechanic is part of a car.

And speaking of shallow, Cruz supporters have ONE item to fall back on:  Cruz is a strict Constitutionalist.  I appreciate and give him credit for that, but that is ALL he has and that just isn't enough.  As has just been proven.
Title: Re: Cruz is Lucifer
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on May 04, 2016, 04:26:04 AM
I guess we just saw the shortest VP candidacy in history.