PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on November 19, 2024, 07:58:51 AM
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So the democrat Communist using their puppet FJB are going to try to kick off WW3 by telling the dictator of Ukraine to fire US made missiles into Russia to provoke Putin.
On the flip side, I don't think Putin will take the bait. I believe Putin is smart enough to know he will be dealing with Trump in 2 months. I believe this is also dictator Zelenskyy's last gasp to keep the war (and money) going.
Of course all of this could change if Zelenskyy drops a missile into a large Russian city.
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It's my understanding that there are still restrictions on what targets those missiles can hit. Stupid things like russian occupied regions that actually belong to the Ukraine and such.
I'll have to look it up...
but the bottomline, it's not open season on all of russia.
yet.
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It's my understanding that there are still restrictions on what targets those missiles can hit. Stupid things like russian occupied regions that actually belong to the Ukraine and such.
I'll have to look it up...
but the bottomline, it's not open season on all of russia.
yet.
And what happens if the dictator decides to go for broke? Right now this is like handing a loaded pistol to a toddler...........
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Yeah something like the target coordinates via satellite are provided by US military “advisors” to the Uks.
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There is speculation on
Twitter X that perhaps this is another gift from Biden to Trump. There isn’t enough time for Ukraine to launch the attack before Jan. 20 due to the logistics of the equipment, so Trump comes into office with this ready to use negotiation tool. And Biden is screwing Ukraine by telegraphing the move, so that Russia can move troops out of range, when Biden could have given the approval secretly. But he didn’t.
Giving Russia advance notice weakens Ukraine’s position and also incentivizes Russia to work with Trump to negotiate an end to the war which will likely leave Russia with much or all of the territory they occupy. This is going to make it easier, not harder, to end the hostilities, which is a good thing for Trump and a bad thing for the cabal running things that wants the war to continue indefinitely so they can continue to profit, but who are the same cabal who fucked Joe over by deposing him and replacing him with an unelected twat who he never liked in the first place.
Yes, Joe wanted to continue the war as long as he himself profited but possibly his loyalty changed the minute they betrayed him, and the gravy train was going to end for him anyway. Trump became the enemy of my new enemy is my new friend.
Yes Joe is demented, but we don’t really know whether or not he’s still capable of this type of machination. He might be.
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Except Uks already launched.
Putin Updates Russia’s Nuclear Doctrine Mandates Following US Long-Range Missile Strikes from Ukraine Inside Their Borders on Tuesday
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/11/putin-updates-russias-nuclear-doctrine-mandates-following-us/
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Whelp. Nevermind then.
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Ukraine has already developed its own long range systems and has already been hitting targets well inside Russia. The use of ATACMS changes very little. Meanwhile, the Kremlin propaganda bluffing reaches new heights with the usual tools repeating the WWIII nonsense. Putin wants Ukraine, not lose spectacularly. Why else escalate with North Korean troops and then get in a huff when the US responds in equal measure?
Who here thinks Trump would turn the other cheek or back down if the Russians escalated under his watch?
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It's being reported Russia shot down 5 of the 6 U.S. missles fired and damaged the 6th. So, not a game changer at all.
Trump has to already be telling these guys to stand down.
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It's being reported Russia shot down 5 of the 6 U.S. missles fired and damaged the 6th. So, not a game changer at all.
Trump has to already be telling these guys to stand down.
I’m 100% sure he’s talking to both of them. Not that either are listening to him right now but it’s an incremental process. I gotta believe Trump’s got this. We’re not going to pop off in ww3. Nothing’s going to ruin my optimism at the moment.
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It's being reported Russia shot down 5 of the 6 U.S. missles fired and damaged the 6th. So, not a game changer at all.
Trump has to already be telling these guys to stand down.
Or would that be "stand back and stand by"?
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It's being reported Russia shot down 5 of the 6 U.S. missles fired and damaged the 6th. So, not a game changer at all.
That is what the Russians reported. The US says only 2 of 8 were intercepted.
Source: https://ukranews.com/en/news/1048326-us-says-that-russian-air-defense-was-able-to-shoot-down-only-two-atacms-missiles-over-bryansk-oblast (https://ukranews.com/en/news/1048326-us-says-that-russian-air-defense-was-able-to-shoot-down-only-two-atacms-missiles-over-bryansk-oblast)
ATACMS have already been in use against targets insides Russian occupied Ukraine for some time now. Since Russia has declared the occupied areas as Russian territory then technically by their own reckoning ATACMS have already been used against Russian territory. So Putin drew a Red Line that had already been crossed.
Putin keeps drawing red lines that eventually get crossed. When bluffing fails he just bluffs harder. He is head kleptomaniac of a kleptocracy and if he did try to order use of nukes over the use of ATACMS the kleptocracy would turn on him.
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That is what the Russians reported. The US says only 2 of 8 were intercepted.
Source: https://ukranews.com/en/news/1048326-us-says-that-russian-air-defense-was-able-to-shoot-down-only-two-atacms-missiles-over-bryansk-oblast (https://ukranews.com/en/news/1048326-us-says-that-russian-air-defense-was-able-to-shoot-down-only-two-atacms-missiles-over-bryansk-oblast)
ATACMS have already been in use against targets insides Russian occupied Ukraine for some time now. Since Russia has declared the occupied areas as Russian territory then technically by their own reckoning ATACMS have already been used against Russian territory. So Putin drew a Red Line that had already been crossed.
Putin keeps drawing red lines that eventually get crossed. When bluffing fails he just bluffs harder. He is head kleptomaniac of a kleptocracy and if he did try to order use of nukes over the use of ATACMS the kleptocracy would turn on him.
One would hope. Or would they all start falling out of windows?
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One would hope. Or would they all start falling out of windows?
Poisoning seems to be Putin’s preference.
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UK supplied Storm Shadow missiles have been used against underground command bunkers inside Russian territory, indicating that the UK has silently authorized the use of the missiles after the US authorized ATACMS missiles.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-launches-intercontinental-ballistic-missile-attack-ukraine-kyiv-says-2024-11-21/
I'm kind of surprised that their ICBM even launched successfully.