PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 22, 2025, 08:08:41 AM
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I'm at odds with myself on this one. Is the proposal to give each of us $5,000 or just each tax filing unit? If you give everyone, 330M, the money you rack up $1.65T. Individual returns filed seems to be about half that number still leaving some $800B+. Would that money be better used by paying down the debt? What say all of you?
As an aside, it scares me that seventy-four Senators voted against cutting $1.5T from the budget. Is there any stomach in D.C. to truly cut our spending?
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I'm at odds with myself on this one. Is the proposal to give each of us $5,000 or just each tax filing unit? If you give everyone, 330M, the money you rack up $1.65T. Individual returns filed seems to be about half that number still leaving some $800B+. Would that money be better used by paying down the debt? What say all of you?
Pay down the debt.
As an aside, it scares me that seventy-four Senators voted against cutting $1.5T from the budget. Is there any stomach in D.C. to truly cut our spending?
The answer? No.
They are too accustomed at feeding from the trough and easy money. Money=Power.
They still view it as "their money", not yours. This was illustrated by allowing FJB to hire 80,000 new IRS agents, plus his new regulations on tax collection.
Until people get smart and stop re-electing the slime that occupies congress, it will never get fixed.
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I'm at odds with myself on this one. Is the proposal to give each of us $5,000 or just each tax filing unit? If you give everyone, 330M, the money you rack up $1.65T. Individual returns filed seems to be about half that number still leaving some $800B+. Would that money be better used by paying down the debt? What say all of you?
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Pay down the debt
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I’m sure there are taxpayers who could use the $5000. I’d rather “my share” go to paying down the debt. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
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repay SS fund that was looted by Clinton
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I'd rather have it pay down the debt. Then next year have my tax burden reduced proportionally to what I pay.
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I think a portion of it should be rebated to those that paid in, proportional to their payment. Most people are low information voters but a check is important information to them and they will vote for whoever sent it to them. Ds have been using that strategy forever.
2nd choice would be to put it all towards the debt this year, but next year reduce the tax rates for those that actually pay tax while still putting the majority of the savings towards the debt.
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If you overpaid at the grocery store, would you go back in and get your money back?
If you were overcharged for your insurance, would you get your money back?
We overpaid our taxes. We should get our money back.
Let (demand) the ones who overcharged us pay the debt.
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I think a portion of it should be rebated to those that paid in, proportional to their payment. Most people are low information voters but a check is important information to them and they will vote for whoever sent it to them. Ds have been using that strategy forever.
2nd choice would be to put it all towards the debt this year, but next year reduce the tax rates for those that actually pay tax while still putting the majority of the savings towards the debt.
Bold is mine.
Literally buying votes. Other politicians do it outright with unearned entitlements like welfare. This is different, it’s giving money back to the taxpayers from whom they took it. Assuming only those who paid in get a check.
If I torture this a bit though, I can justify sending checks to those who didn’t pay taxes due to not meeting the minimum income threshold, because the federal government deficit spending caused inflation and inflation hurts low income people the most. It is in effect a tax on them, even if they don’t file a return.
I saw some videos prior to the election where people were asked whether they were going to vote for Trump or Biden (Harris) and some of them said, “Trump, because he gave me money.” They may have meant stimmy checks or maybe Trump’s tax cuts, or just a booming pre-Covid economy. Either way, more money in their pocket definitely inclines people to vote for you. Refunding cash directly will be felt more quickly and directly than waiting for inflation to come down and hope people make the connection.
It is extremely important that Trump’s heir win in 2028, or even Republicans hold on to Congress in 2026. I think every little strategy to make that happen should be used.
Addressing the debt is important however, but we can do both. The first and most important step is to stop the borrowing. Balance the budget, make it a surplus, stop increasing the principle. After massively cutting programs and spending, the surplus can be split between increasing payments on the debt and giving back some to taxpayers to keep their loyalty.
Congress budgeting responsibly is a big problem though. Maybe hammer on the public an education campaign about who they should primary out and vote in, to keep America from going bankrupt. At the same time put a microscope on them so any corruption is spot lit and implement consequences.
A good person to listen to is Michael Franzese. He’s an ex-Mafioso turned good guy and he knows all the tricks these people use, including the “Biden crime family”. He was prosecuted back in the day by Rudy Giuliani but now they’re friends and both together have a good handle on how to go after organized crime, which is essentially what corruption in DC is.
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If you overpaid at the grocery store, would you go back in and get your money back?
If you were overcharged for your insurance, would you get your money back?
We overpaid our taxes. We should get our money back.
Let (demand) the ones who overcharged us pay the debt.
I don't know of any private entity that, on discovering money saving efficiencies but still operates in the red, refunds the efficiency savings to customers.
Anyway, governments are essentially protection rackets so free market principles don't apply. The leaders of the rackets will select whichever option keeps the victims from violent uprisings.
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I don't know of any private entity that, on discovering money saving efficiencies but still operates in the red, refunds the efficiency savings to customers.
Anyway, governments are essentially protection rackets so free market principles don't apply. The leaders of the rackets will select whichever option keeps the victims from violent uprisings.
And keeps them in power, which is what Trump and team need to do now.