PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on March 07, 2025, 06:56:03 PM
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Two active-duty US Army soldiers and one former soldier were arrested in Oregon on Thursday and were accused of gathering and sending sensitive information to individuals in China. The arrests were confirmed by the Department of Justice and the FBI’s new Director, Kash Patel. The accused in the case were identified as Jian Zhao and Li Tian, who were stationed at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, and former soldier Ruoyo Duan.
All three officers were charged with conspiring to commit bribery and theft of government property. Meanwhile.
Zhao is facing additional charges of conspiring to obtain and transmit national defense information to an individual not authorized to receive it.
“The defendants arrested today are accused of betraying our country, actively working to weaken America’s capabilities and empowering our adversaries in China,” Attorney General Pam Bondi said in a statement.
“They will face swift, severe, and comprehensive justice,” she added. The Justice Department noted that Duan and Tian were accused of conspiring with each other to “surreptitiously gather sensitive military information related to the United States Army’s operational capabilities” from Nov. 28, 2021, to at least Dec. 19, 2024.
https://www.offthepress.com/kash-patel-fbi-arrests-three-us-army-personnel-for-spying/
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Lockem up.
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Lockem up.
Public execution.
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Firing Squads are now back in vogue.
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Firing Squads are now back in vogue.
They are. They just executed a man by firing squad, in SC if I’m not mistaken.
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I think they need to execute them AND those who sent them to spy.
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I asked Grok what is their status?
Answer:
The three U.S. Army soldiers recently arrested—Jian Zhao, Li Tian, and Ruoyu Duan—were involved in a scheme to send sensitive military information to individuals in China, according to federal indictments from March 2025. Jian Zhao and Li Tian are active-duty soldiers stationed at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington, while Ruoyu Duan is a former soldier residing in Oregon. The available information does not explicitly state their citizenship or residency status, leaving it unclear whether they were U.S. citizens, legal residents (such as green card holders), or held some other status.
What is known is that they were legally enlisted in the U.S. Army, which typically requires at least lawful permanent residency (green card status) for non-citizens, though exceptions exist under specific programs like MAVNI (Military Accessions Vital to the National Interest), which allows certain non-residents with critical skills to enlist. Citizenship is not a strict requirement for enlistment, and non-citizens can serve, often pursuing naturalization through military service. Posts on X and some news reports have speculated about their origins, with some users asserting they were "born in China," but this is not confirmed in official sources like the Department of Justice announcements or indictments.
The indictments focus on their roles and actions—Zhao as a supply sergeant, Tian as a health services administrator, and Duan as a former soldier—rather than their personal backgrounds. Without explicit documentation (e.g., court records or Army statements specifying citizenship), their exact status remains unconfirmed. It’s possible they were naturalized U.S. citizens of Chinese descent, legal residents who immigrated from China, or even born in the U.S. to Chinese parents, but the lack of clarity in public records leaves this an open question. For a definitive answer, further details from the ongoing legal proceedings would be needed, which are not yet available as of March 8, 2025.
My response to this:
Why is their immigration status a carefully guarded secret? If Grok 3 cannot find any reports, the media must be actively refusing to disclose it. We can’t be criticized for assuming they weren’t born in America going by their names. Don’t most Chinese immigrants giving birth on American soil give the baby a more American sounding name?
And if I am right that they aren’t citizens then:
What the FUCK are we doing allowing Chinese green card holders to join our military?! We know for a fact that the Chinese communist party actively spies on us and probably recruits spies by threatening their families. Any ethnic Chinese not at least second generation here, is a security risk with sensitive information. It’s not rocket surgery, what the Hell is the Army thinking?!!
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While searching for more details I came across this story:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/army-intelligence-analyst-charged-selling-military-secrets-to-china/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/army-intelligence-analyst-charged-selling-military-secrets-to-china/)
"An active duty Army soldier and intelligence analyst spent over a year selling sensitive military documents related to the U.S. defense of Taiwan, weapons systems, and missile defense systems to China, federal prosecutors alleged in an indictment unsealed Thursday and obtained by CBS News.
Sergeant Korbein Schultz is accused of using his top secret security clearance to download classified U.S. government records at the behest of an unnamed individual who claimed to live in Hong Kong, allegedly amassing $42,000 in the process."
Thought "Wow - bunch of espionage arrests these past couple days." Then looked closer at the date of the article and realized this particular arrest occurred one year ago: March 7, 2024. Male of probable German ancestry due to last name. There may have been furor elsewhere over his actions last year, but don't recall them making it to this forum.
My simple takeaway is that motivations for espionage aren't always driven by heritage or duty to some other power, but good old fashioned greed.
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While searching for more details I came across this story:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/army-intelligence-analyst-charged-selling-military-secrets-to-china/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/army-intelligence-analyst-charged-selling-military-secrets-to-china/)
"An active duty Army soldier and intelligence analyst spent over a year selling sensitive military documents related to the U.S. defense of Taiwan, weapons systems, and missile defense systems to China, federal prosecutors alleged in an indictment unsealed Thursday and obtained by CBS News.
Sergeant Korbein Schultz is accused of using his top secret security clearance to download classified U.S. government records at the behest of an unnamed individual who claimed to live in Hong Kong, allegedly amassing $42,000 in the process."
Thought "Wow - bunch of espionage arrests these past couple days." Then looked closer at the date of the article and realized this particular arrest occurred one year ago: March 7, 2024. Male of probable German ancestry due to last name. There may have been furor elsewhere over his actions last year, but don't recall them making it to this forum.
My simple takeaway is that motivations for espionage aren't always driven by heritage or duty to some other power, but good old fashioned greed.
Absolutely. That doesn’t change the fact that China is a current adversary. Germany is not. Just because anyone of any ethnicity or nationality can be a traitor doesn’t mean it’s wise to outright invite it in the front door by admitting non-citizens from adversarial nations.
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While searching for more details I came across this story:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/army-intelligence-analyst-charged-selling-military-secrets-to-china/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/army-intelligence-analyst-charged-selling-military-secrets-to-china/)
"An active duty Army soldier and intelligence analyst spent over a year selling sensitive military documents related to the U.S. defense of Taiwan, weapons systems, and missile defense systems to China, federal prosecutors alleged in an indictment unsealed Thursday and obtained by CBS News.
Sergeant Korbein Schultz is accused of using his top secret security clearance to download classified U.S. government records at the behest of an unnamed individual who claimed to live in Hong Kong, allegedly amassing $42,000 in the process."
Thought "Wow - bunch of espionage arrests these past couple days." Then looked closer at the date of the article and realized this particular arrest occurred one year ago: March 7, 2024. Male of probable German ancestry due to last name. There may have been furor elsewhere over his actions last year, but don't recall them making it to this forum.
My simple takeaway is that motivations for espionage aren't always driven by heritage or duty to some other power, but good old fashioned greed.
Espionage is still spying.
Selling military secrets to the fucking enemy is still worthy of the firing squad%
Pretending it’s not a big deal might work for the mushy leftist but not for the rest of us.