PILOT SPIN

Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on August 17, 2025, 09:26:39 AM

Title: Homeland Security Department slams New York Gov. Hochul for pardon
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2025, 09:26:39 AM
Since the subject of pardons came up, here's another one that will get zero notice in the MSM.



https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/dhs-slams-new-york-gov-hochul-pardon-illegal-alien-killer

Homeland Security Department slams New York Gov. Hochul for pardon of 'illegal alien killer'

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The Homeland Security Department criticized New York Democrat Gov. Kathy Hochul for pardoning an illegal migrant to keep him from being deported.

"@GovKathyHochul, your shameful secret is out," the DHS wrote in a social media post on X. "Rather than putting New Yorkers first, you’re protecting a criminal illegal alien KILLER with a rap sheet including convictions for manslaughter and criminal possession of a firearm."

Hochul pardoned an illegal migrant who was convicted of manslaughter as a teenager, according to a report from The New York Times.

The individual, Somchith Vatthanavong, 52, was pardoned last month by Hochul. Vatthanavong shot a man during a pool hall confrontation in Brooklyn and argued he did it in self-defense, according to published reports.

Supporters of Vatthanavong said Hochul's pardon would keep him from being deported.

"If you are a convicted criminal alien, you should not have the privilege to be in this country," the DHS post continued. "President Trump and @Sec_Noem will continue fighting to protect every American citizen and remove the worst of the worst from our nation."
Title: Re: Homeland Security Department slams New York Gov. Hochul for pardon
Post by: azure on August 17, 2025, 10:27:26 AM
Since the subject of pardons came up, here's another one that will get zero notice in the MSM.

Google turned up a number of MSM articles about the pardon, including one in NYT. Does this link work?

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/15/nyregion/hochul-pardon-laos-immigrant-deportation.html?unlocked_article_code=1.e08.TAV7.7_hA-CqqEToy&smid=url-share (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/15/nyregion/hochul-pardon-laos-immigrant-deportation.html?unlocked_article_code=1.e08.TAV7.7_hA-CqqEToy&smid=url-share)

(It's a "share this article" link, which I shouldn't be able to do if I'm not a paid subscriber. Hmmm... maybe I need to go to my NYT account and make sure I'm not paying them still/again.)

Anyway, yes this is an abuse of pardon power UNLESS this Laotian is a naturalized US citizen. If he's here illegally (on expired refugee status), then he has no right to expect to be allowed to stay.

US citizens, American born or naturalized, should NEVER be deported imo.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Department slams New York Gov. Hochul for pardon
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2025, 10:32:18 AM
Where do you see he was a citizen of the US?
Title: Re: Homeland Security Department slams New York Gov. Hochul for pardon
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2025, 10:35:45 AM
From the article “ Ms. Hochul, a moderate Democrat”

LMAO!

She just to the left of Stalin.   
Title: Re: Homeland Security Department slams New York Gov. Hochul for pardon
Post by: Anthony on August 17, 2025, 11:48:20 AM
From the article “ Ms. Hochul, a moderate Democrat”

LMAO!

She just to the left of Stalin.

She's one of the worst. Right up there with Murphy and Newsom.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Department slams New York Gov. Hochul for pardon
Post by: Number7 on August 17, 2025, 11:51:20 AM
From the article “ Ms. Hochul, a moderate Democrat”

LMAO!

She just to the left of Stalin.

In the modern democrat communist party, Stalin was right of many democrat members of congress.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Department slams New York Gov. Hochul for pardon
Post by: azure on August 17, 2025, 11:57:14 AM
Where do you see he was a citizen of the US?

I didn't say he was. I don't know whether he is or not. Please reread what I wrote, especially the bolded part:

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this is an abuse of pardon power UNLESS this Laotian is a naturalized US citizen. If he's here illegally (on expired refugee status), then he has no right to expect to be allowed to stay.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Department slams New York Gov. Hochul for pardon
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2025, 12:15:09 PM
I didn't say he was. I don't know whether he is or not. Please reread what I wrote, especially the bolded part:

So deport his ass, period.  Hochul is a disgrace.
Title: Re: Homeland Security Department slams New York Gov. Hochul for pardon
Post by: azure on August 17, 2025, 12:30:12 PM
So deport his ass, period.  Hochul is a disgrace.

Apparently she pardoned him so that he couldn't be marked for deportation. I'm not sure how that even makes sense - lots of illegals without a record have been swept up and deported under Trump's emergency authority.

So yes, he should be detained anyway and if he contests deportation, he should be given a chance to plead his case.