PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on September 17, 2025, 03:47:29 PM
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This is a serious question for our liberal lurkers. Please explain what the democrat party is offering voters in next years mid terms.
Please explain the party's vision for our country and what they will do to achieve it.
I'm very serious with this request and will ask other posters to allow them to speak up. I would really like to hear the responses.
Thanks.
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I would like to hear that too.
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Me three.
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Prepare yourselves to be bombarded with accusations of racism.
It's pretty much all they have.
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Prepare yourselves to be bombarded with accusations of racism.
It's pretty much all they have.
But I’m giving them a chance to speak up and tell us what we are missing. Campaign 101 says the candidate must have a message that resonates with the voters. That message should be one that is positive and inspiring.
Several of us want to hear that message.
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I was wondering how man liberal lurkers we have. This place isn't much fun for people that take a contrary position.
So I looked at the bottom of the home page and saw almost 400 active users. Almost all of them are listed as "guest". The funny (or not so funny) thing was how many of them are looking at regular member profiles. If I were a "conspiracy theorist", I'd be worried.
Does anyone know what these "guests" are? Web bots? FBI? National Security? POA spies?
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I was wondering how man liberal lurkers we have. This place isn't much fun for people that take a contrary position.
So I looked at the bottom of the home page and saw almost 400 active users. Almost all of them are listed as "guest". The funny (or not so funny) thing was how many of them are looking at regular member profiles. If I were a "conspiracy theorist", I'd be worried.
Does anyone know what these "guests" are? Web bots? FBI? National Security? POA spies?
All of the above but probably mostly bots looking for marketing or propaganda opportunities but we’re not big enough to be of much interest, I assume. I hope.
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I was wondering how man liberal lurkers we have. This place isn't much fun for people that take a contrary position.
So I looked at the bottom of the home page and saw almost 400 active users. Almost all of them are listed as "guest". The funny (or not so funny) thing was how many of them are looking at regular member profiles. If I were a "conspiracy theorist", I'd be worried.
Does anyone know what these "guests" are? Web bots? FBI? National Security? POA spies?
don't know. However, have you tried the same kind of look at other forums you participate in?
edit: Right now, POA has the following online: Total: 1,660 (members: 44, guests: 1,616)
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I suppose it’s plausible that there are hundreds of legit individuals, daily, googling “pilot forums” checking out whatever comes up in the search. I kinda doubt it though.
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I suppose it’s plausible that there are hundreds of legit individuals, daily, googling “pilot forums” checking out whatever comes up in the search. I kinda doubt it though.
If so, they’ll quickly be disappointed here. ;D
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Well Dems? Whatcha got?
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I looked at our member list. We have some 450 members registered but only 45 have more than 100 posts. The vast majority have less than 10. That may mean something, but I have no idea what.
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To be brutally honest this is a political debate board, not a pilot board, because all other pilot boards censored out the political debate with a heavy left leaning bias or just outright banned it. And for whatever reason the left doesn't come by here much, maybe because they get affirmation on all the other boards but get hammered by the right on this one, because this one got squoze to the right by the bias on the left on all the other boards.
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You're right about it being a political debate board. The left can only survive a debate if they ban / censor speech from the right. Here, the left is welcome to debate any and all subjects and let their intellectual arguments stand up against the same on the right. We don't censor or ban anyone. The left hasn't developed the intellectual "thick skin" that we on the right have to survive. Usually, the left is praised and coddled and made all feel good no matter what putrid shit they spew. Their defense to conflicting ideas is not a counter argument, but it is to censor, ban, kill the holder of that conflicting idea. Or to escape to their warm fuzzy enablers.
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Or to escape to their warm fuzzy enablers.
Or their furry ones.
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You're right about it being a political debate board. The left can only survive a debate if they ban / censor speech from the right. Here, the left is welcome to debate any and all subjects and let their intellectual arguments stand up against the same on the right. We don't censor or ban anyone. The left hasn't developed the intellectual "thick skin" that we on the right have to survive. Usually, the left is praised and coddled and made all feel good no matter what putrid shit they spew. Their defense to conflicting ideas is not a counter argument, but it is to censor, ban, kill the holder of that conflicting idea. Or to escape to their warm fuzzy enablers.
The liberals tend to be afraid here because on the other boards they have left leaning moderators to protect them.
But back to the OP of this thread: I would really like to hear from the other side. Tell me why I should cross over, what are you offering?
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You're right about it being a political debate board. The left can only survive a debate if they ban / censor speech from the right. Here, the left is welcome to debate any and all subjects and let their intellectual arguments stand up against the same on the right. We don't censor or ban anyone. The left hasn't developed the intellectual "thick skin" that we on the right have to survive. Usually, the left is praised and coddled and made all feel good no matter what putrid shit they spew. Their defense to conflicting ideas is not a counter argument, but it is to censor, ban, kill the holder of that conflicting idea. Or to escape to their warm fuzzy enablers.
Well said. As well, their main defense is outright lies. Charlie Kirk was countering them.
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The democrat crickets are awfully loud tonight.
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The liberals tend to be afraid here because on the other boards they have left leaning moderators to protect them.
But back to the OP of this thread: I would really like to hear from the other side. Tell me why I should cross over, what are you offering?
I’d like to know too.
But we are left guessing. Here’s what I think they might say:
1. We aren’t orange Hitler.
2. We will defeat the literal Nazi regime in power now.
3. We will forbid policing of inner cities, and allow criminals loose on the streets.
4. We will mandate taxpayer funding of sex change surgery, lifelong hormone therapy, and subsequent multiple followup surgeries and treatments for complications continue with Medicaid, and in the military, and in prisons, for anyone who simply says they’re the other sex, and for children whose parents say they’re “trans”.
5. We will reinstate DEI and double down on making sure straight white men are on the absolute bottom rung of society in every aspect no matter their merit. We will require majority POC representation in every company everywhere in the U.S. even in isolated podunk towns with 90% white populations. Can’t find any POC job applicants to make your company 90% POC? You will be sued into oblivion for “racism”.
6. We will designate MAGA as a domestic terrorist group with the evidence that they blocked the entrance to abortion clinics. We will remove Antifa from the domestic terrorist list and continue to ignore the vandalism, assaults and murders they promote and commit.
7. We will mandate all judges be either angry black women, white leftist Karens, or castrated leftist white male cucks. We will accept unlimited Soros money to make this happen.
8. We will pass federal law mandating universal mail in ballots for all elections, legalize ballot harvesting for any ballots, not just family members, and ban any surveillance of drop boxes.
9. We will arrest, try and convict Elon Musk on made up charges, imprison him for life, and confiscate X, turn it back into Twitter and staff it with deep state goons.
10. We will publicly hang DJT, until almost but not quite dead, let him regain consciousness, then draw and quarter him, video it and play it to kindergarteners for the next 100 years of our utopian reign.
Any lefties lurking and reading this are no doubt fapping furiously right now.
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When I think of the democrat communist party, all i can come up with is that they hate everyone that succeeded on their merit.
The democrat communist party has no real platform. All they are is group of corrupt scum bags, stealing from the taxpayers, claiming that the people who work to pay for all the stuff they give away to stay in office are racist, sexist, bigots, who are nazis, because they think they should be free to think. Do and say what they want.
There is no democracy involved in the modern democrat communist party. The democracy they are about is the purest form of fascism on the planet.
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Oh I forgot:
11. We will throw open the borders and welcome all third worlders, put them up in luxury hotels and give them monthly cash, while ignoring homeless American veterans.
I could go on and on. We will raise the tax rate so high all small businesses will be destroyed, we will ban drilling and fracking, I could do a whole other list on destroying the economy alone.
The bottom line is the left DESPISES Western civilization, and they share that hate with authoritarian fundamentalist Islam. Thus explains “Queers for Palestine”. These forces will join up to defeat Western values and civic structure and after they’re done destroying the U.S. and Europe, Islam will turn on the wacko woke and kill them all.
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to the original request, how the statements at https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/?
(don't for a second think I'm a democrat - I'm just playing devil's advocate)
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Rush,
You left out letting Black Rock buy up all houses so you do own nothing.
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Rush,
You left out letting Black Rock buy up all houses so you do own nothing.
Yep, although a lot is implied under "utopian reign". We all know "utopia" means leftist communist Hell. Where "communist" is defined as elitist fascist tyrranical oligarchic dictatorship or something. Because that's what they all actually are.
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to the original request, how the statements at https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/?
(don't for a second think I'm a democrat - I'm just playing devil's advocate)
That was for the 2024 presidential campaign (which they were confident they would win).
I was wondering what the plan for 2026 mid terms and also the 2028 Presidential election are.
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Or their furry ones.
Lol!
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That was for the 2024 presidential campaign (which they were confident they would win).
I was wondering what the plan for 2026 mid terms and also the 2028 Presidential election are.
yup, I know what it was from.
I doubt their "vision" is any different now.
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to the original request, how the statements at https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/?
Well see, that's the problem. They truly believe that they're helping. That they are building a utopia. That they're doing the right thing. And when it crashes and burns, that they didn't try hard enough. Of course, the power brokers at the top don't care, so long as they get rich and powerful.
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yup, I know what it was from.
I doubt their "vision" is any different now.
The dynamic has changed significantly. People are no longer cowering in fear of cancel culture, and people are no longer afraid to tell the MSM when they are full of it.
The voting blocks have changed significantly. The "blue wall" of battleground states is no more.
The 2024 vision and message failed horribly on an election they thought was in the bag.
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And when it crashes and burns, that they didn't try hard enough.
Also because the evil right fought and obstructed them.
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Well see, that's the problem. They truly believe that they're helping. That they are building a utopia. That they're doing the right thing. And when it crashes and burns, that they didn't try hard enough. Of course, the power brokers at the top don't care, so long as they get rich and powerful.
I see it differently. They know exactly what they are doing. This shit show has been played out over and over in communist countries. They are going along with the new masters in hopes of having a place at the table. The masters smile and nod while their underlings do the dirty work to get them into power. Once power is achieved, there are brick walls everywhere that are used for backdrops of firing squads or long ditches dug to shove the bodies into.
Stalin called them "useful idiots".
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They love to say thatvsocialism failed because it didn't go far enough, meaning full blown Communism is what they want.
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The 2024 vision and message failed horribly on an election they thought was in the bag.
what are the odds they will try to double-down?
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what are the odds they will try to double-down?
I'm looking for a dark horse candidate to appear. The current field are all losers. Newsom won't play except to west coast cities.
Look for another Obama type to appear and try the same Obama playbook (play up to white liberals, marketing phrase such as "Hope and Change" and crafted speeches). Of course more promises of "free stuff" to get the low information types in line.
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Well see, that's the problem. They truly believe that they're helping. That they are building a utopia. That they're doing the right thing. And when it crashes and burns, that they didn't try hard enough. Of course, the power brokers at the top don't care, so long as they get rich and powerful.
I see it differently. They know exactly what they are doing. This shit show has been played out over and over in communist countries. They are going along with the new masters in hopes of having a place at the table. The masters smile and nod while their underlings do the dirty work to get them into power. Once power is achieved, there are brick walls everywhere that are used for backdrops of firing squads or long ditches dug to shove the bodies into.
Stalin called them "useful idiots".
Oh yeah there are both types. Some actually believe in the bullshit. They are idealists who can’t comprehend real human nature. Somehow if you ban private property everyone will behave altruistically. And they know nothing of history.
The leaders of the movement are literal psychopaths who indeed know what they’re doing, do it only to elevate themselves, and then will betray all who helped them but are no longer useful.
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I'm looking for a dark horse candidate to appear. The current field are all losers. Newsom won't play except to west coast cities.
Look for another Obama type to appear and try the same Obama playbook (play up to white liberals, marketing phrase such as "Hope and Change" and crafted speeches). Of course more promises of "free stuff" to get the low information types in line.
I expect that they will put up a trans with a black lesbian furry vp. No liberal would dare say anything against them.
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I expect that they will put up a trans with a black lesbian furry vp. No liberal would dare say anything against them.
lol.
Actually expect a smooth talking person much like BHO. The BHO model worked and got a person elected that was no way qualified to hold the office.
Think Manchurian Candidate.
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I think Lucifer is right. On the OUTSIDE, the person will seem normal, and appear to be more centrist. However, the reality will be that once in office they'll be just another far left Communist like BHO.
The Democrats want to be the new Royalty and they view Communism as the way to get it, just like the Soviets, and Chicoms did
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Unfortunately I agree.
Although I never saw Obama’s alleged “charisma”. He was always repulsive to me.
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lol.
Actually expect a smooth talking person much like BHO. The BHO model worked and got a person elected that was no way qualified to hold the office.
Think Manchurian Candidate.
That worked with the puppet FJB, to a point. He was such an empty shell that he had to hide from everyone or his puppet strings would be too obvious. I agree that the next candidate will be a charismatic smooth talker with little history. Just like BHO. I didn't see his charisma either, but he didn't really need it. He got voted in by people who wanted to prove they weren't racist.
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Following up, even though he keeps denying it, BHO's spouse Big Mike might have a chance. He's just as qualified as hillary and he appeals to democrats yearning for their glory days.
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Following up, even though he keeps denying it, BHO's spouse Big Mike might have a chance. He's just as qualified as hillary and he appeals to democrats yearning for their glory days.
Big Mike won’t ever run.
He’s got what he was after, which is wealth and fame. Those two went into the WH on a senator’s salary and came out multi millionaires and have done little to justify that kind of income. He prefers jet setting around with the Hollywood crowd and knows being back in the WH would stop that. Besides, being back in the WH would require he hang out with Barrack even more, so that alone nixes the idea.
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Big Mike won’t ever run.
He’s got what he was after, which is wealth and fame. Those two went into the WH on a senator’s salary and came out multi millionaires and have done little to justify that kind of income. He prefers jet setting around with the Hollywood crowd and knows being back in the WH would stop that. Besides, being back in the WH would require he hang out with Barrack even more, so that alone nixes the idea.
I agree. There is no ideological mission there. Trump for example gave up a relaxing retirement at the height of his popularity with the liberal media because he truly loves America and saw it going down the drain. Now half the country hates him and he’s got massive job pressure at nearing 80.
Michelle has no such mission worth making that sacrifice. No judgment, I wouldn’t either. I’d want to fade into the background and just be secure and comfortable in whatever is left of my life.
But then I’ve never been the attention seeking type, which I believe is a requirement to be president, regardless of party.
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Not a single democrat willing to explain their platform…
One would think that they suspect what we know.
The democrat platform is hate, violence, censorship, arson, racism, corruption, and more hate.
They do not have a platform. They have a mental health crisis.
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I also would love for a Democrat to give us an example (not AI) of Charlie Kirk saying something actually hateful.
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I also would love for a Democrat to give us an example (not AI) of Charlie Kirk saying something actually hateful.
Anything that goes against the democrat mindset is hateful (to them).
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Not a single democrat willing to explain their platform…
Perhaps you and Lucifer know something I don't, but I can't imagine there are a bunch of liberal lurkers here.
Calling out liberals for an opinion here is like fishing in an empty bucket.
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Perhaps you and Lucifer know something I don't, but I can't imagine there are a bunch of liberal lurkers here.
Calling out liberals for an opinion here is like fishing in an empty bucket.
Oh they lurk and scurry away because the non approved opinions frighten them.
Once challenged to put up something, anything defining their platform. The fear congeals with the hate and bubbles up like bile, choking them.
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Perhaps you and Lucifer know something I don't, but I can't imagine there are a bunch of liberal lurkers here.
Calling out liberals for an opinion here is like fishing in an empty bucket.
I would like Steingar to come back. I’m curious if he is still just a regular Democrat or if he has bought into the woke mind virus. Like, okay with cutting body parts off of minors yet God forbid they should smoke a cigarette. Thinks there are 245 genders? Was one of the 55% of liberals who answered “Yes,” when asked if it is okay to assassinate Trump?
At least I can probably rest assured he didn’t join “Queers for Palestine”.
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Perhaps you and Lucifer know something I don't, but I can't imagine there are a bunch of liberal lurkers here.
Calling out liberals for an opinion here is like fishing in an empty bucket.
They lurk here. There are ways to tell.
That’s ok. They are welcome to participate if they want to. And if not, lurk away!
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They lurk here. There are ways to tell.
That’s ok. They are welcome to participate if they want to. And if not, lurk away!
When looking at members it shows their join date. Is there any way to show last time they logged in?
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When looking at members it shows their join date. Is there any way to show last time they logged in?
This is you:
Date Registered:
November 27, 2015, 05:38:53 PM
Local Time:
September 21, 2025, 04:54:12 PM
Last Active:
Today at 05:04:44 PM
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Ah, so you have to click on the member to see last active... it's not on the master member list. So Stengar still stops by.
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Ah, so you have to click on the member to see last active... it's not on the master member list. So Stengar still stops by.
Question: I just looked at the master list. It has a column entitled “Position” where some of you have political affiliation. If there is no political affiliation it might say “Moderator” or however many posts you’ve exceeded.
I could have sworn it used to be a field we could change, and that’s how Becky got “Conservative” and Little Joe got “Moderate” and so on. Did that change at some point?
When I go to change my profile there is no longer a field to write “Far left” or “Libertarian” or whatever.
In the members list if you click on “position” at the top of the column it sorts, then click twice and you will see moderate, libertarian, liberal, far left, and conservative on pages 1 and 2, and then one administrator, then all the rest look like automatically filled in based on how many posts you’ve made.
Exception, on the board Anthony and Lucifer say “Moderator” but it’s not in the position column in the member list, it just shows they are over 1500 posts.
I even think I remember we could choose political position and there was a visible right-left bar? Or am I thinking of the yellow boxes?
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I see you found the "personal text" field
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I see you found the "personal text" field
Haha, yeah. I wondered if that was where people had put their political affiliation. I meant to delete it but forgot.
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This is you:
I can't believe this thing is 10 years old
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I can't believe this thing is 10 years old
And we are all 10 years old…er.
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With no one willing to step up and say that they have a leftist mindset, how about us? Is there something that someone here believes that goes against the general mindset of the group?
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With no one willing to step up and say that they have a leftist mindset, how about us? Is there something that someone here believes that goes against the general mindset of the group?
I am Pro Life, but I don't believe I have a right to tell a woman what to do with her body.
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I am Pro Life, but I don't believe I have a right to tell a woman what to do with her body.
^That,
And I am a promoter of environmental protection, just not to the extent the left has taken it. We should be protecting the air, the water and the wildlife because we all like clean air and water. And "wildlife" generally tastes good.
And I am all for a social safety net, just not to the extent that the left has taken it. I have know too many young people (including relatives) that wouldn't get married because they would "Lose their benefits". And there have been reports of women having babies to get extra benefits. So-called "government benefits" should only be used for people that cannot support themselves, and that should be limited to food and shelter and some level of health care. Not free money, cell phones and anything else they crave.
Gays should be allowed to marry whoever the hell they want to, but bakers and florists etc should not be forced to cater to them if it is against their beliefs.
But now that I think about it, there is almost nothing in the liberal platform that I support because they have taken everything too far. We need to bring back personal responsibility and financial stability or we will lose everything.
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Trump on fire today. Charlie’s memorial energized him.
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I'm sure most here are for conservation of resources, but not destroying our standard of living and quality of life over far left lies.
I'm also ok with LGBTxyz doing whatever that makes them what they are, but don't groom children and don't expect special treatment. They should NOT be a protected class.
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With no one willing to step up and say that they have a leftist mindset, how about us? Is there something that someone here believes that goes against the general mindset of the group?
I want to play but have been so busy I haven’t taken the time to think it out. Maybe I’ll take a quick stab.
First, what is the “general mindset of the group”? Anyone lurking here from PoA probably thinks “far right”. Well there are a lot of problems with that. First of all, what leftists call “far right” these days could be anything from center left to extreme right. Or even far left, because what we have now is the far far far far completely whacked left being held out as mainstream normal.
Like making taxpayers pay to cut off healthy teenage breasts, dicks and balls and sterilize them with hormones based solely on a 15 minute visit with a therapist who is literally forbidden to question whether their insistence on being trans could possibly be a mistaken illusion. And don’t forget taxpayer funded trans treatment while in prison and in the military.
How about insisting grown ass men should be allowed to put on a dress and go into ladies rooms with your little daughters? How about gown ass males competing in women’s sports and taking scholarships away from girls?
Or putting illegal aliens up in four star hotels, and giving them monthly debit cards, again at taxpayers expense, while enabling homeless drug addicts to litter the streets with used needles. And of course opening up the borders to any and all third world migrants.
How about teaching our children for 13 years plus college that white people bad and black people victims and that this legacy follows us to infinity and beyond? Let's teach them that European colonialism was 100% bad and there were no good results, like bringing industry, progress and unlimited food supply to much of the globe.
How about teaching them that men are useless and toxic, and women are better off single, childless, and slaving for some faceless corporation all their lives rather than invest in a family. Teach them that humans are evil, a parasite on the planet, so having children and continuing the human species is an evil selfish act.
Because of the aforementioned statement, abortion is virtuous. Any snuffing out of human life is a good thing, as long as that life is not a black convicted criminal, in which case you elevate him to hero status, erect statues of him, and riot in the streets burning and looting black owned small businesses for a whole summer. Be sure to erase from the news cycle the death of an innocent little black girl amidst the rioting. Just collateral damage.
A white criminal is fine, as long as he assassinates, or attempts to assassinate, a Republican or the CEO of a major corporation the left decides it doesn’t like.
Meanwhile you must tear down any statues of white men who might have played a part in establishing the United States, with the excuse that he might have owned a slave, when in reality your real reason is to erase any acknowledgment of the sacrifices made by men who believed in breaking away from aristocratic rule and creating a society empowering the people over the elite.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the crux of the matter. The left is the face of the new authoritarian elite, endeavoring to establish top down control through any means: The very anathema of western civilization.
All of THIS is the current Democratic Party. No wonder none of them want to come here and defend this crap.
As for the mindset of this forum, I can outline my own positions in another post but suffice to say that in general it simply opposes all the insane nonsense outlined above.
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People will fight me for this, but the democrat party IS the party of the elite, totalitarian, racist, cabal, controlling all commerce, activity, thought, and speech.
When John D. Rockefeller demanded public schools churn out WORKERS, not THINKERS, he wanted factory workers, manning (woman-ing) assembly lines, not thinking about the current state of the world. He knew the elite ivy league schools would provide sufficient 'leaders' for the coming generations, and they would all be of the 'right' kind of people.
Now we have that scum bag soros and the klaus scwaub crime syndicate thinking they have the right to own the whole world and allow us to live in it.
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Great post Rush!!!
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Great post Rush!!!
Aww thanks.
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(https://i.imgur.com/5sbhjHW.png)
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Stephen A. Smith is a name being tossed about by the dims as a 2028 candidate.
He's a brash "call it the way I see it" type of guy. Sound familiar? And he does tend to talk common sense on issues.
But here's their problem. He's against the lunatic left's policies and he is his own man. No way this guy would allow blue haired nose ringed poly sexual lunatics to run the WH and use him as a rubber stamp (or auto pen).
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Stephen A. Smith is a name being tossed about by the dims as a 2028 candidate.
He's a brash "call it the way I see it" type of guy. Sound familiar? And he does tend to talk common sense on issues.
But here's their problem. He's against the lunatic left's policies and he is his own man. No way this guy would allow blue haired nose ringed poly sexual lunatics to run the WH and use him as a rubber stamp (or auto pen).
He has come a long way over the last year in his political views. Quite a change.