PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on September 17, 2025, 03:47:29 PM
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This is a serious question for our liberal lurkers. Please explain what the democrat party is offering voters in next years mid terms.
Please explain the party's vision for our country and what they will do to achieve it.
I'm very serious with this request and will ask other posters to allow them to speak up. I would really like to hear the responses.
Thanks.
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I would like to hear that too.
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Me three.
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Prepare yourselves to be bombarded with accusations of racism.
It's pretty much all they have.
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Prepare yourselves to be bombarded with accusations of racism.
It's pretty much all they have.
But I’m giving them a chance to speak up and tell us what we are missing. Campaign 101 says the candidate must have a message that resonates with the voters. That message should be one that is positive and inspiring.
Several of us want to hear that message.
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I was wondering how man liberal lurkers we have. This place isn't much fun for people that take a contrary position.
So I looked at the bottom of the home page and saw almost 400 active users. Almost all of them are listed as "guest". The funny (or not so funny) thing was how many of them are looking at regular member profiles. If I were a "conspiracy theorist", I'd be worried.
Does anyone know what these "guests" are? Web bots? FBI? National Security? POA spies?
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I was wondering how man liberal lurkers we have. This place isn't much fun for people that take a contrary position.
So I looked at the bottom of the home page and saw almost 400 active users. Almost all of them are listed as "guest". The funny (or not so funny) thing was how many of them are looking at regular member profiles. If I were a "conspiracy theorist", I'd be worried.
Does anyone know what these "guests" are? Web bots? FBI? National Security? POA spies?
All of the above but probably mostly bots looking for marketing or propaganda opportunities but we’re not big enough to be of much interest, I assume. I hope.
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I was wondering how man liberal lurkers we have. This place isn't much fun for people that take a contrary position.
So I looked at the bottom of the home page and saw almost 400 active users. Almost all of them are listed as "guest". The funny (or not so funny) thing was how many of them are looking at regular member profiles. If I were a "conspiracy theorist", I'd be worried.
Does anyone know what these "guests" are? Web bots? FBI? National Security? POA spies?
don't know. However, have you tried the same kind of look at other forums you participate in?
edit: Right now, POA has the following online: Total: 1,660 (members: 44, guests: 1,616)
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I suppose it’s plausible that there are hundreds of legit individuals, daily, googling “pilot forums” checking out whatever comes up in the search. I kinda doubt it though.
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I suppose it’s plausible that there are hundreds of legit individuals, daily, googling “pilot forums” checking out whatever comes up in the search. I kinda doubt it though.
If so, they’ll quickly be disappointed here. ;D
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Well Dems? Whatcha got?
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I looked at our member list. We have some 450 members registered but only 45 have more than 100 posts. The vast majority have less than 10. That may mean something, but I have no idea what.
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To be brutally honest this is a political debate board, not a pilot board, because all other pilot boards censored out the political debate with a heavy left leaning bias or just outright banned it. And for whatever reason the left doesn't come by here much, maybe because they get affirmation on all the other boards but get hammered by the right on this one, because this one got squoze to the right by the bias on the left on all the other boards.
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You're right about it being a political debate board. The left can only survive a debate if they ban / censor speech from the right. Here, the left is welcome to debate any and all subjects and let their intellectual arguments stand up against the same on the right. We don't censor or ban anyone. The left hasn't developed the intellectual "thick skin" that we on the right have to survive. Usually, the left is praised and coddled and made all feel good no matter what putrid shit they spew. Their defense to conflicting ideas is not a counter argument, but it is to censor, ban, kill the holder of that conflicting idea. Or to escape to their warm fuzzy enablers.
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Or to escape to their warm fuzzy enablers.
Or their furry ones.
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You're right about it being a political debate board. The left can only survive a debate if they ban / censor speech from the right. Here, the left is welcome to debate any and all subjects and let their intellectual arguments stand up against the same on the right. We don't censor or ban anyone. The left hasn't developed the intellectual "thick skin" that we on the right have to survive. Usually, the left is praised and coddled and made all feel good no matter what putrid shit they spew. Their defense to conflicting ideas is not a counter argument, but it is to censor, ban, kill the holder of that conflicting idea. Or to escape to their warm fuzzy enablers.
The liberals tend to be afraid here because on the other boards they have left leaning moderators to protect them.
But back to the OP of this thread: I would really like to hear from the other side. Tell me why I should cross over, what are you offering?
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You're right about it being a political debate board. The left can only survive a debate if they ban / censor speech from the right. Here, the left is welcome to debate any and all subjects and let their intellectual arguments stand up against the same on the right. We don't censor or ban anyone. The left hasn't developed the intellectual "thick skin" that we on the right have to survive. Usually, the left is praised and coddled and made all feel good no matter what putrid shit they spew. Their defense to conflicting ideas is not a counter argument, but it is to censor, ban, kill the holder of that conflicting idea. Or to escape to their warm fuzzy enablers.
Well said. As well, their main defense is outright lies. Charlie Kirk was countering them.
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The democrat crickets are awfully loud tonight.
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The liberals tend to be afraid here because on the other boards they have left leaning moderators to protect them.
But back to the OP of this thread: I would really like to hear from the other side. Tell me why I should cross over, what are you offering?
I’d like to know too.
But we are left guessing. Here’s what I think they might say:
1. We aren’t orange Hitler.
2. We will defeat the literal Nazi regime in power now.
3. We will forbid policing of inner cities, and allow criminals loose on the streets.
4. We will mandate taxpayer funding of sex change surgery, lifelong hormone therapy, and subsequent multiple followup surgeries and treatments for complications continue with Medicaid, and in the military, and in prisons, for anyone who simply says they’re the other sex, and for children whose parents say they’re “trans”.
5. We will reinstate DEI and double down on making sure straight white men are on the absolute bottom rung of society in every aspect no matter their merit. We will require majority POC representation in every company everywhere in the U.S. even in isolated podunk towns with 90% white populations. Can’t find any POC job applicants to make your company 90% POC? You will be sued into oblivion for “racism”.
6. We will designate MAGA as a domestic terrorist group with the evidence that they blocked the entrance to abortion clinics. We will remove Antifa from the domestic terrorist list and continue to ignore the vandalism, assaults and murders they promote and commit.
7. We will mandate all judges be either angry black women, white leftist Karens, or castrated leftist white male cucks. We will accept unlimited Soros money to make this happen.
8. We will pass federal law mandating universal mail in ballots for all elections, legalize ballot harvesting for any ballots, not just family members, and ban any surveillance of drop boxes.
9. We will arrest, try and convict Elon Musk on made up charges, imprison him for life, and confiscate X, turn it back into Twitter and staff it with deep state goons.
10. We will publicly hang DJT, until almost but not quite dead, let him regain consciousness, then draw and quarter him, video it and play it to kindergarteners for the next 100 years of our utopian reign.
Any lefties lurking and reading this are no doubt fapping furiously right now.
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When I think of the democrat communist party, all i can come up with is that they hate everyone that succeeded on their merit.
The democrat communist party has no real platform. All they are is group of corrupt scum bags, stealing from the taxpayers, claiming that the people who work to pay for all the stuff they give away to stay in office are racist, sexist, bigots, who are nazis, because they think they should be free to think. Do and say what they want.
There is no democracy involved in the modern democrat communist party. The democracy they are about is the purest form of fascism on the planet.
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Oh I forgot:
11. We will throw open the borders and welcome all third worlders, put them up in luxury hotels and give them monthly cash, while ignoring homeless American veterans.
I could go on and on. We will raise the tax rate so high all small businesses will be destroyed, we will ban drilling and fracking, I could do a whole other list on destroying the economy alone.
The bottom line is the left DESPISES Western civilization, and they share that hate with authoritarian fundamentalist Islam. Thus explains “Queers for Palestine”. These forces will join up to defeat Western values and civic structure and after they’re done destroying the U.S. and Europe, Islam will turn on the wacko woke and kill them all.
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to the original request, how the statements at https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/?
(don't for a second think I'm a democrat - I'm just playing devil's advocate)
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Rush,
You left out letting Black Rock buy up all houses so you do own nothing.
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Rush,
You left out letting Black Rock buy up all houses so you do own nothing.
Yep, although a lot is implied under "utopian reign". We all know "utopia" means leftist communist Hell. Where "communist" is defined as elitist fascist tyrranical oligarchic dictatorship or something. Because that's what they all actually are.
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to the original request, how the statements at https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/?
(don't for a second think I'm a democrat - I'm just playing devil's advocate)
That was for the 2024 presidential campaign (which they were confident they would win).
I was wondering what the plan for 2026 mid terms and also the 2028 Presidential election are.
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Or their furry ones.
Lol!
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That was for the 2024 presidential campaign (which they were confident they would win).
I was wondering what the plan for 2026 mid terms and also the 2028 Presidential election are.
yup, I know what it was from.
I doubt their "vision" is any different now.
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to the original request, how the statements at https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/?
Well see, that's the problem. They truly believe that they're helping. That they are building a utopia. That they're doing the right thing. And when it crashes and burns, that they didn't try hard enough. Of course, the power brokers at the top don't care, so long as they get rich and powerful.
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yup, I know what it was from.
I doubt their "vision" is any different now.
The dynamic has changed significantly. People are no longer cowering in fear of cancel culture, and people are no longer afraid to tell the MSM when they are full of it.
The voting blocks have changed significantly. The "blue wall" of battleground states is no more.
The 2024 vision and message failed horribly on an election they thought was in the bag.
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And when it crashes and burns, that they didn't try hard enough.
Also because the evil right fought and obstructed them.
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Well see, that's the problem. They truly believe that they're helping. That they are building a utopia. That they're doing the right thing. And when it crashes and burns, that they didn't try hard enough. Of course, the power brokers at the top don't care, so long as they get rich and powerful.
I see it differently. They know exactly what they are doing. This shit show has been played out over and over in communist countries. They are going along with the new masters in hopes of having a place at the table. The masters smile and nod while their underlings do the dirty work to get them into power. Once power is achieved, there are brick walls everywhere that are used for backdrops of firing squads or long ditches dug to shove the bodies into.
Stalin called them "useful idiots".
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They love to the socialism failed because it didn't go far enough, meaning full blown Communism is what they want.
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The 2024 vision and message failed horribly on an election they thought was in the bag.
what are the odds they will try to double-down?
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what are the odds they will try to double-down?
I'm looking for a dark horse candidate to appear. The current field are all losers. Newsom won't play except to west coast cities.
Look for another Obama type to appear and try the same Obama playbook (play up to white liberals, marketing phrase such as "Hope and Change" and crafted speeches). Of course more promises of "free stuff" to get the low information types in line.
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Well see, that's the problem. They truly believe that they're helping. That they are building a utopia. That they're doing the right thing. And when it crashes and burns, that they didn't try hard enough. Of course, the power brokers at the top don't care, so long as they get rich and powerful.
I see it differently. They know exactly what they are doing. This shit show has been played out over and over in communist countries. They are going along with the new masters in hopes of having a place at the table. The masters smile and nod while their underlings do the dirty work to get them into power. Once power is achieved, there are brick walls everywhere that are used for backdrops of firing squads or long ditches dug to shove the bodies into.
Stalin called them "useful idiots".
Oh yeah there are both types. Some actually believe in the bullshit. They are idealists who can’t comprehend real human nature. Somehow if you ban private property everyone will behave altruistically. And they know nothing of history.
The leaders of the movement are literal psychopaths who indeed know what they’re doing, do it only to elevate themselves, and then will betray all who helped them but are no longer useful.