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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 08, 2025, 08:58:48 AM

Title: Then what?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 08, 2025, 08:58:48 AM
None of the great things President Trump is doing will produce the healthy families, disciplined and virtuous and self-denying individuals, or patriotic and pragmatic people we need to make our country truly great. Much of that must come from, perhaps, the work of Charlie Kirk and a foundation of faith. A long road.

President Trump may lower crime in some areas for a while, but will the criminals just move to other cities and towns? Providing economic prosperity and opportunity may help, but will the lazy, entitled people just entrench and remain so, or will they step up?

I am encouraged about the more secure border and the deportations. But will it be enough for a true renaissance of America to become a place where her citizens love her?

Lots of good things happening, but … how will they hold over time?
Title: Re: Then what?
Post by: Rush on October 08, 2025, 10:25:46 AM
I’m very concerned about that. The “authoritarian” federal cleanup of city hellholes is all fine and good but the problem isn’t fixed unless there’s a permanent change. In a sane world the local law enforcement would want to take over, and would only maybe not have done so yet because of funding, but we have a situation where local leftists actually WANT the crime and disorder and terrorism. It’s evil.

The minute Trump’s federal forces leave it will be back to business as usual. Trump is doing great for what he’s up against but it’s just a start. He cannot fix it all. The best we can hope for is a strong trend against the insane far left and the voters to continue rejecting them.

No, Trump is no Charlie Kirk. I’ve been saying over and over: He is not a conservative. He’s what he has always been, a Democratic leaning businessman. And has always had an interest in the common man, and the working class, which is what traditional Democrats claimed to represent.

But the Democratic Party has flipped itself upside down and now themselves represent Nazis far more literally than the Republicans they accuse of that term, with their support for socialism, authoritarianism, Islamofascists like Hamas, anti-semitism, and racial identity politics, substituting “anyone brown” for “Aryan” as racially superior.

Of course Trump had to leave that party, like so many other sane individuals, and it being a two party system naturally he needed to be Republican to run for president, but he’s not an establishment Republican either. He’s unique. But not perfect, and won’t right this ship completely, but is doing his best to get the process started.

I’m pretty annoyed at the people turning against him because he hasn’t achieved miracles in his few months in office. There is also the risk of a far right backlash, which would be well deserved but not what we want either.

No, Trump won’t and can’t completely bring us back to what we were. We have allowed Marxist ideology to take over major institutions, indoctrinated too many generations into it, and now a large portion of the population cannot be reformed to love America and embrace her values. We have to work on disinfecting those institutions. Trump can’t wave a magic wand by banning DEI at universities for instance. They’ll get around it, still do it, and still teach communism to our kids.

Unfortunately, most of the work is ahead of us and will need to be done long after Trump is gone. He is simply setting a course and giving us a vision, that is all.
Title: Re: Then what?
Post by: Rush on October 08, 2025, 10:54:42 AM
Another thought concerning families, faith and children. Rudyard Lynch has talked about the statistics with respect to those things: Specifically, it is rural people who have higher rates of marriage, tend to be religious, and have more children. As the population leaves the countryside and moves into cities, these things all decay. People lose religion, marry older, have fewer or no children.

I don't see the rural ---> urban trend reversing any time soon and I think it is an uphill battle to get city folks to embrace the values of countryside farmers.

Charlie Kirk's work notwithstanding, I'm not sure we can reverse the trajectory that seems to infect all great civilizations: Great growth and prosperity in the beginning, mass moves to large cities, subsequent moral decay in said cities, reproduction slowdown in the cities, followed by inevitable population decline and replacement by immigrants who dilute the original culture, overgrowth of government bureaucracy and increasing authoritarian control, eventual transformation into an empire rather than a prosperous free society, then the decline of said empire as it hollows out from within and can no longer sustain its far flung reach.

Any of that sound familiar?
Title: Re: Then what?
Post by: Anthony on October 09, 2025, 06:56:57 AM
Hopefully Vance will continue the American Renaissance. The legacy Media, Education, and Hollywood need to be destroyed and rebuilt.
Title: Re: Then what?
Post by: Lucifer on October 09, 2025, 07:54:10 AM
Keep in mind the lunatic left has hijacked the democrat party and want to take it to full communist.   But this group is small in numbers and bolstered by what's left of the MSM to try to get people to believe this is what the majority of Americans want.   It's crumbling before our eyes.

Decades of abuse can't be erased overnight.  It will be a long road to recovery.   We have a large number of citizens that are the silent majority both democrat and republican who are witnessing the absolute horrors of the democrat party and want none of it.   The Cackler is trying to push a narrative of the 2024 elections as "the closest election of the 21st century" which is laughable.   Why?  They (radicals) want you to once again believe that the majority want radicalism.

Thus we are now entering the violence phase of the radical collapse.  It will get worse.  We have real domestic terrorist such as ANTIFA ready to kill to get power back and strike fear into people to support them, or else.  They need to be eradicated and law and order need to reign supreme.  It's happening but slowly.

I'm still not impressed with Bondi.  She put on a good show in front of the senate the other day, but keep in mind that was a PR stunt to make it look like she is doing something.   Nine months in and we've only seen one indictment of the criminals of the left, and that indictment won't make it through the courts.   The recent discovery of Jack Smith obtaining records of senator phone calls (illegally) should make Watergate look like a kindergarten level prank and deserves a Special Prosecutor to investigate and indict these people which will include Garland, Wray and yes, even FJB.  The eight senators are all for lawsuits (read $ettlement$) but these miscreants need prison.  They also need to be thrown in prison (solitary) and held for months, if not years just like what was done to citizens on J6.

Watch carefully who steps up as the successor to DJT.  Any ties whatsoever to the establishment will mean giant leaps backwards.  Also look for the democrat party (what's left of it) to trot out a dark horse much like Bathhouse Barry (it won't be Big Mike).

We have a long way to go.
Title: Re: Then what?
Post by: Rush on October 09, 2025, 11:39:46 AM
Keep in mind the lunatic left has hijacked the democrat party and want to take it to full communist.   But this group is small in numbers and bolstered by what's left of the MSM to try to get people to believe this is what the majority of Americans want.   It's crumbling before our eyes.

Decades of abuse can't be erased overnight.  It will be a long road to recovery.   We have a large number of citizens that are the silent majority both democrat and republican who are witnessing the absolute horrors of the democrat party and want none of it.   The Cackler is trying to push a narrative of the 2024 elections as "the closest election of the 21st century" which is laughable.   Why?  They (radicals) want you to once again believe that the majority want radicalism.

Thus we are now entering the violence phase of the radical collapse.  It will get worse.  We have real domestic terrorist such as ANTIFA ready to kill to get power back and strike fear into people to support them, or else.  They need to be eradicated and law and order need to reign supreme.  It's happening but slowly.

I'm still not impressed with Bondi.  She put on a good show in front of the senate the other day, but keep in mind that was a PR stunt to make it look like she is doing something.   Nine months in and we've only seen one indictment of the criminals of the left, and that indictment won't make it through the courts.   The recent discovery of Jack Smith obtaining records of senator phone calls (illegally) should make Watergate look like a kindergarten level prank and deserves a Special Prosecutor to investigate and indict these people which will include Garland, Wray and yes, even FJB.  The eight senators are all for lawsuits (read $ettlement$) but these miscreants need prison.  They also need to be thrown in prison (solitary) and held for months, if not years just like what was done to citizens on J6.

Watch carefully who steps up as the successor to DJT.  Any ties whatsoever to the establishment will mean giant leaps backwards.  Also look for the democrat party (what's left of it) to trot out a dark horse much like Bathhouse Barry (it won't be Big Mike).

We have a long way to go.

Yes and wasn’t it just a tiny bunch of communist radicals that took over Russia? 
Title: Re: Then what?
Post by: Little Joe on October 09, 2025, 01:49:01 PM
   Nine months in and we've only seen one indictment of the criminals of the left, and that indictment won't make it through the courts.
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We have a long way to go.
Leticia James indicted.
That's one more step on that long journey.
Title: Re: Then what?
Post by: Lucifer on October 09, 2025, 04:57:26 PM
Yes and wasn’t it just a tiny bunch of communist radicals that took over Russia?

 Correct.

 Difference was back then Russia was a huge country with a relative small population scattered.  Very limited "news" sources and if anything did happen, it would take days if not longer for anyone to hear about it.

 By the time the radicals took over most didn't know about it.

  Today we have multiple news sources and "instantaneous" news that can be worldwide within minutes if not seconds.  Thus why the communist despise the internet and want censorship.
Title: Re: Then what?
Post by: Lucifer on October 09, 2025, 04:58:28 PM
Leticia James indicted.
That's one more step on that long journey.

Unfortunately like Comey she won't be convicted.
Title: Re: Then what?
Post by: Little Joe on October 09, 2025, 05:07:01 PM
Unfortunately like Comey she won't be convicted.
sigh.

I suspect you are right.
Title: Re: Then what?
Post by: Username on October 09, 2025, 07:24:56 PM
If enough people buy into the "closest election in history" lie, then it's just one small step away from "Russia helped Trump steal the election" so he's not a legitimate president and all steps are valid for stopping him.  ALL steps.

The left is nuts.  And they are desperate.  And they are dangerous.
Title: Re: Then what?
Post by: Username on October 09, 2025, 07:26:55 PM
sigh.

I suspect you are right.
I suspect so, too.  See all the screaming on the MSM from the usual suspects that this is a political vendetta against Trump's enemies.  "Never before in history has the DOJ been used to go after political opponents."  What a short memory they have.  They should go fuck themselves.  And not in a good way.