PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Little Joe on November 04, 2025, 04:50:12 AM
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From reading many different articles from many different publications, I see a frightening pattern.
It seems to me that Republicans are not taking this vote as seriously as they should. Perhaps that's because there is no vote in my county today (except for one mayor and one city commissioner in the small city of Lake Helen).
It seems to me that Democrats are fired up to vote to show their resistance to anything TRUMP. They don't care who they are voting for as long as it is seen as an anti-Trump. And many of them are going to the polls specifically to show that. That is why I see Mamdani winning. I don't see any similar motivation getting the Trump fans out to the voting booth today. I hope I'm wrong but I see a huge "anti-Trump" election result today. And regardless of how big that is, the MSM is going to amplify it.
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I read it entirely different.
NJ Gov is in play and may go republican. VA Gov is in play but I see the radical winning by a very close margin due to the proximity of DC.
In NYC the communist will win because NYC. They deserve this guy. The radical wing of the democrat party has decided to go full communist in hopes of saving the party.
The Schumer shutdown has dragged democrats deeper in the gutter and has guaranteed AOC she can have Chuck's senate seat next year. The Wicked Witch of the West is retiring (fleeing) and that means Dollar Store Obama will probably not hold on the minority leader in the house.
Bath House Barry has been out campaigning and that is the kiss of death as he has a horrible track record of endorsing anyone. Oh, and Kamala is the gift that keeps giving.
We'll see if NewScum can manipulate the vote in CA so he can redistrict the vote (illegally).
Minneapolis? Write them off as Minnesota is a nutcase radical democrat hell hole with no hope. They too are about to get what they deserve.
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Tell me again how going full communist is going to “save the party?”
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Tell me again how going full communist is going to “save the party?”
kind of like the thinking that giving people handouts helps the poor?
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Tell me again how going full communist is going to “save the party?”
Remember, radicals don't think logically. Their plan all along was to springboard into socialism, then communism. They were attempting to do this behind the scenes, but now that their party is cratering they have ripped off the mask. These nutjobs are convinced "it will work this time".
Just look at their base politicians AOC, Bernie, Omar and Mamdani. The eventual hope is once communism is established and becomes one party rule then it's easy to rule using force. They just have to get to the tipping point. Right now they are starting to use terrorism to achieve their goals.
Make no mistake by tonight NYC will be led by a communist as will Minneapolis. After that more will follow, if we let them.
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And speaking of terrorism
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/live-blog/election-day-2025-nyc-mayor-governor-race-live-updates-rcna241592#rcrd92423
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kind of like the thinking that giving people handouts helps the poor?
You're not wrong, but I think of it more as giving them enough rope. The results will be horrific for all to see, even if the Dems and MSM blame it on greedy Republicans fleeing the City and State.
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Remember, radicals don't think logically. Their plan all along was to springboard into socialism, then communism. They were attempting to do this behind the scenes, but now that their party is cratering they have ripped off the mask. These nutjobs are convinced "it will work this time".
Just look at their base politicians AOC, Bernie, Omar and Mamdani. The eventual hope is once communism is established and becomes one party rule then it's easy to rule using force. They just have to get to the tipping point. Right now they are starting to use terrorism to achieve their goals.
Make no mistake by tonight NYC will be led by a communist as will Minneapolis. After that more will follow, if we let them.
This is why they are highly focused on elections. They NEED the Dems to win, to keep borders open and illegals coming, not only to vote but to beef up representation in Congress. They will fight voter ID tooth and nail. If they get in power again it is all over with.
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kind of like the thinking that giving people handouts helps the poor?
I might use a version of that in my sig somewhere sometime.
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I read it entirely different.
NJ Gov is in play and may go republican. VA Gov is in play but I see the radical winning by a very close margin due to the proximity of DC.
In NYC the communist will win because NYC. They deserve this guy. The radical wing of the democrat party has decided to go full communist in hopes of saving the party.
The Schumer shutdown has dragged democrats deeper in the gutter and has guaranteed AOC she can have Chuck's senate seat next year. The Wicked Witch of the West is retiring (fleeing) and that means Dollar Store Obama will probably not hold on the minority leader in the house.
Bath House Barry has been out campaigning and that is the kiss of death as he has a horrible track record of endorsing anyone. Oh, and Kamala is the gift that keeps giving.
We'll see if NewScum can manipulate the vote in CA so he can redistrict the vote (illegally).
Minneapolis? Write them off as Minnesota is a nutcase radical democrat hell hole with no hope. They too are about to get what they deserve.
All of that might be true. But I saw nothing in there that addressed how highly motivated the Ds are to get out to vote against Trump.
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In NYC the communist will win because NYC. They deserve this guy.
Minneapolis? They too are about to get what they deserve.
True, but when they go bankrupt, it is you and I that will be bailing them out.
After that more will follow, if we let them.
Sadly, also true.
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All of that might be true. But I saw nothing in there that addressed how highly motivated the Ds are to get out to vote against Trump.
Which Dems? That party is so highly fragmented now that the moderate old style Dems aren’t interested in seeing the radicals gain more power and push them out.
The radical Dems aren’t that large of a group. MSM portrays them as the majority but they aren’t.
In NJ people are fed up with high taxes and high energy cost. So far early voting is being dominated by voters identifying as independent. Also the radicals are so afraid of losing NJ they are already dropping bomb threats to scare away voters.
Virginia will have a very close vote due to the proximity to DC.
NYC will have the blue hair nose ring three hundred pound lunatic liberals anxious to put in the radical. Minneapolis is so far gone they will put the stick in office.
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True, but when they go bankrupt, it is you and I that will be bailing them out.
Depends. NYC no longer has the attraction it once did in finance. Wall Street could move to a tax friendly state and no one would notice. Same with the big banks.
NYC doesn’t produce anything. It’s a dying empire.
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kind of like the thinking that giving people handouts helps the poor?
The hand that feeds people can also starve people.
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The democrats are using all the happy fluffy words that appeal to the low information voters. They say that they want:
Abolition of private property
Classless society
Government control
Collective ownership
All that sounds good with everyone being equal, no rich, no poor, everyone happily working for the common good, no property ownership which means no rent, no mortgage, and you can live anywhere you want for free. Yes, that's the democrat end game utopia. But the above is also the definition of communism. And what inevitably happens is a few elite get everything, everyone else gets nothing, the great producers of society get nothing for production and no incentive for innovation so they stop. Then the swift decline into sleeping in filth and eating rats. This is making the movie "Escape from New York" a reality.
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The hand that feeds people can also starve people.
especially after training the poor to be completely dependent on handouts
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The hand that feeds people can also starve people.
If we give poor people enough free stuff, they will work less to keep from losing their benefits.
If we don't give the poor ANYTHING, they will find a way to keep from starving.
And what's the deal with lumping "women" with "children" as in WIC for instance.
Are women innately unable to take care of themselves and need to be taken care of, like children? If I was a woman I'd be offended.
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Yes, that's the democrat end game utopia.
I don't think that is their end game. I think "promising" that is their means to their end.
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Big surprise.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/lesbian-womans-outrage-against-muslim-immigrants-in-the-us-goes-viral-after-pride-parade-ban-says-we-helped-you-settle-now-you-ban-us/articleshow/122384576.cms
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Big surprise.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/lesbian-womans-outrage-against-muslim-immigrants-in-the-us-goes-viral-after-pride-parade-ban-says-we-helped-you-settle-now-you-ban-us/articleshow/122384576.cms
I'm not sure who to stand with on this.
The Lesbian that championed the Muslims?
Or the Muslims that refused to stand with the LGBTQ+ crowd.
I think I'll just stand on the sidelines and let them duke it out in their own little Utopia.
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even a blind squirrel....
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HE IS A LITERAL COMMUNIST!
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https://x.com/ZohranKMamdani/status/1265738795317673988
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HE IS A LITERAL COMMUNIST!
This post was verified by Grok:
https://x.com/ZohranKMamdani/status/1265738795317673988
Yep. The "new" democrat party.
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Three for three scumbags.
soros must be so proud.
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I don't suppose an "I told you so" would be appropriate right now.
But last night went down pretty much exactly as I predicted.
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I don't suppose an "I told you so" would be appropriate right now.
But last night went down pretty much exactly as I predicted.
I thought the republican stood a chance in NJ. But lets look at this for what it is.
These elections were blue states, so is anyone really surprised? The real surprise would have been if a republican would have won.
NJ will start to see an exodus as the new governor will raise taxes even higher. Energy cost are already out of control and she hasn't proposed any way to deal with it except more taxes.
VA gets a radical governor and AG, so their brief intermission is over. Bon Appetite!
NYC get's what the new democrat party wants. This guy will screw up NYC worse than DeBlasio. I look for several financial institutions to abandon NYC for friendlier states. In NYC 2% pay 51% of all taxes and Mamdani has already said he will target them for more.
The real take away from last night is the democrats have solidly embraced socialism and AOC is the new face of the party. Look for the blue shithole states to go even harder radical now.
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The real take away from last night is the democrats have solidly embraced socialism and AOC is the new face of the party. Look for the blue shithole states to go even harder radical now.
And that is the power behind TDS. To the left, NOTHING is more important than their hatred of Trump, And Trump encourages that (from the party that has no room for hate).
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And that is the power behind TDS. To the left, ANYTHING is more important than their hatred of Trump, And Trump encourages that (from the party that has no room for hate).
I don't think so. The left needs a boogie man because their policies are so unpopular (ideas so great they must be mandated). It's actually the radical left that perpetuates TDS in hopes of getting people behind them. So I disagree that "Trump encourages that".
That's all the radical left has left. Name one policy the left has that resonates with voters and actually makes sense for the country. You can't because there isn't one. The Schumer shut down is indicative of that.
BTW last night sealed the fate of Chuck Schumer and opened the door for AOC to oust him next year. Dollar Store Obama will likely get the boot as well.
Fun Times.
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The real lesson from last night is that the party of ‘love’ hates us so. ICU that they are willing to burn their homes to the ground to indulge their hatred.
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Is'nt the real damage Prop 50 in CA?
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Is there ANY good news from yesterday? Even that asshole AG in VA who fantasized about killing kids won.
The NAACP endorsed a white woman over a black woman which Winsome’s win would have been a historic event (first black woman governor). Shows they really aren’t about advancing “colored people” but are about advancing leftist power. Or probably just grafting money at this point.
NJ probably won through cheating (including bomb threats).
Even if Sliwa had dropped out, Mamdani and Cuomo would have been neck and neck, the commie still would probably have won.
No, I do NOT think for one minute New Yorkers will “learn their lesson” and reject socialism after a Mamdani reign.
I think all of this is foreboding.
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Is'nt the real damage Prop 50 in CA?
I look for this to get court challenges. The governor who keeps saying “no kings” has sure taken a role as…….king.
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I look for this to get court challenges. The governor who keeps saying “no kings” has sure taken a role as…….king.
They project exactly what they do. Classic gaslighting, classic abusive behavior and classic psychopathology.
In fact, leftism/socialism/communism is the collective manifestation of narcissistic psychopathology draped in toxic fake empathy.
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Iconic.
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Some good news is that our port commissioner candidate won last night over the sleazy incumbent, so now we have worked on three port races and successfully have made the entire commission pro-aviation and pro-airport.
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I don't think that is their end game. I think "promising" that is their means to their end.
Yep. Their end game is Authoritarian Totalitarian rule. The promise of Utopia is just a means to that end.
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Yep. Their end game is Authoritarian Totalitarian rule. The promise of Utopia is just a means to that end.
And yet the sheep continue to believe their promises. Despite centuries of them not doing what they promise. And that's on both sides. The democrats (and some republicans) are pissed off at Trump simply because he DOES do what he promises.
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I have old friends that live in NYC. Not one, not even the far left one, has posted anything on social media how happy they are over the elections.
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And yet the sheep continue to believe their promises. Despite centuries of them not doing what they promise. And that's on both sides. The democrats (and some republicans) are pissed off at Trump simply because he DOES do what he promises.
It’s because they have no idea about the centuries of failed utopian promises. They weren’t taught it. In fact they were taught the reverse. Marxists have taken over the entire educational system from kindergarten through graduate school.
It’s been two generations now since educational institutions weren’t controlled by leftists.
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Such fucking hypocrites.
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From reading many different articles from many different publications, I see a frightening pattern.
It seems to me that Republicans are not taking this vote as seriously as they should. Perhaps that's because there is no vote in my county today (except for one mayor and one city commissioner in the small city of Lake Helen).
It seems to me that Democrats are fired up to vote to show their resistance to anything TRUMP. They don't care who they are voting for as long as it is seen as an anti-Trump. And many of them are going to the polls specifically to show that. That is why I see Mamdani winning. I don't see any similar motivation getting the Trump fans out to the voting booth today. I hope I'm wrong but I see a huge "anti-Trump" election result today. And regardless of how big that is, the MSM is going to amplify it.
Is anyone willing to say I was right?
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I was right
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I was right
I know this is hard for you to admit, but we were both right.
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From reading many different articles from many different publications, I see a frightening pattern.
That elections are being held in blue states?
It seems to me that Republicans are not taking this vote as seriously as they should. Perhaps that's because there is no vote in my county today (except for one mayor and one city commissioner in the small city of Lake Helen).
Off year elections are difficult for both parties. That's a fact.
It seems to me that Democrats are fired up to vote to show their resistance to anything TRUMP.
It's easy to get fired up for an election where the odds of winning are extremely high. Did you actually believe a republican had a chance in a deep blue city like NYC? Or a state like NJ?
Virginia wasn't going to be close because of the candidate the republicans ran. Sorry, that's just fact. She didn't campaign well.
They don't care who they are voting for as long as it is seen as an anti-Trump. And many of them are going to the polls specifically to show that.
They cared. Spanberger and Sherrill are radicals. Jay Jones is a radical. Mamdani is beyond radical. That's the face of the new democrat party.
That is why I see Mamdani winning.
Mamdani ran in an election where the alternatives were bad. Plus he ran in a city DOMINATED by radical leftist. And he played well to the low information types.
I don't see any similar motivation getting the Trump fans out to the voting booth today.
The lack of motivation is knowing it's a lost cause. That's human nature.
I hope I'm wrong but I see a huge "anti-Trump" election result today. And regardless of how big that is, the MSM is going to amplify it.
They could have run Mickey Mouse and claim it's anti Trump. They live for anti Trump, it's all they got and the radicals love it.
And yes, the MSM is playing it up........and most are ignoring it.
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I predict the next governor of Illinois will be a democrat. I also predict the next mayor of Chicago will also be a democrat.
Oh, and they'll hate Trump.
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1986122518269190638
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I was right
Lol! And don't call me Shirley.
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I know this is hard for you to admit, but we were both right.
um, I think my attempt at humor was missed.
say goodnight, Gracie
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one possible hope we might take away for the odd year election results.... perhaps the republicans will take the mid-term elections seriously.
I know, I know, but sometimes it's good to have some hope.
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um, I think my attempt at humor was missed.
say goodnight, Gracie
Goodnight
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one possible hope we might take away for the odd year election results.... perhaps the republicans will take the mid-term elections seriously.
I know, I know, but sometimes it's good to have some hope.
I believe you might be right. Hopefully, it is a wake-up call.
I think the worst election result was California passing Prop 50. That could add more D representatives and could give them the majority.
I think the BEST election result was Mandani it N.Y. It's not good, but there was not going to be a good result no matter what happened. And hopefully, some people will wake up when they see what happens in NYC.
The rest of the results were pretty much Ds voting for Ds. Big surprise there! But the size and extent were pretty much attributable to TDS. Even Trump said that, but not in those words.
I just hope that some of Trumps actions and policies start to pay off visibly in the next 10 or 11 months or we are toast.
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I believe you might be right. Hopefully, it is a wake-up call.
The Republicans are experts at pulling defeat out of the mouth of victory. I fear that it will not be a wake up call, and democrats running on "not Trump" but with nothing else of substance will take the House and Senate. And then, God help us. This was a very off-year election with democrat wins in mostly democrat areas so it will be easy for Republicans to brush it off as a nothing. They do this at their own peril.
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The RNC is a useless organization. It's primary function is as an election machine for the establishment.
The Trump win of 2024 was driven by MAGA and people within the Trump organization. RNC did little to help but used it to bolster themselves. Take MAGA out of the picture and the RNC will quickly revert to it's establishment self and being happy losers.
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We need Vance to follow Trump and continue MAGA.
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We need Vance to follow Trump and continue MAGA.
I wasn't sure about Vance at first, but I really like him. He is almost as tough as Trump but he is better spoken. And he didn't say "Pussy". A lot of women hate him for that, even if they won't admit it.
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I wasn't sure about Vance at first, but I really like him. He is almost as tough as Trump but he is better spoken. And he didn't say "Pussy". A lot of women hate him for that, even if they won't admit it.
women hate Vance for not saying pussy?
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The RNC is a useless organization. It's primary function is as an election machine for the establishment.
The Trump win of 2024 was driven by MAGA and people within the Trump organization. RNC did little to help but used it to bolster themselves. Take MAGA out of the picture and the RNC will quickly revert to it's establishment self and being happy losers.
Yeah, didn’t it take Lara Trump in the RNC to get them off their asses?
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women hate Vance for not saying pussy?
lol. Yeah, I did sort of mangle that comment, didn't I. But I won't explain what I meant because I assume that (almost) everyone here is smart enough to know what I meant.
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Hispanic vote losses in big numbers … perception that the ICE raids are an attempt to make America more white. And working class tired of old guard Dems.
I’m trying to find some hope that the Trump administration can rid America of illegals and gain fiscal sanity, and have the country be behind them, and keep the godless, commie Dems out of power, not to mention quash the Muslim threat, but it all feels like a dystopian chapter in history that will have to drag out for decades and involve violence.
https://www.aei.org/opportunity-social-mobility/what-i-saw-in-new-yorks-election/
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Hispanic vote losses in big numbers … perception that the ICE raids are an attempt to make America more white. And working class tired of old guard Dems.
I’m trying to find some hope that the Trump administration can rid America of illegals and gain fiscal sanity, and have the country be behind them, and keep the godless, commie Dems out of power, not to mention quash the Muslim threat, but it all feels like a dystopian chapter in history that will have to drag out for decades and involve violence.
https://www.aei.org/opportunity-social-mobility/what-i-saw-in-new-yorks-election/
It's not just the dems we are fighting, it's the DC establishment. The republicans are just as guilty.
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Hispanic vote losses in big numbers … perception that the ICE raids are an attempt to make America more white. And working class tired of old guard Dems.
I’m trying to find some hope that the Trump administration can rid America of illegals and gain fiscal sanity, and have the country be behind them, and keep the godless, commie Dems out of power, not to mention quash the Muslim threat, but it all feels like a dystopian chapter in history that will have to drag out for decades and involve violence.
https://www.aei.org/opportunity-social-mobility/what-i-saw-in-new-yorks-election/
Christ almighty. I was afraid of that. Trump having to try to reverse Biden’s flood of illegals resulting in a perception if not a reality of overdoing it. The cases of inadvertently sweeping up legal residents are not that many but hyped up for propaganda purposes. Most people, whether white, black, Hispanic or something else, aren’t deep thinkers and run on emotion.
Could the Hispanic reversal be local to those blue areas?
Trump’s 2024 win was a battle, not the war, and the war is far from over.
I love most of what Trump is doing but I wish he had a lighter hand sometimes.
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Ironically, we’re also always wishing he’d double down and bring justice faster. But leaders using a “lighter hand” is what got us here.
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Ironically, we’re also always wishing he’d double down and bring justice faster. But leaders using a “lighter hand” is what got us here.
If he’s doing anything bad with ICE it’s Biden’s open border’s fault, full stop. But Trump gets the blame. People so fucking stupid I just can’t anymore.
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If he’s doing anything bad with ICE it’s Biden’s open border’s fault, full stop. But Trump gets the blame.
Democrats so fucking stupid I just can’t anymore.
Fixed that for you.
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Interesting fact, we had a local mayoral race finish with a one vote difference.
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Did anyone notice it takes California DAYS to count the votes after an election, but on prop 50 they called the vote within 2 hours.
Strange how that works.
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Am I the only person who thinks it is suspicious that there were 500k additional votes in NJ Tuesday when they counted?
That is pure democrat bullshit.
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It’s not just that we must have voter ID and paper ballots and no machines … most importantly I think is the requirement to have the counting done and results posted on election night.
It’s beyond unacceptable to drag the counting out for weeks. THAT IS HOW THEY GET THE RESULTS THEY WANT.
In the little county where our port candidate has “won,” they still have 300 votes to count. So technically the race could still go to the sleazy incumbent.
The official county website says they won’t count again (i.e., those 300 ballots) until 11/25/25!
When I looked at the votes by precinct, three precincts were blank, with an asterisk … “*Precincts combined to protect voter privacy.”
What the actual what????
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It’s not just that we must have voter ID and paper ballots and no machines … most importantly I think is the requirement to have the counting done and results posted on election night.
It’s beyond unacceptable to drag the counting out for weeks. THAT IS HOW THEY GET THE RESULTS THEY WANT.
In the little county where our port candidate has “won,” they still have 300 votes to count. So technically the race could still go to the sleazy incumbent.
The official county website says they won’t count again (i.e., those 300 ballots) until 11/25/25!
When I looked at the votes by precinct, three precincts were blank, with an asterisk … “*Precincts combined to protect voter privacy.”
What the actual what????
You are absolutely correct. The delays are for them to "find" the votes they need. It's an absolute abomination of the voting process. But the low information voting types don't care as it's way too difficult for them to understand. Your average low information voter knows little to nothing about government and even less about who they vote for. For them it's more like a high school popularity contest.
The blue shitholes will not get rid of their voting schemes, in fact they will find more creative ways to cheat. The exodus has been underway from blue shitholes to free red states for some time now. This explains the recent NJ governor vote as an estimated 250,000 have already fled oppressive NJ for states like Tennessee, Texas and Florida. As the exodus continues the number of conservatives continue to drop giving more advantage to the radical communist.
In the next few years we will see an even deeper divide between blue shitholes and free red states. The blue shitholes cannot survive without funding from the productive free states and the DC establishment will happily take money from us to give to them.
The blue shitholes have all but wiped out republican representation and will be on a quest for more representatives such as we are seeing in California. Problem with Prop 50 is the constitution is clear that only a state legislature can set the manor of voting. This will go before the USSC.
Finally, if you think the left is deranged now just wait and watch if they can't gain back power in the midterms. They have already resorted to terrorism.
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https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/11/07/something-doesnt-add-up-in-new-jerseys-election-results-n4945717
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I'm shocked that anyone would question the honesty and integrity of the NJ elections.
shocked I tell ya
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You are absolutely correct. The delays are for them to "find" the votes they need. It's an absolute abomination of the voting process. But the low information voting types don't care as it's way too difficult for them to understand. Your average low information voter knows little to nothing about government and even less about who they vote for. For them it's more like a high school popularity contest.
The blue shitholes will not get rid of their voting schemes, in fact they will find more creative ways to cheat. The exodus has been underway from blue shitholes to free red states for some time now. This explains the recent NJ governor vote as an estimated 250,000 have already fled oppressive NJ for states like Tennessee, Texas and Florida. As the exodus continues the number of conservatives continue to drop giving more advantage to the radical communist.
In the next few years we will see an even deeper divide between blue shitholes and free red states. The blue shitholes cannot survive without funding from the productive free states and the DC establishment will happily take money from us to give to them.
The blue shitholes have all but wiped out republican representation and will be on a quest for more representatives such as we are seeing in California. Problem with Prop 50 is the constitution is clear that only a state legislature can set the manor of voting. This will go before the USSC.
Finally, if you think the left is deranged now just wait and watch if they can't gain back power in the midterms. They have already resorted to terrorism.
I used to game with some kids who lived in New Jersey. Lost touch with them when I quit gaming ten years ago. The other day out of the blue I got an email from one of them. He told me he left NJ in 2020 and moved to Texas, then moved to Florida a few months ago. He said the NJ lockdowns was the last straw.