PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on May 08, 2016, 09:07:48 AM
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/kerry-slams-trumps-wall-tells-grads-to-prepare-for-borderless-world/article/2590596
"Many of you were in elementary school when you learned the toughest lesson of all on 9/11," he said. "There are no walls big enough to stop people from anywhere, tens of thousands of miles away, who are determined to take their own lives while they target others."
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I'm of the same generation as Kerry, and I'm sure listened to some of the same songs.
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one.
Hopefully in a few hundred or a few thousand years our offspring will look back on our current insanity and see it as the last, dying gasps of nationalism, much as we look back on tribalism and feudalism as stages that had to be gone through, then discarded.
No matter how closely I look, I don't see any borders...
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/spaceimages_2270_9611552)
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What a stupid argument, John Kerry. If there are no walls big enough to stop terrorists then lets build them!
Walls alone do not stop terrorists, they must be manned, policed, monitored and maintained. Such walls need to be backed up by government policy that punishes violating the wall instead of rewarding those who go around, over, under or just over stay a visa.
Breaking into our country illegally is not 'an act of love' it is a criminal act by a foreigner.
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No matter how closely I look, I don't see any borders...
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/spaceimages_2270_9611552)
I don't see any laws, personal property or natural rights either.
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What a stupid argument, John Kerry. If there are no walls big enough to stop terrorists then lets build them!
Walls alone do not stop terrorists, they must be manned, policed, monitored and maintained. Such walls need to be backed up by government policy that punishes violating the wall instead of rewarding those who go around, over, under or just over stay a visa.
Breaking into our country illegally is not 'an act of love' it is a criminal act by a foreigner.
Agreed.
If Kerry thinks the world is "borderless", then why doesn't he tell us what happens when an illegal alien is caught entering Mexico? This is just another attempt to push radical progressivism. I'm not surprised he'd say something like this.
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I'm of the same generation as Kerry, and I'm sure listened to some of the same songs.
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one.
Hopefully in a few hundred or a few thousand years our offspring will look back on our current insanity and see it as the last, dying gasps of nationalism, much as we look back on tribalism and feudalism as stages that had to be gone through, then discarded.
No matter how closely I look, I don't see any borders...
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/spaceimages_2270_9611552)
Isn't that a good little socialist song?
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Keep in mind, if Hillary becomes President, John Kerry will have a prominant position within the administration.
Keep that in mind.
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Keep in mind, if Hillary becomes President, John Kerry will have a prominant position within the administration.
Keep that in mind.
I will, because Trumpkins like you guaranteed a Hillary presidency.
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Isn't that a good little socialist song?
Don't like that view? Here's an alternate view from space with personal property rights, nationalism and religion fully intact.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B1ao7ut9mNg/VaZvic0byLI/AAAAAAAAMiQ/iCuJQA2J_9Y/w800-h800/gif-2-watch-terminator-5-genisys-trailer-and-motion-poster-51d9a948-6923-4f2b-87e4-fefec0b6f14f.gif)
;)
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Don't like that view? Here's an alternate view from space with personal property rights, nationalism and religion fully intact.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B1ao7ut9mNg/VaZvic0byLI/AAAAAAAAMiQ/iCuJQA2J_9Y/w800-h800/gif-2-watch-terminator-5-genisys-trailer-and-motion-poster-51d9a948-6923-4f2b-87e4-fefec0b6f14f.gif)
;)
Are you saying we should give up personal property, our country and our religious beliefs in the name of preventing nuclear war?
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Don't like that view? Here's an alternate view from space with personal property rights, nationalism and religion fully intact.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B1ao7ut9mNg/VaZvic0byLI/AAAAAAAAMiQ/iCuJQA2J_9Y/w800-h800/gif-2-watch-terminator-5-genisys-trailer-and-motion-poster-51d9a948-6923-4f2b-87e4-fefec0b6f14f.gif)
;)
Okay, now I get it, better to be controlled by Sharia and the Mexican drug cartels than by nukes.
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I will, because Trumpkins like you guaranteed a Hillary presidency.
Hi Pot!
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Hi Pot!
Everyone who doesn't vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for a Hillary presidency.
Has as much logic as Lucifer's repeated assertion.
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I don't see any laws, personal property or natural rights either.
That's the idea.
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Don't like that view? Here's an alternate view from space with personal property rights, nationalism and religion fully intact.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B1ao7ut9mNg/VaZvic0byLI/AAAAAAAAMiQ/iCuJQA2J_9Y/w800-h800/gif-2-watch-terminator-5-genisys-trailer-and-motion-poster-51d9a948-6923-4f2b-87e4-fefec0b6f14f.gif)
;)
I want to fly your Mooney and live in your house. Give me the keys, which will be destroyed along with the matching locks, which are now obsolete.
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Everyone who doesn't vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for a Hillary presidency.
Has as much logic as Lucifer's repeated assertion.
Johnson has no chance of winning, not true for Trump.
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Johnson has no chance of winning, not true for Trump.
Within rounding error, they have the same chance.
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Agreed.
If Kerry thinks the world is "borderless", then why doesn't he tell us what happens when an illegal alien is caught entering Mexico? This is just another attempt to push radical progressivism. I'm not surprised he'd say something like this.
If Kerry likes a border less world, I'd like the addresses to his mansions, and have him tell me where he keeps the key.
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If Kerry likes a border less world, I'd like the addresses to his mansions, and have him tell me where he keeps the key.
No no, you see that's not how it works. A borderless world is for the common people, not the rich and powerful. Just like guns should be banned except for the private security that protects the rich and powerful. I've quoted it before and it's applicable here as well, but Willow has a great quote: "Socialism is for the people, not the socialists".
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The real question in my mind is what percentage of bona fide democrats truly believe Kerry's lunacy.
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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/kerry-slams-trumps-wall-tells-grads-to-prepare-for-borderless-world/article/2590596
That will be the end of civilization.
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I'm of the same generation as Kerry, and I'm sure listened to some of the same songs.
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one.
Hopefully in a few hundred or a few thousand years our offspring will look back on our current insanity and see it as the last, dying gasps of nationalism, much as we look back on tribalism and feudalism as stages that had to be gone through, then discarded.
No matter how closely I look, I don't see any borders...
(http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/spaceimages_2270_9611552)
Hey! No stealing my avatar.
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Hey! No stealing my avatar.
Close.
But not quite.
Hint: As The World Turns!
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Some perspective:
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d1/48/37/d1483764535044d0a9eb48a29d091da1.jpg)
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We can have a borderless world when every country is democratic and world poverty has been erased. Maybe in a few thousand years.
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The US competing in a borderless world is just another way for Democrats to hold onto power by forcing the middle class to compete with cheaper foreign workers and become poorer in the process. The United States is a bubble in relative terms of the world economy. This does not end well for American workers.
We know what happens when bubble pop. In this case, it will mean that many people who have been upwardly mobile will suddenly begin competing against people who do everything for less. I work in consulting today and we see this with firms like Infosys and Cognizant, two companies that get the majority of H-1B visas. These guys undercut our prices to the point they are asking for an hourly rate less than our cost for college graduates. Now never mind that they deliver bad service, that doesn't come around until later and a company can keep doing that for 10-20 years before the market catches on. Never mind that H-1B laws state they must pay a competitive market rate to their employees, that would ruin their operating model.
Extend this out to everyone. An Indian guy will take your job on the assembly line and do it for less. Or if you're "lucky", he'll take your buddy's job and you'll take a pay cut to stay employed. That is the economic result of a borderless world when you are an economic bubble. In the US it will mean a massive jump in poverty families and a lowering average wage. Once indexed for inflation, you should expect to see it decline even more and for that decline to encompass more and more people.
Just remember that it's Democrats that are pushing this on you.
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The US competing in a borderless world is just another way for Democrats to hold onto power by forcing the middle class to compete with cheaper foreign workers and become poorer in the process. The United States is a bubble in relative terms of the world economy. This does not end well for American workers.
We know what happens when bubble pop. In this case, it will mean that many people who have been upwardly mobile will suddenly begin competing against people who do everything for less. I work in consulting today and we see this with firms like Infosys and Cognizant, two companies that get the majority of H-1B visas. These guys undercut our prices to the point they are asking for an hourly rate less than our cost for college graduates. Now never mind that they deliver bad service, that doesn't come around until later and a company can keep doing that for 10-20 years before the market catches on. Never mind that H-1B laws state they must pay a competitive market rate to their employees, that would ruin their operating model.
Extend this out to everyone. An Indian guy will take your job on the assembly line and do it for less. Or if you're "lucky", he'll take your buddy's job and you'll take a pay cut to stay employed. That is the economic result of a borderless world when you are an economic bubble. In the US it will mean a massive jump in poverty families and a lowering average wage. Once indexed for inflation, you should expect to see it decline even more and for that decline to encompass more and more people.
Just remember that it's Democrats that are pushing this on you.
Add in the Wall Street Journal editorial board. When big business and democrats join up philosophically, the American People will get screwed.
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Add in the Wall Street Journal editorial board. When big business and democrats join up philosophically, the American People will get screwed.
Wall Street buys off both parties.
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John Kerry is a idiot. This New World Order, One Global Government, Open Borders crap is their dream of the further consolidation of money and power. Congress doesn't matter anymore, nor do votes as he wants foreign laws to matter here, especially when it comes to the private, legal ownership of firearms.
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Wonder if Kerry's (wife's) estates (plural) have fences and locks on the doors?
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Nevermind
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Wonder if Kerry's (wife's) estates (plural) have fences and locks on the doors?
Of course they do. I've said it before and I'll repeat it because it's true. Andrew Wilkow's line is correct: "Socialism is for the people, not the socialists".
When liberals and progressives talk about gun control or (insert topic here), they mean that it's the American people that need these laws and regulations, not the wealthy and powerful. Because they're wealthy and powerful, they need the protection, the fences and locks.
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I think in a few thousand years the world population will be so out of control that we'll have nothing BUT poverty and war.
Tim
That won't take thousands of years. That's the reality just at the end of this century if we keep going as we are.