PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on December 19, 2025, 06:32:15 PM
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The stupid is very strong in this moron….
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Extremely stupid. And psycho.
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The stupid is very strong in this moron….
Did she really say that? I would like to show that to some people but I'd like a source other than a meme. I can't find one.
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Did she really say that? I would like to show that to some people but I'd like a source other than a meme. I can't find one.
Good point. I’ve seen a huge uptick on social media of lies and made up stuff, including memes but also even videos now with AI getting better and better. Not just politics, everything. It’s to the point you cannot trust a single thing you see these days.
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Did she really say that? I would like to show that to some people but I'd like a source other than a meme. I can't find one.
People post memes of AOC "supposed" quotes all the time. My bet is, this is just another made up quote.
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People post memes of AOC "supposed" quotes all the time. My bet is, this is just another made up quote.
It may be made up. But she says so many stupid things it is possible it's a real quote.
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Grok to the rescue:
No, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) did not say this. The quote in the image appears to be completely fabricated.The text reads:
"Donald Trump's new plan to eliminate the income tax is phobic and clearly designed to only help the employed U.S. citizen"
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Extensive searches for this exact quote, variations of it, or any similar statement from AOC turn up zero credible sources—no interviews, tweets, speeches, or news reports attribute anything like this to her. Fact-checking sites (like Snopes and PolitiFact) have debunked numerous fake AOC quotes and memes in the past, and this fits the pattern of satirical or misleading images that circulate online.
Additionally:
- Trump's recent discussions about potentially reducing or eliminating income taxes (replacing revenue with tariffs) are very new (mostly from late 2025), so any "response" from AOC would be recent—and there's no evidence of one matching this.
- The phrasing is absurdly satirical on its face: calling a tax cut "phobic" (implying discrimination against the unemployed?) while complaining it only helps "employed" people doesn't align with AOC's actual positions, which often focus on supporting workers, raising taxes on the wealthy, and expanding social programs.
This is classic online misinformation—likely a meme meant to mock or troll. AOC has been the target of many such fake quotes over the years. If you see similar images, it's usually safe to assume they're not real unless backed by a verifiable source.
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That being fake is exactly why I don’t trust the right as much as I don’t trust the left. The only caveat is the left uses actual real life violence much more than the right, so that tells you who is more evil.
The other thing is, we don’t know who makes up all this fake stuff. Could be Russian operatives trying to divide the U.S. That was actually the only real proven meddling in the 2016 election by Russia; simple social media propaganda. Trump had nothing to do with it and it wasn’t even to favor Trump; it was just to be divisive.
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So let's appoint a fact checker. Any meme that is posted will have to undergo a review first, and if the fact checker cannot correlate the meme with an actual factual event, the posting will be denied.
Then we can progress to fact checking each and every post. Maybe even start something like a "blue check" program for members.
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So let's appoint a fact checker. Any meme that is posted will have to undergo a review first, and if the fact checker cannot correlate the meme with an actual factual event, the posting will be denied.
Then we can progress to fact checking each and every post. Maybe even start something like a "blue check" program for members.
Did you mean to put this in green font? ;D
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Did you mean to put this in green font? ;D
No.
We need to be inclusive so no one’s feelings get hurt. By fact checking each and every post we’ll guarantee diversity in our forum.
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So let's appoint a fact checker. Any meme that is posted will have to undergo a review first, and if the fact checker cannot correlate the meme with an actual factual event, the posting will be denied.
Then we can progress to fact checking each and every post. Maybe even start something like a "blue check" program for members.
Oooooh. Somebody got their wittle feewings hurt.
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No.
We need to be inclusive so no one’s feelings get hurt. By fact checking each and every post we’ll guarantee diversity in our forum.
I guess you have a point, if we do that, maybe Steingar will come back.
🤣
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Oooooh. Somebody got their wittle feewings hurt.
No. Just putting forth what some want to see here.
IIRC you have advocated for moderation in the past. So what’s wrong with my proposal?
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No. Just putting forth what some want to see here.
IIRC you have advocated for moderation in the past. So what’s wrong with my proposal?
IIRC, I only advocated for moderation in the case of some asshole doxing #7. I thought that was an extreme case bordering on illegal and could have actually resulted in harm to #7.
Besides, I wasn't objecting to your proposal, although I would have it that was the topic. I was commenting on how you took offense to someone pointing out that your post was false. I only asked for a source so I could show it to others because I actually thought it might be true.
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Well if she didn’t say it she might as well have.
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We'll probably need to lock this thread for moderator review..
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Wait, is this poa?
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Wait, is this poa?
Nope.
No pussies whining about their feelings being hurted.
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I'm offended by the thought of moderation. This thread should be locked.
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The only moderation I advocate for is spam and bot spam. You could argue for not allowing doxxing but in a decade there’s only been one incident as I recall.
The only other thing you could make an argument for is violent threats or terroristic threats, and those are illegal anyway so what’s the point of making them a forum rule? I don’t recall ever seeing any post that was in those categories.
I can’t even find anywhere on this forum where “rules of behavior” are posted. Yet the members in the ten years it’s been live have virtually completely behaved ourselves wrt the only bad behavior listed above that I could make an argument for moderating. Therefore I say we don’t need to, because: We are sane adults who self-regulate. Imagine that!
As for posting stuff that turns out to be false, any moderation whatsoever for the purpose of verifying authenticity, fact-checking, or controlling “misinformation” opens the door to censorship, as there is no possibility of avoiding some moderator bias, if for no other reason there is no such thing as a completely objective fact checker. Even if the moderator thinks themselves unbiased, he can’t say the same for his “fact-checking” sources.
For example, my Grok post; Grok says AOC is supportive of workers. While Grok is designed to be as truth-seeking as possible, it still suffers from the bias in all the internet it must use for sources. AOC is not the least supportive of workers; she is a narcissistic, attention-seeking whore, psychopathic twat that cares only about glorifying herself while destroying America. If that exact quote is inaccurate, it does summarize her contempt for the common worker, and that is the point of memes whether technically correct or not.
Nope. Total free speech is the only way (excepting spam bots and criminal threats). It’s up to the reader to accept or reject a post for truth. That’s the only way to actually protect truth, because it leaves all pathways open for discussion.
Edited to remove quote from Lucifer because I thought I was responding in general and my browser picked up that post; Luci refers to “you” which isn’t me but was Little Joe if I recall, so wanted to avoid any misunderstanding.
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We could do moderation like the pilots place, where we say "play nice" is the only rule, yet the moderate determines what is playing nice or not using his own ideology to guide him.
Remember, we must regard the feelings of everyone for inclusion. Diversity is our strength.
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We could do moderation like the pilots place, where we say "play nice" is the only rule, yet the moderate determines what is playing nice or not using his own ideology to guide him.
Remember, we must regard the feelings of everyone for inclusion. Diversity is our strength.
We need to start requiring pronouns in our profile.
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We need to start requiring pronouns in our profile.
Agreed. We must respect the feelings of others. Misgendering should be considered a crime.
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Agreed. We must respect the feelings of others. Misgendering should be considered a crime.
Misgendering is literal violence. It’s genocide.
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I'm sorry but I don't see where all this talk of moderation is coming from.
From my perspective:
Lucifer posted a meme that I thought was interesting and provocative, so I asked for a source to show to some liberals I know.
Someone else posted that Grok said it was not true. (That in itself is not proof that it was not true).
Lucifer got his panties in a wad and start ranting about moderation. And continues to throw out little tantrum posts.
Is it moderation for one user to point out that another user posted something that was not true? Not in my book.
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I'm sorry but I don't see where all this talk of moderation is coming from.
From my perspective:
Lucifer posted a meme that I thought was interesting and provocative, so I asked for a source to show to some liberals I know.
Someone else posted that Grok said it was not true. (That in itself is not proof that it was not true).
Lucifer got his panties in a wad and start ranting about moderation. And continues to throw out little tantrum posts.
Is it moderation for one user to point out that another user posted something that was not true? Not in my book.
Tantrum? Panties in a wad? LOL!
Back to moderation, would you not agree with moderation (such as practiced at TPP) more of the liberals would feel inclined to post? You have said many times in the past that you felt liberals were mistreated here and that's why they don't post. With that in mind, you should be onboard with moderation, except we'll do like TPP and cloak it as "play nice".
I think we need new moderators as well. Maybe Azure would be interested? Steingar? Maybe even you Joe?