PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Little Joe on January 06, 2026, 05:51:07 AM
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Does anyone think Trumps talk of annexing (by force if necessary) or decapitating any other countries, like the ones in the title, is real? Is the MSM just making this stuff up?
What would you make of it if he did it by force? I'm good with Venezuela, and I wouldn't have a problem with Cuba, but I don't want to see him take over Canada or Greenland. That would be absurd. Even just talking about it feels bizarre.
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I'm not sure he would want to do any of it Enough things here at home to focus on. They need to get a functioning government working in Venezuela that can clean out the military and get things back on track. I'd like to see the oil companies invited back in to take over the oil business.
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I'm not sure he would want to do any of it Enough things here at home to focus on. They need to get a functioning government working in Venezuela that can clean out the military and get things back on track. I'd like to see the oil companies invited back in to take over the oil business.
As far as I know we wouldn't have the justification (other than "because we can") to take over Canada and Greenland, although both need to be watched closely for growing influence by China. China is already getting footholds in Canada and afaik it's only a potential in Greenland right now but Greenland is strategically positioned around what presumably is going to be more open shipping lanes as (if) global warming continues.
But the other thing is the mineral potential. Trump is being very prescient. He is well aware we are very dependent on globally sourced raw materials and cannot allow our enemies to control too many of them, certainly in our own hemisphere. That is really the bottom line wtih all of this. Getting Maduro is less about sending Fentanyl into the U.S. and more about what's more basic: Keeping access to resources. Oil in the case of Venezuela.
Potash in the case of Canada. Nobody ever talks about potash. Do you like to eat food? Guess what potash is? A major component of fertilizer and we get most of ours from Canada. They have vast amounts of it while we only produce a fraction of what we need. Let's say hypothetically Canada makes a deal to sell all its potash to China instead of us. Then we might have to take over Canada. That is very unlikely, but not something we should laugh at as if it could never happen.
It's not just keeping our access to resources, it's also about keeping our enemies from having too much access and/or controlling the supply. Trump has an instinct for this which maybe comes from his decades of constructing real life things as opposed to most politicians who have done butt fuck nothing in meatspace.
One of the problems with some MAGA supporters is they assumed Trump would be isolationist. He never promised that. And we literally cannot be any such thing. He promised to bring some manufacturing back to our shores. That's not the same as isolationism; we are still dependent on foreigh trade for components and raw materials. He promised not to entangle us in war and so far he's kept that promise. These short military actions are NOT war. They are pro-active and necessary moves TO put American interests first, unlike what most of our former presidents have been doing.
What did I forget? Oh, Cuba. We import nothing of significance from Cuba, so our interest there is entirely if it is being used as a foothold for our enemies which is what the whole Cuban missile crisis was about. It seems that's been mostly contained as far as I know with Cuba only giving moral support to our enemies, like Maduro up until a few days ago. So I don't see justification to rock that boat at the moment. Unless the CIA knows something I don't.
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Does anyone think Trumps talk of annexing (by force if necessary) or decapitating any other countries, like the ones in the title, is real? Is the MSM just making this stuff up?
What would you make of it if he did it by force? I'm good with Venezuela, and I wouldn't have a problem with Cuba, but I don't want to see him take over Canada or Greenland. That would be absurd. Even just talking about it feels bizarre.
Working as intended. Trump brilliantly uses these outrageous insinuations to keep everyone off balance. Then he demonstrates that they are not all empty threats. The bombing of Iran and now Maduro proves he is willing to act on them. Nobody knows what he might do next. Or maybe he’ll do nothing, but our adversaries get the message. Extremely effective world leadership.
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Greenland is and always has been a strategic goldmine for America.
Denmark is just an occupying overlord and I couldn’t care less what their pussy leadership wants, or says.
Putin is very nervous about the US making Greenland a possession because it enlarges our reach and defensive capability, something communists and democrats (here I am repeating myself) are afraid of.
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I'd be quite OK with the USA annexing Greenland and Cuba as US territories.
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I'd be quite OK with the USA annexing Greenland and Cuba as US territories.
Cuba? Fine. I'm good with that.
Greenland? I don't know. Rush gave some good points, but I would need more convincing.
Canada? I can't imagine any circumstance that could justify using force for that. I would much rather convince them that a merger with us is a good idea. If we could make them a State (or a dozen States) like the original idea of "United" States described, they might join willingly. But our Federal government has taken almost all of the "States rights" away. If I were Canada, I probably wouldn't join us as a State either.
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we have enough problems with parts of the US, we don't need to subject the people of Canada, Greenland, or Cuba to those idiots.
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Greenland is and always has been a strategic goldmine for America.
Denmark is just an occupying overlord and I couldn’t care less what their pussy leadership wants, or says.
Putin is very nervous about the US making Greenland a possession because it enlarges our reach and defensive capability, something communists and democrats (here I am repeating myself) are afraid of.
It's interesting how the Democrats are ALWAYS against anything that increases the power, security or prosperity of America.
Trump needs to drop a Delta Force into Denmark in the middle of the night, wake up Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen and give her some "persuasion" about selling us Greenland for a very good price. Make an offer she can't refuse.
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Cuba? Fine. I'm good with that.
Greenland? I don't know. Rush gave some good points, but I would need more convincing.
Canada? I can't imagine any circumstance that could justify using force for that. I would much rather convince them that a merger with us is a good idea. If we could make them a State (or a dozen States) like the original idea of "United" States described, they might join willingly. But our Federal government has taken almost all of the "States rights" away. If I were Canada, I probably wouldn't join us as a State either.
Honestly as long as Canada doesn't get run over by some other demographic (Chinese or Islamic immigrants) we are good. We bicker like siblings but are "family" on the North American continent and tightly entertwined in trade. We'll be okay.
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Honestly as long as Canada doesn't get run over by some other demographic (Chinese or Islamic immigrants) we are good. We bicker like siblings but are "family" on the North American continent and tightly entertwined in trade. We'll be okay.
Give it 3-5 years.
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Could we not take on Venezuela as a possession or whatever it's called?
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Holy shit!
https://x.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/2009805015892783616
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Well, that's nothing new. It's been obvious to anyone paying attention from the beginning that either of us, Russia, or China WILL take Greenland. Denmark can't defend it, and Greenland certainly can't defend itself. If we take Greenland, it's a win-win-win: We get the strategic location and the minerals, Greenlanders become wealthy, and Denmark no longer has to subsidize it. And we cannot allow China or Russia to have that advantage. Trump just finally said it out loud.
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Hat fucking Delaware state vegetable would give it to china like carter did panama.
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Well, that's nothing new. It's been obvious to anyone paying attention from the beginning that either of us, Russia, or China WILL take Greenland. Denmark can't defend it, and Greenland certainly can't defend itself. If we take Greenland, it's a win-win-win: We get the strategic location and the minerals, Greenlanders become wealthy, and Denmark no longer has to subsidize it. And we cannot allow China or Russia to have that advantage. Trump just finally said it out loud.
Right! That’s the Holy Shit part. And he’s actually moving on it. I hope it happens.
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He must know something we don't. Powerful statement.
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He must know something we don't. Powerful statement.
Didn’t Rubio just meet with Denmark? I bet he made an offer that will be hard for them to refuse. They just need to go through the formalities of getting their parliament and their royal figurehead to sign off on the paperwork.
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Here is a good history of why Denmark has Greenland.
https://x.com/topazzcrapazz/status/2010385585027035616
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This sells me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nRf98vPvM8
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Liberals are so shallow and stupid that they automatically hate anything good and wrap their psychotic arms around everything evil… without questioning anything they do, or say.
It is a special kind of mental illness.
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Matt Walsh is catching a lot of shit over this. I have to admit it took me aback a bit myself, but it’s not April 1 so I assume he is serious.
He is of course absolutely correct. Expanding is what empires do; invading and taking land from others is what humans do, always have. And now all of a sudden the U.S. is supposed to abide by some non-existent new decree that humans aren’t supposed do that anymore? Russia’s trying it. China’s planning it. But we, the U.S., are better than that. We are morally superior.
When you look at it that way it starts to feel stupid. Everybody else can do it but we can’t?
In our case there is plenty of legal justification in the Monroe doctrine, which the entire world benefits from, through the U.S.’s control of the high seas. If we need Greenland to keep that dominance we should take it.
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Trump could just be playing with Russia and China also, to get them to show their hands first
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Trump could just be playing with Russia and China also, to get them to show their hands first
I hope he’s not teasing. Now I’m starting to want Greenland.
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From comments section on Coffee and Covid …
“Russia or China is going to occupy Greenland if we don't." That was Trump's final sentence in the Fox clip.
Can anyone out there explain to me why Russia or China hasn't already done this? It would have been easy throughout the Biden presidency -- Especially for China, since they weren't bogged down in Ukraine like Russia was.
Sorry, but I can't take a comment like that at face value without questioning the underlying assumptions. Sure Greenland would be a desirable strategic outpost - I'm not arguing that point. But the presidents in recent memory have been pretty damned China-friendly, and considering how weak the US was under the Cabbage, why not then? The largest atmospheric hydrogen bomb test ever was detonated closer to Greenland than the US is - how is it that the Russians haven't set up camp there already?
Also -- "we don't want Russia or China as a neighbor" -- Trump was just in Alaska meeting with Putin a few months back - surely he realizes that Russia is ALREADY a close neighbor, at least in the Bering sea...
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From comments section on Coffee and Covid …
“Russia or China is going to occupy Greenland if we don't." That was Trump's final sentence in the Fox clip.
Can anyone out there explain to me why Russia or China hasn't already done this? It would have been easy throughout the Biden presidency -- Especially for China, since they weren't bogged down in Ukraine like Russia was.
Sorry, but I can't take a comment like that at face value without questioning the underlying assumptions. Sure Greenland would be a desirable strategic outpost - I'm not arguing that point. But the presidents in recent memory have been pretty damned China-friendly, and considering how weak the US was under the Cabbage, why not then? The largest atmospheric hydrogen bomb test ever was detonated closer to Greenland than the US is - how is it that the Russians haven't set up camp there already?
Also -- "we don't want Russia or China as a neighbor" -- Trump was just in Alaska meeting with Putin a few months back - surely he realizes that Russia is ALREADY a close neighbor, at least in the Bering sea...
They haven’t because NATO. Denmark is a member. Also neither really has the military stretch right now to attempt it. So yeah Trump is being hyperbolic or maybe referring to commercial interests, which may well occur in the near future, I think maybe China is already trying to invest in rare earth mining there?
Yeah I cringed a bit when he said that too. We’re friends with them but don’t want them as a neighbor? Sounds contradictory and dickish. But he's referring to the Monroe doctrine again.
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They haven’t because NATO. Denmark is a member.
Look for that to go away. Alliances come and go. Countries become allies when it's mutually beneficial. When the benefit is no longer there, they drift apart.
I think Trump has already given up on Europe (and by that I mean old Europe). We certainly don't have much in common with them anymore and they provide very little benefit, so why continue the alliance?
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The EU is a toxic sickness for Europe.
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Look for that to go away. Alliances come and go. Countries become allies when it's mutually beneficial. When the benefit is no longer there, they drift apart.
I think Trump has already given up on Europe (and by that I mean old Europe). We certainly don't have much in common with them anymore and they provide very little benefit, so why continue the alliance?
NATO was created to deter Soviet Russia. It should have dissolved when the USSR did but it did not and likely will not. No member has ever left and in fact it has recently gained members.
There are possible pathways going forward:
1. Remain as is, keeping the simmering resentment of Putin going because of encroachment “too close” to Russia.
2. Dissolve and lose the deterrence it actually seems to provide against both Russia and China as well as likely other would be upstarts.
3. Admit Russia into it! Brilliant, and blocked by the deep state. It would permanently insure against China ever being a serious threat, stop Russia’s paranoia about NATO being a threat, and lubricate trade relations between Russia and the West.
Number 3 makes too much sense for the war loving deep state. Portraying the USSR as an existential threat all during the Cold War, then extending that to any communists (China, NK) fueled profitable warmongering without winning (unlike WW2). Why win when you can just drag it out? Ain’t that fun?
Number 2 ain’t gonna happen any time soon so we’re stuck with 1, status quo. But the monkey wrench is this: When Europe completes its transformation into an Islamic Theocracy, NATO will be under their purview. I mean I guess the U.S. can pull out at that point, at least until we too become a caliphate.
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Number 2 ain’t gonna happen any time soon so we’re stuck with 1, status quo. But the monkey wrench is this: When Europe completes its transformation into an Islamic Theocracy, NATO will be under their purview. I mean I guess the U.S. can pull out at that point, at least until we too become a caliphate.
Maybe it will.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/01/french-lawmakers-submit-resolution-begin-nato-withdrawal-process/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/01/french-lawmakers-submit-resolution-begin-nato-withdrawal-process/)
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Maybe it will.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/01/french-lawmakers-submit-resolution-begin-nato-withdrawal-process/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2026/01/french-lawmakers-submit-resolution-begin-nato-withdrawal-process/)
Lol! France has done that before (withdrawn from the integrated military command) but without full political withdrawal. They eventually rejoined.
If France wants to allow their TDS suffering commie far left wing to take over and do this I guess we’ll be happy not to have to save their ass for a third time when the next big one pops off.
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I have some French rifles from WW2. Never fired and only dropped once.......
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Lol! France has done that before (withdrawn from the integrated military command) but without full political withdrawal. They eventually rejoined.
If France wants to allow their TDS suffering commie far left wing to take over and do this I guess we’ll be happy not to have to save their ass for a third time when the next big one pops off.
France, the UK, and in large part Germany have already surrendered to the African invasion. There's nothing left for NATO to protect.
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France, the UK, and in large part Germany have already surrendered to the African invasion. There's nothing left for NATO to protect.
This is a HUGE problem. (And will be for us too in the not too distant future). Let’s say the European nations wise up and slam shut their borders. No more African, Indian or Middle Eastern immigrants, period, none, nada, nichts, nyet, zero, zilch.
This won’t save them. Nations need people and the whites aren’t making them anymore, not enough to replace themselves. The Asians are even worse. At this rate we won’t have any Japanese or Koreans left at all in a few generations and China won’t be far behind.
Like it or not, racist or not to point it out, the white man brought us modern industrialized civilization. And in doing so sowed the seeds of his own extinction, apparently. And we exported it to east Asia by welcoming them into prosperity. India will follow, Russia is already deep into the collapse.
The lone holdout will be Africa. Ironically the very thing that kept them primitive and backwards all this time may end up being their salvation: The geography. That continent is designed (by Divine intention or not) specifically to deny any kind of easy participation in the global web that brought everybody else modern prosperity. And prosperity is what crashes reproduction.
So the human race may end up resetting all the way back to our African origin again, with nobody left but a few jungle tribes, who might after a few hundred thousand years venture out to the rest of the world again only to repeat the cycle. Maybe it’s already happened several times over already. 🤣
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So the human race may end up resetting all the way back to our African origin again, with nobody left but a few jungle tribes, who might after a few hundred thousand years venture out to the rest of the world again only to repeat the cycle. Maybe it’s already happened several times over already. 🤣
If you haven't read it, I strongly recommend "Nightfall" by Isaac Asimov. It's a pretty great foreshadowing of what's in store for us if the uncivilized keep invading.
"Nightfall" is a classic 1941 science fiction short story by Isaac Asimov about a planet, Kalgash, with six suns that has never experienced true darkness, leading to a civilization that has never developed a concept of night or fear of the dark. When a rare astronomical event causes all six suns to set simultaneously, plunging the world into darkness for the first time in millennia, the inhabitants descend into madness, and their civilization collapses, only to begin the cycle anew.
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If you haven't read it, I strongly recommend "Nightfall" by Isaac Asimov. It's a pretty great foreshadowing of what's in store for us if the uncivilized keep invading.
"Nightfall" is a classic 1941 science fiction short story by Isaac Asimov about a planet, Kalgash, with six suns that has never experienced true darkness, leading to a civilization that has never developed a concept of night or fear of the dark. When a rare astronomical event causes all six suns to set simultaneously, plunging the world into darkness for the first time in millennia, the inhabitants descend into madness, and their civilization collapses, only to begin the cycle anew.
That sounds fascinating and vaguely familiar, and exactly the kind of thing I would have read when young. Can’t recall if I did, I read a lot of Sci-Fi back then.
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That sounds fascinating and vaguely familiar, and exactly the kind of thing I would have read when young. Can’t recall if I did, I read a lot of Sci-Fi back then.
I'd be surprised if you didn't read it. One of the more famous asimov books.
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This guy is hilarious. He breaks down international relations into stupid simple human basics.
https://x.com/MonotoneMustang/status/2011936703674544564