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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on May 09, 2016, 06:33:21 PM

Title: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: Lucifer on May 09, 2016, 06:33:21 PM
http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/who-promoted-private-ryan/

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Forty-eight hours after Donald Trump wrapped up the Republican nomination with a smashing victory in the Indiana primary, House Speaker Paul Ryan announced that he could not yet support Trump.

In millennial teen-talk, Ryan told CNN’s Jake Tapper, “I’m just not ready to do that at this point. I’m not there right now.”   
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: Number7 on May 09, 2016, 07:05:00 PM
48 hours is about all it took for Paul Ryan to cave to Barack Obama's budget and screw everybody, so who cares who he supports other than liberal republicans?
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: nddons on May 09, 2016, 07:20:14 PM
My God, I haven't seen panties get into a wad this bad since the Bears beat the Packers at Lambeau Field last Thanksgiving.

Ryan didn't kiss Trump's ring. Boo hoo.

Ryan didn't say anything wrong. Trump bears the burden of uniting the party, and he's not going to do that by shitting on the Conservative wing of the party.

Ryan is responsible to his constituents (who's district voted for Cruz) and the Republican party. Getting on the same page as Trump is not a one-sided exercise.

If you guys aren't going to make Trump act at least somewhat like a Republican, then someone has to.
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: LevelWing on May 09, 2016, 07:24:57 PM
My God, I haven't seen panties get into a wad this bad since the Bears beat the Packers at Lambeau Field last Thanksgiving.
That's still a sore subject.  >:(

Ryan didn't kiss Trump's ring. Boo hoo.

Ryan didn't say anything wrong. Trump bears the burden of uniting the party, and he's not going to do that by shitting on the Conservative wing of the party.
I agree with both of these points. However, I would say that Ryan is one of the last people to be complaining about Trump not being conservative enough.

Ryan is responsible to his constituents (who's district voted for Cruz) and the Republican party. Getting on the same page as Trump is not a one-sided exercise.
I figured his re-election had something to do with this. He has to be seen as being conservative since he's in a district that voted for Cruz if he wants to retain his seat.
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: Lucifer on May 09, 2016, 07:28:33 PM

Ryan is responsible to his constituents (who's district voted for Cruz) and the Republican party.


But yet he gets 80+% of his campaign contributions from inside the DC beltway.  Are his constituents in his Wisconson district or are they the lobbyist in DC?
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: nddons on May 09, 2016, 07:49:13 PM
But yet he gets 80+% of his campaign contributions from inside the DC beltway.  Are his constituents in his Wisconson district or are they the lobbyist in DC?
I don't know. Do you think this has ANYTHING to do with the fact that he's Speaker of the House?  Not everyone is a billionaire who can self fund their elections.
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: Lucifer on May 09, 2016, 08:00:24 PM
I don't know. Do you think this has ANYTHING to do with the fact that he's Speaker of the House?  Not everyone is a billionaire who can self fund their elections.

Yes, he is the Speaker, but he is also a congressman that represents a district. Thats still a startling number with everything considered.

 Buchanan makes several interesting points in his article. I thought it was a good read.
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: Mase on May 09, 2016, 08:50:37 PM
Ryan, like all Congresscritters, can get his money from anywhere, but he can only get votes from his district.
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: Lucifer on May 10, 2016, 05:15:37 AM
He's gonna be spending lots of money on votes this time around.
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: JeffDG on May 10, 2016, 05:19:05 AM
I don't know. Do you think this has ANYTHING to do with the fact that he's Speaker of the House?  Not everyone is a billionaire who can pretend to self fund their elections.
Trump is not self-funding.  That's just another of his false claims that the Trumpkins like to spout off about.
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: acrogimp on May 10, 2016, 07:09:54 AM
Personally, I am far more troubled by Ryan's Speakership to-date than whether or not he openly supports his party's presumed nominee for President.

I had very high hopes for Ryan as Speaker yet he has, so far, failed to lead in a meaningful way or to provide any effective opposition to the Obama agenda.

I truly don't understand what happens to these guys other than to come to the disappointing realization that any politician will apparently say whatever it takes to get elected, and will then do whatever it takes to stay there.

I'd like to support a Ryan Speakership, I really would, but I don't like what I have seen so far.

It is disappointing to me that Ryan allowed a gotcha question like this to trip him up and create all the chaos we are seeing, he could have managed an answer that was not so easily used to add to the stress in the party but apparently chose not to.

Funny how everyone was all for this support the candidate whoever it might be pledge bullshit when it seemd like a way to attack/damage Trump but now that he is the presumptive candidate the very folks who pushed for it are welching.

'Gimp
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: LevelWing on May 10, 2016, 07:22:00 AM
Funny how everyone was all for this support the candidate whoever it might be pledge bullshit when it seemd like a way to attack/damage Trump but now that he is the presumptive candidate the very folks who pushed for it are welching.
Pledging to support the eventual nominee is typical on both sides in every campaign. I think this time around the emphasis was on getting Trump to support the eventual nominee because they didn't want him to go third party and take votes away from whomever the nominee would be.
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: JeffDG on May 10, 2016, 07:38:54 AM
Funny how everyone was all for this support the candidate whoever it might be pledge bullshit when it seemd like a way to attack/damage Trump but now that he is the presumptive candidate the very folks who pushed for it are welching.
I've not taken any such pledge, and neither has Rep Ryan. 


He has no duty to support the party nominee.  People putting country ahead of party is very refreshing.
Title: Re: Who Promoted Private Ryan?
Post by: Little Joe on May 10, 2016, 08:16:44 AM

Funny how everyone was all for this support the candidate whoever it might be pledge bullshit when it seemd like a way to attack/damage Trump but now that he is the presumptive candidate the very folks who pushed for it are welching.

'Gimp
Absolutely true.  But watch the squirming that is about to come as people try to spin this away.

edit:  I see I was too late.  The squirming has already started.
Trump was the only one that attempted to answer the question honestly.