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Title: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: Bob Noel on June 07, 2016, 05:09:08 AM

(images on the frontpage of the Boston Herald are not safe for viewing on a weak stomach)

http://www.bostonherald.com

Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 07, 2016, 05:15:48 AM
Media trying to bend the outcome of today's final primaries in hopes of salvaging CA for Hillary.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: Bob Noel on June 07, 2016, 05:46:31 AM
Media trying to bend the outcome of today's final primaries in hopes of salvaging CA for Hillary.

well, not every newpaper is in the bag for the corrupt doormat.  The Boston Herald can hardly be called a liberal rag.

The Boston Herald frontpage picture of the corrupt doormat is quite unflattering, even for her.  I'm confident that Boston's DNC mouthpiece (the boston globe) will be gushing about the corrupt doormat with heavily photoshopped pictures.

Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: LevelWing on June 07, 2016, 06:58:23 AM
It was going to happen. I wonder if anything changes if Sanders wins California? Now would be a great time for the FBI to recommend an indictment. Actually, anytime would be.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: Dav8or on June 07, 2016, 01:10:52 PM
It was going to happen. I wonder if anything changes if Sanders wins California? Now would be a great time for the FBI to recommend an indictment. Actually, anytime would be.

That fantasy will never come true. Nothing will happen to her prior to the elections. If she wins, nothing will happen to her ever. If she loses, she may get a stern warning, or hand slap after the election, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: LevelWing on June 07, 2016, 02:01:07 PM
That fantasy will never come true. Nothing will happen to her prior to the elections. If she wins, nothing will happen to her ever. If she loses, she may get a stern warning, or hand slap after the election, but I doubt it.
We'll see. The way the FBI has been conducting this investigation, at least from what we know about it, leads me to believe that they will recommend charges against her. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that she did in fact violate the law. If she doesn't get indicted I think there may be a backlash from the FBI and the public. It would be great to see her step down from the race, before or after becoming the official nominee, and watching the Democrats scramble at the last minute. I don't see that happening though.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: Mase on June 07, 2016, 02:08:07 PM
That fantasy will never come true. Nothing will happen to her prior to the elections. If she wins, nothing will happen to her ever. If she loses, she may get a stern warning, or hand slap after the election, but I doubt it.

Obama will stifle any indictment.  Or, he will pardon her in advance, making an indictment moot.
In return, Hillary will appoint him to the Supreme Court.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: twoeightgolf on June 07, 2016, 04:13:22 PM
Obama will stifle any indictment.  Or, he will pardon her in advance, making an indictment moot.
In return, Hillary will appoint him to the Supreme Court.

This.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: Little Joe on June 07, 2016, 04:28:15 PM
Obama will stifle any indictment.  Or, he will pardon her in advance, making an indictment moot.
In return, Hillary will appoint him to the Supreme Court.
If there is even a chance that Hillary would appoint Obama to the SC, that alone should be enough to make one vote for Trump.  The Presidential term is 4 years.  SC is for life.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: nddons on June 07, 2016, 05:29:49 PM
This.
Welcome, 28G!

I disagree with this though. Being a Supreme is not beg enough for Obama and his ego. I believe he wants to be UN Secretary General, and believe that he's the Ruler of the New World Order.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: LevelWing on June 07, 2016, 05:31:20 PM
Welcome, 28G!

I disagree with this though. Being a Supreme is not beg enough for Obama and his ego. I believe he wants to be UN Secretary General, and believe that he's the Ruler of the New World Order.
I've thought about this before as well. The U.N. Secretary General seems more suitable to him than being a SCOTUS justice. However being a SCOTUS justice would allow him to continue to "fundamentally transform" America even after he left office.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: nddons on June 07, 2016, 06:51:32 PM
I've thought about this before as well. The U.N. Secretary General seems more suitable to him than being a SCOTUS justice. However being a SCOTUS justice would allow him to continue to "fundamentally transform" America even after he left office.
Given how much time Obama has spent overseas before his election, and during the past 7+ years, trashing and apologizing for the United States, it's in his blood to continue to do so, only with a louder megaphone. 

Plus, if he joined the Supremes, we will once and for all see just what kind of "Constitutional Scholar" he really is.  My guess is that he would like that to be buried. 
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 07, 2016, 07:51:18 PM
Welcome, 28G!

I disagree with this though. Being a Supreme is not beg enough for Obama and his ego. I believe he wants to be UN Secretary General, and believe that he's the Ruler of the New World Order.

How can he become the U.N. Secretary General?
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: nddons on June 07, 2016, 08:25:29 PM
How can he become the U.N. Secretary General?
I believe that they are appointed by the General Assembly.  Obama has cozied up to and bowed before so many despots over the last 8 years that he's set the table for the politics of the nomination process.  IMO. 
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: LevelWing on June 08, 2016, 01:14:20 AM
I believe that they are appointed by the General Assembly.  Obama has cozied up to and bowed before so many despots over the last 8 years that he's set the table for the politics of the nomination process.  IMO.
I'm not sure the U.N. would accept an American as Secretary General, even if it was Obama.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: Little Joe on June 08, 2016, 03:38:42 AM
I'm not sure the U.N. would accept an American as Secretary General, even if it was Obama.
I sort of agree.  I think someone would remind them about his Nobel Prize, and his actions afterward.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: Bob Noel on June 08, 2016, 04:35:53 AM
I'm not sure the U.N. would accept an American as Secretary General, even if it was Obama.

would obama take a page from lizzy and claim he was actually Kenyan?

Maybe the UN would accept obama self-identifying as a non-american.

think of the possibilities...

Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 08, 2016, 06:21:16 AM
I believe that they are appointed by the General Assembly.  Obama has cozied up to and bowed before so many despots over the last 8 years that he's set the table for the politics of the nomination process.  IMO.

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Some customs have developed regarding the selection process, such as that the appointee may not be a citizen of any of the Security Council's five permanent members.

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any of the five permanent members of the Council can veto (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_veto_power) a nomination

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary-General_of_the_United_Nations

Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: nddons on June 08, 2016, 07:09:44 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary-General_of_the_United_Nations
Well, as I said, it's IMO. I'm no UN expert.

On the other hand, if Obama can violate the US Constitution with Executive Orders, I think he's fully capable of violating a custom or two in the UN.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 08, 2016, 08:37:33 AM
Well, as I said, it's IMO. I'm no UN expert.

On the other hand, if Obama can violate the US Constitution with Executive Orders, I think he's fully capable of violating a custom or two in the UN.

So you are of the belief that Russia would not veto that appointment?
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: JeffDG on June 08, 2016, 09:04:24 AM
So you are of the belief that Russia would not veto that appointment?
Why would they?


He's been happy to acquiesce in Russia's annexation of large part of the Ukraine, even though the US had promised Ukraine that we would defend them when they gave up their nukes.


Obama's been a great friend to Putin.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: LevelWing on June 08, 2016, 09:09:20 AM
If Obama were the Secretary General, he'd probably have a lot of flexibility. ;)
Title: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: nddons on June 08, 2016, 12:48:13 PM
So you are of the belief that Russia would not veto that appointment?
I don't know, Eppy. Is it your mission to disavow me of my opinion today?  That's why I called it an opinion and not a fact. I think you're making a bigger deal out of this than it needs to be.

That being said, do YOU know what kind of deal Obama made with Putin when he told Medvedev that he would have more "flexibility" after the election?  I don't.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: bflynn on June 08, 2016, 12:55:59 PM
A slight correction - the doormat CLAIMS to have enough delegates.  She is depending on pledged superdelegates who probably are for her but are not required to make a choice until the convention voting.  If something goes off the rails, they still have the opportunity to change and vote for Bernie.

Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: nddons on June 08, 2016, 01:21:05 PM
A slight correction - the doormat CLAIMS to have enough delegates.  She is depending on pledged superdelegates who probably are for her but are not required to make a choice until the convention voting.  If something goes off the rails, they still have the opportunity to change and vote for Bernie.
And it was just by chance that they announced this on the eve of the CA primary. Great way to get Bernie voters to stay home.
Title: Re: The corrupt doormat has enough delegates
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on June 08, 2016, 02:16:01 PM
I don't know, Eppy. Is it your mission to disavow me of my opinion today?  That's why I called it an opinion and not a fact. I think you're making a bigger deal out of this than it needs to be.

That being said, do YOU know what kind of deal Obama made with Putin when he told Medvedev that he would have more "flexibility" after the election?  I don't.

Not after you Stan, just presenting information and questions.   8)