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Pilot Zone => Accident Review/Never Again (I hope..) => Topic started by: invflatspin on July 26, 2017, 10:28:48 PM

Title: Bad one in Ogden UT.
Post by: invflatspin on July 26, 2017, 10:28:48 PM
I think I knew the pilot. He had a painting biz in town.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-plane-crash-kills-2-couples-leaving-vacation-002042672.html

A36 with 4 aboard, plus bags heading for vacation. Hot, high, heavy. Maybe DA, maybe more to it. Very very sad.
Title: Re: Bad one in Ogden UT.
Post by: Anthony on July 27, 2017, 05:54:47 AM
That's terrible.  I always hate to speculate, but that what discussion boards are for, right?  I rarely filled all the seats in the Tiger or flew at gross weight, maybe because I had it at high altitude in Colorado for several years.  I hate to hear accidents like these.  Ship the luggage UPS, and leave a margin for W&B.  I'm, not saying this guy was over gross, but high, hot, and heavy was never a place I wanted to be. 
Title: Re: Bad one in Ogden UT.
Post by: airguy on August 21, 2017, 07:14:40 AM
Hot, high and heavy carried me to within about 18" of wrinkling an airplane when I was a fresh PPL, scared the crap out of me and taught me a lesson I've never forgotten.

Took me a while to figure out that my primary instructor was a friggin' idiot and there were LOTS of gaps in my knowledge.
Title: Re: Bad one in Ogden UT.
Post by: EppyGA on August 22, 2017, 04:56:16 PM
Once we get done with the checkride we really don't need to use all that stuff anymore ;)
Title: OSHKOSH AirVenture for some
Post by: KamKevy on August 06, 2019, 05:08:34 AM
Oh... Thats why I assumed the "if"

Anyway, as everyone can join their forum... But its true that we should every time ask for permission, but well...
Title: Re: Bad one in Ogden UT.
Post by: Steingar on August 06, 2019, 05:46:24 AM
Yeah, I had a deal where it would have been bad had it been a bit warmer.  Scared the bejesus out of me.  I became way more careful about density altitude and performance limitations thereafter.
Title: Re: Bad one in Ogden UT.
Post by: Anthony on August 06, 2019, 06:59:48 AM
Yeah, I had a deal where it would have been bad had it been a bit warmer.  Scared the bejesus out of me.  I became way more careful about density altitude and performance limitations thereafter.

When I lived in Colorado, Density Altitude of 10,000 ft or more was not uncommon in the summer.  I learned the Tiger was only a two place plane when it was that hot.  No problem, as it was usually just me flying or me and one other person.