PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: acrogimp on October 24, 2018, 07:57:43 AM
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Predicting now this bomb story is a radical-alt-left-government-media complex ploy.
That is how cynical their behavior has made me.
They get to talk about threats and civility out of one side of their mouth while at the same time encouraging their brownshirts to go out chasing Republican politicians out of restaurants, annoying them at home, etc., out of the other side of their mouth.
This is not the style of the right - timing is far too suspicious.
'Gimp
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Is this the Soros thing,where an employee brought it to a wooded area? I’m calling total bullshit this.
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Reportedly 2 packages sent to Obama's and Clinton's, intercepted in the mail. CNN center in NYC evacuated as well.
'Gimp
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False flag was the first thing I thought of. Timing is way, way too suspicious. Why Clinton? Why Obama? They aren't doing anything bad for the Repubs. Every time they speak more people leave their party. Nonsense.
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It's a false flag.
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Apparently packages were 'easily' identified in normal USSS screening, but the descriptions on Fox sound like these may not have been completely functional devices.
Fox just reported 3rd party said similarities between package sent to Soros and Clinton's.
I just don't accept this is a righty, we want the Obama's and Clinton's out spewing their divisive nonsense 24/7 and we want CNN chiming in with their biased campaign contributions.
The blue wave was a non-starter, pollsters were starting to move towards more representative numbers (not blue wave) and this is the Left's last-ditch October Surprise, gain sympathy - IMO.
It's sad we think this way but definitely fits a pattern - like all the faux-hate-crimes, faux-rapes, etc.
Predicting Democrats apologize for fundraising off of this by end of the day today.
'Gimp
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my immediate suspicion is that this is from someone on the Left. The right has not been known to be violent.
This so sloppy that I am suspicious of it.
What I fear is that they have set up someone who looks like they are on the right and we'll find that out in mid Nov.
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Hoping the FBI and SS get to the heart of this quickly, no matter who is behind it.
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As with the Kavanaugh smear attempt, my first reaction to the package thing is to see it as Tonya Harding all over again. The thuggish, obvious attempt to WIN by hiring an inept nincompoop to bash your opponent in the knee.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/10/the-fakest-of-fake-news.html
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I’m not sure how any of you can be so certain this was not someone on the right. Both left and right have deranged folks on their side. And to say that the right isn’t violent is simply not true. Neo nazis, KKK, abortion clinic bombers, abortion provider killers, thugs who beat up gays, etc. are all examples of people on the right who are and have been violent. Do they represent a mere fraction of folks on the right? Absolutely! But it’s the same with the loonies on the left.
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Trump is winning on all fronts, including the 'caravan' issue where he has come out in no uncertain terms about calling out the armed forces. Forgive me but I hope it comes to that, and we have ourselves a constitutional crisis with the Dems insisting that the CinC is NOT authorized to call out the military to defend the US border. It would be - glorious. This latest bomb crap is a deflection away from the failing 'immigration' which is really a planned invasion. Note how the media has already moved on from the caravan story for the most part and is now all bomb crazy.
With the amount of video around all these high-dollar places, including most post offices, having video on something is pretty likely. Whether the coppers will bother to go the mile to investigate is another matter. If the libs who are running this false flag deal think they are changing minds - it's pretty stupid planning.
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I’m not sure how any of you can be so certain this was not someone on the right. Both left and right have deranged folks on their side. And to say that the right isn’t violent is simply not true. Neo nazis, KKK, abortion clinic bombers, abortion provider killers, thugs who beat up gays, etc. are all examples of people on the right who are and have been violent. Do they represent a mere fraction of folks on the right? Absolutely! But it’s the same with the loonies on the left.
Sorry the KKK was a Democratic organization. Ever hear of Robert Byrd?
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Neo nazis,
You do understand that "nazi" is a shortened word standing for "National Socialist". Since when does anyone on the right stand for socialism?
KKK,
You do realize the KKK is a creation of the democrat party? The democrats started and promoted the KKK for years, right up through the '70's. Their participation has become more convoluted since then because of their myth that they represent minorities, especially blacks. When the democrats realized they needed the black vote they calmed down their support of the KKK.
abortion clinic bombers, abortion provider killers
Not all conservatives are pro life, and not all liberals are pro choice. Placing this firmly in the conservative camp has no basis in reality.
thugs who beat up gays
Again, no basis in reality. Liberals have been known to smear gays when they see it appropriate (means justifies the end). The democrats simply use the gays as they use minorities for votes.
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Sorry the KKK was a Democratic organization. Ever hear of Robert Byrd?
"The democrats haven't been this angry since the Republicans freed their slaves".
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But it’s the same with the loonies on the left.
Our loonies on the right are a small fraction of the loonies on the left. When the mainstream supporters of violence and public ridicule are in office and telling their followers to kick people, and get in their face, and rioting over campus republican speakers, I'd say trying to tar both sides with the same size brush is disingenuous.
Violence, and abuse has become every-day behaviors for a significant majority of politically active progs. Yes, there are outliers on the right who get carried away, but they are still not mainstream like the screaming fits found in lib-land.
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Our loonies on the right are a small fraction of the loonies on the left. When the mainstream supporters of violence and public ridicule are in office and telling their followers to kick people, and get in their face, and rioting over campus republican speakers, I'd say trying to tar both sides with the same size brush is disingenuous.
Violence, and abuse has become every-day behaviors for a significant majority of politically active progs. Yes, there are outliers on the right who get carried away, but they are still not mainstream like the screaming fits found in lib-land.
I was just going to post something similar to that. The media gushes 24/7 if a rightie does something violent, which is extremely rare, but goes as silent as they can get away with when lefties do, which actually has been quite frequent since the election.
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I’m not sure how any of you can be so certain this was not someone on the right. Both left and right have deranged folks on their side. And to say that the right isn’t violent is simply not true. Neo nazis, KKK, abortion clinic bombers, abortion provider killers, thugs who beat up gays, etc. are all examples of people on the right who are and have been violent. Do they represent a mere fraction of folks on the right? Absolutely! But it’s the same with the loonies on the left.
The KKK isn't doing a damn thing nowadays that I'm aware of. Besides it almost contained more FBI plants than genuine members in its heyday. Abortion clinic attacks are lone wolf nuts. Thugs beating up gays are far more likely to be Democrats than Republicans (prisons or the "hood" where they traditionally hate gays).
There will always be lone wolf nutcakes on every side. And I'm keeping an open mind this could turn out to be one.
These days the organized, well funded groups promoting and engaging in violence are all on the left. It's even being publicly encouraged by sitting Congress persons. The right doesn't have to; it's winning through legitimate process.
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The other differentiator in the willingness of people to get violent on the right and left is the strategic goals. With the exception of Roe V Wade, the right typically is on the defensive to standards and practices which are present in much of our current culture. One may call that 'old school' or 'dated' or 'outmoded' thinking but the conservatives want to maintain much of a status-quo against the looming liberal tide of 'hope and change' and 'fundamental transformation'.
Republics are slow to change. It's why we took more than 100 years and a war to outlaw slavery. Democracy, or as I call it 'mob rule' is based on fear, intimidation, and passion rather than rational reflection. Charlottesville is a prime example. There were lunatics on each side, and one lunatic on the right caused a death. The rest of the conservatives there were attempting to protect a statue which has stood for a long time and represents a tribute to a broken idealism(slavery, civil war). Those on the left were bent on ignoring public law on protection of state statue, and using passion and mob rule to enforce their idea of retro-history. The civil war DID happen. Many men on both sides DID die. Many of them died for what they believe in, and we acknowledge their false ideals with a place to remember the mistakes.
Liberals aren't interested in change through republican measures anymore. They want what they want, and aren't interested in debate, or forming a consensus with opposing ideas. Many on the right are fans of what's called 'compromise'. I am not. I respect that others have different viewpoints, and I'm willing to listen, as long as they use the rule of law to make society into a 'more perfect union'. If that means we open our borders to all people regardless of policy, then make that argument in the well of the Senate. Don't come at me with a mob of people overrunning the border, do it under the banner of legislation. Let yourself be heard to your representatives, and they will offer a SB or HB just like Obamacare(well, bad example as that was forced through using several wacky stipulations).
Use of force to change policy is the kind of stuff that those in Guatemala are trying to escape. The dems are playing a dangerous game, and there will likely be a time when the mob-mentality gets out of hand. Woe be it for those on the far-left when that happens. It will not go well.
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Yes, they can’t win through due process, and voters are deserting them, and rightfully so. A former top Clinton aide essentially sums it up:
Over the weekend, Philippe Reines said protesters are confronting Republican officials in public spaces because it’s — “all that’s left.”
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Conservatives consider and discuss.
Liberals emote.
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"The democrats haven't been this angry since the Republicans freed their slaves".
Started in earnest around November 2016. That's why Democrats are importing more.
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Needing attention and thinking no one would check, Sleazebag, andy cuomo claimed that his office was targeted by a 'device.'
Turns out explosive 'device' was printed flyers.
I guess sleazy andy was trying to take a page from rohm emmanuel's 'never let a crisis go to waste,' handbook.
NYPD official: Suspicious package at Gov. Cuomo's office deemed safe
From CNN's Sonia Moghe In a mid-day press conference in front of New York's Time Warner Center, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said that his office was sent a "device."
An NYPD official now says the suspicious package in question has since been deemed safe.
The source describes it as an informational package that contained literature.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/clintons-obama-suspicious-packages/index.html
you have to scroll WAY down to find it.
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Okay. Stamps on parcels not cancelled. None of addressees on premises at delivery. Devices shown partly in/out of envelope. Wouldn’t they have been dismantled? Caravan wasn’t getting enough traction. It’s late October.
I don’t need to hear a quack. Trouble is, sigh, as always, the adults on the right have to act like this deserves gravitas and fairness. Too bad we can’t monitor the targets for how well they sleep tonight. My guess is soundly.
Comments interesting on this one.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/10/24/suspicious-packages-with-appearance-of-pipe-bombs-sent-to-various-left-wing-political-figures/
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https://gab.ai/JohnRivers/posts/39692843
https://gab.ai/Thomas_Wictor/posts/39694215
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I’m not sure how any of you can be so certain this was not someone on the right. Both left and right have deranged folks on their side. And to say that the right isn’t violent is simply not true. Neo nazis, KKK, abortion clinic bombers, abortion provider killers, thugs who beat up gays, etc. are all examples of people on the right who are and have been violent. Do they represent a mere fraction of folks on the right? Absolutely! But it’s the same with the loonies on the left.
Be sure? No, we are not sure.
But we have seen all this before. The number of times we have seen false flag attack has been astonishing. Virtually every attack initially attributed to a conservative was later discovered to be either false or falsely reported.
As others have pointed out, the list of targets seems so random, like they were intended to inflame Democrats rather than a list that a conservative would choose. A conservative would not have picked Clinton and Obama, they would have chosen Booker and Feinstein. Clinton and Obama are very loved by the left but only sorta disliked by the right. They are washed up has-beens, attacking them would do nothing.
Plus we also know the extent the Dems were willing to go to over Kavanaugh...and that was one office being appointed. Now they are playing for control of Congress, which is about 458 elections. How much further would they go for this?
This has been done on such a clumsy way, it is like someone expects the FBI to find the carefully laid clues. I am highly suspicious of this and O suspect the liberal Media will shortly find their suspect and proclaim him as a Republican. But i also bet that when we dig in, we will discover that the suspect is all a constructed persona.
Keep in mind that I am a moderate and independent. I don’t really have a side.
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MSM is already using the term "MAGAbomber" to describe the perpetrator.
Pure desperation ahead of the election.
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/37557/limbaugh-were-bomb-threats-false-flag-operation-amanda-prestigiacomo
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https://gab.ai/JohnRivers/posts/39692843 (https://gab.ai/JohnRivers/posts/39692843)
https://gab.ai/Thomas_Wictor/posts/39694215 (https://gab.ai/Thomas_Wictor/posts/39694215)
Two great threads. Obviously you are on Gab. I have an account there, but do not really visit.
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If you received a suspicious package, would you just take a bunch of pics of it and not immediately contact the police?
And if you wanted to report a gang rape in high school, why would you go to a politician and not law enforcement?
The “Magabomber” cry is cute but flat. No one is buying. After Kavanaugh, no one trusts these desperate left wingers. Too bad, because it’s awfully hard to restore trust. The Kavanaugh smear lowered Dem credibility to abysmal levels; this caper will totally extinguish it.
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If you received a suspicious package, would you just take a bunch of pics of it and not immediately contact the police?
And if you wanted to report a gang rape in high school, why would you go to a politician and not law enforcement?
The “Magabomber” cry is cute but flat. No one is buying. After Kavanaugh, no one trusts these desperate left wingers. Too bad, because it’s awfully hard to restore trust. The Kavanaugh smear lowered Dem credibility to abysmal levels; this caper will totally extinguish it.
12 days to go.
"You ain't seen nuthin' yet" :o
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https://gab.com/Volbeck/posts/39695757
Indeed, the purposeful spelling errors, indicating one of those “low-education” Trump voters!
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Sorry, sorry, I’m just so incensed about the Dems unleashing their evil scourges on our great nation!
>:( >:( >:(
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Two great threads. Obviously you are on Gab. I have an account there, but do not really visit.
I rarely sign in, just surf the home page.
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Who is condemning this and who continues to attack?
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I expect that the communist party (democratcrat) will issue a deep state FBI agent to target some poor slob and pretend he did it, then kill him claiming he was holding a loaded cell phones he, or dangerous taco. They will miraculously find an American flag in his apartment and claim tha5 he had pornographic material on his hard drive and lay the blame on republicans.
That’s how corrup the left is and the fbi has become.
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Who is condemning this and who continues to attack?
CNN fits in some outrage.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cnn-president-tells-trump-words-matter-mail-bomb-found-214004747.html
yawn,,,
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OK, so Soros hired a bunch of people to send stuff to make the Repubs look bad. Next?
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OK, so Soros hired a bunch of people to send stuff to make the Repubs look bad. Next?
I agree that this is most likely a false flag to make Republican supporters look like violent people as the Dems have been getting killed by the MOB thing. Hillary called us Deplorables, said recently they shouldn't be civil, and Holder recommended kicking people in which you disagree. Antifa, and BLM are now seen as violent, hate groups by anyone with a brain. The Dems needed some relief prior to the midterm elections.
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I’m not sure how any of you can be so certain this was not someone on the right. Both left and right have deranged folks on their side. And to say that the right isn’t violent is simply not true. Neo nazis, KKK, abortion clinic bombers, abortion provider killers, thugs who beat up gays, etc. are all examples of people on the right who are and have been violent. Do they represent a mere fraction of folks on the right? Absolutely! But it’s the same with the loonies on the left.
Exactly, there are loonies on all sides of the political spectrum. Still, a false flag sort of operation by a left wingnut can't be ruled out either. No point in speculating until we have more information.
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Sigh - I so enjoy speculating. It's right up there with jumping off the handle, creating strawmen arguments that I effectively swat down, and accusing others of micro-aggression against me to make them feel bad. It's basically my whole day here in the basement, in my pj's. 'Mom! Mom! make me some pancakes, and I want the good syrup too! Hurry up, I'm hungry'.
lolz.... :o
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How long before the FBI and SS figure this ut and have some solid info to share? For the conspiracy theorists, would upper echelon at the FBI bury this info if it was not good for the left?
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How long before the FBI and SS figure this ut and have some solid info to share? For the conspiracy theorists, would upper echelon at the FBI bury this info if it was not good for the left?
Let's see, perhaps if we examine their track record....
- Hillary E-Mail Scandal
- Fast and Furious Scandal
- Various official leak scandals
- Benghazi Scandal
- Acknowledged FISA abuses
- Acknowledged use of leaks to further their investigatory desires
- Complicit in the Russia Collusion hoax
Sure, not like the fox guarding the henhouse at all.
/sarc
'Gimp
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I’m not sure how any of you can be so certain this was not someone on the right. Both left and right have deranged folks on their side. And to say that the right isn’t violent is simply not true. Neo nazis, KKK, abortion clinic bombers, abortion provider killers, thugs who beat up gays, etc. are all examples of people on the right who are and have been violent. Do they represent a mere fraction of folks on the right? Absolutely! But it’s the same with the loonies on the left.
We know with certainty that these are coming from the left. It has all the tell-tale signs of Democrats and their operatives. The prime indicator is that none of them actually work.
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(https://static.thefederalistpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/violence-in-America.jpg)
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Breaking! Elizabeth Warren has announced that she received 1/1024th of a bomb today.
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These fake bombs are clearly "performance art" from a "comedian." Democrats should get a sense of humor. I certainly think it's funny.
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Beginning to believe this is designed to frame Trump. Hasn't there been a leak that the packages all originated from S. Florida? Heard someone say this morning the FBI was analyzing DNA from the saliva on the stamps. When was the last time you could buy stamps that needed to be licked? More and more this seems to be orchestrated by the deep state to finally get rid of Trump. Everything they've tried til now has back fired on them.
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(https://i0.wp.com/hardnoxandfriends.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/t4-3.jpg?w=600)
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Where did your u get such a flattering picture of joe biden?
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Bomber supposedly in custody.
MIAMI, Oct 26 (Reuters) - Federal authorities arrested a person on Friday in connection with at least a dozen parcel bombs sent this week to Democratic politicians and high-profile critics of U.S. President Donald Trump, the U.S. Justice Department said.
The person was taken into custody in the Miami area, a U.S. law enforcement official said. The investigation into this week's wave of suspicious packages focused on southern Florida and a mail sorting facility in the area.
The U.S. Justice Department will hold a news conference at 2:30 p.m. EDT. (1830 GMT), a department spokeswoman said.
Citing an unnamed source, cable network MSNBC said the suspect was a man in his 50s. CNN said the arrest was made in Plantation, a city near Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Reuters could not immediately confirm those reports.
http://news.trust.org/item/20181026152127-7e7mn
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Fox reporting guy was a New Yorker now living in FL. Has been on watch list for a while.
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Fox reporting guy was a New Yorker now living in FL. Has been on watch list for a while.
But he's not a "white guy" from Backwoods USA. He's not a bible and gun toting redneck..............
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(https://static.thefederalistpapers.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/bomb-package-democrats-hate.jpg)
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Bombers van showing a lot of Trump stickers, GOP red elephant, in the windows and once that reads "CNN sucks". Sounds like a complete loon from the far-right gone off the rails. Shame. We will be hearing about this for the next 8 years.
sigh,,,
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So far this still doesn't pass the smell test.
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Does this look right?
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I'm going to get an early start. The guy, for the rest of his life, and for the next 8 years will never be known by his first and last name alone. It will always and forever be linked with "Trump" in some way.
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-sponsored"
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-driven"
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-inspired"
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-linked"
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-affiliated"
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-associated"
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-guided"
and so on....
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It must be a big conspiracy by the cops, since this had to be a false flag operation. No one on the right would ever hurt anyone...
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It must be a big conspiracy by the cops, since this had to be a false flag operation. No one on the right would ever hurt anyone...
(https://pics.onsizzle.com/troll-spray-designed-to-remove-unwanted-trolls-from-message-boards-9890159.png)
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I'm going to get an early start. The guy, for the rest of his life, and for the next 8 years will never be known by his first and last name alone. It will always and forever be linked with "Trump" in some way.
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-sponsored"
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-driven"
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-inspired"
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-linked"
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-affiliated"
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-associated"
"Cesar Sayoc - Trump-guided"
and so on....
More importantly, how many glazed-eyed, leftie NPC lemmings are going to smugly assume the President of the United States actually caused this? Fewer each day, I’m thinking.
Especially considering the caravans, Kavanaugh, this weirdly public national bomb crisis, which LEOs all over the internet are saying would normally be on visual blackout until more was known, and the left’s insane inability to actually accept that they are losing.
Is it just me, or was the “reveal” of the supposed perp a little too pat?
Meh.
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It must be a big conspiracy by the cops, since this had to be a false flag operation. No one on the right would ever hurt anyone...
Violence does seem to be the purview of the left. The fact that we even think “false flag” is testimony to the unfortunate trend of Dem violence and treachery.
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Does this look right?
Those almost look professionally applied, brand new, and never marred by leftists who took offense. It’s almost like a spontaneous march from Guatemala or something.
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Most actual Trump supporters would not do that. Pasting shit all over a van is lefty hippie style. This guy is either false flag or if real a total loon. Well either way, a total loon.
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No shit.
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Most actual Trump supporters would not do that. Pasting shit all over a van is lefty hippie style. This guy is either false flag or if real a total loon. Well either way, a total loon.
They paid him, and he was too dumb to think they wouldn’t keep their promise to protect his identity.
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As I suspected, the guy probably really is a Trump supporter.
That in no way means Trump caused it or condones it, and I certainly hope I don't hear any conservatives defending him. We need to call for his prosecution and punishment for many reasons. One would be to show Democrats how it is done.
The conspiracy nut in me sees no conspiracy here. Just a loony nut that may have felt desperate.
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As I suspected, the guy probably really is a Trump supporter.
That in no way means Trump caused it or condones it, and I certainly hope I don't hear any conservatives defending him. We need to call for his prosecution and punishment for many reasons. One would be to show Democrats how it is done.
The conspiracy nut in me sees no conspiracy here. Just a loony nut that may have felt desperate.
Defending who, Trump or the stooge?
I’m not a conspiracy theory nut and I see conspiracy loud and clear here.
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Does this look right?
That looks a little too neat, clean and professional to me.
There is a nasty underbelly to this story that the local LE won’t share, the networks won’t tell and truth won’t be told.
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Wow, he didn’t follow any conservatives on social media, only lefties. And OF COURSE he was seen at Trump rallies! For legitimacy, ya know.
https://www.infowars.com/alleged-maga-bomber-cesar-sayoc-only-follows-left-wing-people-on-twitter/
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https://gab.com/USMC-DevilDog/posts/39906527
And this bomber guy is “white,” we are told breathlessly.
Right! Like Lizzie Warren is Indian.
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He mailed the packages from USPS Kiosks..................Why do the pictures not show the postage being canceled?
He certainly spent a huge amount of time laying out all of the stickers on his van.
The stickers on his van sure look good for living in South Florida...........should they not show some fading?
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They couldn’t have that van out of the warehouse where it was decorated, ya know, until the right moment! What if someone saw it somewhere that was non-incriminating?
So yes, it was out of the sun.
And now they’re grimly talking about these “bombings.” If I mailed a bunch of people toy guns, would that constitute “shootings?”
Jerkwads.
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It's going to turn out his ethnicity is Philippine I betcha.
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They couldn’t have that van out of the warehouse where it was decorated, ya know, until the right moment! What if someone saw it somewhere that was non-incriminating?
So yes, it was out of the sun.
And now they’re grimly talking about these “bombings.” If I mailed a bunch of people toy guns, would that constitute “shootings?”
Jerkwads.
Give it 24 hours and it will be discussed as weapons of mass destruction.
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I did a search on Intelius, it only pulls up one Cesar Sayoc. Did I do it right?
https://www.intelius.com/people-search/Cesar-Sayoc
This same guy looks like he is on LinkedIn as Cesar Altieri:
Cesar Altieri
Promoter, booking agent Live entertainment, owner, choreographer,
North Miami Beach, Florida
Brevard College, N.C./Univ of N.C. at Charlotte
Degree Name BA
Field Of Study Business, Finance, Economics , Biology,, Veterinary Medicine Graduate 2021 from High Point Univ.
Dates attended or expected graduation 1980 – 1984
Career decision of becoming a Horse Doctor was always a love for animals, which were here first and never do anything to anyone. And respect all living things. My family very sound Sayoc name in Medical field Grandfather Col. Baltazar Zook Sayoc that perfect the conversion oriental eye to Americanize. The first plastic surgeon to be observed by 8 million people in NY city Hospital. He over through Communist Philippines liberated island. He built all hospitals in Philippines islands and sets standards highest level. Most surgeon use his instruments which are patented. And a lot surgeon use today. Also Sayoc intl. schools marshals arts Kali that used to over throw communist party . Also one 5 Hero's disciplinary my mother Madeline Sayoc Giardiello First president Pharmacy Cosmetic Association, Who Who Business Women of Year, Soul buyer consultant for Home Shopping Network, head number 1 marketing consul in World Aventura Marketing consul, up for city counsel women Aventura,
I found other links, on twitter he follows CNN. I don't know what to make of this. If he is anti-Communist I can see him being on the right for sure. On the other hand, he's from NY and FL and really into Native American food which could be your typical leftist but then I'm into paleo foraging too so you can't always go by that.
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That quoted description is gibberish, so much so that not one word of it can be taken seriously. It sounds like an internet troll, even.
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That quoted description is gibberish, so much so that not one word of it can be taken seriously. It sounds like an internet troll, even.
Yes. If he wrote that himself it looks like a thought disorder for sure, a lot of disconnected ideas, and rambling.
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The harder I look at the fake news surrounding this, the more fake this seems.
Just imagine a Native American, Trump supporting, strip club worker, who lives in the van the police claim they 'captured,' with perfectly visible decals laying out the whole case for him to be a raging conservative.
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/10/26/18/5452472-6321331-image-m-101_1540576123744.jpg)
No wonder the left is so desperate to accept this as the official story. It has just as many holes in it as faux-a-hontas claims and the Seminole tribe has conveniently denied that Cesar Altier Sayoc has any connection to them.
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His hair looks photoshopped or painted on. Guessing he was up for some crime and was offered a way out. Too weird. The internet is exploding with reasons this thing is a setup.
Conservatives don’t virtue signal; all that art is way overkill. Plus, people in those cities he’s supposed to frequent say that even one Trump sticker will get your car looking like it’s just been driven through Mosul.
But neighbors and relatives about to confirm his Dem hatred in three, two, one ...
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My sure to be sainted father reposted this on Facebook:
"Charles Manson never murdered anyone. He just held rallies where he encouraged his followers to be violent."
I responded as follows:
"This is exactly right, I agree the time is long passed for all people of good conscious to oppose dog whistles inciting political violence, so I join the OP and call on Maxine Waters, Hillary Clinton, Cory Booker, Eric Holder, Kathy Griffin, Cher, Rosie O'Donnell, Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, John Brennan, Jeff Zucker, Jim Acosta, Nancy Pelosi, Rachel Maddow, Joe Scarborough, Misha Brzinsky, Joy Behar, Whoopie Golberg, Nancy Wasserman Schultz, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, the NYT Op/Ed Page, the Shakespeare in the Park production that portrayed the assassination of Trump, Madonna, Johnny Depp, Black Lives Matter, ANTIFA, George Soros, and their enablers at NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC - ALL OF WHOM HAVE BEEN NONSTOP INCITING TO VIOLENCE FOR ALMOST 3 YEARS NOW to stop the divisive rhetoric that has ACTUALLY incited people to actually shoot Republicans, to actually firebomb Republican Campaign Offices, to actually assault Republicans eating dinner, watching movies or trying to leave their home - to actually burn vehicles with pro Trump bumper stickers, to actually attack people on the right simply for trying to exercise their right to free speech on college campuses across the fruited plains - I agree, it is high time for this nonsense to stop - there is no place in the United States for political violence, on ANY side."
'Gimp
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My sure to be sainted father reposted this on Facebook:
"Charles Manson never murdered anyone. He just held rallies where he encouraged his followers to be violent."
I responded as follows:
"This is exactly right, I agree the time is long passed for all people of good conscious to oppose dog whistles inciting political violence, so I join the OP and call on Maxine Waters, Hillary Clinton, Cory Booker, Eric Holder, Kathy Griffin, Cher, Rosie O'Donnell, Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, John Brennan, Jeff Zucker, Jim Acosta, Nancy Pelosi, Rachel Maddow, Joe Scarborough, Misha Brzinsky, Joy Behar, Whoopie Golberg, Nancy Wasserman Schultz, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, the NYT Op/Ed Page, the Shakespeare in the Park production that portrayed the assassination of Trump, Madonna, Johnny Depp, Black Lives Matter, ANTIFA, George Soros, and their enablers at NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC - ALL OF WHOM HAVE BEEN NONSTOP INCITING TO VIOLENCE FOR ALMOST 3 YEARS NOW to stop the divisive rhetoric that has ACTUALLY incited people to actually shoot Republicans, to actually firebomb Republican Campaign Offices, to actually assault Republicans eating dinner, watching movies or trying to leave their home - to actually burn vehicles with pro Trump bumper stickers, to actually attack people on the right simply for trying to exercise their right to free speech on college campuses across the fruited plains - I agree, it is high time for this nonsense to stop - there is no place in the United States for political violence, on ANY side."
'Gimp
Great post Gimp. Spot on as usual.
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Love it! Succinct but comprehensive.
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I typically get the gallon and refillable spray bottle. Lasts a long time that way.
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Does this look right?
Looks far right.
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Looks far right.
To a Far Leftist, I'm sure it does.
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To a Far Leftist, I'm sure it does.
Nah, I'm an extreme centrist. I call myself that as I have some ideas that some folks would consider far left and some ideas that others would consider far right.
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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. This guy is apparently a total nutjob who happens to have latched onto Trump. Yeah, it's possible something more sinister will out eventually, but for now, no point in trying to make of it more than it seems to be.
Nothing here to do with politics, just some kind of mental illness. Prosecute the guy and lock him up, if appropriate in a psych ward, let the psychiatrists figure him out.
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The libs are NOT going to see it that way. This will turn into Trumps fault, and he'll be the central theme of violence and civil unrest for the next 8 years. Sorry.
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The libs are NOT going to see it that way. This will turn into Trumps fault, and he'll be the central theme of violence and civil unrest for the next 8 years. Sorry.
Hopefully there will be fewer and fewer libs over that time span as people wake up to the left’s mind control, and who get relief from the mental contortions required to keep up the lockstep.
Liberal genetics ....
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The libs are NOT going to see it that way. This will turn into Trumps fault, and he'll be the central theme of violence and civil unrest for the next 8 years. Sorry.
Oh sure, it's already happening. Scott Simon on NPR this morning was interviewing a couple of left-leaning writers about the thesis that Trump's rhetoric tends to inflame crazies like Sayoc. I don't buy it, however if it motivates Trump to become less divisive in his rhetoric, more of a "president for all the people", that would be a good thing. I give him high marks for his response to the whole affair so far, and I very much hope he keeps it up.
Blaming Trump for the actions of a deranged lunatic, however, would be like blaming Jodie Foster for the attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan. Anyone and anything can become the idee fixe in the mind of a sick person.
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The libs are NOT going to see it that way. This will turn into Trumps fault, and he'll be the central theme of violence and civil unrest for the next 8 years. Sorry.
Juan Williams is still beating the Charlottesville horse because the shooter had once posed for a selfie with a confederate flag in the background, which in his tiny mind, meant Donald Trump was at fault.
That ugly guy on msnbc - the one that looks look Fred Savage - Maddow, claimed that Donald Trump was personally responsible for the mail bomber and then followed up with exactly zero in the way of supporting evidence. It just was and that's enough for low information democrats (stupid people).
It is enlightenign that not one single democrat media, or otherwise, blamed the shooting of Steve Scalise on babbling maxine, or the other bleating idiots of the left calling for violence 24/7. Hypocrisy is the sole family value for democrats.
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Juan Williams is still beating the Charlottesville horse because the shooter had once posed for a selfie with a confederate flag in the background, which in his tiny mind, meant Donald Trump was at fault.
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Juan Williams is still beating the Charlottesville horse because the shooter had once posed for a selfie with a confederate flag in the background, which in his tiny mind, meant Donald Trump was at fault.
That ugly guy on msnbc - the one that looks look Fred Savage - Maddow, claimed that Donald Trump was personally responsible for the mail bomber and then followed up with exactly zero in the way of supporting evidence. It just was and that's enough for low information democrats (stupid people).
It is enlightenign that not one single democrat media, or otherwise, blamed the shooting of Steve Scalise on babbling maxine, or the other bleating idiots of the left calling for violence 24/7. Hypocrisy is the sole family value for democrats.
This entire episode stinks. Huge double standard in the Media, and their Democrat handlers. Scalise was quickly forgotten by them, but they will talk about this guy, and associate him with Trump well into the elections.
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My sure to be sainted father reposted this on Facebook:
"Charles Manson never murdered anyone. He just held rallies where he encouraged his followers to be violent."
I responded as follows:
"This is exactly right, I agree the time is long passed for all people of good conscious to oppose dog whistles inciting political violence, so I join the OP and call on Maxine Waters, Hillary Clinton, Cory Booker, Eric Holder, Kathy Griffin, Cher, Rosie O'Donnell, Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, John Brennan, Jeff Zucker, Jim Acosta, Nancy Pelosi, Rachel Maddow, Joe Scarborough, Misha Brzinsky, Joy Behar, Whoopie Golberg, Nancy Wasserman Schultz, Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer, the NYT Op/Ed Page, the Shakespeare in the Park production that portrayed the assassination of Trump, Madonna, Johnny Depp, Black Lives Matter, ANTIFA, George Soros, and their enablers at NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC - ALL OF WHOM HAVE BEEN NONSTOP INCITING TO VIOLENCE FOR ALMOST 3 YEARS NOW to stop the divisive rhetoric that has ACTUALLY incited people to actually shoot Republicans, to actually firebomb Republican Campaign Offices, to actually assault Republicans eating dinner, watching movies or trying to leave their home - to actually burn vehicles with pro Trump bumper stickers, to actually attack people on the right simply for trying to exercise their right to free speech on college campuses across the fruited plains - I agree, it is high time for this nonsense to stop - there is no place in the United States for political violence, on ANY side."
'Gimp
Outstanding.
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Outstanding.
I just want to know who Nancy Wasserman Schultz is
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I just want to know who Nancy Wasserman Schultz is
No you don't.
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Anyone notice how quickly this story died in the MSM?
Interesting how a guy who was a registered democrat suddenly switched to republican.
Also more interesting that the MSM branded him a "registered republican" when in actuality he was a felon and prohibited from voting, much less registering.
Hmmmmmm.
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Anyone notice how quickly this story died in the MSM?
Interesting how a guy who was a registered democrat suddenly switched to republican.
Also more interesting that the MSM branded him a "registered republican" when in actuality he was a felon and prohibited from voting, much less registering.
Hmmmmmm.
As Arte Johnson would say:
Verry Interresting
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As Arte Johnson would say:
Verry Interresting
While wearing a WWII German Army (Wehrmacht) uniform. Today he would be called a Nazi, racist, homophobe, misogynist.
Und Deplorable!
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They found another package. Still don't understand how all those packages went through the mail without cancellation stamps.
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They found another package. Still don't understand how all those packages went through the mail without cancellation stamps.
"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"
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Guess package guy went down the Christine B. Ford hole. Soon to be followed by the Honduran invasion.