PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Anthony on December 08, 2018, 10:32:37 AM
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Anyone watching these? Evidently, the normally passive French are upset over yet more taxes this time aimed at "addressing" Man Made Climate Change and Carbon. The UK charges draconian taxes for this stuff, and France wants to do it now. They have backed off due to the push back from vicious demonstrations in the streets of Paris.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2018/12/02/the-worst-riots-in-generations-spark-in-paris-heres-why-n2536854
https://www.businessinsider.com/paris-riots-photos-yellow-vest-protests-2018-12
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Liberalism: Ideas so good they have to be mandated!
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I think along with Brexit, this is an indication Europeans are getting sick of Globalism. Neighboring countries are also considering these type of nebulous Carbon Taxes on Fuel, and the protests are starting to spread.
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I think along with Brexit, this is an indication Europeans are getting sick of Globalism. Neighboring countries are also considering these type of nebulous Carbon Taxes on Fuel, and the protests are starting to spread.
And this is why the Paris Climate Accords will ultimately fail, because people are not going to let themselves be bullied into changing their lifestyle to head off a catastrophe that has not been convincingly shown to be either imminent or avoidable by human actions. The world will not willingly reduce its consumption of fossil fuels until either the supply is depleted, or a substitute energy source is brought to market that is cheaper in real market terms, sans subsidies and government-imposed consumption taxes.
(That's apart from the fact that we don't even KNOW what it will take to meet the goals set forth therein - something the politicians pushing these taxes don't understand because it isn't discussed by activist "experts".)
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What can more taxes do to alleviate climate change even if it is partially caused by Man? We had an Ice Age for millennia before Man. Is that that the norm? We are looking at small samples, and making really bad assumptions. Also "scientists" ve been caught fudging data, and using analysis just to get the outcome they want.
Again, what will these governments do with the tax revenue from "Cabon Taxes". How with this money help climate change? Even if it is just a punitive tax, it will reduce demand which is a huge negative for an economy as we run on fossil fuel, and we WANT an expanding economy which consumes MORE energy, not less.
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I think the politicians that push these taxes accept the fact that they will hurt the economy, at least in the short term, but they would argue that the effects of climate change will ultimately hurt the economy much more, and over the longer term, than the taxes will. They're supposed to help mitigate climate change by reducing fossil fuel consumption. What they'll succeed in doing, of course, is getting the politicians removed from office.
What makes the problem so wicked, in part, is that they could be right. We just don't know, yet, the full extent of the effects of climate change. Not knowing for sure whether we're headed for disaster (and even if we could be sure, as long as it's not going to happen within their lifetime), the public isn't going to stand for it, at least not in Western, first world countries. That might work under a totalitarian regime like China, but even there, trying to impose it could lead to mass revolt and the need for a very bloody crackdown.
As to whether ice ages are the norm... yes, over at least the last million years or so, ice ages have been the norm, punctuated by brief warmups and longer, but still relatively short, interglacials. The last ice age lasted over 100,000 years though it wasn't continuously as severe as at its peak. The Holocene interglacial has lasted about 12,000 years so far and will likely last at least another 12,000, though experts are divided on when the next glacial phase is due.
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When it comes to the "Climate" over the life of the Earth, there is NO BASELINE that works for the current perceived change in climate, as we are only actually measuring change in weather. Separating natural climate, or weather change actually from man made is IMPOSSIBLE.
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Here's how it works in a nutshell:
Find a problem, hopefully one that is inconclusive. Begin promoting what the "dangers" of this new problem are, get some bogus "experts" to attest to the coming doom and gloom. Have your MSM buy in hook, line and sinker.
Propose new taxes to "combat the problem". Use this revenue to fund pet projects and "spread the wealth around" by giving massive grants and loans to a new industry "working for a solution". Of course, these new industries make sure those campaign contributions pour in back to their new found friends.
How many times have we seen this?
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Smoooooth, Baby. Just hustle on along and do as I say, sheeeeeeeples ....
https://mobile.twitter.com/ajplus/status/861084691947864064
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What can more taxes do to alleviate climate change even if it is partially caused by Man? We had an Ice Age for millennia before Man. Is that that the norm? We are looking at small samples, and making really bad assumptions. Also "scientists" ve been caught fudging data, and using analysis just to get the outcome they want.
Again, what will these governments do with the tax revenue from "Cabon Taxes". How with this money help climate change? Even if it is just a punitive tax, it will reduce demand which is a huge negative for an economy as we run on fossil fuel, and we WANT an expanding economy which consumes MORE energy, not less.
Why don’t you ask Ocasio Cortez? I’m SURE she has a cogent, well thought out answer to your questions.
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Smoooooth, Baby. Just hustle on along and do as I say, sheeeeeeeples ....
https://mobile.twitter.com/ajplus/status/861084691947864064
Isn’t this collusion and interference in the French election?
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These controlling, Totalitarian liberal/progressive talk in nebulous, utopian terms for hope, and change. No measurement, no advancement, no accountability. Just trust us, and give government more money to govern, and control you.