PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: FastEddieB on February 06, 2016, 06:40:10 PM
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My opinion is that Rubio is certainly not winning any converts so far, repeating rehearsed talking points repeatedly.
Disappointing.
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Christie has impressed me so far. Kasich as well, which surprised me. I like how Carson handled himself, but don't agree with any position he takes. Too bad.
The rest of them are a fucking clown car.
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The debates are useless, only there to get network ratings and promote careers of the moderators.
Megan Kelly just signed her 10 million dollar book deal, so she needs to show her ass more.
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Chrisite tore Rubio a new one and made him look like a child that could only repeat the same lines over and over.
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The rest of them are a fucking clown car.
That is exactly what I thought when watching the socialist and the freaking idiot debating last night. I finally had to turn it off. Those two mental midgets spent the whole debate taking about all the enemies within our borders. They vilified only Americans who have found success in the U.S. I heard nothing about people that want to destroy us....nothing about any of our external enemies. Clinton looked directly into the camera and suggested the millions she's extracted from Wall Street have had absolutely no impact on behavior, and now she wants to go after Bankers and Wall Street execs. The idiot will have to face those comments in the general election.... I can't wait!
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Right now I can most envision a President Christie.
Plain spoken and forthright. Get 'er done swagger.
Not unlike Trump, but with more practical views.
Almost certainly not going to happen, but none of the rest inspire me at all.
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Chrisite tore Rubio a new one and made him look like a child that could only repeat the same lines over and over.
Yea, that was disturbing.
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Right now I can most envision a President Christie.
Plain spoken and forthright. Get 'er done swagger.
Not unlike Trump, but with more practical views.
Almost certainly not going to happen, but none of the rest inspire me at all.
I disagree about Christie. In every previous debate he refocused the argument against ObamaHillary. This time he abandoned that and played the circular firing squad card.
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I disagree about Christie. In every previous debate he refocused the argument against ObamaHillary. This time he abandoned that and played the circular firing squad card.
Maybe Christie realized that the same old "Obama sucks" line works only in small circles of the general electorate...
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The debates are useless, only there to get network ratings and promote careers of the moderators.
Megan Kelly just signed her 10 million dollar book deal, so she needs to show her ass more.
Well that settles the question of whether Dear Leader won. If he had had a good night, then debates would be all that matter to the Trumpkins.
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Maybe Christie realized that the same old "Obama sucks" line works only in small circles of the general electorate...
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So you see no criticism of Obama as legitimate?
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My opinion is that Rubio is certainly not winning any converts so far, repeating rehearsed talking points repeatedly.
Disappointing.
Its somewhat ironic, but you keep saying that same thing about Rubio.
All the candidates have a standard stump speech and they all say pretty much the same thing everywhere they go; except maybe Hillary, who changes what she says based on who she is talking to. But what you hear is mostly what the news outlets want you to hear.
And Rubio does seem to be winning a lot of converts. Me for one. In spite of his flaws, he is the best (IMNSHO) candidate that actually has a chance to win.
Even if I did like Trump or Cruz better, I believe they would be just as divisive as Obama. I don't want another 4 to 8 years of everyone hating everyone.
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Its somewhat ironic, but you keep saying that same thing about Rubio.
Not sure that I have - I think my prior criticism had to do with his throwing his religiosity in my face.
Last night was weird. Christie was zeroing in on how he was just repeating set sound bites/speeches, and Rubio could only repeat the same one about "Obama knowing exactly what he was doing" even though it was totally non-responsive the second and third times. He seemed almost like an automaton caught in some sort of recursive loop and unable to escape.
Like I said, I found it weird.
To be fair, Christie's line about actually having run things as a Governor also has worn thin - but I suppose they also have to play to people who might be watching their first debate.
I find the whole debate process has gotten almost unbearably tedious. I'd give up, but then again I have trouble driving by a wreck scene without looking.
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Not sure that I have - I think my prior criticism had to do with his throwing his religiosity in my face.
Last night was weird. Christie was zeroing in on how he was just repeating set sound bites/speeches, and Rubio could only repeat the same one about "Obama knowing exactly what he was doing" even though it was totally non-responsive the second and third times. He seemed almost like an automaton caught in some sort of recursive loop and unable to escape.
Like I said, I found it weird.
To be fair, Christie's line about actually having run things as a Governor also has worn thin - but I suppose they also have to play to people who might be watching their first debate.
I find the whole debate process has gotten almost unbearably tedious. I'd give up, but then again I have trouble driving by a wreck scene without looking.
Well, unless you're one of the folks that actually get to vote in these caucuses, the debates are just really entertainment. For those of us in California, the debates are meaningless and even when they become between the two party nominees, it is still pretty meaningless out here as the state will go to whoever is chosen the "blue" candidate. The presidential elections are all just theater for me. I imagine Democrats living in Texas feel the same way.
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Yeah, these are not actual debates. They are barely-moderated free-for-alls. Still, GOP should stay away from ABC and its ilk, with moderators like we saw last night. DNC operatives, really. And Stephanopoulos is the kiss of death to such an event.
Not sure I can last another eight plus months of all this upping and downing.
By the way, we were reading about how Biden will probably be drafted because the DNC is peeved the Shrilldabeast can't even seem to put off Sanders. Every time I spoke Biden's name, I said "Obiden" totally involuntarily. It's like I couldn't help it. ;D
But I think he's too old.
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. Clinton looked directly into the camera and suggested the millions she's extracted from Wall Street have had absolutely no impact on behavior, and now she wants to go after Bankers and Wall Street execs. The idiot will have to face those comments in the general election.... I can't wait!
No she won't. The Liberal Press controls the questions, just like they did with Obama.
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Maybe Christie realized that the same old "Obama sucks" line works only in small circles of the general electorate...
Yes, the ones paying the bills for everyone else.
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Its somewhat ironic, but you keep saying that same thing about Rubio.
All the candidates have a standard stump speech and they all say pretty much the same thing everywhere they go; except maybe Hillary, who changes her accent what she says based on who she is talking to.
FTFY
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Right now I can most envision a President Christie.
Plain spoken and forthright. Get 'er done swagger.
Not unlike Trump, but with more practical views.
Almost certainly not going to happen, but none of the rest inspire me at all.
The more I listen to Christie the more positive the effect. And yes, the fact that he hugged Barry, is irrelevant to me. The downside, and sad side from a "how people view other people", is that his physical appearance won't allow him to be POTUS.
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The more I listen to Christie the more positive the effect. And yes, the fact that he hugged Barry, is irrelevant to me. The downside, and sad side from a "how people view other people", is that his physical appearance won't allow him to be POTUS.
I don't know....a wimpy little guy that can't throw a baseball was elected, twice. I don't like Christie, but it's not because of his size.
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I don't know....a wimpy little guy that can't throw a baseball was elected, twice. I don't like Christie, but it's not because of his size.
Christie is at 3% in all the most recent polls. (2.5% in RCP average.) What in the hell is he still doing in this race? His only role now is to damage the front runners, as he did on Thursday with Rubio. (Don't get me wrong, Rubio self-immolated at the beginning of the debate, but finished strong).
Once again Reince Priebus demonstrates his incompetence by not controlling the field, allowing the circular firing squad, and allowing leftists like Martha Raddatz to moderate a GOP debate.
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Christie is at 3% in all the most recent polls. (2.5% in RCP average.) What in the hell is he still doing in this race?
I agree. It's time for him and several others to go home, but that has nothing to do with his girth.
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I agree. It's time for him and several others to go home, but that has nothing to do with his girth.
Not true. Hey, I know a guy who was fat and was denied promotions in the past. It is well known that attractive people have an advantage in nearly everything.
(can people grasp the sarcasms and satire?)
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I don't know....a wimpy little guy that can't throw a baseball was elected, twice. I don't like Christie, but it's not because of his size.
I don't want to see an authoritarian cop in the White House.
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This is so painful. Wake me up in October. :(
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Once again Reince Priebus demonstrates his incompetence by not controlling the field, allowing the circular firing squad, and allowing leftists like Martha Raddatz to moderate a GOP debate.
What business is it of the RNC to "control the field"?
The electorate controls who wins or loses primaries. If someone has or can raise the money to run, the party has no business kicking them out.
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What business is it of the RNC to "control the field"?
The electorate controls who wins or loses primaries. If someone has or can raise the money to run, the party has no business kicking them out.
Absolutely agreed!
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And yes, the fact that he hugged Barry, is irrelevant to me.
If anything, I view that as a plus.
Your state get socked by a natural disaster, and the president visits, likely offering federal aid.
Credit where credit is due, and appreciation - and a show of that appreciation - where appreciation is due.
Unless one commits a logical fallacy I just came up with: Argumentum Ad Obamium.
It takes the form: Obama did x, therefore x is wrong.
Which is apparently pretty common, and reeks of blind partisanship.
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It takes the form: Obama did x, therefore x is wrong.
I wouldn't call it a logical certainty, but if I get even odds, I'd bet that way, and make good money!
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I wouldn't call it a logical certainty, but if I get even odds, I'd bet that way, and make good money!
Other than finally signing off on the Bin Laden deal (reluctantly, IMO), I am having trouble thinking of anything, anything at all, he has done right.
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Other than finally signing off on the Bin Laden deal (reluctantly, IMO), I am having trouble thinking of anything, anything at all, he has done right.
Even there...had it been me in his place I would have directed the armed forces of the United States to do whatever was necessary to capture or kill UBL the moment I had been sworn in. I would not have demanded to approve the final order to do so. What if he had slipped away while they were waiting for the President to give the GO order?
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Even there...had it been me in his place I would have directed the armed forces of the United States to do whatever was necessary to capture or kill UBL the moment I had been sworn in. I would not have demanded to approve the final order to do so. What if he had slipped away while they were waiting for the President to give the GO order?
At this late date, as he approaches his last few months, I think there is only one thing he could do that would earn him a modicum of respect from me. That would be to allow and encourage Justice to indict Hillary Clinton for endangering national security. I am reminded of Senator Howard Baker (TN), a Republican who warned Nixon he was going to be impeached with no support from his Party and encouraged him to resign.
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Other than finally signing off on the Bin Laden deal (reluctantly, IMO), I am having trouble thinking of anything, anything at all, he has done right.
I met a fellow I knew from a Light Sport site for lunch a couple years back.
He literally said the words, "I LOVE Obama!"
He went on to say he could not think of a single thing Obama had done that was wrong*.
I listed a few things, but at most got a minor concession on the "Red Line" thing in Syria.
The fellow is not a stupid person. My take is that he just views incoming information through a different lens than most of us here seem to. Then again, nearly all my high school buddies and extended family, also fairly bright people, see things through a similar lens and are staunch Democrats - I'm quite the odd man out at get togethers.
Anyway, it's just interesting how our preconceptions, once formed, will find confirmation from selected sources. It's called confirmation bias, and does not only affect the other side.
*Got this, via FaceBook, from one of the above-mentioned family members yesterday:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1673/24797126012_cce29c8629.jpg)
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Not true. Hey, I know a guy who was fat and was denied promotions in the past. It is well known that attractive people have an advantage in nearly everything.
(can people grasp the sarcasms and satire?)
No. I can't. Because your statement is painfully true.