Post by: Ron22 on January 07, 2019, 01:22:51 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/politics/trump-address-border-visit.html
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President Trump announced on Monday that he would address the nation from the Oval Office on Tuesday evening to discuss what he called the crisis at the southern border, and the White House said that later in the week he would travel to the border as part of his effort to persuade Americans of the need for a wall — the sticking point in negotiations with Democrats which caused a government shutdown.
Best part
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It was not immediately clear which outlets would carry his address. The four major broadcast networks — ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC — confirmed receiving the White House request on Monday for Mr. Trump to speak during the 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time slot,,but producers had not decided whether to grant him the time. Pre-empting prime-time coverage is an expensive proposition for television executives, who have sold millions of dollars’ worth of advertising against entertainment programming.
Any bets on which ONE will air it?
Post by: Anthony on January 07, 2019, 01:32:53 PM
Post by: Lucifer on January 07, 2019, 01:34:26 PM
Let them decide to do otherwise. You can bet right afterwards they will have their panels of “pundits” jump in and try to shred it apart. Probably even get Brennan and Comey to jump in.
Post by: Old Crow on January 07, 2019, 06:40:27 PM
Post by: Mase on January 07, 2019, 07:15:05 PM
Post by: Lucifer on January 07, 2019, 07:23:50 PM
WTF? Since when has a President given a national address that the opposite party be given equal time?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 07, 2019, 07:39:46 PM
Dims are demanding equal time.It looks to me like President should be the one demanding equal time. The left has all the mainstream outlets with which to blast their duplicitous and Trump-scourging message 24/7.
WTF? Since when has a President given a national address that the opposite party be given equal time?
Post by: Anthony on January 08, 2019, 06:31:31 AM
It looks to me like President should be the one demanding equal time. The left has all the mainstream outlets with which to blast their duplicitous and Trump-scourging message 24/7.
The Democrats control:
NBC
MSNBC
Comcast
CNN
CBS
ABC
PBS
NYT
Washpo
Reuters
Disney
Amazon
Yahoo
Microsoft
Apple
All Silicon Valley/Tech
Social Media
Education
Most of Government
Much of Corporate America
Public Sector UNIONS
Private Sector UNIONS
Entertainment Industry
Hollywood
So that it what Trump faces.
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 06:56:31 AM
The Democrats control:
NBC
MSNBC
Comcast
CNN
CBS
ABC
PBS
NYT
Washpo
Reuters
Disney
Amazon
Yahoo
Microsoft
Apple
All Silicon Valley/Tech
Social Media
Education
Most of Government
Much of Corporate America
Public Sector UNIONS
Private Sector UNIONS
Entertainment Industry
Hollywood
So that it what Trump faces.
You left out FoxNews.
The Murdoch brothers now run it, and both are hard core progressives.
Post by: Anthony on January 08, 2019, 07:09:50 AM
You left out FoxNews.
The Murdoch brothers now run it, and both are hard core progressives.
I cut the cable a year ago, so haven't seen Fox News since, so I don't know where they've gone, but yes the Murdock kids are elite, liberal/progressive globalists. I left out a lot of other lib/prog organizations, and institutions. The LEFT has done an excellent job of convincing the weak minded they are the way to go. It is scary, and similar to the mass hysteria seen in Germany in the 1930's.
Post by: Number7 on January 08, 2019, 07:19:33 AM
Nothing says communists (they call themselves democrats these days) like idiots contradicting themselves while attempting to imitate sane adults.
Post by: nddons on January 08, 2019, 08:19:31 AM
The president asked for 8 minutes. They literally own the remaining 1,432 minutes of the day. Sit down, shut the fuck up and listen for a change.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 08, 2019, 08:47:50 AM
... idiots contradicting themselves while attempting to imitate sane adults.Gems like that are why I usually try to make it through your lashing outs. :) Spot on!
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 08, 2019, 08:50:25 AM
https://conservativehardliner.com/president-trump-has-democrats-no-win-situation
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Look at this situation from the perspective of the Democrats. The non-essential government workers will be screaming like stuck pigs, along with beneficiaries of other unfunded programs like SNAP. These people care more about getting paid than holding out to kill the wall. If the Democrats don't cave, they will only enrage this base of moochers because the wall will be under construction, so why continue to hold out? We all know the President will flaunt this daily, applying more political pressure on the Democrats until they crack. President Trump wins and the Democrats lose.
The other scenario is the Democrats are forced to cave and agree to the $5 billion. However, it is quite plausible the President will up the ante. When they come crawling to the President, begging to end the shutdown, why not get more while they're desperate? President Trump wins and the Democrats lose.
Post by: Anthony on January 08, 2019, 08:52:10 AM
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 09:07:08 AM
Since when does the opposition party get to demand equal time for an address to the nation? My God, the egos of these people.
The president asked for 8 minutes. They literally own the remaining 1,432 minutes of the day. Sit down, shut the fuck up and listen for a change.
Nancy Pelosi has already stated that under the constitution she is the President’s equal......
Funny, I can’t seem to locate that clause.
Post by: Little Joe on January 08, 2019, 09:09:11 AM
Sweet.Why would non-essential employees be screaming like stuck pigs? Don't they almost always get back pay for their time off?
https://conservativehardliner.com/president-trump-has-democrats-no-win-situation
I know a couple of people (government) employees that always look forward to shutdowns, regardless of the issue.
Post by: Mr Pou on January 08, 2019, 09:19:25 AM
The LEFT has done an excellent job of convincing the weak minded they are the way to go. It is scary, and similar to the mass hysteria seen in Germany in the 1930's.
The parallels are quite shocking actually.
Post by: Mr Pou on January 08, 2019, 09:22:25 AM
Why would non-essential employees be screaming like stuck pigs? Don't they almost always get back pay for their time off?
I know a couple of people (government) employees that always look forward to shutdowns, regardless of the issue.
Yes, exactly. A friend of mine is bitching about not receiving paychecks....while she's at the beach in Florida until this blows over.
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 09:31:43 AM
Why would non-essential employees be screaming like stuck pigs? Don't they almost always get back pay for their time off?
I know a couple of people (government) employees that always look forward to shutdowns, regardless of the issue.
A lot of those live paycheck to paycheck. While it’s true they get back payed, the reality is they have no cash.
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 09:34:53 AM
Also, the hysterics of the left are ramping up.
https://apnews.com/9f3362c235dd47f6ac0ae580ae7265e0
Post by: Little Joe on January 08, 2019, 11:18:48 AM
A lot of those live paycheck to paycheck. While it’s true they get back payed, the reality is they have no cash.For a few of them, that is true and it is regrettable.
But for most of them, if they have not saved up a few weeks pay, then I feel no sympathy for them.
People that go into government service say they accept lower pay for better benefits. Except that these days, they get better pay AND better benefits than the private sector.
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 11:41:02 AM
For a few of them, that is true and it is regrettable.
But for most of them, if they have not saved up a few weeks pay, then I feel no sympathy for them.
People that go into government service say they accept lower pay for better benefits. Except that these days, they get better pay AND better benefits than the private sector.
Sorta true.
The jobs that offer low pay in industry often pay more in government. It the professional level jobs often pay less than industry. And the benefits aren’t as good as people assume they are. Under the old CSR it was a great pension, but under FERS it’s not that great unless someone has a 40+ year career, and even then it’s not that great.
I don’t desperage those who choose a gov career over industry. Lots of those civil servant types do a good job.
What is so bad is when congress uses them as hostages.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 08, 2019, 12:11:54 PM
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/mexicos_interior_minister_outlies_plans_to_secure_their_southern_border_against_illegal_immigrants.html
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/even_axios_links_opioid_epidemic_to_an_unwalled_border.html
And despite the new governor of CA’s flowery speech, isn’t it rather obvious that the horrible situations in CA that he vows to correct with more moonbat leftist policies actually were caused by the previous moonbat leftist policies?
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/01/ca_governor_newsome_sanctuary_to_all_who_seek_it.html
Post by: Ron22 on January 08, 2019, 02:32:34 PM
Since when does the opposition party get to demand equal time for an address to the nation? My God, the egos of these people.
The president asked for 8 minutes. They literally own the remaining 1,432 minutes of the day. Sit down, shut the fuck up and listen for a change.
Any bets on if Chuck and Nancy will be limited to the same amount of time as the President gets.
Post by: Old Crow on January 08, 2019, 04:33:28 PM
Post by: Little Joe on January 08, 2019, 04:37:35 PM
In my advanced age my memory isn't the best but I tend to think this 'rebuttal' thing began during the Nixon presidency when the Dims demanded equal time after a State of the Union speech.I'm also basing this on the memory of advancing age, but I recall "rebuttal" speeches to "State of the Union" speeches forever. But not for ordinary press conferences or other presidential addresses.
This isn't a State of the Union speech.
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 06:07:02 PM
It's finally beginning to dawn on them they are losing this fight.
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 08, 2019, 06:18:03 PM
I'm also basing this on the memory of advancing age, but I recall "rebuttal" speeches to "State of the Union" speeches forever. But not for ordinary press conferences or other presidential addresses.
This isn't a State of the Union speech.
"The practice began in 1966 when Republican U.S. Senator Everett Dirksen (Illinois) and U.S. Representative Gerald Ford (Michigan) appeared on TV to offer a response to the address by Democratic President Lyndon Johnson." Wikipedia's list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_to_the_State_of_the_Union_address (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_to_the_State_of_the_Union_address)
Could not find any indication whether there was any "rebuttal" to any of FDR's Fireside Chats.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 08, 2019, 06:18:51 PM
Given the hysteria of the MSM and dims today, they are really worried about this Presidential address tonight.They will use their response time to deny, dismiss and delegitimize the President and everything he says tonight.
It's finally beginning to dawn on them they are losing this fight.
As we have seen since since President Trump was elected, the media will continue to treat everything he does and the entire political scene under his leadership as if we are experiencing a somber national tragedy.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 08, 2019, 06:27:01 PM
"The practice began in 1966 when Republican U.S. Senator Everett Dirksen (Illinois) and U.S. Representative Gerald Ford (Michigan) appeared on TV to offer a response to the address by Democratic President Lyndon Johnson." Wikipedia's list:Remember on 60 Minutes when they used the last few minutes of the show for a segment called Point/Counterpoint, with a conservative and a liberal expressing different views on an issue?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_to_the_State_of_the_Union_address (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_to_the_State_of_the_Union_address)
Could not find any indication whether there was any "rebuttal" to any of FDR's Fireside Chats.
It was the best part of the show, and nothing of its kind did I see again until we discovered The McLaughlin Group.
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 06:47:04 PM
Remember on 60 Minutes when they used the last few minutes of the show for a segment called Point/Counterpoint, with a conservative and a liberal expressing different views on an issue?
It was the best part of the show, and nothing of its kind did I see again until we discovered The McLaughlin Group.
Post by: Rush on January 08, 2019, 06:49:50 PM
Edit: apparently they are
Post by: Rush on January 08, 2019, 06:56:12 PM
SNL was so funny back in the day.
Post by: Rush on January 08, 2019, 07:15:51 PM
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 07:17:35 PM
Well poo I was hoping he'd go ahead and declare a national emergency. Do y'all think he will if the Dems don't respond after this? It seemed he is hoping we will call our congressmen and change their minds. I don't see that happening.
He left the door open to meet with them tomorrow. If they still refuse, then he has no choice but to declare. And it's on them.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 08, 2019, 07:20:21 PM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 08, 2019, 07:24:34 PM
He left the door open to meet with them tomorrow. If they still refuse, then he has no choice but to declare. And it's on them.And they will not budge.
Post by: Number7 on January 08, 2019, 07:29:12 PM
That degree of hysterical selfishness is typical and typically delusional, but 100% democrat party (communist).
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 08, 2019, 07:29:27 PM
That has not been done in a very long time. Instead they use continuing resolutions to fund parts of the government at a time. These resolutions allow Congress to spend whatever they want with no limitations as long as the President signs it.
Congress should do its job.
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 07:32:36 PM
And they will not budge.
He's giving them the rope. If they want to hang themselves, then so be it.
Next step is emergency order. Of course some west coast AG will file an injunction, but once it hits the SC, the law is very clear. Even the dims have admitted he can do it.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 08, 2019, 07:41:31 PM
Did anyone else think of that painting of the farmer and his wife? Schumer just needed a pitchfork.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on January 08, 2019, 07:42:39 PM
I have never hated those two as much as I do tonight. Definitely pre-written directly to base, not even a true response to the President.
Did anyone else think of that painting of the farmer and his wife? Schumer just needed a pitchfork.
I was thinking Gomez and Morticia.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 08, 2019, 07:46:04 PM
I was thinking Gomez and Morticia.;D ;D ;D
I bet Jim could find us a good comparison shot of a couple of aliens on the Enterprise view screen!
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 08, 2019, 07:50:52 PM
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 07:52:45 PM
Post by: Old Crow on January 08, 2019, 08:05:52 PM
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 08:14:11 PM
From the Dims I heard no solution to the border problem. Only for Pres Trump to get the government back to work and that he is childish, immature, etc but NO solutions.
They don't have any. Their answer to everything is "Hate Trump".
Post by: Rush on January 08, 2019, 08:19:01 PM
I have never hated those two as much as I do tonight. Definitely pre-written directly to base, not even a true response to the President.
Did anyone else think of that painting of the farmer and his wife? Schumer just needed a pitchfork.
I knew I wouldn't be able to stomach it so I turned the TV off straightaway and watched something more pleasant: YouTube videos about spinal muscular atrophy.
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 08:33:32 PM
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 08:41:14 PM
Post by: Lucifer on January 08, 2019, 08:45:35 PM
Post by: Jim Logajan on January 08, 2019, 11:40:59 PM
I was thinking Gomez and Morticia.
John Astin (the original Gomez, and still alive) is immensely better looking Schumer.
Carolyn Jones (the original Morticia, sadly passed on) was a hot babe; Pelosi is a steamed bitch.
Post by: nddons on January 08, 2019, 11:48:54 PM
And the dumb and dumber show looked like a bad SNL skit.
Post by: Anthony on January 09, 2019, 06:46:15 AM
John Astin (the original Gomez, and still alive) is immensely better looking Schumer.
Carolyn Jones (the original Morticia, sadly passed on) was a hot babe; Pelosi is a steamed bitch.
And that we can certainly agree. Carolyn Jones, and Yvonne DeCarlo as Lily Munster were two of my favorites as a kid in the 60's. Then there's Barbara Eden, Elizabeth Montgomery, Tina Louise...……..
John Astin was funny as hell! But I liked him in ahhh, a different way. :)
Post by: bflynn on January 09, 2019, 09:21:50 AM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 09, 2019, 09:50:47 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 09, 2019, 10:19:15 AM
Post by: Steingar on January 10, 2019, 08:24:16 AM
I agreed with every word that Trump spoke tonight.
And the dumb and dumber show looked like a bad SNL skit.
Trump could say that black is white and you'd agree with him.
Post by: Lucifer on January 10, 2019, 08:25:23 AM
Trump could say that black is white and you'd agree with him.
Our troll is back.
Post by: Little Joe on January 10, 2019, 08:28:19 AM
Trump could say that black is white and you'd agree with him.Racist! I thought liberals saw no difference between black and white.
Post by: Number7 on January 10, 2019, 08:38:24 AM
Trump could say that black is white and you'd agree with him.
Some say stupid things in an attempt to make themselves feel smart.
You post stupid things because you're stupid.
Post by: Username on January 10, 2019, 08:42:25 AM
Trump could say that black is white and you'd agree with him.Black is white for very light values of black.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 10, 2019, 08:44:34 AM
Can’t have conservatives thinking for themselves, it just won’t do, so repeat the mantras.
Mantra #167:
Trump could say that black is white and you'd agree with him.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 10, 2019, 08:46:10 AM
Black is white for very light values of black.Heck, for Rachel Dolezal, white is black.
Post by: Little Joe on January 10, 2019, 08:49:04 AM
Trump could say that black is white and you'd agree with him.Trump could say that black is black and white is white and butt-hurt liberals would disagree with him.
Post by: Anthony on January 10, 2019, 08:50:39 AM
Energy prices, and our Energy Policy is much better under Trump. Because of TRUMP'S Energy Policy Russia is getting killed due to low energy prices which is the basis for their economy. Putin hates that, and Trump for costing him Billions, or more. It is obvious Russia had nothing to do with Trump's election, or Trump wouldn't formulate policy like this.
We now at least are attempting to enhance Border Security and stop the flow of Illegals, potential criminals, terrorists, and drug dealers into the U.S. Yet people like Michael are brainwashed and just yell Racism!!! The Media is also responsible for this DISINFORMATION.
So Libs. What is SO BAD under a Trump Presicency? How are your lives worse now than with Obama?
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on January 10, 2019, 08:51:40 AM
Trump could say that black is white and you'd agree with him.
If PRESIDENT Trump said black is white you psychotics would call him a racist and protest for his immediate impeachment.
Post by: Lucifer on January 10, 2019, 09:28:56 AM
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— “Rural Utility Service.” This program costs taxpayers $8.2 billion/year and has no actual purpose after its original intent — bringing electricity to rural communities — was long ago achieved. It’s now being used to bring broadband access to small communities (usually with populations of less than 20,000). However there’s no indication the “beneficiaries” of this expensive government agency actually appreciate the program, and the majority of its projects are not completed on time or within budget.
— Sugar Subsidies. America, as Democrats frequently intone, faces a health crisis. What they don’t tell us is that it’s largely of their own making, as Congress subsidizes the production of unhealthy foods like sugar and high-fructose corn syrup. Eliminating sugar subsidies alone would save $6 billion, enough to fund the border wall; it would also have the added benefit of helping curb the nation’s obesity epidemic.
— Community Development Grants. These grants were created in the 70s to revitalize failing American cities. The program has almost always been plagued with dysfunction, with grants going to wealthy communities and other recipients failing to produce “accountability and results.” Citizens Against Government Waste reports that even President Obama called for reining in the program. It’s elimination would save $15 billion over 5 years.
— The United Nations. As the United Nation’s largest contributor, the U.S. in 2016 donated $10 billion to the U.N. As CAGW notes, reducing these contributions just 25 percent would create a savings of $12.5 billion over 10 years. Of the money Congress appropriates for the United Nations, $5 million taxpayer dollars are itemized for abortions in foreign countries.
— Amtrak. Congress could sell Amtrak to the private sector where it would almost certainly be operated more efficiently, but instead it’s showered in billions of dollars of taxpayer subsidies. Over the next five years, these subsidies will cost $9.7 billion.
— Unused Real Estate. Congress appropriates money to maintain federal real estate that’s not actually being used. Per CAGW, an October 31, 2017, CRS report found that, “In FY2016, federal agencies owned 3,120 buildings that were vacant (unutilized), and another 7,859 that were partially empty (underutilized).” Current laws require the government to undergo a series of steps before considering a sale of these buildings. Were selling this unused property prioritized, the 5-year savings are estimated at $15 billion. Simply maintaining the unused buildings annually costs $1.7 billion.
— Foreign Aid. American taxpayers currently spend more than $50 billion a year helping develop foreign countries. Many of the recipients are not known for being America’s closest allies — such as Egypt, South Sudan, Uganda, South Africa, Russia, the Congo, Sudan, and Zambia — which raises the question of what Americans are receiving in exchange for all of this aid. Cutting these donations back just 10 percent would be enough to fund the wall.
Despite many of of the above projects having arguably negative value, Congress continues to fund them. Eliminating any one of the above would create more than enough savings to fund the White House’s border wall appropriation request.
Of course, other smaller federal spending projects are even more wasteful. Examples abound, but here are a few that are at least amusing:
— The feds spend $613,634 to boost “intimacy and trust” of transgender women and their male partners (The Washington Free Beason)
— The feds spent $5 million paying hipsters to stop smoking and then blog about it (as well as use cool anti-smoking swag — like beer koozies). (Readers Digest)
— Northwestern University has received more than $3 million in National Institutes of Health to watch hamster fights. “Some of those experiments involved injecting hamsters with steroids, then putting another hamster in the cage to see if the drugged rodents were more aggressive when protecting their territory. This program has since been halted following protests from animal rights activists,” Readers Digest reports.
— The feds spend $1,009,762 training “social justice” math teachers (The Washington Free Beacon)
— “The government spent at least $518,000 in federal grants to study how cocaine affects the sexual behavior of Japanese quails,” Readers Digest reports.
— The Federal Register is legally required to be printed daily and distributed to Congressional offices despite most never being read and all of the information being available online. Stopping this unnecessary printing would save $1 million a year.
https://news.grabien.com/story-things-democrats-have-funded-cost-more-border-wall
https://www.cagw.org/reporting/2018-prime-cuts
Post by: nddons on January 10, 2019, 09:32:51 AM
Trump could say that black is white and you'd agree with him.Thanks for contributing.
I know it was not your intention, but I do think that Trump looks at race like Martin Luther King looked at race: judge men by their character, not the color of their skin. So yes, for you crayon-drawing academic elites, in some ways black is white.
The hyperbolic, slanderous and libelous accusations of being a racist against Trump (with absolutely zero evidence) and in turn against his supporters only serves to increase Trump’s support, because even left leaning moderates see the utter unfairness of how Trump is being treated, and are rallying to his support.
So keep it up, please.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 10, 2019, 09:36:53 AM
Thanks for contributing.Yes, do continue, libs. Thanks for illustrating to us how white is actually orange.
I know it was not your intention, but I do think that Trump looks at race like Martin Luther King looked at race: judge men by their character, not the color of their skin. So yes, for you crayon-drawing academic elites, in some ways black is white.
The hyperbolic, slanderous and libelous accusations of being a racist against Trump (with absolutely zero evidence) and in turn against his supporters only serves to increase Trump’s support, because even left leaning moderates see the utter unfairness of how Trump is being treated, and are rallying to his support.
So keep it up, please.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/01/09/wow-seattle-news-room-intentionally-manipulated-video-of-president-trump-for-broadcast/
Post by: Anthony on January 10, 2019, 09:38:00 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 10, 2019, 10:11:07 AM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 10, 2019, 10:15:12 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1083404900862545920
Post by: nddons on January 10, 2019, 12:01:16 PM
Gotta love it when the left provides the ammo....Awesome. I see Trump continuing this with quotes supporting a wall from Obama, Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, Clinton, et. al.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1083404900862545920