Post by: Lucifer on January 30, 2019, 03:38:49 PM
Post by: Anthony on January 30, 2019, 03:40:53 PM
Post by: Lucifer on January 30, 2019, 03:45:06 PM
RBG is gravely ill, but it seems they are trying hard to ignore this. The progressive nightmare is Trump getting to replace her, and his 3rd SCOTUS pick in two years.
Post by: nddons on January 30, 2019, 03:51:18 PM
Post by: bflynn on January 30, 2019, 07:22:35 PM
If she dies, the media isn’t going to be able to keep it quiet.
Stop salivating.
Post by: Lucifer on January 30, 2019, 07:36:15 PM
If things are on schedule, she should be at home recuperating. She isn’t due to be back to work until mid-late Feb.
Didn't know you was a close family friend.
Stop salivating.
Stop acting like a prick.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 31, 2019, 05:54:25 AM
Just seems odd, the media silence.Maybe they'll let Feinstein and Harris make the next pick like they apparently are for the 9th Circuit.
RBG is gravely ill, but it seems they are trying hard to ignore this. The progressive nightmare is Trump getting to replace her, and his 3rd SCOTUS pick in two years.
Post by: Lucifer on January 31, 2019, 06:55:41 AM
Maybe they'll let Feinstein and Harris make the next pick like they apparently are for the 9th Circuit.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/01/31/crisis-averted-trump-decided-to-reject-the-alleged-shoddy-feinstein-harris-deal-n2540547
Post by: bflynn on January 31, 2019, 08:13:54 AM
Didn't know you was a close family friend.
I'm just open minded enough to read more than Fox News. Her expected recovery schedule has been talked about and I'm not the prick for knowing that. I cannot help if you are talking about things that you are ignorant about...you should inform yourself if you don't want to get called out for being wrong. All on you.
Seriously guys, stop with the death watch already. It makes you (Republicans) look like asses. Yes, it might happen and I would not be upset to see another conservative on the court. But I'll also be happy if RGB lives.
Post by: Anthony on January 31, 2019, 08:24:23 AM
I'm just open minded enough to read more than Fox News. Her expected recovery schedule has been talked about and I'm not the prick for knowing that. I cannot help if you are talking about things that you are ignorant about...you should inform yourself if you don't want to get called out for being wrong. All on you.
Seriously guys, stop with the death watch already. It makes you (Republicans) look like asses. Yes, it might happen and I would not be upset to see another conservative on the court. But I'll also be happy if RGB lives.
I don't know if you are talking about me, but my issue is not with wanting RBG to die, but the double standard the Media has by not talking about her condition. Maybe you've heard it, but I haven't, and I don't watch Fox News, nor use their website very much. I haven't seen it in the other media outlets.
It is obvious to me the vast majority of the Media isn't covering it because they are so scared of another Trump appointment, and are basiclally sticking their fingers in their ears, going la, la, la, la, la, la......
Post by: Lucifer on January 31, 2019, 08:25:11 AM
I'm just open minded enough to read more than Fox News. Her expected recovery schedule has been talked about and I'm not the prick for knowing that. I cannot help if you are talking about things that you are ignorant about...you should inform yourself if you don't want to get called out for being wrong. All on you.
Seriously guys, stop with the death watch already. It makes you (Republicans) look like asses. Yes, it might happen and I would not be upset to see another conservative on the court. But I'll also be happy if RGB lives.
You're a condescending little prick.
Yes, I read a variety of publications, and the ongoing question is the absence of RBG on the court.
We'll be sure to run forum topics by you before posting so we can obtain your "blessing" to discuss them. ::)
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on January 31, 2019, 09:16:39 AM
I'm just open minded enough to read more than Fox News. Her expected recovery schedule has been talked about and I'm not the prick for knowing that. I cannot help if you are talking about things that you are ignorant about...you should inform yourself if you don't want to get called out for being wrong. All on you.
Seriously guys, stop with the death watch already. It makes you (Republicans) look like asses. Yes, it might happen and I would not be upset to see another conservative on the court. But I'll also be happy if RGB lives.
Possibly you've forgotten the hubbub over Melania after her surgery.
Post by: Lucifer on January 31, 2019, 09:51:55 AM
Possibly you've forgotten the hubbub over Melania after her surgery.
He doesn't care, he's only here to virtue signal.
Post by: Username on January 31, 2019, 10:04:05 AM
Post by: nddons on January 31, 2019, 10:40:56 AM
I'm just open minded enough to read more than Fox News. Her expected recovery schedule has been talked about and I'm not the prick for knowing that. I cannot help if you are talking about things that you are ignorant about...you should inform yourself if you don't want to get called out for being wrong. All on you.Lighten up, Francis.
Seriously guys, stop with the death watch already. It makes you (Republicans) look like asses. Yes, it might happen and I would not be upset to see another conservative on the court. But I'll also be happy if RGB lives.
We’re all terminal on this sphere. RBG is closer to the terminus than any other member of the court. She was gravely ill with a condition (cancer), and had an infection (pneumonia) that can easily kill people of her age and poor health. She’s not long for this earth.
We are noticing the utter hypocrisy of the left and MSM to utterly ignore the facts laid out above. It’s almost as if they are all huddled in a war room (the MSM and the democrats) devising a battle strategy to deal with the inevitable, while acting as if she’s got another good 10 years on her. They are pathetic in their lack of desire to state the obvious.
Post by: bflynn on January 31, 2019, 10:49:54 AM
If you’re not interested in hearing that, then let me suggest that Democrats and the media are going to take conservatives over the coals.
Contrary to what one ass here claims, this is not about virtue. Right now I prefer what Republicans are doing, but with regards to RGB, you are screwing it up. Is it critical? No, the world isn’t going to end but do try to maintain enough decorum not to cheer when she dies. You come across just as hateful as the leftists do and in case you were counting, that isn’t a good thing.
Post by: Lucifer on January 31, 2019, 10:56:29 AM
Hey, I am offering an opinion from the middle on how conservatives are looking like vultures, hoping RGB dies soon.
If you’re not interested in hearing that, then let me suggest that Democrats and the media are going to take conservatives over the coals.
Contrary to what one ass here claims, this is not about virtue. Right now I prefer what Republicans are doing, but with regards to RGB, you are screwing it up. Is it critical? No, the world isn’t going to end but do try to maintain enough decorum not to cheer when she dies. You come across just as hateful as the leftists do and in case you were counting, that isn’t a good thing.
And the ass being quoted above is all about virtue signalling. Stan is dead on with his assessment, and that's the crux of the conversation.
Post by: Little Joe on January 31, 2019, 11:12:34 AM
That is much more logical and acceptable to me than the way the dems tried to keep Kavanaugh out.
Post by: Username on January 31, 2019, 12:11:42 PM
The fact of the matter is that SCOTUS is a lifetime appointment. The only hope we have to get rid of her is her death. She won’t resigne Dems. I give no apology for anticipating her leaving the court in the only manner she will allow.The third option after death or resignation is impeachment. This is what the Dems are working toward with Kavanaugh. I haven't heard much about it lately, but I'm sure that it's under consideration. I don't see that as an option with RBG. Could she be removed for being medically unfit?
That is much more logical and acceptable to me than the way the dems tried to keep Kavanaugh out.
Post by: bflynn on January 31, 2019, 12:16:32 PM
And the ass being quoted above is all about virtue signalling. Stan is dead on with his assessment, and that's the crux of the conversation.
Ok. Let me allow that maybe I misunderstood you.
Did you 1) not know her status and expectations or did you 2) know and you didn’t care? Or was this only about wanting to stir the pot? Those are the options that I see, if you had other intentions, please elaborate.
My thought right now is that you don’t like being called out and your ego is getting the better of you.
I’ve been doing this for over 25 years, before the cookie recipe started around. You over estimate your ability to be nasty.
Post by: nddons on January 31, 2019, 12:35:39 PM
Hey, I am offering an opinion from the middle on how conservatives are looking like vultures, hoping RGB dies soon.You see a vastly different world than I see.
If you’re not interested in hearing that, then let me suggest that Democrats and the media are going to take conservatives over the coals.
Contrary to what one ass here claims, this is not about virtue. Right now I prefer what Republicans are doing, but with regards to RGB, you are screwing it up. Is it critical? No, the world isn’t going to end but do try to maintain enough decorum not to cheer when she dies. You come across just as hateful as the leftists do and in case you were counting, that isn’t a good thing.
I never see conservatives rejoice in a political figure’s death. We just don’t do that. That is in stark contrast to the ghoulishness of the left’s disciples who on social media actively wish a painful death upon anyone who is Christian, conservative, or white. You see it, and if you don’t, you aren’t looking.
Further, spare me about “take conservatives over the coals.” That is done daily - hourly - by the MSM. God forbid a teenager wear a MAGA hat. That hat triggers the most vile, frothing, false and fraudulent narrative not just by their disciples, but by their mouthpieces in the media and the the politicians that they worship.
The MAGA term is now deemed the literal equivalent of a Nazi or a Klan member, and anyone wearing one is literally open season to the virtue signaling social justice warriors who justify their hate, and VIOLENCE, against MAGA wearers as trying to eradicate Naziism and the KKK from the earth.
Post by: Lucifer on January 31, 2019, 12:37:00 PM
Ok. Let me allow that maybe I misunderstood you.
Did you 1) not know her status and expectations or did you 2) know and you didn’t care? Or was this only about wanting to stir the pot? Those are the options that I see, if you had other intentions, please elaborate.
My thought right now is that you don’t like being called out and your ego is getting the better of you.
I’ve been doing this for over 25 years, before the cookie recipe started around. You over estimate your ability to be nasty.
Like recently suggested, "Lighten up Francis".
And apparently it triggers you when you are called out on your bullshit virtue signaling.
Post by: Lucifer on January 31, 2019, 12:45:54 PM
You see a vastly different world than I see.
I never see conservatives rejoice in a political figure’s death. We just don’t do that. That is in stark contrast to the ghoulishness of the left’s disciples who on social media actively wish a painful death upon anyone who is Christian, conservative, or white. You see it, and if you don’t, you aren’t looking.
Further, spare me about “take conservatives over the coals.” That is done daily - hourly - by the MSM. God forbid a teenager wear a MAGA hat. That hat triggers the most vile, frothing, false and fraudulent narrative not just by their disciples, but by their mouthpieces in the media and the the politicians that they worship.
The MAGA term is now deemed the literal equivalent of a Nazi or a Klan member, and anyone wearing one is literally open season to the virtue signaling social justice warriors who justify their hate, and VIOLENCE, against MAGA wearers as trying to eradicate Naziism and the KKK from the earth.
I suspect Flynn is once again playing the troll.
And you are correct. If RBG was a conservative, the MSM would be running 24/7 coverage on her condition, whereabouts and bringing one pundit after another on set to tell us that it's time for her to step down, etc, etc. Look at the coverage the MSM gave Scalia when he unexpectedly passed away. There was no sympathy there, only cheering that BHO could replace him with a liberal.
But since she is the most liberal justice on the court, and the potential is very likely this will be Trump's 3rd SCOTUS pick, the MSM are totally ignoring the situation, hoping and praying she can hang on 2 more years.
RBG totally screwed up assuming Felonious Pantsuits was going to be president and her replacement would be another far left nutjob. Even democrats are pissed that it has come down to this.
Post by: nddons on January 31, 2019, 01:21:20 PM
You see a vastly different world than I see.A meme that pretty much proves my point.
I never see conservatives rejoice in a political figure’s death. We just don’t do that. That is in stark contrast to the ghoulishness of the left’s disciples who on social media actively wish a painful death upon anyone who is Christian, conservative, or white. You see it, and if you don’t, you aren’t looking.
Further, spare me about “take conservatives over the coals.” That is done daily - hourly - by the MSM. God forbid a teenager wear a MAGA hat. That hat triggers the most vile, frothing, false and fraudulent narrative not just by their disciples, but by their mouthpieces in the media and the the politicians that they worship.
The MAGA term is now deemed the literal equivalent of a Nazi or a Klan member, and anyone wearing one is literally open season to the virtue signaling social justice warriors who justify their hate, and VIOLENCE, against MAGA wearers as trying to eradicate Naziism and the KKK from the earth.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190131/5e923d38b0e5807f30949f958f04bb64.jpg)
Post by: Anthony on January 31, 2019, 01:28:15 PM
Post by: bflynn on January 31, 2019, 01:48:03 PM
I never see conservatives rejoice in a political figure’s death. We just don’t do that.
I would agree that I have never seen it before now.
However, there are many conservatives who are looking for RBG to die and some that will cheer when it happens. It is wrong and in the origins of this thread I see it.
RGB is on schedule for recovery. It is premature to ask why she isn’t back at work. In fact I think it will probably be premature before the beginning of March because these things do not go on a time table. Anyone who has had an elderly parent get injured knows that.
The doctors said mid-late Feb. Weird would be if she was back now.
Post by: bflynn on January 31, 2019, 01:50:38 PM
I suspect Flynn is once again playing the troll.
You suspect wrongly.
When you started this thread, did you know that the doctors had said mid-Feb for her return?
I suspect you don’t want to look bad, so you will dodge that question.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 31, 2019, 01:54:27 PM
Post by: Lucifer on January 31, 2019, 02:03:55 PM
You suspect wrongly.
When you started this thread, did you know that the doctors had said mid-Feb for her return?
I've read varying accounts. I've read that clerks in her office have been told that her return is doubtful. I've also read medical professionals commenting that with her illness/condition that a recovery in that short of time is highly doubtful but wishful thinking.
Also, the WH is making preparations to replace her, quietly. One would assume that they would have a much better idea as to what is going on.
I've also read many other versions. What is clear is the MSM being very quiet.
I suspect you don’t want to look bad, so you will dodge that question.
You can resume your virtue signaling and trolling now. You're a one trick pony.
Post by: nddons on January 31, 2019, 02:11:50 PM
I would agree that I have never seen it before now.You have never seen it before now. But NOW you know that conservatives who’ll cheer when she dies because ... you’re so smart?
However, there are many conservatives who are looking for RBG to die and some that will cheer when it happens. It is wrong and in the origins of this thread I see it.
RGB is on schedule for recovery. It is premature to ask why she isn’t back at work. In fact I think it will probably be premature before the beginning of March because these things do not go on a time table. Anyone who has had an elderly parent get injured knows that.
The doctors said mid-late Feb. Weird would be if she was back now.
You didn’t see it with Ted Kennedy, an evil man who let a woman drown to protect his reputation. You didn’t see it with Paul Welstone, who’s funeral democrats turned into a hateful political rally. But now conservatives will cheer the death of an octogenarian? Give me a break.
That doesn’t mean that there aren’t major, earth shaking political implications to her eventual death.
And that you know so much about what her doctors are saying is ... odd.
Post by: bflynn on January 31, 2019, 02:23:10 PM
You have never seen it before now. But NOW you know that conservatives who’ll cheer when she dies because ... you’re so smart?
Because I'm not embedded in right wing culture. I've gotten comments from friends on the left who think that republicans are salivating over the prospect of RBG dying quickly, exactly over comments like the ones that opened this thread. It isn't my perception. When you're in the middle of it all, it's easy to miss how you're being perceived. Republicans do not come across well when they talk about RGB dying.
I call it like I see it. You're free to disagree. The only reasons I can think of for this thread are ignorance or malice. I would like to assume ignorance, but the opportunity to answer that has been dodged twice, I suspect because of ego.
I'm open to hearing a different reason.
Post by: Lucifer on January 31, 2019, 02:31:12 PM
Because I'm not embedded in right wing culture. I've gotten comments from friends on the left who think that republicans are salivating over the prospect of RBG dying quickly, exactly over comments like the ones that opened this thread.
Here is the post that opened this thread:
Best kept secret in DC?
So Mr. Intellectual, please show us where I was "salivating". What part of that post did I mention I was hopeful she was dying??
Besides your virtue signaling you've now graduated into projection.
It isn't my perception. When you're in the middle of it all, it's easy to miss how you're being perceived. Republicans do not come across well when they talk about RGB dying.
You poor snowflake. Need a safe room with some playdough and coloring books?
I call it like I see it. You're free to disagree. The only reasons I can think of for this thread are ignorance or malice. I would like to assume ignorance, but the opportunity to answer that has been dodged twice, I suspect because of ego.
I'm open to hearing a different reason.
No one has dodged anything. More of your projection.
After this post by you, it's abundantly clear you are back to trolling (which you have done previously, and admitted it).
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on January 31, 2019, 02:38:02 PM
Because I'm not embedded in right wing culture. I've gotten comments from friends on the left who think that republicans are salivating over the prospect of RBG dying quickly, exactly over comments like the ones that opened this thread. It isn't my perception. When you're in the middle of it all, it's easy to miss how you're being perceived. Republicans do not come across well when they talk about RGB dying.What an unimpeachable source!
I call it like I see it. You're free to disagree. The only reasons I can think of for this thread are ignorance or malice. I would like to assume ignorance, but the opportunity to answer that has been dodged twice, I suspect because of ego.
I'm open to hearing a different reason.
Your leftie friends and you can paint Lucifer, me and multitudinous conservatives with the same brush, saying we’re backing the hearse up to her door by bringing the subject up, but you’d be grossly mistaken.
As has been pointed out, optics are subject to confirmation bias.
Post by: nddons on January 31, 2019, 02:47:16 PM
Because I'm not embedded in right wing culture. I've gotten comments from friends on the left who think that republicans are salivating over the prospect of RBG dying quickly, exactly over comments like the ones that opened this thread. It isn't my perception. When you're in the middle of it all, it's easy to miss how you're being perceived. Republicans do not come across well when they talk about RGB dying.Your really are insufferably petulant today.
I call it like I see it. You're free to disagree. The only reasons I can think of for this thread are ignorance or malice. I would like to assume ignorance, but the opportunity to answer that has been dodged twice, I suspect because of ego.
I'm open to hearing a different reason.
We all greatly appreciate your advice to republicans, and when we have our Pilot Spin Conservative Action Committee Convention will take it under advisement.
In the mean time, you may not want to take what your lefty friends are saying at face value, because of what they are ALLEGEDLY hearing. The MSM are the masters of PROJECTION, and they project what they think republicans/conservatives/Christians/whites are thinking or doing with ZERO PROOF WHATSOEVER. They do it every day, they do it over and over and over and over and over, so that it becomes such an alleged truth that a conservative et. al. has to open up their argument by refuting what is being said about them, and are called a liar for doing so.
The left is INSIDIOUS about this. They know that a lie told often enough eventually becomes the truth , and when they own the mouthpieces to tell it, they own the argument.
And you in your ignorance or malice perpetuate such lies by repeating what your lying lefty friends tell you. So which is it? Are you just ignorant, or are you malicious?
Post by: Old Crow on January 31, 2019, 03:08:59 PM
Post by: Anthony on January 31, 2019, 03:31:30 PM
We all greatly appreciate your advice to republicans, and when we have our Pilot Spin Conservative Action Committee Convention will take it under advisement.
That requires a Moderator Meeting according to the current by laws.
Post by: Lucifer on January 31, 2019, 03:36:11 PM
Post by: nddons on January 31, 2019, 03:51:37 PM
That requires a Moderator Meeting according to the current by laws.I’ll bring some Wisconsin beer, you bring some Yuengling, and Lucifer can bring...well he can just leave that Lone Star crap in Hell.
Post by: Lucifer on January 31, 2019, 04:06:35 PM
I’ll bring some Wisconsin beer, you bring some Yuengling, and Lucifer can bring...well he can just leave that Lone Star crap in Hell.
For you. (https://www.curtisliquors.com/labels/P100026.JPG)
Yes, we serve that here in Hell, well, because it's Hell.
Post by: Anthony on January 31, 2019, 04:15:48 PM
I’ll bring some Wisconsin beer, you bring some Yuengling, and Lucifer can bring...well he can just leave that Lone Star crap in Hell.
We have better stuff than Yuengling here. Yards, Victoria, Iron Hill, Dogfish Head...…
Of course it is open to all Pilot Spin conservative members, and honorary conserative members (liberals, moderates, commies, academics). You know, because we're "Inclusive". lol!
Post by: bflynn on January 31, 2019, 06:54:08 PM
What an unimpeachable source!
When the topic is how non-Republicans see Republicans, they are an unimpeachable source.
I have no desire to paint you with the same brush as L. That would be insulting to you.
I have no concern about being popular. If the lot of you what to sit around and stroke each other in an increasingly right wing echo chamber, then have at it. From time to time I will inject my thoughts. If those happen to jar your comfortable red-tinged world, then I make no apologies for that.
Post by: bflynn on January 31, 2019, 06:59:37 PM
Your really are insufferably petulant today.
You think I am being childishly sulky? Is that because I dare to challenge the status quo?
Nothing childish about this. My intention is to make you aware that Republicans are screwing up. You all admit that it is bad for to wish for someone to die, you just refuse to admit that you are wishing for it. Be honest, at least with yourself.
Post by: Anthony on January 31, 2019, 07:07:01 PM
You think I am being childishly sulky? Is that because I dare to challenge the status quo?
Nothing childish about this. My intention is to make you aware that Republicans are screwing up. You all admit that it is bad for to wish for someone to die, you just refuse to admit that you are wishing for it. Be honest, at least with yourself.
Many Presidents employ people in their Administrations that think opposite from them and their party. Often from the opposing party. It is good to hear the other side. However, we do get it from CNN, NBC, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, PBS, NYT, Washpo, and even AP, and Reuters. So, it isn't like we don't hear it, but I don't have a problem hearing it again. I think the Right is tired of the only ones to be the clean fighters, and maybe we are seeing a shift in that.
Post by: Lucifer on January 31, 2019, 07:26:40 PM
You think I am being childishly sulky? Is that because I dare to challenge the status quo?
Nothing childish about this. My intention is to make you aware that Republicans are screwing up. You all admit that it is bad for to wish for someone to die, you just refuse to admit that you are wishing for it. Be honest, at least with yourself.
More projection.
Pathetic. But, when considering the source, not surprising.
Post by: bflynn on January 31, 2019, 10:38:51 PM
More projection.
Pathetic. But, when considering the source, not surprising.
You still havent registered up on whether you started this thread out of ignorance or malice. Consider that as a source.
The main thing I’ve said is don’t give your enemies ammunition. Apparently nobody on the politics board cares about politics.
Post by: Number7 on February 01, 2019, 05:21:53 AM
You still havent registered up on whether you started this thread out of ignorance or malice. Consider that as a source.
The main thing I’ve said is don’t give your enemies ammunition. Apparently nobody on the politics board cares about politics.
You are so full of shit when you lecture everybody from your position of lofty, soaring, virtue and unimaginable intelligence.
It’s a wonder your u can shower with yourself without soiling the bathtub with your essence.
Post by: Lucifer on February 01, 2019, 06:08:25 AM
You still havent registered up on whether you started this thread out of ignorance or malice.
Consider that as a source.
The main thing I’ve said is don’t give your enemies ammunition. Apparently nobody on the politics board cares about politics.
Are you really as petulant and ignorant as you come across on the forum? The main thing that comes across from your inane diatribes is that you are here to simply troll.
Post by: Rush on February 01, 2019, 06:14:39 AM
I can't pretend to be a paragon of virtue, I'm only human.
Post by: Little Joe on February 01, 2019, 06:18:44 AM
But she won't retire till she dies, or is completely incapacitated (or a Dem gets elected President). So my hoping that she leaves the court may well be seen as a blood lust by those choosing to see it that way. But the concept of lifetime appointments, and the tenacity of RBG leave me little alternative.
But that wasn't the point of the thread. The point was the fact that the MSM is not reporting her condition 7x24 in breathless anticipation like they would if she were a conservative.
Post by: Lucifer on February 01, 2019, 06:21:07 AM
I'll say it again. I am not cheering for Ginsburg to die. I wish she would retire and get the medical attention she needs.
But she won't retire till she dies, or is completely incapacitated (or a Dem gets elected President). So my hoping that she leaves the court may well be seen as a blood lust by those choosing to see it that way. But the concept of lifetime appointments, and the tenacity of RBG leave me little alternative.
But that wasn't the point of the thread. The point was the fact that the MSM is not reporting her condition 7x24 in breathless anticipation like they would if she were a conservative.
Most everyone reading here realized that, except for one that decided to troll the thread with his virtue signaling and projection.
Post by: Rush on February 01, 2019, 06:33:13 AM
I'll say it again. I am not cheering for Ginsburg to die. I wish she would retire and get the medical attention she needs.
But she won't retire till she dies, or is completely incapacitated (or a Dem gets elected President). So my hoping that she leaves the court may well be seen as a blood lust by those choosing to see it that way. But the concept of lifetime appointments, and the tenacity of RBG leave me little alternative.
But that wasn't the point of the thread. The point was the fact that the MSM is not reporting her condition 7x24 in breathless anticipation like they would if she were a conservative.
I understand Flynn's point about not giving the left ammunition and he is right that the left would blow up the smallest thing the right does while ignoring much worse from their own side. But this is a private forum, it's not like we're discussing this on Facebook. And you're right, the first few posts were on the subject of the media not covering her much at the moment.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 01, 2019, 07:05:51 AM
Honey, all conservatives have to do is have a heartbeat and be taking in oxygen to give the left ammunition. That, or smile politely while wearing a patriotic red hat.
And if RBG were a conservative, she’d have had an unfortunate accident in her sleep while alone in a cabin on a fishing trip by now.
Post by: Anthony on February 01, 2019, 07:10:24 AM
I'll say it again. I am not cheering for Ginsburg to die. I wish she would retire and get the medical attention she needs.
But she won't retire till she dies, or is completely incapacitated (or a Dem gets elected President). So my hoping that she leaves the court may well be seen as a blood lust by those choosing to see it that way. But the concept of lifetime appointments, and the tenacity of RBG leave me little alternative.
But that wasn't the point of the thread. The point was the fact that the MSM is not reporting her condition 7x24 in breathless anticipation like they would if she were a conservative.
^^^^^This. Said more articulately than I could. I don't want her to die, I just don't want her on the court anymore. If she retires, and gets well and has a happy rest of her life, that would be great.
Post by: Rush on February 01, 2019, 08:49:50 AM
^^^^^This. Said more articulately than I could. I don't want her to die, I just don't want her on the court anymore. If she retires, and gets well and has a happy rest of her life, that would be great.
That's how I feel. SHE refuses to retire herself, so the only way she will get off the court is to die, therefore that is the only option to hope for. I just want her to get her wrinkly old demented worn out butt off the damn bench. There's nothing wrong with wanting that. If she won't do it except to die, then that's all that's left to wish for. That is on HER; it doesn't make me a bad guy because she forced me into wishing it.
Post by: asechrest on February 01, 2019, 09:24:43 AM
I’ll bring some Wisconsin beer, you bring some Yuengling, and Lucifer can bring...well he can just leave that Lone Star crap in Hell.
Sorry, I don't like beer that's been frozen and then un-thawed, so I'll skip the Wisconsin beer.
Post by: Little Joe on February 01, 2019, 09:51:31 AM
Sorry, I don't like beer that's been frozen and then un-thawed, so I'll skip the Wisconsin beer.Frozen and un-thawed would still be frozen, right? Never had that.
But I like most American style beers with a few ice crystals in it. The cold helps kill the taste and it is kind of refreshing on a hot day. I prefer a good dark beer that is slightly warmer (not warm) to the point where you can actually taste the richness.
Post by: Lucifer on February 01, 2019, 11:00:09 AM
Frozen and un-thawed would still be frozen, right? Never had that.
But I like most American style beers with a few ice crystals in it. The cold helps kill the taste and it is kind of refreshing on a hot day. I prefer a good dark beer that is slightly warmer (not warm) to the point where you can actually taste the richness.
Wasn't some manufacture doing "cold filtered" beer, they essentially freeze it, scoop out the ice crystals to rid it of unwanted water. Or something like that.
Post by: asechrest on February 01, 2019, 11:01:49 AM
Frozen and un-thawed would still be frozen, right? Never had that.
Well ya' got me there! Hah.
Post by: Lucifer on February 03, 2019, 08:09:45 AM
http://allnewspipeline.com/Where_Is_Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg.php
Post by: bflynn on February 03, 2019, 08:47:33 AM
Caution! The following story may have a triggering effect on some. Please don't click if easily triggered.
http://allnewspipeline.com/Where_Is_Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg.php
Ha ha ha ha...keep wishing dufus. Allnewspipeline.com? That's your source that she's dead? The same website that is currently reporting that the government has a list of people to be hunted down and either killed or forced into reeducation camps in some future national emergency? That allnewspipeline.com?
Do you even know that you've been played on this whole topic? Google "QAnon RBG" and learn. That's the source of all the rumors and you should research your source...QAnon has a long history stupid conspiracy rumors that turn out to be slightly less credible than the faked moon landing . But like a useful idiot, you took the ball and ran with it.
Once again - the doctors said they expect her to return to work mid-late Feb. Given her age, it could even be a little later because old people heal at an unpredictable rate. There is a chance that she won't get better, but right now that's the "hey, old people aren't as hardy" chance. When the elderly have surgery, they sometime don't pull out of it.
BTW, advance notice - she won't be at the SOTU because it isn't time for her to go back to work.
What a maroon.
Post by: Lucifer on February 03, 2019, 09:04:14 AM
Ha ha ha ha...keep wishing dufus. Allnewspipeline.com? That's your source that she's dead? The same website that is currently reporting that the government has a list of people to be hunted down and either killed or forced into reeducation camps in some future national emergency? That allnewspipeline.com?
Do you even know that you've been played on this whole topic? Google "QAnon RBG" and learn. That's the source of all the rumors and you should research your source...QAnon has a long history stupid conspiracy rumors that turn out to be slightly less credible than the faked moon landing . But like a useful idiot, you took the ball and ran with it.
Once again - the doctors said they expect her to return to work mid-late Feb. Given her age, it could even be a little later because old people heal at an unpredictable rate. There is a chance that she won't get better, but right now that's the "hey, old people aren't as hardy" chance. When the elderly have surgery, they sometime don't pull out of it.
BTW, advance notice - she won't be at the SOTU because it isn't time for her to go back to work.
What a maroon.
Apparently reading comprehension is not one of your strong points.
I placed that article as an example of what's out there. Nowhere did I vouch for the validity of its contents. Through projection you attempted that.
Your hatred tends to cloud any reasonable thought processes which make it difficult for you to function in an open forum. Regrettable.
And just the other day you were accusing me of "following you around" the forum and answering all your post, yet if you look that's precisely what you have been doing (more projection on your part)
Now, the other day you sent me a PM threatening me. You have taken this to another level by lodging threats to another forum member. We have discussions and debates here, sometimes lively and pointed. But the one area the posters stay away from is making actual threats to others. That's unacceptable and really shows your true character.
You should really look into some anger management therapy.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 03, 2019, 09:42:27 AM
Post by: bflynn on February 03, 2019, 09:48:08 AM
I placed that article as an example of what's out there. Nowhere did I vouch for the validity of its contents. Through projection you attempted that.
You placed it out there as an example of news. But it isn't news, it's stuff that is totally fake...guess we need to start calling you Lying Lucy. You still haven't owned up to the fact that you're carrying water for an internet troll. This whole thread is someone's joke that you fell for. There's no evidence that RBG is not well, there's only someone laughing up their sleeve at you and you egotistically refusing to understand that you got played. Ignorance and arrogance are a dangerous combination and you have both in spades.
Yes, you've quit insulting me with every post, probably because it wasn't politically savy for you to keep doing it. I have no illusions about you, you're not just a good guy that stirs the pot. Regardless, I'm going to help stir the pot, I'm just not going to be nice to you while I do it. And you can count on me to point out every time that
Post by: Lucifer on February 03, 2019, 10:12:19 AM
You placed it out there as an example of news. But it isn't news, it's stuff that is totally fake...guess we need to start calling you Lying Lucy. You still haven't owned up to the fact that you're carrying water for an internet troll. This whole thread is someone's joke that you fell for. There's no evidence that RBG is not well, there's only someone laughing up their sleeve at you and you egotistically refusing to understand that you got played. Ignorance and arrogance are a dangerous combination and you have both in spades.
Yes, you've quit insulting me with every post, probably because it wasn't politically savy for you to keep doing it. I have no illusions about you, you're not just a good guy that stirs the pot. Regardless, I'm going to help stir the pot, I'm just not going to be nice to you while I do it. And you can count on me to point out every time that
It’s unfortunate that my postings make you feel inferior and incite you to hostility.
Post by: bflynn on February 03, 2019, 10:31:18 AM
It’s unfortunate that my postings make you feel inferior and incite you to hostility.
It's unfortunate that you're too damn stubborn to admit when you've made a mistake. Arrogance and lying is what incites me to hostility. If you think your posts have triggered me in that respect, then it's evidence of how messed up you are. I am intolerant of idiocy, yourself included.
Plus, if you think that I link any of my self worth to your posts, it's just more evidence of your egotism.
Post by: bflynn on February 03, 2019, 10:33:34 AM
So bflynn, whereisruth? Why is this not getting covered? Do you notice that Fox NEWS doe snot tweet out a graphic every day with a calendar, while CNN did after Melania had her surgery?
I dunno - because there's nothing that happened that shouldn't have and nothing that should have happened that didn't. We're in a waiting state, it's not time. If we haven't heard something in 3 weeks, then I'll be curious.
This is like the doctor telling you "you'll have that cast for 2 months" and at 1.5 months you're asking why the cast isn't already off.
Post by: Lucifer on February 03, 2019, 10:40:48 AM
It's unfortunate that you're too damn stubborn to admit when you've made a mistake. Arrogance and lying is what incites me to hostility. If you think your posts have triggered me in that respect, then it's evidence of how messed up you are. I am intolerant of idiocy, yourself included.
Plus, if you think that I link any of my self worth to your posts, it's just more evidence of your egotism.
You have anger issues. That’s apparent.
Anyone who gets on a political forum and is triggered into anger as easily as you are seriously needs to seek professional help.
You have recently resorted to threats as well. Anger and making threatening pm’s is a sign of someone who is unhinged.
Post by: Little Joe on February 03, 2019, 10:55:51 AM
Post by: Lucifer on February 03, 2019, 10:59:02 AM
Is anyone else getting just a little tired of this?
I am for sure.
Are you suggesting moderation?
Post by: Little Joe on February 03, 2019, 11:00:58 AM
I am for sure.Sort of. But only on the part of you and Flynn. If it gets too annoying, I will just ignore the forum for a while.
Are you suggesting moderation?
Post by: Lucifer on February 03, 2019, 11:08:00 AM
Sort of. But only on the part of you and Flynn. If it gets too annoying, I will just ignore the forum for a while.
Your choice.
When you have a unmoderated forum such as this, you accept the good with the bad.
For the most part we have good discussions, sometimes spirited, sometimes heated. But for the most part everyone remains civil. BFlynn became unhinged and resorted to making threats via PM. He has also accused me of sniping him, yet he is actually doing it to me. This was in his threat as well.
I’m not sure what has caused him to go unhinged, don’t really care. But once the forum succumbs to someone like Flynn then its downhill from there. It’s not surprising he’s just using a chapter out of the dem playbook to stifle exchange of ideas.
Post by: Little Joe on February 03, 2019, 11:20:15 AM
Your choice.I know that.
When you have a unmoderated forum such as this, you accept the good with the bad.No. As you said, we have a choice as to whether to accept it or not.
For the most part we have good discussions, sometimes spirited, sometimes heated. But for the most part everyone remains civil.So if one person goes of the rails, then it makes it ok for others (even moderators) to go off the rails.
BFlynn became unhinged and resorted to making threats via PM. He has also accused me of sniping him, yet he is actually doing it to me. This was in his threat as well.That is disturbing. But without more information and context, I can't make a decision on it.
I’m not sure what has caused him to go unhinged, don’t really care. But once the forum succumbs to someone like Flynn then its downhill from there.[/quote
Only if we respond in kind.It’s not surprising he’s just using a chapter out of the dem playbook to stifle exchange of ideas.Getting defensive and calling people names seems to rather common around here. I'll admit that I am not immune, but I try to drop it before it gets too bad.
Even though I agree with your point of view the majority of the time, you weaken your credibility when you continue to engage him like this. But if your credibility is of no concern to you, then you are free to continue. This can become the Lucifer/Bflynn pissing match forum and all who care to participate or watch are welcome.
Post by: bflynn on February 03, 2019, 11:38:40 AM
BFlynn became unhinged and resorted to making threats via PM.
More from Lying Lucy, but then that's what you'd expect from someone who models the devil, right? I didn't make a threat, I invited you to come tangle with me, but wah, wah, poor little you. It says a lot that you have to change facts in order to bolster your story. I have no intention of wasting my time with threats, there's too many things going on in my life. I'll be traveling again for work this week, so I'll naturally be away from here.
Tired of it? Oh, I'm not at all tired, I've been doing this for over 25 years. But I am willing for everyone to go back to their corners. However, I'll continue to call out when Lucy is wrong and because of who he is, he'll probably snipe back at me. That's how this started, he can't let a comment pass him by, his ego won't let him. If his intention is to make me tired of coming here, like he did others, then I can assure everyone that it will fail.
Have I reacted the best? Probably not. I reverted back to the submarine environment, maybe because I've recently gotten re-engaged with a submarine veterans group. That culture has zero tolerance for BS, so when something is wrong, it gets called out in explicit detail with vulgarity as punctuation. It is intentional and for effect, but if it's bothersome, I'll try to refrain from doing that again.
Meanwhile, it's not time for RBG to be back to work. This thread is the result of a joke from an internet troll. Well done to them, they've hooked a lot of gullible people.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on February 03, 2019, 12:10:02 PM
I dunno - because there's nothing that happened that shouldn't have and nothing that should have happened that didn't. We're in a waiting state, it's not time. If we haven't heard something in 3 weeks, then I'll be curious.
This is like the doctor telling you "you'll have that cast for 2 months" and at 1.5 months you're asking why the cast isn't already off.
I notice you decided to ignore the part about Melania and how much attention CNN paid to her absence from the public eye while she recuperated from her surgery, and she is only the First Lady.
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 03, 2019, 12:23:36 PM
Is anyone else getting just a little tired of this?
No. If it did, I’d go take a nap or stop reading this thread.
Post by: Old Crow on February 03, 2019, 12:27:49 PM
Post by: bflynn on February 03, 2019, 12:45:42 PM
I notice you decided to ignore the part about Melania and how much attention CNN paid to her absence from the public eye while she recuperated from her surgery, and she is only the First Lady.
I never considered the point that you were trying to make with it. But yes CNN paid a lot of attention to Melania. They looked like idiots doing it.
Post by: Little Joe on February 03, 2019, 01:21:00 PM
This is like the doctor telling you "you'll have that cast for 2 months" and at 1.5 months you're asking why the cast isn't already off.No it's not. It's more like someone you know has broken their arm and had a cast put on it. You know the cast isn't supposed to come off for about 6 weeks, but you ask him how is doing periodically anyway.
RBG is a very public figure. It is only natural that people want to know how she is progressing. With a lack of information, rumors fly. You did it on your boat. It was called scuttlebut.
Flynn, you are better than this.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 03, 2019, 02:13:45 PM
I’m kind of going with, if you have nothing to hide you make all clear as to what is going on. She is indeed an important public figure and more importantly a public servant. Just imagine if Kavanaugh disappeared for 54 days under media silence.
Post by: Rush on February 03, 2019, 02:18:57 PM
My husband googled RBG’s whereabouts and all he got was a bunch of links about how the right is obsessed with her viability.
I’m kind of going with, if you have nothing to hide you make all clear as to what is going on. She is indeed an important public figure and more importantly a public servant. Just imagine if Kavanaugh disappeared for 54 days under media silence.
Internet searches are becoming more frustrating have you noticed? The stuff that comes back lately seems more superficial or biased or too full of ads than I recall in the past. Is it just me? And I'm not just using google I use duck duck go and Ixquick and bing too.
Post by: bflynn on February 03, 2019, 05:59:20 PM
Post by: Old Crow on February 03, 2019, 05:59:35 PM
Internet searches are becoming more frustrating have you noticed? The stuff that comes back lately seems more superficial or biased or too full of ads than I recall in the past. Is it just me? And I'm not just using google I use duck duck go and Ixquick and bing too.No, not just you. I've noticed more ads on news sites along with the search web sites. Was also wondering if it was just me.
Post by: Rush on February 04, 2019, 06:12:14 AM
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/12/justice_ginsburgs_failing_health.html
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 04, 2019, 06:50:41 AM
Post by: Lucifer on February 04, 2019, 06:52:07 AM
Good assessment. I like the third comment. And I’d forgotten about the 60,000 doctors saying POTUS is unfit! Good old days.
You know what they call the guy that graduates at the bottom of his class in medical school, right?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 04, 2019, 07:04:58 AM
Internet searches are becoming more frustrating have you noticed? The stuff that comes back lately seems more superficial or biased or too full of ads than I recall in the past. Is it just me? And I'm not just using google I use duck duck go and Ixquick and bing too.Yes. I use DuckDuckGo exclusively and have for several years. They seem to be “fair,” as as far I as I can tell. How can we know for sure? We’re pawns, really. Occasionally I use Google just to see what they’re up to and it’s really discouraging, and has been for years. They even admit to skewing search results negatively on Romney in 2012 and Trump in 2016. I used Google to see what they said about HRC’s health in 2016 and all that came up was her health care plans.
For an American to find information on all sides of an event, person, or issue, they must possess a certain degree of desire to know the truth, intellectual agility, and access to technology. Scary.
Post by: Anthony on February 04, 2019, 08:13:29 AM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 04, 2019, 08:24:08 AM
Post by: Rush on February 04, 2019, 08:27:38 AM
I have no certainty whatsoever that POTUS will get another appointment. We now have the technology to keep people alive for a very long time. The problem is whether or not she is fulfilling her role as public servant. If not, a ruckus can rightfully be raised. Of course, if the right does so, they will be perceived as vultures.
You bring up a good point. In 1776 people tended to be alive until they were dead. But today we can keep a body breathing and maybe even minimally intellectually functional practically indefinitely. Is there a point where we should remove a Justice if they are too absent or sick to do their job?
Post by: Lucifer on February 04, 2019, 08:34:47 AM
You bring up a good point. In 1776 people tended to be alive until they were dead. But today we can keep a body breathing and maybe even minimally intellectually functional practically indefinitely. Is there a point where we should remove a Justice if they are too absent or sick to do their job?
The constitution is silent on this. IMO the founding fathers placed this into the "this should be obvious" box, in other words, when someone becomes incapacitated to perform their duties it's time to step down. That's just common sense.
Also, I don't believe for a minute the founding fathers ever envisioned people becoming "place holders" for positions.
Post by: bflynn on February 04, 2019, 09:46:49 AM
You bring up a good point. In 1776 people tended to be alive until they were dead. But today we can keep a body breathing and maybe even minimally intellectually functional practically indefinitely. Is there a point where we should remove a Justice if they are too absent or sick to do their job?
Yes. When Congress does it or when God does it.
If you want to do it otherwise, pass an Amendment. But I tend to think it's pretty good as is.
Post by: bflynn on February 04, 2019, 09:52:23 AM
The constitution is silent on this.
The Constitution is not silent on this. The phrase used is "shall hold their offices during good behavior" and is understood by all involved to mean for life. Changing this is either an amendment explicitly changing it or a legal argument to convince the Supreme Court justices that when they are viewed as "unviable" then they'll be kicked out. I don't see a single justice agreeing to that.
If you want to make an argument to change the definition, be very, very sure that you like what it says when the other guys are in power.
Post by: bflynn on February 04, 2019, 09:58:49 AM
The fact that the Media isn't reporting on RBG speaks volumes. They KNOW her condition is grave, but are hiding that fact because they can't accept Trump getting yet another appointment. He will. Get over it Libs!
So, last week when I said "quit salivating", this is kinda what I meant. Maybe Trump will get to make another appointment. But don't be eager for it because odds are Ginsburg is fine for now. The mere fact that there's only been one unverified sighting of her in public isn't that surprising when she was supposed to be recuperating at home.
Why isn't the media talking about her lack of public life? Because it isn't news. The only people focused on this are right wingers who are desperately hoping for her to get off the Court.
Post by: Lucifer on February 04, 2019, 10:07:15 AM
The Constitution is not silent on this. The phrase used is "shall hold their offices during good behavior" and is understood by all involved to mean for life. Changing this is either an amendment explicitly changing it or a legal argument to convince the Supreme Court justices that when they are viewed as "unviable" then they'll be kicked out. I don't see a single justice agreeing to that.
If you want to make an argument to change the definition, be very, very sure that you like what it says when the other guys are in power.
Please cite your reference, and how it "is understood by all involved to mean for life".
Post by: Little Joe on February 04, 2019, 10:33:47 AM
Please cite your reference, and how it "is understood by all involved to mean for life".I was going to ask the same thing. I have never heard that "during good behavior" meant "for life". That sounds like one of those evolving liberal definitions.
Post by: Lucifer on February 04, 2019, 10:41:41 AM
I was going to ask the same thing. I have never heard that "during good behavior" meant "for life". That sounds like one of those evolving liberal definitions.
Here's a good read on the subject
https://scholarship.law.nd.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1164&context=law_faculty_scholarship
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The Framers were willing to accept the inconvenience of disability, and
there is no convincing evidence that their choice was incorrect.
Post by: Jim Logajan on February 04, 2019, 10:46:17 AM
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-m-appel/anticipating-the-incapaci_b_266179.html (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-m-appel/anticipating-the-incapaci_b_266179.html)
Post by: Little Joe on February 04, 2019, 11:55:24 AM
Seems there have been incapacitated justices on the court in the past (forgive the link to huffpost- at least in the linked article it gives some useful historical data):I didn't really get much out of that. We have had a few Justices that were forced out, but that would be difficult today unless it was a liberal President forcing out a conservative Justice. Otherwise the MSM would induce cardiac arrest in half the population.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-m-appel/anticipating-the-incapaci_b_266179.html (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/jacob-m-appel/anticipating-the-incapaci_b_266179.html)
What I did get out of it, that I agree with is this:
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What is clear is that, soon enough, the technological prowess of heroic medicine will come face to face with the politicization of the judiciary, likely over the incapacitated body of a critically-ill justice. We need to set up neutral rules well in advance of such a crisis.
But I still don't think Justices should be allowed to serve until death or they decide to retire if they become incompetent.
Post by: bflynn on February 04, 2019, 12:49:50 PM
Please cite your reference, and how it "is understood by all involved to mean for life".
Why Does a Supreme Court Justice Serve for Life? (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+does+a+supreme+court+justice+serve+for+life)
If that one doesn't do it for you, here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/faq_general.aspx (https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/faq_general.aspx). Question #4
Post by: bflynn on February 04, 2019, 12:50:51 PM
I was going to ask the same thing. I have never heard that "during good behavior" meant "for life". That sounds like one of those evolving liberal definitions.
Only if you consider the entire legal profession to be "Liberal".
Post by: Anthony on February 04, 2019, 12:54:48 PM
Only if you consider the entire legal profession to be "Liberal".
Talk to any law professors, and law students recently? The vast majority are big government, more law, more regulation types, and you know why? MONEY and more business for themselves. Most lawyers are "Liberal". Just check the political stance of the American Bar Association.
Post by: bflynn on February 04, 2019, 12:59:13 PM
Talk to any law professors, and law students recently? The vast majority are big government, more law, more regulation types, and you know why? MONEY and more business for themselves. Most lawyers are "Liberal". Just check the political stance of the American Bar Association.
No, I don't make a habit of talking to law professors or students. But you know what? Most law professors and (young) students are liberal. It's normal. Once they get out into the world and see that first tax deduction, it will hit them what "free" means.
Want another answer? Because the supreme court in the land rules that's the way the law works. There's no higher authority except that The People pass an Amendment to correct them.
Post by: Anthony on February 04, 2019, 01:20:03 PM
No, I don't make a habit of talking to law professors or students. But you know what? Most law professors and (young) students are liberal. It's normal. Once they get out into the world and see that first tax deduction, it will hit them what "free" means.
Want another answer? Because the supreme court in the land rules that's the way the law works. There's no higher authority except that The People pass an Amendment to correct them.
You conveniently forgot to address the American Bar Association, and the Trial Lawyers.
Post by: bflynn on February 04, 2019, 01:32:50 PM
You conveniently forgot to address the American Bar Association, and the Trial Lawyers.
You're right. I don't consider them to be relevant so I mentally glossed over them.
The ABA has 300,000 members out of about 1.2 million lawyers in the US and despite the name they don't have authority over lawyers. Authority is held by each state's bar. By no small coincidence, that's roughly the same proportion of Democrats to citizens. Similarly, the national trial lawyers association is a voluntary "honor" society. They're about promotion of individual members.
I also don't see any evidence of them having a Liberal stance, although I'll grant that if you're not aware of yourself and you go far right, then 90% of others look Liberal. There are people here who would swear that I'm a commie pinko marxist, but I assure you that's at best 49% true.
Are you taking (lack of) research lessons from Lucy? Come on, I found this information in about 30 seconds. Why do I have to refute basic information? It's like you're not even trying, you're just going with what you think you know.
Post by: Anthony on February 04, 2019, 01:50:41 PM
You're right. I don't consider them to be relevant so I mentally glossed over them.
The ABA has 300,000 members out of about 1.2 million lawyers in the US and despite the name they don't have authority over lawyers. Authority is held by each state's bar. By no small coincidence, that's roughly the same proportion of Democrats to citizens. Similarly, the national trial lawyers association is a voluntary "honor" society. They're about promotion of individual members.
I also don't see any evidence of them having a Liberal stance, although I'll grant that if you're not aware of yourself and you go far right, then 90% of others look Liberal. There are people here who would swear that I'm a commie pinko marxist, but I assure you that's at best 49% true.
Are you taking (lack of) research lessons from Lucy? Come on, I found this information in about 30 seconds. Why do I have to refute basic information? It's like you're not even trying, you're just going with what you think you know.
That's a nice imitation of Charlie Brown's teacher's voice in all those "Peanuts" tv holiday shows we grew up with.
Post by: bflynn on February 04, 2019, 02:18:41 PM
That's a nice imitation of Charlie Brown's teacher's voice in all those "Peanuts" tv holiday shows we grew up with.
If you are checking out because the topic is becoming too hard, just stop posting like Lucy did.
If you aren’t understanding what I wrote, then just ask and I will rephrase.
Post by: Lucifer on February 04, 2019, 02:21:49 PM
If you are checking out because the topic is becoming too hard, just stop posting like Lucy did.
If you aren’t understanding what I wrote, then just ask and I will rephrase.
You do not control threads here. No one needs your permission to post. I'm aware you suffer an inferiority complex and thus you come here to play the "internet tough guy".
How about just participating in the discussion without your adolescent tantrums?
Post by: bflynn on February 04, 2019, 02:31:19 PM
Sniping at someone because they called you out for having bad information is just bad form. When I can find facts in 30 seconds that refute you, then you haven’t taken the first step toward verifying yourself, you’re posting an opinion in place of facts...fake news. I expect the same to work in reverse, when I post something that is factually incorrect, then I should be informed of where the right information is.
Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, just as I will argue for mine. But we must all share the same facts.
Post by: Lucifer on February 04, 2019, 02:50:26 PM
Reread what I wrote for context. Control threads? Is that a subtle reminder that you are an admin and I’m not? I’m not controlling threads, I’m suggesting that when you give up on a topic, then just stop posting.
Nobody really cares about your suggestions. Try acting like an adult for a change. It's already been noted by several here your continuing childish behavior.
Of course you are entitled to your own opinion, just as I will argue for mine. But we must all share the same facts.
Then remember folks here have different opinions.
Post by: bflynn on February 04, 2019, 02:58:50 PM
Nobody really cares about your suggestions. Try acting like an adult for a change. It's already been noted by several here your continuing childish behavior.
Nobody has convinced me that I'm wrong and I'm fairly convinced that I've shown factual problems with the fake stuff others...including you...are posting.
By "act like an adult", do you mean agree with you? Because I assure you, that won't have a chance of happening until you're right. When you are wrong, I will call you and anyone else out on it.
Of course you are entitled to your own opinion...
Then remember folks here have different opinions.
You know, if you didn't even read the previous post before responding, then your power to berate me loses its punch. (BTW, this is an example of me calling you out again because you're wrong.)
Post by: Lucifer on February 04, 2019, 03:08:13 PM
Nobody has convinced me that I'm wrong and I'm fairly convinced that I've shown factual problems with the fake stuff others...including you...are posting.
By "act like an adult", do you mean agree with you? Because I assure you, that won't have a chance of happening until you're right. When you are wrong, I will call you and anyone else out on it.
You know, if you didn't even read the previous post before responding, then your power to berate me loses its punch. (BTW, this is an example of me calling you out again because you're wrong.)
You're a petulant child throwing a tantrum, nothing more. And you still hide behind your faux intellect, which impresses no one.
But I suspect the asshat displays will continue.
Post by: Anthony on February 04, 2019, 03:12:21 PM
If you are checking out because the topic is becoming too hard, just stop posting like Lucy did.
If you aren’t understanding what I wrote, then just ask and I will rephrase.
Yes it is too hard when you feel like your banging your head against a brick wall.
Post by: bflynn on February 04, 2019, 04:04:17 PM
Yes it is too hard when you feel like your banging your head against a brick wall.
What’s the problem?
If you have a better idea, convince me. If you don’t have a better idea, then why are you hanging onto it.
Post by: bflynn on February 04, 2019, 04:06:02 PM
You're a petulant child throwing a tantrum, nothing more. And you still hide behind your faux intellect, which impresses no one.
But I suspect the asshat displays will continue.
I offered that we start being civil and assumed that you accepted. Name calling will get escalated. Fair warning.
By the way, petulant is not the proper adjective and child is not the correct noun.
Post by: Number7 on February 04, 2019, 09:25:01 PM
Why don't you on over to POA and try your tough guy, internet forum champion stuff on aunt Peggy and henning. See how long they put up with your junior high ego, and elementary school self control.
Post by: bflynn on February 05, 2019, 06:20:49 AM
Why don't you on over to POA and try your tough guy, internet forum champion stuff on aunt Peggy and henning.
Do you even understand what you're typing? Henning has been gone from POA for like 2 years now.
Tough guy? Yeah, sure, I'm a tough guy because I look up facts and then base my arguments on them rather than parroting emotionally based BS. WTH are you trying to say? I recognize the words as English, but their coherence as a sentence don't have any bearing with reality, so I'm at a loss to get what you want to communicate.
Post by: bflynn on February 05, 2019, 06:21:10 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/ruth-bader-ginsburg-makes-first-public-appearance-since-cancer-surgery/2019/02/04/251d59f4-28cf-11e9-b2fc-721718903bfc_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3c069d6362c6
https://www.apnews.com/b94fea4b4a2a408fabcf756da790ff27
Post by: Little Joe on February 05, 2019, 06:32:58 AM
I didn't necessarily hope to hear she was dead. I mainly wanted to hear the something. Anything. After all, she is a a member of one of the most powerful wings of our government and we deserve to not be kept in the dark.
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2019, 06:55:20 AM
What’s the problem?
If you have a better idea, convince me. If you don’t have a better idea, then why are you hanging onto it.
It is obvious there is a double standard in the Media. If this had been a "conservative" judge the death watch would be 24/7. Also the fact the VA Governor is a Democrat has that story now buried where if he were a Republican it would be front page news still. The fact you don't see that is just ridiculous. So, if you can not acknowledge that, what is the point of further discussion?
Post by: Lucifer on February 05, 2019, 08:40:47 AM
Post by: bflynn on February 05, 2019, 09:38:10 AM
This only proves the point of the thread. Complete silence on the part of the MSM, until they have something good to report. That is completely opposite their behavior when it comes to conservatives. They ignore any good (conservative) news and breathlessly report any bad news or even negative speculation 24x7.
So...why do you think Fox didn’t talk about it?
Maybe because there actually was periodic news about RBG, some people just ignored it. There was a statement by her doctor in early Jan and an update about two weeks later. What was there for anyone to report? She was supposed to be at home resting and she was. Where is the news? The news now is “hey, she is out and about a little earlier than expected” and that was reported.
See, I still think a few people here believe that someone besides the right believed QAnon. The only reason anyone else paid attention to this topic was to laugh at the ridiculousness of it.
I absolutely acknowledge that there is a double standard in the media. But when nobody reported that nothing happened, I don’t think a double standard was the reason.
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2019, 09:50:12 AM
Post by: Lucifer on February 05, 2019, 03:06:53 PM
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2019, 03:12:40 PM
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/mystery-no-pictures-from-first-ginsburg-public-appearance-since-surgery/
So, essentially they brought in Norman Bate's mummified Mother, and sat her up in a chair.
Post by: nddons on February 05, 2019, 04:45:56 PM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 05, 2019, 04:52:49 PM
Post by: Number7 on February 05, 2019, 06:09:33 PM
Stan, I admonish you for tastelessness. Let’s get into a big old sniping forum kerfluffle about how much more tasteless you are than me. 😀 And how I totally misread your intent, and how my comprehension skills are poor.
You would need to babble on about how his name should be LUCY and unendingly tell us all how you are so much smarter than wee are.
Post by: Lucifer on February 05, 2019, 06:23:19 PM
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bcc9855548e55223452ef690e00849b4190fe5ceba2d5829ef7e2f3e75de10c7.jpg?w=800&h=258)
Post by: nddons on February 05, 2019, 06:24:13 PM
Stan, I admonish you for tastelessness. Let’s get into a big old sniping forum kerfluffle about how much more tasteless you are than me.Becky, you and your fellow republicans are so childish. Why I was just talking to my lefty friends about how racist and homophobic, and now AGEIST republicans are, and damn if they don’t think the exact same way. So clearly Republicans have about 2% of the public’s support, so when y’all wish for the painful death of RBG, you are casting all conservatives in a bad light, and you will pay for it at the ballot box.And how I totally misread your intent, and how my comprehension skills are poor.
Hey, this is fun!
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on February 05, 2019, 06:28:55 PM
Uh oh. It is fun. :-\
Post by: Anthony on February 05, 2019, 06:31:02 PM
Post by: bflynn on February 05, 2019, 10:09:42 PM
Jeez, you guys aren’t even good at teasing. Did you have a childhood?
Well, if you’re amused...
Post by: Lucifer on February 09, 2019, 05:16:25 PM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on May 05, 2019, 02:19:36 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-social-media-poll-finds-more-users-want-supreme-court-justices-like-kavanaugh-than-ginsburg
Post by: Anthony on May 05, 2019, 06:28:56 PM
Well, that backfired.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-social-media-poll-finds-more-users-want-supreme-court-justices-like-kavanaugh-than-ginsburg
The Democrats have the Media to insulate them and then when it comes out that many if not most people aren't buying their lies, identity politics, and Trump hate they curl up in a little ball, and suck their thumb.