Post by: Rush on March 31, 2019, 05:31:04 PM
Post by: nddons on March 31, 2019, 06:32:54 PM
I apologize if this is aviation related.I’m in the market for a Navion. I sent that last week to a bunch of my friends who own warbirds. They said it is 100% accurate.
Post by: Lucifer on March 31, 2019, 06:38:12 PM
I’m in the market for a Navion. I sent that last week to a bunch of my friends who own warbirds. They said it is 100% accurate.
Navions have the tailwheel in the wrong place. ;D
Post by: Anthony on March 31, 2019, 07:10:53 PM
Post by: nddons on March 31, 2019, 08:04:18 PM
Navions have the tailwheel in the wrong place. ;DI fly this Fairchild PT-26 Cornell (that’s me in the picture):
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190401/75c48d58d7d7449ce24eda9e7010aafc.jpg)
... and am taking T-6 transition training in August to get into our CAF wing’s SNJ in August or September.
The point of a Navion is to get a Warbird that
Is also a go-somewhere Aircraft. Not many go-somewhere Taildragger Warbirds. I wish there was!
Post by: nddons on March 31, 2019, 08:05:44 PM
Focke Wolf 149D.I’m interested in those too. Not many in the US I think. I haven’t seen on on the market in a while.
Post by: Anthony on March 31, 2019, 08:18:41 PM
I’m interested in those too. Not many in the US I think. I haven’t seen on on the market in a while.
We've talked about them before. The nice thing is they have a Lycoming engine. Other parts availability is anyone's guess. The Navion is a very cool airplane. Eclipsed by the Bonanza in many ways, but it is a TANK.
Good luck in your search!
Post by: Anthony on March 31, 2019, 08:20:52 PM
I fly this Fairchild PT-26 Cornell (that’s me in the picture):
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190401/75c48d58d7d7449ce24eda9e7010aafc.jpg)
... and am taking T-6 transition training in August to get into our CAF wing’s SNJ in August or September.
The point of a Navion is to get a Warbird that
Is also a go-somewhere Aircraft. Not many go-somewhere Taildragger Warbirds. I wish there was!
That is TOO COOL Stan. Wow!
Post by: nddons on March 31, 2019, 10:35:37 PM
That is TOO COOL Stan. Wow!Thanks Anthony. This is a privilege that
I would never have if not for the
Commemorative Air Force, and a mentor who got me involved in Warbirds. In fact, that’s the wing from his de Havilland Chipmunk. He also owns a beautiful Harvard (both aircraft for about 30 years), flew KC-135s for 21 years, and flew for United. Oh, and he played for Woody Hayes on their 1969 national championship team. Other than that he hasn’t done shit.
Post by: Username on April 01, 2019, 06:29:48 AM
I’m in the market for a Navion. I sent that last week to a bunch of my friends who own warbirds. They said it is 100% accurate.I'm in the market for a Navion as well, but I won't be in a position to buy for another couple of months. What are your requirements?
Post by: Username on April 01, 2019, 06:31:43 AM
I’m interested in those too. Not many in the US I think. I haven’t seen on on the market in a while.That's an outstanding sort-of Navion. Great plane, but they're all marked "Experimental" which sort of restricts their utility. Not sure why... they are really beautiful and I love the stick vs. yoke.
Post by: nddons on April 01, 2019, 06:58:26 AM
That's an outstanding sort-of Navion. Great plane, but they're all marked "Experimental" which sort of restricts their utility. Not sure why... they are really beautiful and I love the stick vs. yoke.I think it’s experimental because they are foreign made Warbirds. Even Harvards built by Canadian Car & Foundry under license from North American Aviation are experimental.
Post by: Username on April 01, 2019, 07:14:49 AM
I think it’s experimental because they are foreign made Warbirds. Even Harvards built by Canadian Car & Foundry under license from North American Aviation are experimental.Trade-a-plane has two 149Ds for sale now at fairly reasonable prices:
https://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Single+Engine+Piston&make=FOCKE+WULF&model=FW+P+149D&s-type=aircraft
Not sure about the geared engines and I'll have to explore just what experimental means... restricted to local airports and display or just a sticker. The feature would be cheaper avionics!
Post by: Dweyant on April 01, 2019, 07:50:08 AM
Long, stupid story..
The only restriction I have found in the almost three years I've been flying it is that I have to send a program letter to the FAA once a year listing the air shows I intend to attend (doesn't matter if I do or not).
I can fly the plane for any "training" purposes. and my test area is the continental united states. So, not really a limitation of any significance.
-Dan
Post by: Anthony on April 01, 2019, 08:17:37 AM
They sure are cool airplanes. You'd definitely get some attention at the airport Stan. :)
Post by: Number7 on April 01, 2019, 12:25:05 PM
I fly this Fairchild PT-26 Cornell (that’s me in the picture):
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190401/75c48d58d7d7449ce24eda9e7010aafc.jpg)
... and am taking T-6 transition training in August to get into our CAF wing’s SNJ in August or September.
The point of a Navion is to get a Warbird that
Is also a go-somewhere Aircraft. Not many go-somewhere Taildragger Warbirds. I wish there was!
That is not only outstanding, but amazing besides...
Post by: Anthony on April 01, 2019, 12:30:00 PM
That is not only outstanding, but amazing besides...
Yes it is. Sometimes I think we forget we are all a bunch of pilots, aircraft owners and aviation enthusiasts.
Post by: nddons on April 01, 2019, 01:50:02 PM
I'm in the market for a Navion as well, but I won't be in a position to buy for another couple of months. What are your requirements?I’d like an IO-470 or larger mid-time or lower engine, a decent panel I can live with for awhile, and an interior that I can live with. Ideally would be IFR, and painted in military livery. North American would be preferred but Ryan would be fine, especially if it served as an L-17.
Post by: nddons on April 01, 2019, 01:51:36 PM
Yes it is. Sometimes I think we forget we are all a bunch of pilots, aircraft owners and aviation enthusiasts.No doubt! We should have a fly-in. I vote for Oshkosh. ;)
Post by: Username on April 01, 2019, 03:25:34 PM
I’d like an IO-470 or larger mid-time or lower engine, a decent panel I can live with for awhile, and an interior that I can live with. Ideally would be IFR, and painted in military livery. North American would be preferred but Ryan would be fine, especially if it served as an L-17.Same specs as I'm looking for. Must be canopy but don't care what kind of paint job. I'm torn between a good panel and a basic panel that needs upgrading given the cool stuff that Garmin has out now. Good luck in your search!
Post by: nddons on April 01, 2019, 03:45:29 PM
Same specs as I'm looking for. Must be canopy but don't care what kind of paint job. I'm torn between a good panel and a basic panel that needs upgrading given the cool stuff that Garmin has out now. Good luck in your search!Here’s one that got away. I just found it but it was sold in September.
https://www.facebook.com/379105195953025/posts/406154279914783?sfns=mo
Post by: Anthony on April 02, 2019, 04:15:18 AM
Post by: Little Joe on April 02, 2019, 05:06:12 AM
Damn it you guys! Now I want a Navion. That is cool as heck!I was thinking the same thing, and I already own a Bonanza!
Post by: Username on April 02, 2019, 06:42:02 AM
I was thinking the same thing, and I already own a Bonanza!There's a beautiful Navion for sale in Trade-a-Plane for only $110k. Huge IO550 engine, sweet panel (woodgrain, no less) and lots of mods. The best part about Navions is the cabin width: 47 inches vs a 182 at 42 inches. That does slow it down a bit, but the elbow room is nice.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on April 02, 2019, 08:16:22 AM
Resistance is futile.
Post by: nddons on April 02, 2019, 11:17:15 AM
As a reluctant curmudgeonly right seater, I’d say that chart is absolutely accurate.I think I can speak for the other knuckle-dragging male pilots on this Board when I say we love you.
Resistance is futile.
Post by: asechrest on April 02, 2019, 12:14:48 PM
I haven't flown in a few years, now. :( Sometime when life calms down I'll get back into it. Maybe retire to an aviation community.
Here's my third-to-last landing - not my best!
Post by: Little Joe on April 02, 2019, 04:24:07 PM
What kind of headset was that? Clarity aloft? Other?
Post by: Number7 on April 02, 2019, 07:39:55 PM
Awesome photos, Stan. :)
I haven't flown in a few years, now. :( Sometime when life calms down I'll get back into it. Maybe retire to an aviation community.
Here's my third-to-last landing - not my best!
That’s Pery Florida, right?
I used to fly up there on evenings whence airport and the wind was dead and hop around using all three of the runways. I took a couple of students up there to work on close in maneuvers. The long triangle runways are great places to practice all kinds of things.
The pulp wood factory smell wasn’t all that great, but the bbq buffet in town was a good place to pig out before heading back south.
Post by: asechrest on April 02, 2019, 08:32:23 PM
For some reason, I always pictured you as a blonde.
What kind of headset was that? Clarity aloft? Other?
Not sure how to take the blonde comment. ;) I did finally get rid of the bowl cut of 35 years, though.
It's the Quiet Technologies Halo - https://www.quiettechnologies.com/
Post by: asechrest on April 02, 2019, 08:40:49 PM
That’s Pery Florida, right?
I used to fly up there on evenings whence airport and the wind was dead and hop around using all three of the runways. I took a couple of students up there to work on close in maneuvers. The long triangle runways are great places to practice all kinds of things.
The pulp wood factory smell wasn’t all that great, but the bbq buffet in town was a good place to pig out before heading back south.
Yes, North Perry Airport. When I was doing the long distance relationship thing with my SO, I joined a flying club in South Florida. The plane was based out of North Perry. I didn't get a whole lot of use out of the membership. I did my club checkout in the area, then a solo or two, took a couple folks over Miami Beach. The best family trip was when we hopped from North Perry over to Everglades Airpark. That was, by far, the shortest runway I'd ever landed on at 2,400 feet. I spent some time practicing short fields as well as giving a lot of mental thought to it. I nailed it by a mile, but as we're finishing the approach I look down and see a twin overturned in the shallow water on the approach end of the runway. Turns out he attempted to land opposite direction earlier in the day, floated the entire length of the runway, and blew off the end into the water. The guy at the "fbo" said he never attempted to go around. :-\ Pilot was ok.
Post by: Number7 on April 03, 2019, 04:55:12 AM
Yes, North Perry Airport. When I was doing the long distance relationship thing with my SO, I joined a flying club in South Florida. The plane was based out of North Perry. I didn't get a whole lot of use out of the membership. I did my club checkout in the area, then a solo or two, took a couple folks over Miami Beach. The best family trip was when we hopped from North Perry over to Everglades Airpark. That was, by far, the shortest runway I'd ever landed on at 2,400 feet. I spent some time practicing short fields as well as giving a lot of mental thought to it. I nailed it by a mile, but as we're finishing the approach I look down and see a twin overturned in the shallow water on the approach end of the runway. Turns out he attempted to land opposite direction earlier in the day, floated the entire length of the runway, and blew off the end into the water. The guy at the "fbo" said he never attempted to go around. :-\ Pilot was ok.
The two funny how fun those old days were when we all were learning, trying out our songs, discovering all the little secrets and so
Etimes just having a little fun.
I haven’t stopped at north Perry in years!