PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on April 17, 2019, 12:29:17 PM
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I've said it before, Sandy has set her sights on celebrity, not politics.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-top-hollywood-agency-explored-book-deal
New York Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez reportedly hired a top Hollywood talent agency and explored a possibility of writing a book, though the deal appears to have gone nowhere.
Ocasio-Cortez, the self-described Democratic Socialist who got into Congress after defeating prominent Democrat Joe Crowley in her district in November, has come to symbolize the party’s leftward movement.
Ocasio-Cortez retained the talent agency Creative Artists Agency (CAA) and held meetings earlier this year about potentially writing a book, the Daily Beast reported.
The book deal in the end didn’t materialize, with reasons remaining unknown, the report said. It’s also unclear if the book deal will be resurrected at a later date or whether she continues working with the top Hollywood talent agency that reportedly represents the likes of George Clooney, Emma Watson, and Brad Pitt.
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I can’t see her celebrity continuing if she is merely a one term congressman. Most celebrities are actually presumed to be doing something. After 24 months of ignorant but confident pontificating, she’d have nothing to be a celebrity about.
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I can’t see her celebrity continuing if she is merely a one term congressman. Most celebrities are actually presumed to be doing something. After 24 months of ignorant but confident pontificating, she’d have nothing to be a celebrity about.
Look at the Kardashians. ::)
Or even look at some of the social media "stars".
Like I said previously, the dims will get rid of her*, they'll just use their friends in Hollyweird to do that for them.
* see Pelosi's latest quip comparing AOC to a glass of water with a "D" next to it.
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Look at the Kardashians. ::)
Well Kim got famous from her sex tape. Now, she's just famous for her incredibly fat ass, but I digress. Some people find the Kardashian women attractive and interesting. I don't. They are blood sucking vampires. All of them.
Maybe if Cortez does a sex tape she could continue her fame sans politics. But those crazy eyes, and horse teeth may "bite" her. She could be a lackey for Soros, her backer. Hmmm.
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Well Kim got famous from her sex tape. Now, she's just famous for her incredibly fat ass, but I digress. Some people find the Kardashian women attractive and interesting. I don't. They are blood sucking vampires. All of them.
Maybe if Cortez does a sex tape she could continue her fame sans politics. But those crazy eyes, and horse teeth may "bite" her. She could be a lackey for Soros, her backer. Hmmm.
I agree! People keep saying how attractive she is. Ygtbsm.
Back when I was single (36 years ago) she might have caught my attention from across the room in a bar. But if upon approaching her I caught her horse teach smile or utterly irritating voice, I would call for an immediate Go Around - Power Up, Clean Up, Call it, proceed to the hold.
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It is a truth generally known that Democrats prefer their leaders to be not just unqualified, but singularly so. Examples abound. Obama most spectacularly. And celebrities pontificating about politics illustrates the principle. What qualifies them as authoritative voices? They are almost all leftists. In many cases the only claim to fame they have is, for reasons completely mystifying, their fame. When you can be famous for doing nothing (Paris Hilton comes to mind), most rational people’s bullshit detectors would be blinking double red.
But there I go, expecting people to be rational again.
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I agree! People keep saying how attractive she is. Ygtbsm.
A good photographer could make my grandmother look good. It is no coincidence that all the pictures you saw on TV or print media of Obama and now OAC made them look angelic, whereas all the pictures in the MSM made people like GWB and Trump look like mean, ignorant monkeys.
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Now, she's just famous for her incredibly fat ass, but I digress. Some people find the Kardashian women attractive and interesting. I don't.
I don't know how anyone can find an ass that blocks out all sunlight to be attractive.
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A good photographer could make my grandmother look good. It is no coincidence that all the pictures you saw on TV or print media of Obama and now OAC made them look angelic, whereas all the pictures in the MSM made people like GWB and Trump look like mean, ignorant monkeys.
My sister sent me a snap of my mom who is 92. She looks no older than 40. Kind of a trick of the camera she doesn’t really look that young although she has aged well. Your point is correct.
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It is a truth generally known that Democrats prefer their leaders to be not just unqualified, but singularly so.
Let's be real - they don't expect them to be unqualified. They expect them to be qualified by a different set of standards. Right now, a "good" Democrat leader is an extreme leftist.
If you can't accept there are other standards than yours, then you have the same problem the leftists have. I think it's a sign of maturity when you recognize that others do not share your goals and values.
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Let's be real - they don't expect them to be unqualified. They expect them to be qualified by a different set of standards. Right now, a "good" Democrat leader is an extreme leftist.
If you can't accept there are other standards than yours, then you have the same problem the leftists have. I think it's a sign of maturity when you recognize that others do not share your goals and values.
Agreed. However, I view AOC as "unqualified", and not very bright. I viewed Obama as somewhat intelligent, at least on the outside, but also unqualified, but not in the same way as AOC. The Democrats want "qualified" far leftists now. Meaning they can articulate and sell the Progressive Agenda in a manner that many Americans can justify, and rationalize. It's the used car salesman routine. Obama did it well. You buy the car because the salesman sold your EMOTIONS. When you get home with it you realize it is a huge Lemon. Like Obamacare.
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Let's be real - they don't expect them to be unqualified. They expect them to be qualified by a different set of standards. Right now, a "good" Democrat leader is an extreme leftist.
If you can't accept there are other standards than yours, then you have the same problem the leftists have. I think it's a sign of maturity when you recognize that others do not share your goals and values.
I stand by my statement. The left wants empty suits, and they get them. My dearest wish, after seeing the perpetrators of the Russia hoax being indicted, tried, and imprisoned, is for the left’s puppeteers to be exposed and brought to justice. The empty suits are just eyewash, bait for the lefties, who prefer an idea over a stark reality, the belief that they are good and right whilst condoning the most heinous wrongs.
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I stand by my statement. The left wants empty suits, and they get them. My dearest wish, after seeing the perpetrators of the Russia hoax being indicted, tried, and imprisoned, is for the left’s puppeteers to be exposed and brought to justice. The empty suits are just eyewash, bait for the lefties, who prefer an idea over a stark reality, the belief that they are good and right whilst condoning the most heinous wrongs.
I believe that is what I was trying to articulate but not as well as you. Yes, empty suits that can sell the emotion of socialism, and more, and bigger government and hence control of the populace. Their view is that we are only their to support and serve THEM, where in reality those effing egomaniacs WORK FOR US.
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I stand by my statement. The left wants empty suits, and they get them. My dearest wish, after seeing the perpetrators of the Russia hoax being indicted, tried, and imprisoned, is for the left’s puppeteers to be exposed and brought to justice. The empty suits are just eyewash, bait for the lefties, who prefer an idea over a stark reality, the belief that they are good and right whilst condoning the most heinous wrongs.
Nobody WANTS empty suits. What they want is something that is logically impossible and they ALLOW empty suits to sell them their promises.
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Nobody WANTS empty suits. What they want is something that is logically impossible and they ALLOW empty suits to sell them their promises.
If they don’t want empty suits, why do they vote for them?
A gay empty suit is even better than a straight one. A commie empty suit will do, though. It’s all about the identity, not the substance.
Do you think the discussion will be had about how socialism lets a lot of people down?
https://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1118401454111256576
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If they don’t want empty suits, why do they vote for them?
A gay empty suit is even better than a straight one. A commie empty suit will do, though. It’s all about the identity, not the substance.
Do you think the discussion will be had about how socialism lets a lot of people down?
https://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1118401454111256576
They vote for them because they are gullible; the same trait that makes them think Socialism has a chance of working in the first place.
When Butboy says Mayor Pete Buttigieg: "I think the reason we're having this argument over socialism and capitalism is that capitalism has let a lot of people down."
he has a point. Capitalism has let some people down (or rather allowed people to let themselves down). What is left unsaid is that Socialism has let many times as many people down.
As much as I reject socialism and liberalism, I have no belief that liberals and socialists WANT empty suits. They are just incapable of distinguishing their wishes from reality.
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They vote for them because they are gullible; the same trait that makes them think Socialism has a chance of working in the first place.
When Butboy says he has a point. Capitalism has let some people down (or rather allowed people to let themselves down). What is left unsaid is that Socialism has let many times as many people down.
As much as I reject socialism and liberalism, I have no belief that liberals and socialists WANT empty suits. They are just incapable of distinguishing their wishes from reality.
The empty suit is the carrier of the wishes, Joe. It is required to keep the wishes alive. One wants that which affirms one’s own wishes. This is especially true when a different perspective must absolutely be seen as wrong when it threatens one’s own wishes. Only an empty suit can do that, because rational thought is not expected or required of it. It merely carries the illusion of the wishes fulfilled.
I have no problem discussing the problems inherent in both capitalism and socialism. You can’t say that about those who are in thrall to the wish-carriers.
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Nobody WANTS empty suits. What they want is something that is logically impossible and they ALLOW empty suits to sell them their promises.
They may not consciously want an empty suit because that would mean they are easily duped, but they often end up with them because the ARE easily duped, and want to believe the snake oil salesman. That's why Democrats always speak in unmeasurable concepts like Hope and Change, Social and Economic Justice, We need to have a conversation, and other broad ideals and statements that have no metrics.
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You guys and your fellow travelers made her a star. Can't blame her for hiring an agent, its what stars do.
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You guys and your fellow travelers made her a star. Can't blame her for hiring an agent, its what stars do.
Is she really a star or just a new shiny penny that will eventually get dull and left with the stale fry under the car seat?
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You guys and your fellow travelers made her a star. Can't blame her for hiring an agent, its what stars do.
The Media showcases her almost daily, and she embarrasses herself with her utter stupidity which is a trademark of Democrats (liberal/progressives). You just don't like us commenting on her because it highlights and underscores Democrat stupidity. The fact you support that party should embarrass you.
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Let us not forget that Pelosi said a water bottle with a "D" on it could get elected in that district.
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Let us not forget that Pelosi said a water bottle with a "D" on it could get elected in that district.
Well to be fair, she did beat the long standing Democrat in that district in the Primary. He was too much of a mainstream, old school Democrat, and she came in preaching socialism which appeals to the immigrant, and illegal alien population there. The Demographics I think changed in the district also to include more foreigners.
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You guys and your fellow travelers made her a star. Can't blame her for hiring an agent, its what stars do.
It's the democrat controlled MSM that can't get enough of her. The conservative media just laughs at her and her idiocy, which leftist just can't see.
It was (and still is) the democrat controlled MSM that wants to see her star rise.
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Let us not forget that Pelosi said a water bottle with a "D" on it could get elected in that district.
That's how Pelosi got her seat.
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That's how Pelosi got her seat.
And that's how Obama won his state senate seat. And his US senate seat.
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And that's how Obama won his state senate seat. And his US senate seat.
Actually BHO won his US senate seat because someone leaked the divorce papers of his opponent. Right out of the democrat playbook.
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Well to be fair, she did beat the long standing Democrat in that district in the Primary. He was too much of a mainstream, old school Democrat, and she came in preaching socialism which appeals to the immigrant, and illegal alien population there. The Demographics I think changed in the district also to include more foreigners.
She got less than 16,000 votes, and now she thinks she knows better than over 300 million people.
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She got less than 16,000 votes, and now she thinks she knows better than over 300 million people.
And she not only thinks she knows better she wants to dictate her views to people.
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Agreed. However, I view AOC as "unqualified", and not very bright. I viewed Obama as somewhat intelligent, at least on the outside, but also unqualified, but not in the same way as AOC. The Democrats want "qualified" far leftists now. Meaning they can articulate and sell the Progressive Agenda in a manner that many Americans can justify, and rationalize. It's the used car salesman routine. Obama did it well. You buy the car because the salesman sold your EMOTIONS. When you get home with it you realize it is a huge Lemon. Like Obamacare.
She and those like her have this idealistic view that a pure Marxist society is how government should be, not acknowledging (or even realizing) that no country to date has been able to pull it off. It is not sustainable. Her views on economics are akin to Flat Earth Society members' views on geography.
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And she not only thinks she knows better she wants to dictate her views to people.
Straight from the Dim's playbook. I get that from the local Dims here. No one else's opinion matters except their's but they like to brag about how 'open to other's opinion' they are.
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Straight from the Dim's playbook. I get that from the local Dims here. No one else's opinion matters except their's but they like to brag about how 'open to other's opinion' they are.
You have to wonder what the goals of those backing, and handling her and others are. Destabilization of the U.S.? Extreme currency devaluation? The Democrats seem to be going down the extreme left path with people like Bernie, AOC, and others trying to out Commie each other.
Biden is running, and made the statement a few weeks ago that he was the most Progressive (Commie) candidate running for President. Watch the free stuff for all mantra from these candidates trying to out do each other with Healthcare, College Education, Universal Income, Amnesty (Open Borders), etc.
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You have to wonder what the goals of those backing, and handling her and others are. Destabilization of the U.S.? Extreme currency devaluation? The Democrats seem to be going down the extreme left path with people like Bernie, AOC, and others trying to out Commie each other.
Biden is running, and made the statement a few weeks ago that he was the most Progressive (Commie) candidate running for President. Watch the free stuff for all mantra from these candidates trying to out do each other with Healthcare, College Education, Universal Income, Amnesty (Open Borders), etc.
Ultimately their goal is power. That’s it. All of the things you listed but also disarming the citizenry and suppressing any civic demonstration of faith or transcendent values except the socialist screed. Because that’s how you get cattle, not independent thinkers. America may possibly now contain enough cattle to tip the scales to socialist. The Dems are counting on that.
The final result: A few elite, a lot of discontented subjects, some of whom create wealth which is appropriated by the elite for themselves and to keep the voting hordes dependent, and no exceptionalism.
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Sandy Cortez, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are the new faces of the democrat party, and the defacto leaders of the party.
The perfesser should be proud!
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Sandy Cortez, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are the new faces of the democrat party, and the defacto leaders of the party.
The perfesser should be proud!
The communist professor will be among the VERY first people Ilan and Rashida demand be backed up against a wall and exterminated because he’s Jewish AND useless to them. He can’t see that because his hatred is so blinding to him.
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The communist Peterson will be among the VERY first people Ilan and Rashida demand be backed up against a wall and exterminated because he’s Jewish AND useless to them. He can’t see that because his hatred is so blinding to him.
One of the first things communists do when they gain power is to purge the intellectuals. Can't have the masses thinking for themselves, can they?
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One of the first things communists do when they gain power is to purge the intellectuals. Can't have the masses thinking for themselves, can they?
That is actually part of the Facist playbook. Communists send intellectuals to reeducation camps.
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That is actually part of the Facist playbook. Communists send intellectuals to reeducation camps.
Yep. Stalin reeducated 1.2 million to death. Mao reeducated 30 million to death. Reeducation by communists is certainly effective. Not all are intellectuals, but all are very very dead:
According to R. J. Rummel's book Death by Government (1994), about 110 million people, foreign and domestic, were killed by Communist democide from 1900 to 1987.
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I had to look up “democide.” Wow. A good word, along with the stats for it in recent history, to use when libs start yammering they don’t want to take your guns. Of course, all they’ll register is that your lips are moving.
“The intentional killing of an unarmed or disarmed person by government agents acting in their authoritative capacity and pursuant to government policy or high command".
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That is actually part of the Facist playbook. Communists send intellectuals to reeducation camps.
So why is the left, which is not hiding its drive toward socialism, so populated with “intellectuals?” Severe guilt to the point of self immolation by government?
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So why is the left, which is not hiding its drive toward socialism, so populated with “intellectuals?” Severe guilt to the point of self immolation by government?
Well instead of the "Intellectuals" being against Totalitarian Communism, they've embraced it where in the past they were more for freedom, liberty, and freedom of thought and expression. Now they are a big part of the problem along with public schools, and the Media.
Now College professors and their administrations are Far Left Progressive and only for allowing ONE type of though on campus. Their thought.
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So why is the left, which is not hiding its drive toward socialism, so populated with “intellectuals?” Severe guilt to the point of self immolation by government?
It's part of TDS. Trump likes capitalism, therefore the left hates capitalism.
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That is actually part of the Facist playbook. Communists send intellectuals to reeducation camps.
Why is it that history absolutely refutes so many of your fallacious lies?
I also noticed that you ignore the brutal hatred for Jews and Israel by the filth in Congress that is referenced day after day after day....
Hate is so totally the playground of progressives.
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So why is the left, which is not hiding its drive toward socialism, so populated with “intellectuals?” Severe guilt to the point of self immolation by government?
No, its just the intellectuals are smart enough to see through the GOP hypocrisy that you all worship.
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No, its just the intellectuals are smart enough to see through the GOP hypocrisy that you all worship.
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No, its just the intellectuals are smart enough to see through the GOP hypocrisy that you all worship.
So why do you still stand with a political party that was founded on hate and racism? And the pillars of that party today are hate, racism and bigotry.
Let’s see, the foundation of conservatism is individual liberty, rejection of aristocratic and monarchical government and uphold the principles of the United States Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. Conservatives advocate the preservation of personal wealth and private ownership (Capitalism) and emphasize self-reliance and Individualism.
So why do you cling to the Democrats?
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No, its just the intellectuals are smart enough to see through the GOP hypocrisy that you all worship.
I always laugh when people describe themselves as an "Intellectual". Very elitist sounding. However, as I said previously, college professors and their Administrations have embrace the Far Left Progressive mindset which mirrors Communism and its Utopian ideals in many ways.
They also embrace curtailing Free Speech, and free expression if they go against the Progressive Hypocrisy you all worship.
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No, its just the intellectuals are smart enough to see through the GOP hypocrisy that you all worship.
Hahahahahahaha.....
What a maroon.
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Hahahahahahaha.....
What a maroon.
Why did Odin create Number 7?
So garbagemen would have someone to look down on.
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Why did Odin create Number 7?
So garbagemen would have someone to look down on.
Just like a dem to attack a hard working person because it doesn't fit a narrative of what they think others should be.
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Just like a dem to attack a hard working person because it doesn't fit a narrative of what they think others should be.
I applaud EVERYONE who works an honest job, for an honest wage. He sounds like the elitist he certainly is, and that is consistent with many Leftists. They know better so want to force their view of the world on the rest of us.
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Just like a dem to attack a hard working person because it doesn't fit a narrative of what they think others should be.
My dad taught me through his actions how to treat others at any station in life. He treated literally everyone with equal respect. Steingar missed that lesson.
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I applaud EVERYONE who works an honest job, for an honest wage. He sounds like the elitist he certainly is, and that is consistent with many Leftists. They know better so want to force their view of the world on the rest of us.
Totally agree. I have great respect for trash collectors who are out there busting their ass every day in every weather. There's no way I could do what he does for even a few hours. The same goes for the guys up there replacing roofs in the middle of summer or pumping my septic tank in the middle of winter. And especially those who have their lives on the line in service to the country and first responders who give it their all. And everyone else who, like you said, works an honest job for an honest wage.
For someone who looks down on someone else for the job that they do? There are no words.
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Totally agree. I have great respect for trash collectors who are out there busting their ass every day in every weather. There's no way I could do what he does for even a few hours. The same goes for the guys up there replacing roofs in the middle of summer or pumping my septic tank in the middle of winter. And especially those who have their lives on the line in service to the country and first responders who give it their all. And everyone else who, like you said, works an honest job for an honest wage.
For someone who looks down on someone else for the job that they do? There are no words.
Yet it certainly provides us with insight to one’s character.
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It was a joke, children. Get over yourselves. I suppose I should have said Odin invented Number 7 so that lawyers would have someone to look down on, but garbagemen sounded funnier.
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It was a joke, children. Get over yourselves. I suppose I should have said Odin invented Number 7 so that lawyers would have someone to look down on, but garbagemen sounded funnier.
You’re such a phony. You weren’t joking, you were caught, once again. You can’t hide your true disgust you hold for people you view as beneath you.
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When the parasitic professor isn’t lying about the pillars of progressivism, he’s pretending to be superior to the rest of us... and he is, it’s just only in his little, closed, mind.
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It was a joke, children. Get over yourselves. I suppose I should have said Odin invented Number 7 so that lawyers would have someone to look down on, but garbagemen sounded funnier.
So the fact you think it's ok to joke about them really shows how much contempt you have for the working man. So much for being the party of acceptance.
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When the parasitic professor isn’t lying about the pillars of progressivism, he’s pretending to be superior to the rest of us... and he is, it’s just only in his little, closed, mind.
What's the difference between Number 7 and a jellyfish?
One is a spineless toxic blob. The other is a form of sea life.
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Unfortunately, we’re one election away from being ruled by myopic, immature, hypocritical snobs like Steingar.
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Unfortunately, we’re one election away from being ruled by myopic, immature, hypocritical snobs like Steingar.
I do think Trump has a good chance of winning again, but after that who knows. The Indoctrination Camps we call schools and universities have done their job as has the MEDIA (propaganda arm of the Democrats). Corporations are totally on board with Progressive, far left oppression being sold by the Democrats.
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What's the difference between Number 7 and a jellyfish?
Have you ever watched, really watched a jellyfish in its native environment? It's a thing of beauty. Its iridescent body constantly changing colors with changes in the light. Pulsating slowly and trailing a net of tentacles. It's amazing that something so ethereal is actually alive. I've done a lot of diving and jellyfish are pretty cool to watch. But don't get too close or you'll be in a world of hurt.
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No, its just the intellectuals are smart enough to see through the GOP hypocrisy that you all worship.
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand the difference between healthcare and health insurance?
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand the difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants?
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand that if someone has a Y chromosome he is not a woman, and if someone has an X chromosome she isn't a man?
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand the dishonesty of class warfare?
Those "intellectuals"?
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The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand the difference between healthcare and health insurance?
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand the difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants?
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand that if someone has a Y chromosome he is not a woman, and if someone has an X chromosome she isn't a man?
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand the dishonesty of class warfare?
Those "intellectuals"?
You nailed it Bob!
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You nailed it Bob!
Yes, he certainly did, and easily so many more examples could be listed. It’s just too rich when Steingar throws intellectualism and hypocrisy onto the table and then descends into elementary school playground taunts. Some here actually have met Steingar, but I would have had no trouble believing he is a troll.
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The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand the difference between healthcare and health insurance?
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand the difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants?
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand that if someone has a Y chromosome he is not a woman, and if someone has an X chromosome she isn't a man?
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand the dishonesty of class warfare?
Those "intellectuals"?
Agree but to pick a nit... I think you mean if someone has two X chromosomes she isn't a man. ;D
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Agree but to pick a nit... I think you mean if someone has two X chromosomes she isn't a man. ;D
This is too ridiculously easy. You’re either an innie, or an outie... period.
The rest is mental illness, liberal idiocy and attention whoring.
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Yes, he certainly did, and easily so many more examples could be listed. It’s just too rich when Steingar throws intellectualism and hypocrisy onto the table and then descends into elementary school playground taunts. Some here actually have met Steingar, but I would have had no trouble believing he is a troll.
I've met him at various fly ins from POA. He is steeped in Progressive (Commie) ideology, that's where the taunts come from.
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This is too ridiculously easy. You’re either an innie, or an outie... period.
The rest is mental illness, liberal idiocy and attention whoring.
Well picking nits again, there are people who have two X chromosomes (female) but also have a copy of Y (male). They have too low levels of the male sex hormone testosterone and too much of the various female hormones and so they tend to grow breasts and wide hips and less muscle mass like a female but they have male genitals although they may be sub-par functionally.
Then there are the botched circumcisms where the poor child had all his package removed after the penis necrosed and fell off when his misguided doctors recommended he be raised as a girl.
I could go on. My point is there is not quite the black-white divide of gender you propose and cases like these deserve compassion and understanding. What pisses me off no end is that the left has politicized and weaponized gender identity disorders as one of its identity politics groups to be USED in their sick, corrupt drive to destroy our country and our culture, and they have enticed all manner of gullible persons to join this group who may have nothing more wrong with them than a temporary neurotic confusion, doing horrific damage to these people as well as neglecting to promote REAL research into the REAL victims of gender dysmorphia.
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What pisses me off no end is that the left has politicized and weaponized gender identity disorders as one of its identity politics groups to be USED in their sick, corrupt drive to destroy our country and our culture, and they have enticed all manner of gullible persons to join this group who may have nothing more wrong with them than a temporary neurotic confusion, doing horrific damage to these people as well as neglecting to promote REAL research into the REAL victims of gender dysmorphia.
This.
The worst thing the GLB community ever did to itself was add the T, and all of the mental health and science denying aspects that it brings.
Most people are accepting of and coexist with the GLB community. The Trans freak show is so offputting that it casts the entire GLBTXYZ community in the worst light.
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To be honest, I've yet to meet a trans of either direction who wasn't badly damaged. I don't mean to disparage those people, they have the right to do as they see fit. But the ones I've met have deeper underlying problems.
That said, my sample size is admittedly limited.
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This.
The worst thing the GLB community ever did to itself was add the T, and all of the mental health and science denying aspects that it brings.
Most people are accepting of and coexist with the GLB community. The Trans freak show is so offputting that it casts the entire GLBTXYZ community in the worst light.
I am relatively confident that most of the Gay and Lesbian community just want to live and let live. It is their self appointed "leadership" that is the problem because they have a political agenda. Yes, the Trans thing was a mistake to lump them all together like that. "Trans" and gay/lesbian are totally different issues, but I do think that most of them (all LGBT) have some emotional, or mental issues because when you boil it down they are all "abnormalities".
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To be honest, I've yet to meet a trans of either direction who wasn't badly damaged. I don't mean to disparage those people, they have the right to do as they see fit. But the ones I've met have deeper underlying problems.
That said, my sample size is admittedly limited.
Wait. You're specialty is genetics and you work at the 3rd largest university in the country. I would think your sample size would be greater than the average person.
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I am relatively confident that most of the Gay and Lesbian community just want to live and let live. It is their self appointed "leadership" that is the problem because they have a political agenda. Yes, the Trans thing was a mistake to lump them all together like that. "Trans" and gay/lesbian are totally different issues, but I do think that most of them (all LGBT) have some emotional, or mental issues because when you boil it down they are all "abnormalities".
That is precisely why so many of those posting on WalkAway are gay, lesbian and trans. It’s astounding really, but they’re leaving the Dem Party with its identity politics and haranguing attempts to contort our entire society to a small group of outliers. That is a big reason given for un-Democratting oneself, but the next most common one is the radical hate within the GLBTXQ “community,” which really is just a festering mess of offendedness.
Trans “men” demand that normal men see them as women and date them. A gay who has conservative tendencies is Uncle Tommed. Battles rage over which group gets the most media attention and which group is the most oppressed. Gay employees sue their employers because they felt slighted by someone at the water cooler or perceive they’re being treated differently.
Brandon Straka, founder of the WalkAway Campaign, is gay, and periodically he will post screenshots of posts and tweets and messages from his former “friends” who unfriended or even unpersoned him for his conservative views.
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The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand the difference between healthcare and health insurance?
the two are intimately related, dumbass
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand the difference between immigrants and illegal immigrants?
Intellectual are, but intellectuals are smart enough to know that an illegal immigrant who stays here long term, contributes to our society without getting into or causing trouble and puts down roots os someone worth keeping. Something Trumpkins can't seem seem to wrap their pin heads around.
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand that if someone has a Y chromosome he is not a woman, and if someone has an X chromosome she isn't a man?
Some intellectuals are smart enough to know that presence of an SRY region confers maleness through the TDF, but human sexuality is enormously complex. It is affected by a plethora of genes, environmental controls and hormonal flux. As such some folks seem to identify the other way. Like I said, the ones I've met were off, but I still say live and let live. The ones I've met are either solid contributing citizens or trying to be. Of course, the conservative says jail them all, or some such.
The "intellectuals" that aren't smart enough to understand the dishonesty of class warfare?
Some intellectuals study history, and know what happens when things are run by landed hereditary aristocracies like what we're developing right now in the United States, where 40% of the nation is owned by 1% of its citizens. Conservatives seem to adore that situation for reasons i will never understand.
Those "intellectuals"?
Yeah, those intellectuals, Bob. Some of us don't care about ideology. Some of us like to do what works.
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Intellectuals like the self proclaimed one we have here are BLINDED by Leftist Ideology. Gender is not complex. Yes there are anomalies, however, the vast majority of people are either Male or Female.
Capitalism and the REPUBLIC of the United States has created the best standard of living for more people than any other society or country in the world. It isn't perfect but it works. Our "poor" live like kings compared to the other poor people in many countries.
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the two are intimately related, dumbass
Intellectual are, but intellectuals are smart enough to know that an illegal immigrant who stays here long term, contributes to our society without getting into or causing trouble and puts down roots os someone worth keeping. Something Trumpkins can't seem seem to wrap their pin heads around.
Some intellectuals are smart enough to know that presence of an SRY region confers maleness through the TDF, but human sexuality is enormously complex. It is affected by a plethora of genes, environmental controls and hormonal flux. As such some folks seem to identify the other way. Like I said, the ones I've met were off, but I still say live and let live. The ones I've met are either solid contributing citizens or trying to be. Of course, the conservative says jail them all, or some such.
Some intellectuals study history, and know what happens when things are run by landed hereditary aristocracies like what we're developing right now in the United States, where 40% of the nation is owned by 1% of its citizens. Conservatives seem to adore that situation for reasons i will never understand.
Yeah, those intellectuals, Bob. Some of us don't care about ideology. Some of us like to do what works.
And this is why I regard Steingar as a troll. Potential discussion about complex issues (health care, health insurance, illegal immigration) avoided, derogatory names flung instead.
Weird accusation that conservatives want to jail gender dysphoric people. Proof please.
"Landed hereditary aristocracies?" One percent of America's citizens own 40% of the nation? In what way? Proof, please.
And the crowning glory of trollhood: He wants to do what works, and conservatives don't! He clings to his ideology so desperately he has to deny he has one. "Some of us don't care about ideology," says he. And everyone who doesn't hold his ideology (which he doesn't have!) doesn't want things actually to work. Despite the fact that leftist ideology, in practice, never works.
Steingar is so typically leftist it's damn laughable. You and your party, Steingar, are so desperate for voters that you have to import them illegally, lower the voting age to harvest the immature vote, and change laws to allow felons, including such nice guys as the Boston Bomber, to vote. So Democrats are terrorist sympathizers now.
Oops, gotta go roam the streets with a noose in case I can find any black people. See ya.
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the two are intimately related, dumbass
Intellectual are, but intellectuals are smart enough to know that an illegal immigrant who stays here long term, contributes to our society without getting into or causing trouble and puts down roots os someone worth keeping. Something Trumpkins can't seem seem to wrap their pin heads around.
Some intellectuals are smart enough to know that presence of an SRY region confers maleness through the TDF, but human sexuality is enormously complex. It is affected by a plethora of genes, environmental controls and hormonal flux. As such some folks seem to identify the other way. Like I said, the ones I've met were off, but I still say live and let live. The ones I've met are either solid contributing citizens or trying to be. Of course, the conservative says jail them all, or some such.
Some intellectuals study history, and know what happens when things are run by landed hereditary aristocracies like what we're developing right now in the United States, where 40% of the nation is owned by 1% of its citizens. Conservatives seem to adore that situation for reasons i will never understand.
Yeah, those intellectuals, Bob. Some of us don't care about ideology. Some of us like to do what works.
Good job validating Bobs findings. You've convinced me he's right.
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Yeah, those intellectuals, Bob. Some of us don't care about ideology. Some of us like to do what works.
Let's just look at this statement.
Does rewarding laziness "work"?
Does reducing incentive for people to be productive "work"?
Does allowing criminals to vote bring integrity to the voting process?
Does allowing children to vote bring maturity to the process?
Also, you said that some of our problems are due to having 300 million people rather than 100 million. How will allowing millions more into the country illegally work to reduce those problems?
The only thing those thing work well at is to cement the power of the people that would take our rights and our standard of living away.
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And this is why I regard Steingar as a troll. Potential discussion about complex issues (health care, health insurance, illegal immigration) avoided, derogatory names flung instead.
Weird accusation that conservatives want to jail gender dysphoric people. Proof please.
"Landed hereditary aristocracies?" One percent of America's citizens own 40% of the nation? In what way? Proof, please.
And the crowning glory of trollhood: He wants to do what works, and conservatives don't! He clings to his ideology so desperately he has to deny he has one. "Some of us don't care about ideology," says he. And everyone who doesn't hold his ideology (which he doesn't have!) doesn't want things actually to work. Despite the fact that leftist ideology, in practice, never works.
Steingar is so typically leftist it's damn laughable. You and your party, Steingar, are so desperate for voters that you have to import them illegally, lower the voting age to harvest the immature vote, and change laws to allow felons, including such nice guys as the Boston Bomber, to vote. So Democrats are terrorist sympathizers now.
Oops, gotta go roam the streets with a noose in case I can find any black people. See ya.
I feel no need to respond to someone so ignorant they think tomato puree is more flavorful than the amazing pizza source made in the kitchens of Steinholme.
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As always the coward surfaces and runs away.....
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I feel no need to respond to someone so ignorant they think tomato puree is more flavorful than the amazing pizza source made in the kitchens of Steinholme.
Saucist! You’ve had your little joke, so now show us your chops by defending your bizarre statements.
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This.
The worst thing the GLB community ever did to itself was add the T, and all of the mental health and science denying aspects that it brings.
Most people are accepting of and coexist with the GLB community. The Trans freak show is so offputting that it casts the entire GLBTXYZ community in the worst light.
This. By expanding the victim group to include all manners of random off the wall peculiarities they kill the credibility of the basic and true GLB, and cause people to dismiss the whole ball of wax, unless you're on board with the identity politic. This therefore hurts the gay community. It's much the same thing as what's happened to sexual assault. When you confine the definition of sexual assault to forcible physical invasion and rape, you have a clear mission to prevent or punish such acts. But when you expand the definition of sexual attack to include mere verbal harassment, compliments, requests for dates, banter or innocent physical contact such as a hand on the shoulder, then you devalue and hurt the victims of true sexual crimes, and you damage the normal mating game by creating an atmosphere of paranoia.
Likewise with immigration. When you blur the line between legal immigration and illegal trespass, you cause a backlash against legal immigrants.
Straight up homosexuality has always been recognized as a pretty steady percent of the population. In many cultures it was accepted and even assigned special categories or vocations. It is common practice in many animal species and so there is a strong argument that it is acceptable in "nature". It seems to be a normal and common variation of the sex drive. It's clear that reproduction is the main, but not the only, reason for sex. Reducing social tension, deflecting conflict, reinforcing alliances, and personal stress relief are reasons for same sex contact in many species. But in all these instances, the animal (person) clearly is either one gender or the other.
Gender identity problems on the other hand, seem to be an abnormal result of random mutations, damage to DNA perhaps, or hormonal misadventures while in the womb, or the result of psychological trauma in early childhood, or as I pointed out earlier, direct interference in development such as genital mutilation (circumcision) complications. I agree with Steingar, in my experience these people are usually a big mess, and I probably have known a lot more of them than he.
Being gay does not require any medical treatment, and gays are otherwise totally normal, and have totally normal relationships, given some sort of basic acceptance in the community. Transgender people on the other hand require medical intervention to have any hope of normal adjustment. This seems to me enough reason to categorize these groups as completely separate. It's horrible the way the left has thrown them together and incited them to agitate politically as some sort of unified group. The focus should be on research and treatment for the second group, not on using them to get votes and gain political power.
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Excellent synopsis Rush.
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Yes, I agree. Except I look at “trans” this way. If I were born feeling like a girl but have male body parts and other biological components, that’s who I am. I would want to stay healthy and enjoy life and accept my life as a gift just as it is. Relationships would be a challenge and marriage per se would be highly unlikely, as they would for anyone born with various challenges.
If I were to obsess over the mismatch between my feelings and my body, I would have to ingest hormones and undergo surgeries and psychological treatment to contort everything so that my feelings matched my body, or so that my body matched my feelings.
The health risks in doing so are enormous. We know now that lives are being shortened by these choices, and the happiness sought is rarely found. Many wish they had not gone down the hormone/surgical path. And relationships are STILL a challenge. The surgically transgendered person is not functionally either sex, really. What has been gained?
I know a man who became a woman, with surgery and the whole shebang. He seemed perfectly normal before. Now he dresses and uses makeup in the fashion of a hooker. He has two sons. When you talk to the sons, they keep their heads down and mumble. Only one word describes them now ... ashamed. They acted normal and happy before their dad transitioned. I’ll need a whole lot of convincing that the dad’s transitioning was worth what it’s doing to his boys.
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In other conversations about the LGBT community my response has often been that I really don't care about them as they are such a small percentage of the population. What they do or don't do does not affect me unless there is some political angle they promote or some court ruling goes down like the crap with the Baker.
I contend that they only comprise 1% - 3% of the total population yet get Media attention and an inordinate amount of representation in Entertainment (Movies, TV) as if they want to mainstream, and normalize being LGBT which is exactly what they are doing. Virtue Signaling SJW's (Progressives, neo Communists) contend they comprise 10% of the population which I say is B.S.
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Yes, I agree. Except I look at “trans” this way. If I were born feeling like a girl but have male body parts and other biological components, that’s who I am. I would want to stay healthy and enjoy life and accept my life as a gift just as it is. Relationships would be a challenge and marriage per se would be highly unlikely, as they would for anyone born with various challenges.
If I were to obsess over the mismatch between my feelings and my body, I would have to ingest hormones and undergo surgeries and psychological treatment to contort everything so that my feelings matched my body, or so that my body matched my feelings.
The health risks in doing so are enormous. We know now that lives are being shortened by these choices, and the happiness sought is rarely found. Many wish they had not gone down the hormone/surgical path. And relationships are STILL a challenge. The surgically transgendered person is not functionally either sex, really. What has been gained?
I know a man who became a woman, with surgery and the whole shebang. He seemed perfectly normal before. Now he dresses and uses makeup in the fashion of a hooker. He has two sons. When you talk to the sons, they keep their heads down and mumble. Only one word describes them now ... ashamed. They acted normal and happy before their dad transitioned. I’ll need a whole lot of convincing that the dad’s transitioning was worth what it’s doing to his boys.
Until medicine figures out how to grow a functioning corpus cavernosum, or how to grow a functioning uterus, or how to avoid such complications as urinary incontinence, fistulas, blockages, etc., I'd stay away from the genital transformation for sure, if I were trans, at least at my age now with my knowledge. But when I was young and uneducated, I don't know what I would have done.
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Until medicine figures out how to grow a functioning corpus cavernosum, or how to grow a functioning uterus, or how to avoid such complications as urinary incontinence, fistulas, blockages, etc., I'd stay away from the genital transformation for sure, if I were trans, at least at my age now with my knowledge. But when I was young and uneducated, I don't know what I would have done.
Rush,
A while back, you said you would fill us in on some of your youthful proclivities sometime.
You know we will still respect you in the morning, don't you?
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In an earlier post the progressive, parasite attacked “Landed Hereditary Aristocraci s.”
He was utterly obvious in his never ending jealousy at anyone who succeeds based on their work and skill.
Progressives rarely actually do things that result in great wealth. Their wealth is far more often taken from those who do, rather than earned. Like progressive professors, who live off of outrageous tuition, fees and never ending taxation, steingar chooses to hate rather than think, envy instead of emulate, and pretend instead of achieve.
It is the hallmark of communism. Never earn that which you can take,
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Something to think about..........
Sandy was elected with a vote total of 110,318. So with 110,318 people voting for her she has become the de facto leader of the democrat party.
Let that sink in for a few............
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The only nit I'd pick with that is that liberals don't think of "undocumented" as illegal.
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The only nit I'd pick with that is that liberals don't think of "undocumented" as illegal.
Agree. That one should read:
Illegal alien = undocumented voter
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Agree. That one should read:
Illegal alien = undocumented voter
Or just "Democrat Voter".
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Or just "Democrat Voter".
I sit eating yoghurt corrected.
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Rush,
A while back, you said you would fill us in on some of your youthful proclivities sometime.
You know we will still respect you in the morning, don't you?
You know how it is, it's on my "to-do" list to go back to Number 7's thread about getting to know each other but my list is getting so long I never got back to it. I think elsewhere I talked about how I hung out with gays when I was young, and a lot of other "misfits". I've never been one to stick with the herd.