PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Old Crow on April 18, 2019, 08:57:31 AM
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https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
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The final nothing burger.
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When will the cliff notes version come out for our liberal friends? ::)
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When will the cliff notes version come out for our liberal friends? ::)
That would be the CNN talking points. They are already spewing them.
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When will the cliff notes version come out for our liberal friends? ::)
”Marxist Democrats colluded with Russia to prevent Trump presidency and failed.”
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CNN is already saying that Trump "wanted" to obstruct justice, but his staff stopped him. They protected him from himself. Then they quote Trump as saying "this is the end of my Presidency; I'm fucked" (paraphrasing because I don't want to look it up right now).
I guess they hope that saying "fucked" will be as bad for him as saying "Pussy".
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I've been on several liberal news sites reading comments. This one is priceless!
It seems the Mueller report really says, Trump obstructed justice but because of the DOJ policy that a sitting president cannot be indicted, it is up to Congress to impeach for high crimes and misdemeanor. That is the bottom line..
Funny, I can't find that anywhere in the report.............
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https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/04/democrats_move_the_goalposts_again.html
The ridiculously long, drawn out, overdone "Trump colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election" investigation proves an ages-old political maxim: the benchmark of proof that a political accusation has to satisfy in order to be considered true will constantly change as the needs of the accuser shift in response to new information.
In other words, if the original charge proves to be baseless, the complainants will invariably lower the threshold of guilt so that even a lesser transgression will be sufficient to condemn the accused.
President Trump is the latest example of that. Let's be candid here — everything about President Trump is anathema to the Democrats.
He beat Hillary Clinton, depriving the Democrats of boasting how they elected the country's first female president.
He is direct, unequivocal, and absolute in his policy pronouncements, eschewing the usual "nod-nod, wink-wink" of Washington speak. What makes it even worse is that President Trump's policy pronouncements are conservative, and his direct, clear-meaning speech rips the cover off years of oh, so carefully developed liberal deceptions.
President Trump calls out the Democrat-sympathetic liberal media for who they are, enraging his enemies for not rolling over and meekly accepting mistreatment at the hands of his liberal opponents the way his milquetoast Republican predecessors did.
His policies — the withdrawal from the Paris Accords, his dismissal of the Iranian nuclear agreements, his tough stance regarding NATO paying its fair share, his position on border security and illegal immigration, his desire for greater domestic American energy production, the re-negotiation of international trade agreements to be more advantageous to this country, and many others — are so blatantly pro-American and popular with the average voter that the supposedly sophisticated liberal Democratic intelligentsia are infuriated over the way his approach resonates in such a positive, commonsense manner with so many people.
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https://100percentfedup.com/daily-wires-never-trump-ben-shapiro-calls-trumps-behavior-embarrassing-and-immoralimmediately-gets-roasted/
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I've been on several liberal news sites reading comments. This one is priceless!
Funny, I can't find that anywhere in the report.............
You have to read between the lines; you know, where you see what you want to see.
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CNN is already saying that Trump "wanted" to obstruct justice, but his staff stopped him. They protected him from himself. Then they quote Trump as saying "this is the end of my Presidency; I'm fucked" (paraphrasing because I don't want to look it up right now).
I guess they hope that saying "fucked" will be as bad for him as saying "Pussy".
To put it in context, I see where "the rest of the story" here is that Trump also said:
Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency,” Trump said, according to Sessions. “It takes years and years and I won’t be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me.
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Reading is so hard.
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So the attempted Coup failed. What happens now?
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So the attempted Coup failed. What happens now?
More fake allegations and distortion of the truth.
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More fake allegations and distortion of the truth.
Correct, but who holds the Media, and Democrats accountable for lying, and attempting to unseat a legitimate sitting President? I know the answer. Nobody. :(
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Correct, but who holds the Media, and Democrats accountable for lying, and attempting to unseat a legitimate sitting President? I know the answer. Nobody. :(
Which is why they want to disarm the population. They fear a revolt of the citizens. We have the right to bear arms and remove our government by force if we so choose. That scares them.
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The Democrat led media (ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN and the multitudes of blogs sties)will continue down the path of anything negative they can dream up.
They seem to still want to grab hold of obstruction. Seems to me, to obstruct there must be a crime. There was no crime.
It was concluded that the Russians attempted to impact the election. Let us not forget who the President was at the time this took place. Why didn't that administration stop it?
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As I've said all along, Trump didn't collude, and while he didn't obstruct it was not for a lack of trying.
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All documents requested were supplied, unfettered access to staff and no executive privilege claims made, yep that's obstruction if I ever saw it.
Let's compare and contrast to Hillary's email server. Thirty-one thousand emails deleted, server wiped cleaned and devices smashed.
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All documents requested were supplied, unfettered access to staff and no executive privilege claims made, yep that's obstruction if I ever saw it.
Let's compare and contrast to Hillary's email server. Thirty-one thousand emails deleted, server wiped cleaned and devices smashed.
Yet the media forgot all about that a long time ago. Meanwhile for the last two and a half years they've been attempting a Coup over an utter HOAX abut Russian collusion which they and the Democrats were complicit in fabrication.
Just about every policy Trump has put in place has hurt Russia and Putin, especially his Energy and Economic policies. Why would he do that if he was in bed with Putin?
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As I've said all along, Trump didn't collude, and while he didn't obstruct it was not for a lack of trying.
So let me get this straight. Trump did not collude with Russia. He try to obstruct the investigation into something he did not do?
Make total sense to me ;D
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mueller did not do the Democrats any favors here. If he had shut it entirely, they would have wailed and gnashed their teeth, but they would have moved on. Now, they are going to focus even more intently on “obstruction, but there is nothing they can do except pursue a futile attempt at impeachment. Unless they take control of 67% of the Senate, it is just wasted energy.
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So let me get this straight. Trump did not collude with Russia. He try to obstruct the investigation into something he did not do?
Make total sense to me ;D
He tried like crazy to obstruct Mueller multiple times, but his minions wouldn't carry out his orders for fear of violating the law.
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He tried like crazy to obstruct Mueller multiple times, but his minions wouldn't carry out his orders for fear of violating the law.
At least he didn't blatantly destroy evidence.
Attempting to obstruct justice is one thing.
Thinking and talking about it, but NOT doing it is something else.
Think about it: worst case, he tried to get his staff to obstruct, they refused, everyone cooperated and there was still no evidence of an underlying crime.
And even if he did mount an attempt to obstruct justice, what justice was he obstructing? Only a fool would allow such serious charges against him to go unchallenged.
I usually get frustrated when I listen to the MSM talking heads try to distort reality. But this time, I just find myself laughing at them as they make fools of themselves.
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He tried like crazy to obstruct Mueller multiple times, but his minions wouldn't carry out his orders for fear of violating the law.
Have you actually read the report? Or are you just relying on the CNN version?
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As I've said all along, Trump didn't collude, and while he didn't obstruct it was not for a lack of trying.
There are times that I am certain that you are a twelve year old girl, suffering from severe acne, trying desperately to find someone who will give you some attention.
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He tried like crazy to obstruct Mueller multiple times, but his minions wouldn't carry out his orders for fear of violating the law.
Again if there was no collusion what justice did he obstruct?
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Again if there was no collusion what justice did he obstruct?
Well, technically it is illegal to obstruct an investigation, even if there is no basis to the actual charge.
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And now Lieawatha is calling for inpeachment.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/04/19/politics/elizabeth-warren-donald-trump-impeachment-proceedings/index.html
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And now Lieawatha is calling for inpeachment.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/04/19/politics/elizabeth-warren-donald-trump-impeachment-proceedings/index.html
So I guess she read the report in Cherokee because it read differently to me.
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He tried like crazy to obstruct Mueller multiple times, but his minions wouldn't carry out his orders for fear of violating the law.
You are really an imbecile. Let's prove that.
First of all, the White House, under direction of the President, gave the Mueller investigation unfettered access. They could interview anyone they like, and the WH provided 1.5 million pages of documents. That's transparency.
Second, the President could have claimed Executive Privilege and added more redactions to the report. Legally he had the right, but he chose not to. Again, transparency.
Third, the Mueller report is biased, big time. It reeks of bias. So take supposed referred conversations with a grain of salt. Oh, and they still don't rise to obstruction even with the implied bias.
Now, you and CNN claim the President ordered his attorney and "minions" to obstruct justice. It's even claimed the President ordered his attorney to fire Mueller. Now, want to know how bullshit that statement is? The President's attorney doesn't have the authority to fire anyone in the executive branch. Period.
If the President wanted Mueller fired, all he would have to do is call in his secretary, dictate a memo saying "your fired!" and sign it. Done deal. And perfectly legal under the law.
But he didn't, and that's what is important to remember. Yes, the President ranted during meetings with his attorney and showed his frustration, anyone being attacked legally would feel that way. And the President knew it was all a hoax, and that it would impede his Presidency.
As far as others supposedly not carrying out his orders? Again, the President doesn't need them to do it for him, he is fully capable of doing it himself.
But he didn't.
So the "obstruction" is yet another delusion.
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Again, the President doesn't need them to do it for him, he is fully capable of doing it himself.
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It seems like EVERY liberal (communist) including our resident red, have smoothly changed to a brand new lie. The level of hypocrisy among democrats (communists) is simply breathtaking.
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If Jeff Session had fired Mueller, that would have been a legal act. How can Trump asking that Sessions do it become an illegal act?
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It seems like EVERY liberal (communist) including our resident red, have smoothly changed to a brand new lie. The level of hypocrisy among democrats (communists) is simply breathtaking.
When it concerns the Mango Mussolini, lies are their centerpiece.
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When it concerns the Mango Mussolini, lies are their centerpiece.
I do wonder how Obama would have done had he been subjected to two years of intense investigation by a partisan prosecutor with unlimited power and an unlimited budget. I suspect that we would have found more than a few lies and laws broken.
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I do wonder how Obama would have done had he been subjected to two years of intense investigation by a partisan prosecutor with unlimited power and an unlimited budget. I suspect that we would have found more than a few lies and laws broken.
Notice how no one in the MSM questioned the Mocha Messiah’s sealed college transcripts along with all of his other records that were sealed.
And we didn’t even see congress demanding special prosecutors for the various scandals BHO was involved in. Hell, both congress (Republican) and the msm ran interference for him.
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Notice how no one in the MSM questioned the Mocha Messiah’s sealed college transcripts along with all of his other records that were sealed.
And we didn’t even see congress demanding special prosecutors for the various scandals BHO was involved in. Hell, both congress (Republican) and the msm ran interference for him.
The Republicans were afraid to criticize Obama because the Media and Democrats would cry RACISM if they did. Just like Hillary and the Media cried SEXISM if she were criticized. The only people you can criticize are White Males, Republican White Males.
The opposite is true of Trump. Even people in his own Party, like Mitt Romney are harshly critical of him. I used to like Romney, a bit, now I despise him.
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The Republicans were afraid to criticize Obama because the Media and Democrats would cry RACISM if they did. Just like Hillary and the Media cried SEXISM if she were criticized. The only people you can criticize are White Males, Republican White Males.
The opposite is true of Trump. Even people in his own Party, like Mitt Romney are harshly critical of him. I used to like Romney, a bit, now I despise him.
Romney is spineless and is the very definition of RINO. He filled the vacuum in the senate when McCain left.
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Romney is spineless and is the very definition of RINO. He filled the vacuum in the senate when McCain left.
At this point he is below vermin to me. Yes, another McCain. Seems to be these RINO's love to fill that niche. You don't see Democrats openly criticizing their leadership or previously Obama. All lock step like good little party apparatchiks.
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Notice how no one in the MSM questioned the Mocha Messiah’s sealed college transcripts along with all of his other records that were sealed.
And we didn’t even see congress demanding special prosecutors for the various scandals BHO was involved in. Hell, both congress (Republican) and the msm ran interference for him.
If the Dems proceed with their effort to force Presidents to release tax returns, the R's should attach a rider that includes college transcripts. Just to send a message. Then vote it down.
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I want congress to release the files of all the people who received payments from the “slush fund” set up to pay off victims of sexual harassment. That was paid for by our tax dollars. I want to know which congressmen were accused.
We the taxpayers have a right to that information.
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The Republicans were afraid to criticize Obama...
Where were you for 8 years? I heard almost nothing but criticism.
Well, unless you were talking about Congress, then I think they did criticize, but not loudly because it was expected that members of Congress would not personally attack the president. I'm sure we all remember the fallout when a single person said the president lied. That tradition of restraint is clearly over.