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Title: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 04, 2019, 10:18:49 AM
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Hillary Clinton Bashes Donald Trump's July 4th Military Extravaganza

Amy Russo
HuffPostJuly 4, 2019

Hillary Clinton Bashes Donald Trump's July 4th Military Extravaganza

Hillary Clinton is speaking out against President Donald Trump’s flashy display of military might for the Fourth of July, adding her voice to widespread criticisms of the event.
“We need a strong national defense, but a president shouldn’t need it next to him in a parade to show his patriotism,” she wrote Thursday in a tweet.

Trump has been accused of hijacking this year’s festivities in Washington, D.C., where he plans to showcase tanks and fighter jets for his “Salute to America” at the Lincoln Memorial.

A U.S. Army spokesperson told viewers of local CBS affiliate WUSA-TV not to panic as tanks began moving into the streets earlier this week.

The spectacle has also prompted the closure of the city’s airspace for the first time in four years, affecting almost 100 scheduled flights, according to CNN.

The Pentagon appears to be attempting to avoid bad press related to the event. It reportedly distributed instruction cards to troops, reminding them to be careful when speaking to reporters and coaching them to express pride in their jobs and their tanks.

This article originally appeared on HuffPost.

My, my, all the leftist are just peeing themselves falsely claiming Trump is making the 4th of July PARTISAN.  I love it. They just hate America don't they.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/hillary-clinton-criticizes-donald-trump-july-fourth-165808152.html

And more!

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The Democrat Party has been moving noticeably farther to the left, and President Trump’s pro-America policies and “Salute to America” celebration have driven many over the edge. There are countless examples of Hollywood figures, 2020 Democrats, media outlets, and businesses revealing their true colors.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/04/round-up-democrats-reveal-they-dislike-celebrating-america-after-all/



Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 04, 2019, 10:51:42 AM
Their hatred is boiling over. 

It’s amusing.  Trump knows how to manipulate them, and how to make them show everyone exactly who and what they are. 
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 04, 2019, 11:23:53 AM
Their hatred is boiling over. 

It’s amusing.  Trump knows how to manipulate them, and how to make them show everyone exactly who and what they are.

So now they are all on record for wanting Reparations for LGBT, Free healthcare and college for ILLEGAL aliens, they think the U.S. flag is RACIST, and the 4th of July isn't worthy of celebration on a grand scale.  Total anti American drivel.  No wonder the Lib/Progs can't take it. 
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Old Crow on July 04, 2019, 04:00:42 PM
Democrats in a 4th of July parade is like KKK at a Black Pride Celebration
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Number7 on July 04, 2019, 04:01:28 PM
Democrats in a 4th of July parade is like KKK at a Black Pride Celebration

Holy Cow

That is worth repeating.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Number7 on July 04, 2019, 04:02:14 PM
Democrats in a 4th of July parade is like KKK at a Black Pride Celebration

...or a pregnant hooker at a Baptist Ladies Luncheon.

...or a progressive telling the truth about anything President Trump accomplishes.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: nddons on July 04, 2019, 05:17:36 PM
Their hatred is boiling over. 

It’s amusing.  Trump knows how to manipulate them, and how to make them show everyone exactly who and what they are.
This is pure Trump artistry.  He is living in their heads 24/7/365 rent free, and knew that this would yet again push them over the edge, and demonstrate to the nation just how shallow and petulant they are.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Number7 on July 04, 2019, 05:35:42 PM
This is pure Trump artistry.  He is living in their heads 24/7/365 rent free, and knew that this would yet again push them over the edge, and demonstrate to the nation just how shallow and petulant they are.

The funny thing is that the rabid, hate-America-first democrats are forcing less bi-polar democrats to choose insanity and violent hate, over rational thought, real facts and sane behavior.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 04, 2019, 05:55:17 PM
Recently I was talking to a family friend. This gentleman is retired and a life long democrat (Kennedy Democrat, not the progressive leftist type).

 He told me he just can't bring himself to support what the party has become.

 He doesn't care for Trump as a person, but he does like what he has done for the country. 

 This guy doesn't publicly give his opinion, minds his own business type.  Why is this important?  Here's just another example of a walk away.  With the progressive leftist going berserk daily, look for more of these to quietly walk away.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: nddons on July 04, 2019, 06:45:03 PM
Trump’s speech was utterly perfect.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Number7 on July 04, 2019, 07:01:38 PM
There are a lot of people walking away from the lunatic left that have hijacked the democrat party and turned it into homosexual orgy of ignorance, violence and hate.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Rush on July 05, 2019, 04:59:58 AM
There are a lot of people walking away from the lunatic left that have hijacked the democrat party and turned it into homosexual orgy of ignorance, violence and hate.

That’s an insult to homosexuals. And orgies for that matter...  ;D
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 05, 2019, 07:23:56 AM
Trump nailed it.  Non-political, honored our military that actually won our Independence and acknowledge great Americans that overcame some of our challenges, and helped to create a great country.  Perfect!
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on July 05, 2019, 07:25:10 AM
Recently I was talking to a family friend. This gentleman is retired and a life long democrat (Kennedy Democrat, not the progressive leftist type).

 He told me he just can't bring himself to support what the party has become.

 He doesn't care for Trump as a person, but he does like what he has done for the country. 

 This guy doesn't publicly give his opinion, minds his own business type.  Why is this important?  Here's just another example of a walk away.  With the progressive leftist going berserk daily, look for more of these to quietly walk away.
Wednesday I wore my WalkAway shirt to a local coffee shop. People looked, and looked again, but no one said anything. Next up is our local Starbucks, a liberal bastion that reeks of leftism. I have two friends who say they’ll flank me.

I usually don’t like to poke people and am peace loving, but in the matter of defending my great country, our beautiful, irreplaceable republic, from the unhinged left, I decided that silence won’t move the needle.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 06, 2019, 06:55:52 AM
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Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: azure on July 08, 2019, 12:14:55 PM
Recently I was talking to a family friend. This gentleman is retired and a life long democrat (Kennedy Democrat, not the progressive leftist type).

 He told me he just can't bring himself to support what the party has become.

 He doesn't care for Trump as a person, but he does like what he has done for the country. 

 This guy doesn't publicly give his opinion, minds his own business type.  Why is this important?  Here's just another example of a walk away.  With the progressive leftist going berserk daily, look for more of these to quietly walk away.

Pretty much where I am, personally. There are really no Dems in the running that I could even think of voting for, other than (possibly) Biden, and his age is a big negative, not to mention that he has been moving leftward toward looney-land. Not sure where he will come down in the end on the issues.

But walking away from the Dems and voting for Trump are two different things... liking some of what he's done for this country doesn't necessarily outweigh everything else. Most importantly, I still have reservations about some of his foreign policy tactics. Maybe the MSM has slanted the picture, but it seems that he doesn't appreciate the role our alliances have played in keeping the world from sliding into WW3.

Now the 4th of July parade? No criticism from me on that, I thought it was perfect - except for the bit about airports during the Revolutionary War. Ummm.... wtf was he thinking?
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: NippleBoy on July 08, 2019, 02:00:35 PM
Most importantly, I still have reservations about some of his foreign policy tactics. Maybe the MSM has slanted the picture, but it seems that he doesn't appreciate the role our alliances have played in keeping the world from sliding into WW3.

I suspect he has some reservations about their tactics. From what I can gather, he's pretty much telling them to step up to the plate and stop letting the US handle everything.

4th of July parade?? Meh.. I would have went if I was still living in the area.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: nddons on July 08, 2019, 02:24:02 PM
Pretty much where I am, personally. There are really no Dems in the running that I could even think of voting for, other than (possibly) Biden, and his age is a big negative, not to mention that he has been moving leftward toward looney-land. Not sure where he will come down in the end on the issues.

But walking away from the Dems and voting for Trump are two different things... liking some of what he's done for this country doesn't necessarily outweigh everything else. Most importantly, I still have reservations about some of his foreign policy tactics. Maybe the MSM has slanted the picture, but it seems that he doesn't appreciate the role our alliances have played in keeping the world from sliding into WW3.

Now the 4th of July parade? No criticism from me on that, I thought it was perfect - except for the bit about airports during the Revolutionary War. Ummm.... wtf was he thinking?
Welcome back!  It’s been a while, hasn’t it? 

I believe there’s no “maybe” about the MSM slanting the picture regarding foreign policy and our allies. In the course of 29 months, the MSM has gone from Trump starting WWIII with North Korea to criticizing him for “elevating” the squatty dictator by a handshake and stepping into NK. He can’t win either way.

Similarly with what our “allies” think about us. I guarantee that most of our allies and especially their electorate would like to have a weak and emasculated, bowing and apologizing United States, even though we protect their asses 24/7/365.

Nationalism, or pride in the USA, is now a bad thing according to the MSM.

And Trump has to fight all of it, every single minute of every single day.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on July 08, 2019, 05:49:36 PM
Azure, I was stuck in the dentist’s chair this morning, staring up at a news channel that was apparently trying to seriously talk about the Dem candidates and showing clips of interviews with them. They are all extremely lightweight and unbelievably out of touch with most Americans, and are focusing entirely on courting the “victim” portion of the base. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that they see this rich land of opportunity, which much of the world would love to live in, as an oppressor of its citizens. Not buying it. Can’t imagine voting for any of them, nor how anyone who is reasonably intelligent could.

Levy fines on citizens for not buying health care but give it free to illegals? Open borders? And how many programs for “people of color” are going to accomplish what said people really have to do themselves? It’s vote farming. What kind of American doesn’t love this country and feel some pride in the tenets it was founded upon and the success it has realized? A dead-souled liberal. And what kind of civilization kills its young?

I don’t have all the answers but the Dem candidates look to me like Obama Redux. Fawning voters will see what they want to see instead of the dead-souled person standing there bleating virtue signals.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Rush on July 08, 2019, 06:00:41 PM
Can’t imagine voting for any of them, nor how anyone who is reasonably intelligent could.



This could be the problem.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Number7 on July 08, 2019, 06:22:53 PM
Liberalism IS a religion of dead souls slaughtering children, denying people access and opportunity based on skin color and demanding that everyone ignores the truth in favor of their lies.

The violent hateful, deceitful and diseased bullies of the liberal religion have far more in common with medieval torturers than modern thinkers. They HATE freedom in any form because free people tend to think for themselves. Just like dogmatic religious fanatics, insane on power and control, liberals demand absolute fealty of thought and word. No personal opinion, conviction, decision making is allowed.

 Freedom of thought, speech, association, elections and fire arm ownership threatens their power, because liberalism is a religion utter failure. They can’t hang on to power in a free society, so they destroy freedom and isolate and destroy anyone that succeeds outside of their bubble of idiocy.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 09, 2019, 05:14:05 AM
Azure, I was stuck in the dentist’s chair this morning, staring up at a news channel that was apparently trying to seriously talk about the Dem candidates and showing clips of interviews with them. They are all extremely lightweight and unbelievably out of touch with most Americans, and are focusing entirely on courting the “victim” portion of the base. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that they see this rich land of opportunity, which much of the world would love to live in, as an oppressor of its citizens. Not buying it. Can’t imagine voting for any of them, nor how anyone who is reasonably intelligent could.

Levy fines on citizens for not buying health care but give it free to illegals? Open borders? And how many programs for “people of color” are going to accomplish what said people really have to do themselves? It’s vote farming. What kind of American doesn’t love this country and feel some pride in the tenets it was founded upon and the success it has realized? A dead-souled liberal. And what kind of civilization kills its young?

I don’t have all the answers but the Dem candidates look to me like Obama Redux. Fawning voters will see what they want to see instead of the dead-souled person standing there bleating virtue signals.

Exactly what I think Becky.  They are WORSE than Obama, and I didn't think that could be possible.  At least Obama sold out, became concerned only with is personal wealth and just made campaign speeches, at Dem fundraisers and played golf the remainder of his term (after Obamacare got passed).

Free Healthcare, and Free College for ILLEGAL ALIENS?  Next they will offer Basic Universal Income to Illegals.  Watch.  Also, they want Amnesty.  So, this with the incentives, is the equivalent of OPEN BORDERS.  There is no penalty for coming here, and actually incentives to come here. 

Also now, not only do they want Reparations for Blacks, but now Reparations for LGBT.  Next will be for Women due to their constant crowing about "Income Inequality".  More VICTIMHOOD.  Who is going to pay for this stuff?  The "RICH".  No, you an me will pay.  They already have said they are for HIGHER TAXES.

Man Made Climate Change?  They want a Carbon Tax, and other fees, taxes, and surcharges on fossil fuel to dissuade people from using them, and lessen the demand for gasoline, oil, natural gas, etc.  Obama liked when gasoline was over $4.00 during his term as he said people would use less.  GMAFB?  If you want to KILL an economy, this is the way to do it.

The DNC and these Dem candidates are stark raving MAD.  (rant over)
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Rush on July 09, 2019, 06:18:58 AM
Exactly what I think Becky.  They are WORSE than Obama, and I didn't think that could be possible.  At least Obama sold out, became concerned only with is personal wealth and just made campaign speeches, at Dem fundraisers and played golf the remainder of his term (after Obamacare got passed).

Free Healthcare, and Free College for ILLEGAL ALIENS?  Next they will offer Basic Universal Income to Illegals.  Watch.  Also, they want Amnesty.  So, this with the incentives, is the equivalent of OPEN BORDERS.  There is no penalty for coming here, and actually incentives to come here. 

Also now, not only do they want Reparations for Blacks, but now Reparations for LGBT.  Next will be for Women due to their constant crowing about "Income Inequality".  More VICTIMHOOD.  Who is going to pay for this stuff?  The "RICH".  No, you an me will pay.  They already have said they are for HIGHER TAXES.

Man Made Climate Change?  They want a Carbon Tax, and other fees, taxes, and surcharges on fossil fuel to dissuade people from using them, and lessen the demand for gasoline, oil, natural gas, etc.  Obama liked when gasoline was over $4.00 during his term as he said people would use less.  GMAFB?  If you want to KILL an economy, this is the way to do it.

The DNC and these Dem candidates are stark raving MAD.  (rant over)

Many times you or someone else say something that I want to “like” but I don’t because like isn’t really what I mean. I mean it’s so true, and I sure don’t like it. But well stated.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 09, 2019, 06:37:30 AM
Many times you or someone else say something that I want to “like” but I don’t because like isn’t really what I mean. I mean it’s so true, and I sure don’t like it. But well stated.

I liked your post.  :)

Thanks.  I try not to go on such long rants, but the current state of the DNC, the Democrat candidates, and their treatment by 95%+ of the Media is disgusting.  If any of these clowns get elected we are in for extremely bad times in the U.S. 

The Media and all the Dems said that Trump getting elected would cause an entire meltdown of everything including the economy and markets.  How's that worked out for them?
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: nddons on July 09, 2019, 09:32:59 AM

Man Made Climate Change?  They want a Carbon Tax, and other fees, taxes, and surcharges on fossil fuel to dissuade people from using them, and lessen the demand for gasoline, oil, natural gas, etc.  Obama liked when gasoline was over $4.00 during his term as he said people would use less.  GMAFB?  If you want to KILL an economy, this is the way to do it.

The DNC and these Dem candidates are stark raving MAD.  (rant over)
I’ve got to disagree with you on your second sentence. These people don’t give two shits about lessening demand for fossil fuels.

No, their MMCC religion is solely focused on wealth transfer from the top 50% to the bottom 50% in any way possible, both in the US and globally. A Carbon Tax won’t do shit to lessen demand, but it will severely damage our economy, creating more dependents on the government, which in turn will require more taxes from the top 50%, which will further their chokehold on power at all costs.

Want proof?  How much of AOC’s Green New Deal actually went to “fix” climate change vs social programs.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 09, 2019, 01:30:39 PM
I’ve got to disagree with you on your second sentence. These people don’t give two shits about lessening demand for fossil fuels.

No, their MMCC religion is solely focused on wealth transfer from the top 50% to the bottom 50% in any way possible, both in the US and globally. A Carbon Tax won’t do shit to lessen demand, but it will severely damage our economy, creating more dependents on the government, which in turn will require more taxes from the top 50%, which will further their chokehold on power at all costs.

Want proof?  How much of AOC’s Green New Deal actually went to “fix” climate change vs social programs.

I think people that have little to no disposal income will have to buy less gasoline, and be more frugal with other energy to heat and cool their apartments, or homes, etc.  Either that or stop buying food.  However, business and industry and other required government services, will have to buy energy, just pay more.  Although, of course the economy will slow which will then reduce demand for energy, as their will be much less demand for products and services.

Of course the rich/elite will be able to afford as much energy as they want  Agree on the motives of the Man Made Climate Change religious zealots and Dem politicians.  Yes, the money won't "fix" anything, but will do what you say.  Another slush find to buy votes and create more dependency. 

They can't even tell us what percentage is Man's fault, and what percentage is nature, let alone how the money will be used to "fix" climate change. 
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Old Crow on July 09, 2019, 05:26:58 PM
I’ve got to disagree with you on your second sentence. These people don’t give two shits about lessening demand for fossil fuels.

No, their MMCC religion is solely focused on wealth transfer from the top 50% to the bottom 50% in any way possible, both in the US and globally.
My opinion is that the real reason behind these taxes and fines is for transfer of wealth to the government so the politicians can decide what will buy the most votes for their party in the next election.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Little Joe on July 09, 2019, 05:48:45 PM
My opinion is that the real reason behind these taxes and fines is for transfer of wealth to the government so the politicians can decide what will buy the most votes for their party in the next election.
I agree.  The politicians on the left don't care about transferring the wealth from the rich to the poor.  They just care about grabbing enough money to buy votes.  If they give them enough free stuff, then they'll have them niggers voting democrat for the next 100 years.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: texasag93 on July 09, 2019, 06:16:28 PM
I agree.  The politicians on the left don't care about transferring the wealth from the rich to the poor.  They just care about grabbing enough money to buy votes.  If they give them enough free stuff, then they'll have them niggers voting democrat for the next 100 years.

Shame on you for quoting a Democrat president. 
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Old Crow on July 09, 2019, 07:24:54 PM
If they give them enough free stuff, then they'll have them niggers voting democrat for the next 100 years.
Didn't LBJ say something like that when he began the 'Great Society'?
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Mase on July 09, 2019, 07:28:04 PM
Didn't LBJ say something like that when he began the 'Great Society'?

He said exactly that.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: azure on July 10, 2019, 05:27:50 PM
Welcome back!  It’s been a while, hasn’t it? 

Thanks! It's been about 3 weeks I think. I've been trying to get a paper finished up and submitted. Then today I had to pick up the Branded Bird from annual, and almost had to leave it again because the gear wouldn't retract. On my urging they focused on checking and cleaning up the squat switch wire, and it finally worked.

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I believe there’s no “maybe” about the MSM slanting the picture regarding foreign policy and our allies. In the course of 29 months, the MSM has gone from Trump starting WWIII with North Korea to criticizing him for “elevating” the squatty dictator by a handshake and stepping into NK. He can’t win either way.

The question I have there is, how does Kim see the situation and is that perception to our advantage or does it hurt us? I'm concerned that with the way Trump treats him, Kim may view Trump as an easy mark. Not that that perception would be correct, far from it... but if he does, I don't see how it really helps us. I have similar reservations about how he treats Putin.

But on the way the MSM spins things - yeah, definitely. Despite people like Biden warning that NATO will "cease to exist" if Trump gets re-elected, I can't find any solid evidence that he ever made any moves in the direction of dissolving the alliance. It's more political hyperbole - something I really don't appreciate from either side.

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Similarly with what our “allies” think about us. I guarantee that most of our allies and especially their electorate would like to have a weak and emasculated, bowing and apologizing United States, even though we protect their asses 24/7/365.

What is your basis for saying that? I think that's pretty extreme. I'm sure they don't appreciate the pressure to contribute more, and Trump is absolutely right to pressure them. But since we do protect their asses, having a strong US is in their interest too.

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Nationalism, or pride in the USA, is now a bad thing according to the MSM.

I think that is not so much true today, though it once was - I mean, decades ago, in the '70s, in the wake of Vietnam and to a lesser extent, in the '80s. The World Cup champions were just given a ticker-tape parade in NYC... if that's not nationalistic pride, I don't know what is. And the story of the Apollo program still elicits a huge amount of pride in what this country was able to accomplish - PBS has a 6 hour documentary about it this week (I DVR'd it but still haven't had a chance to watch it.)
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: azure on July 10, 2019, 05:34:47 PM
Azure, I was stuck in the dentist’s chair this morning, staring up at a news channel that was apparently trying to seriously talk about the Dem candidates and showing clips of interviews with them. They are all extremely lightweight and unbelievably out of touch with most Americans, and are focusing entirely on courting the “victim” portion of the base. It’s becoming increasingly obvious that they see this rich land of opportunity, which much of the world would love to live in, as an oppressor of its citizens. Not buying it. Can’t imagine voting for any of them, nor how anyone who is reasonably intelligent could.

Levy fines on citizens for not buying health care but give it free to illegals? Open borders? And how many programs for “people of color” are going to accomplish what said people really have to do themselves? It’s vote farming. What kind of American doesn’t love this country and feel some pride in the tenets it was founded upon and the success it has realized? A dead-souled liberal. And what kind of civilization kills its young?

I don’t have all the answers but the Dem candidates look to me like Obama Redux. Fawning voters will see what they want to see instead of the dead-souled person standing there bleating virtue signals.

I agree, Becky. I call it populism. Everyone decries populism as a right-wing phenomenon but there is populism on the left and it's equally unrealistic and downright dangerous. The program that scares me the most is Medicare For All. Heck, the current Medicare system is forecast to become insolvent in 7 years. How do they expect to be able to expand it to cover everyone? Do they think people are going to stand to pay the level of taxes it would take to actually pay for such a thing?

If the current crop of Democrats has their way, they will turn this country not into Norway... but Greece.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 11, 2019, 05:22:02 AM
The World Cup champions were just given a ticker-tape parade in NYC... if that's not nationalistic pride, I don't know what is.
You may or may not have noticed that the celebration was turned into a huge political event by DeBlasio and Rapinoe.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 11, 2019, 05:28:11 AM
You may or may not have noticed that the celebration was turned into a huge political event by DeBlasio and Rapinoe.

Yes, it was not nationalistic pride it was a Female, LGBT, and an anti Trump rally.  Anything but patriotic.  Anything but "INCLUSIVE".  A propaganda parade for the LEFT ONLY. 

De Blasio (Warren Wilhelm) got a four for one.  They could consider this the Gay Pride (LGBT Pride) parade, Women's "rights" parade, and Democrat parade, as well as the soccer team parade. 
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 11, 2019, 05:30:44 AM
You may or may not have noticed that the celebration was turned into a huge political event by DeBlasio and Rapinoe.

 And had Rapinoe not been outspoken about the President, I doubt seriously DeBlasio would have bothered with the parade.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: jb1842 on July 11, 2019, 06:19:23 AM
You may or may not have noticed that the celebration was turned into a huge political event by DeBlasio and Rapinoe.

I don't have twitter and don't know how to post videos from there, but if there are some videos of the players that remind me of school in summer....they have no class.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: azure on July 11, 2019, 06:49:39 AM
Yes, it was not nationalistic pride it was a Female, LGBT, and an anti Trump rally.  Anything but patriotic.  Anything but "INCLUSIVE".  A propaganda parade for the LEFT ONLY. 

De Blasio (Warren Wilhelm) got a four for one.  They could consider this the Gay Pride (LGBT Pride) parade, Women's "rights" parade, and Democrat parade, as well as the soccer team parade.

LGBT? I must be missing something. I admit, Rapinoe sent my gaydar soaring but I didn't see anything explicit about it in the clips that were shown, at least on PBS. From where I stand, more power to her if she is, and is out about it.

Sure there were political overtones - how could there not be? Everything is politicized these days. But it was also a big celebration of the fact that not just women, but AMERICAN women, who bested the rest of the world in a sport that's a much bigger thing everywhere else compared to here.

Seems to me this is a glass half empty, half full thing. I prefer to see the glass half full.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 11, 2019, 06:56:37 AM
LGBT? I must be missing something. I admit, Rapinoe sent my gaydar soaring but I didn't see anything explicit about it in the clips that were shown, at least on PBS. From where I stand, more power to her if she is, and is out about it.

Sure there were political overtones - how could there not be? Everything is politicized these days. But it was also a big celebration of the fact that not just women, but AMERICAN women, who bested the rest of the world in a sport that's a much bigger thing everywhere else compared to here.

Seems to me this is a glass half empty, half full thing. I prefer to see the glass half full.

Having Rapinoe as essentially the centerpiece of the event made it LGBT.  She characterizes herself as an LGBT activist first and foremost.  Maybe do some research into her, and her antics. 

I am tired of the over promotion of both Women and LGBT by the Media, and Entertainment.  It has become very old, tedious and tiresome. 
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 11, 2019, 07:08:41 AM
LGBT? I must be missing something. I admit, Rapinoe sent my gaydar soaring but I didn't see anything explicit about it in the clips that were shown, at least on PBS. From where I stand, more power to her if she is, and is out about it.

Sure there were political overtones - how could there not be? Everything is politicized these days. But it was also a big celebration of the fact that not just women, but AMERICAN women, who bested the rest of the world in a sport that's a much bigger thing everywhere else compared to here.

Seems to me this is a glass half empty, half full thing. I prefer to see the glass half full.

 You've obviously missed the many interviews with Ms Rapinoe in the MSM, such as CNN.   Right now she is the darling of the leftist as she has been bashing the President.  Giddy MSNBC host are even fantasizing about putting her into political office or who she will endorse for president.

 https://nypost.com/2019/05/14/megan-rapinoe-my-national-anthem-protests-are-an-f-you-to-trump-administration/

https://www.tmz.com/2019/06/25/megan-rapinoe-white-house-trump-team-usa-soccer/

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/07/10/megan_rapinoe_to_trump_make_america_great_again_is_an_exclusionary_message.html

https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ny-megan-rapinoe-coming-out-anderson-cooper-20190710-qz7vvctpazembbkn5c2jxwpezy-story.html

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2019/07/10/adoring-maddow-jokes-rapinoe-about-running-president

https://www.independentsentinel.com/ticker-tape-parade-became-the-rapinoe-parade/

https://100percentfedup.com/video-us-soccers-rapinoe-puts-on-cocky-protests-during-victory-celebrations-i-deserve-this/

And this article sums up what Rapinoe is really all about:  https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/07/10/limbaugh-rapinoe-wants-a-kaepernick-deal-with-nike-the-lgbtq-angle/

And here is an example of what a class act Rapinoe is: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/hide-your-kids-hide-your-wives-we-got-the-key-to-the-motherfing-city-trashy-us-womens-world-cup-soccer-champs-utter-profanities-all-during-nyc-parade/
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 11, 2019, 07:09:52 AM
Having Rapinoe as essentially the centerpiece of the event made it LGBT.  She characterizes herself as an LGBT activist first and foremost.  Maybe do some research into her, and her antics. 

I am tired of the over promotion of both Women and LGBT by the Media, and Entertainment.  It has become very old, tedious and tiresome.

 Here's what she is ultimately angling for : https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/07/10/limbaugh-rapinoe-wants-a-kaepernick-deal-with-nike-the-lgbtq-angle/
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 11, 2019, 07:17:28 AM
Here's what she is ultimately angling for : https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/07/10/limbaugh-rapinoe-wants-a-kaepernick-deal-with-nike-the-lgbtq-angle/

I have been saying that this is all about fame, greed, money and a Nike contract, or similar since she started protesting and speaking before, during and after SPORTING EVENTS.  She wants to be the Female, LGBT KAEPERNICK.  It is plainly obvious.  The Media wants the same thing.  They are complicit, and irresponsibly so. 
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Number7 on July 11, 2019, 07:31:19 AM
Everything has to be about inclusion, diversity and homosexual acceptance above all things. Even the July Fourth Boston Pops program had to have a young, black, lesbian “activist” who lectured us about civility and inclusion.

The dopey announcer went so far as to proclaim that July fourth is all about diversity and immigration!

Too bad the left is populated with people who couldn’t practice inclusion and acceptance if their lives depended on it, then backed up by people who think the queer soccer, American hater is some kind of positive role model. It must be comforting to go thru life pretending that the facts don’t exist so that one can live in their comfortable bubble of bullshit and fascism.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Rush on July 11, 2019, 10:02:31 AM
I hate the way the left has claimed the gay/trans cause. Being gay or transgender has absolutely nothing to do with politics or shouldn’t. If you are gay or trans you still benefit from capitalism, low taxes, a good strong economy, trade policies that benefit America, low unemployment and the right to bear arms to defend yourself against bigoted violent homophobes who are NOT one and the same with conservatives.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Number7 on July 11, 2019, 10:51:53 AM
And had Rapinoe not been outspoken about the President, I doubt seriously DeBlasio would have bothered with the parade.

The disgusting attention whore managed to drive away HALF of the expected viewers based on viewership in other years.

Way to go stupid people!!!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/nice-work-rapinoe-us-soccer-final-viewership-down-by-almost-half-thanks-to-trump-bashing-anthem-protesting-national-team/
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 11, 2019, 11:12:25 AM
I hate the way the left has claimed the gay/trans cause. Being gay or transgender has absolutely nothing to do with politics or shouldn’t. If you are gay or trans you still benefit from capitalism, low taxes, a good strong economy, trade policies that benefit America, low unemployment and the right to bear arms to defend yourself against bigoted violent homophobes who are NOT one and the same with conservatives.

 The leftist are all about victims.  They need victims.  Just look at how Rapinoe is painting herself as the victim standing up to the President.

 Yet, the President has never spoken out against gays/trans/whatever.  In fact, before becoming President he was admired by the gay/trans/whatever community because of his support, and his companies hiring gays/trans/whatever.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 11, 2019, 11:35:09 AM
The disgusting attention whore managed to drive away HALF of the expected viewers based on viewership in other years.

Way to go stupid people!!!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/nice-work-rapinoe-us-soccer-final-viewership-down-by-almost-half-thanks-to-trump-bashing-anthem-protesting-national-team/

I was one of them.  I'm not a soccer fan, but I was going to at least watch a little here and there.  As soon as she protested during the anthem, then started spouting off, and made herself the centerpiece, I decided not to watch.

Her Trump and America hate is manufactured to get fame and fortune.  Trump has done nothing against the LGBT community, he just doesn't pander to them like Obama did, which was very condescending. 
Title: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: nddons on July 11, 2019, 11:51:53 AM
The disgusting attention whore managed to drive away HALF of the expected viewers based on viewership in other years.

Way to go stupid people!!!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/nice-work-rapinoe-us-soccer-final-viewership-down-by-almost-half-thanks-to-trump-bashing-anthem-protesting-national-team/
Interesting. Kind of cuts into the “equal pay” canard that Rubino and company are pursuing, doesn’t it?

Did no one tell them that NFL suffered the same fate when an anti-American has-been QB pulled the same shit?

Kapernick began to sit down during the 2016 pre-season.

According to Business Insider, NFL average viewership by year in millions:

2014:  17.6
2015:  17.9
2016:  16.5
2017:  14.8

Oops. A 17% decline over two years. Can’t find the data for 2018 but I know I’m out.

EDIT:  found 2018:  15.8, so a little rebound, but still 11% down over 2015.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: azure on July 11, 2019, 12:08:04 PM
I hate the way the left has claimed the gay/trans cause. Being gay or transgender has absolutely nothing to do with politics or shouldn’t. If you are gay or trans you still benefit from capitalism, low taxes, a good strong economy, trade policies that benefit America, low unemployment and the right to bear arms to defend yourself against bigoted violent homophobes who are NOT one and the same with conservatives.

Yes! And I hate the way the MSM (specifically PBS/NPR, I assume the others are similar) gives anything to do with LGBT so much attention, always with a left-leaning political slant. It is always done in a very self-conscious, virtue-signaling way, very much the same way they handle issues related to race. IMO that is NOT what the news should be about, it should be about presenting facts accurately.

Also it is not just that the left has claimed LGBT - I can't think of a single lesbian that I know who isn't at least left-leaning. I have one close friend who is far-left progressive, and another who is only a little to the left of where I am today. I don't think I've ever met a conservative or even libertarian lesbian or gay person, though I know there must be many out there. But there is very strong peer pressure in the community toward leftism.

Lucifer, thanks for the links... I'm not surprised that Rapinoe is an activist and wouldn't be surprised to see her run for office. I just hadn't seen that stuff before - I don't generally watch CNN or MSNBC, and even the PBS Newshour feed that had the ticker tape parade got dropped here for some reason, so all I caught were short clips that aired later.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: nddons on July 11, 2019, 01:03:27 PM
Yes! And I hate the way the MSM (specifically PBS/NPR, I assume the others are similar) gives anything to do with LGBT so much attention, always with a left-leaning political slant. It is always done in a very self-conscious, virtue-signaling way, very much the same way they handle issues related to race. IMO that is NOT what the news should be about, it should be about presenting facts accurately.

Also it is not just that the left has claimed LGBT - I can't think of a single lesbian that I know who isn't at least left-leaning. I have one close friend who is far-left progressive, and another who is only a little to the left of where I am today. I don't think I've ever met a conservative or even libertarian lesbian or gay person, though I know there must be many out there. But there is very strong peer pressure in the community toward leftism.

Lucifer, thanks for the links... I'm not surprised that Rapinoe is an activist and wouldn't be surprised to see her run for office. I just hadn't seen that stuff before - I don't generally watch CNN or MSNBC, and even the PBS Newshour feed that had the ticker tape parade got dropped here for some reason, so all I caught were short clips that aired later.
Based on a couple gay conservatives that I know, “peer pressure” is an understatement.  The militant left seems SO unhinged at the thought of one of their own perceived constituencies crossing over to conservatism, that they do everything to ostracize if not destroy the “traitor.”  I’m not being hyperbolic either. This is what my friends have experienced.

Likewise for blacks who leave the plantation. Their treatment is worse.  Look at how Clarence Thomas and other numerous black conservatives are treated.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Rush on July 11, 2019, 01:09:38 PM
Yes! And I hate the way the MSM (specifically PBS/NPR, I assume the others are similar) gives anything to do with LGBT so much attention, always with a left-leaning political slant. It is always done in a very self-conscious, virtue-signaling way, very much the same way they handle issues related to race. IMO that is NOT what the news should be about, it should be about presenting facts accurately.

Also it is not just that the left has claimed LGBT - I can't think of a single lesbian that I know who isn't at least left-leaning. I have one close friend who is far-left progressive, and another who is only a little to the left of where I am today. I don't think I've ever met a conservative or even libertarian lesbian or gay person, though I know there must be many out there. But there is very strong peer pressure in the community toward leftism.

Lucifer, thanks for the links... I'm not surprised that Rapinoe is an activist and wouldn't be surprised to see her run for office. I just hadn't seen that stuff before - I don't generally watch CNN or MSNBC, and even the PBS Newshour feed that had the ticker tape parade got dropped here for some reason, so all I caught were short clips that aired later.

I’m sure there are still lots of conservative and libertarian gays but I’ve been out of the community pretty much for 30 years.  Things are different now, possibly gays, lesbians and trans don’t feel comfortable admitting they aren’t leftist, maybe there are closet conservatives. Back when I hung out with them, most in my circle were libertarian. A gay male couple that lived near us who we used to double date with when we first got married were conservative Republicans. We knew no one who was a progressive leftist. The community was largely underground and while they were socially liberal (wanting gay marriage and so forth) none of them were hard left socialists or communists. They believed in America and free enterprise. Many were small business owners. None of them would have supported what the far left is proposing now (universal guaranteed income, socialized medicine, destroying our energy industry, and taxing and regulating the economy to death.)

Back then a gay person could talk about being a fiscal conservative and nobody thought a thing about it, it was a non-issue. But now I get the idea the leftist gay community would violently reject one of their own for revealing they had such opinions. Just like the black community is brutal toward conservative blacks. It wasn’t like that back in my day. Gays just wanted equality with their romantic relationships, they didn’t tie it up with a whole communist thought system. It’s very disturbing the level of mind control the left demands from their “victim” groups.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Username on July 11, 2019, 01:53:46 PM
The disgusting attention whore managed to drive away HALF of the expected viewers based on viewership in other years.

Way to go stupid people!!!
Gee... if only those viewers had been there then their paycheck would have been higher.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 11, 2019, 02:05:39 PM
Based on a couple gay conservatives that I know, “peer pressure” is an understatement.  The militant left seems SO unhinged at the thought of one of their own perceived constituencies crossing over to conservatism, that they do everything to ostracize if not destroy the “traitor.”  I’m not being hyperbolic either. This is what my friends have experienced.

Likewise for blacks who leave the plantation. Their treatment is worse.  Look at how Clarence Thomas and other numerous black conservatives are treated.

Look at the liberal "war on conservative women". 
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 11, 2019, 02:32:58 PM
Progressives (Democrats) are waging a lot of wars on Americans they don't like these days.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 11, 2019, 03:01:17 PM
With regard to the left thinking gays must inevitably by leftists/socialists, there is this article from a hard-core Democrat on discovering otherwise:

"How To Not Lose Your Mind Interacting With Gay Republicans"
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-to-not-lose-your-mind-interacting-with-gay-republicans_b_57980184e4b0b3e2427d4329 (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-to-not-lose-your-mind-interacting-with-gay-republicans_b_57980184e4b0b3e2427d4329)

And yes, there is a group dedicated to gay Republicans:
http://www.logcabin.org/ (http://www.logcabin.org/)
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: nddons on July 11, 2019, 03:10:59 PM
Progressives (Democrats) are waging a lot of wars on Americans they don't like these days.
Stunning, isn’t it?  The group that owns the “diversity,” “inclusion” and “coexist” mantles don’t mean any of those things.  Go against their orthodoxy and you will be a victim of their war. 
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on July 11, 2019, 04:18:12 PM
Brandon Straka and WalkAway are working diligently to keep weakening the left’s stranglehold on people of all ilk.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ssNEJD3xC8A&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Number7 on July 11, 2019, 05:42:50 PM
Rapinoe is a very typical pushy, spoiled, angry, unsatisfied lesbian too stupid to take control of her life to solve her emotional problems.
 Rather than work on her own issues she spends her time hating men (sounds like Mari and aunt Peggy) demanding people treat her special and hating those of us who don’t think being queer makes her special.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 12, 2019, 09:21:38 AM
Rapinoe is a very typical pushy, spoiled, angry, unsatisfied lesbian too stupid to take control of her life to solve her emotional problems.
 Rather than work on her own issues she spends her time hating men (sounds like Mari and aunt Peggy) demanding people treat her special and hating those of us who don’t think being queer makes her special.

Maybe Azure and/or Rush can comment on this, but recently I've read that Lesbians are more likely to have Borderline Personality Disorder, and other emotional issues.  It may be we just see and hear the angry, bitter, complainers like Rapinoe, and others that show narcissistic and borderline tendencies. 
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: azure on July 12, 2019, 09:59:12 AM
Maybe Azure and/or Rush can comment on this, but recently I've read that Lesbians are more likely to have Borderline Personality Disorder, and other emotional issues.  It may be we just see and hear the angry, bitter, complainers like Rapinoe, and others that show narcissistic and borderline tendencies.

Could you post a link to the article?

All I could offer would be anecdotes, but personally, I haven't seen it. And I would wonder whether that BPD was clinically diagnosed by a psychiatrist, or based on testing like the MMPI, or worse, based on someone's (non-professional) interaction with them.

Of course, being Gay or Lesbian today is more widely accepted, but back in the day, was liable to get you fired from your job, or run out of public establishments, or denied credit, or just socially ostracized, if you were out and open. Living in secrecy and under societal stigma does take a psychic toll on people, so if there is any elevated risk of mental illness (and there might be), I would expect it has more to do with that, than that being gay or lesbian is in some direct way connected with mental dysfunction.

I have a friend who is open about needing psychotherapy, and probably has anxiety disorder and other psychiatric diagnoses on her record. The lesbian community in my experience is very supportive of women needing help handling the stresses of life, so many do go into therapy. Mental health clinics, like many medical clinics, regularly up-code to maximize insurance payouts. So I also wonder if the statistics might be skewed because of that.

But it all depends on the source, and the details.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: nddons on July 12, 2019, 10:43:10 AM
Could you post a link to the article?

All I could offer would be anecdotes, but personally, I haven't seen it. And I would wonder whether that BPD was clinically diagnosed by a psychiatrist, or based on testing like the MMPI, or worse, based on someone's (non-professional) interaction with them.

Of course, being Gay or Lesbian today is more widely accepted, but back in the day, was liable to get you fired from your job, or run out of public establishments, or denied credit, or just socially ostracized, if you were out and open. Living in secrecy and under societal stigma does take a psychic toll on people, so if there is any elevated risk of mental illness (and there might be), I would expect it has more to do with that, than that being gay or lesbian is in some direct way connected with mental dysfunction.

I have a friend who is open about needing psychotherapy, and probably has anxiety disorder and other psychiatric diagnoses on her record. The lesbian community in my experience is very supportive of women needing help handling the stresses of life, so many do go into therapy. Mental health clinics, like many medical clinics, regularly up-code to maximize insurance payouts. So I also wonder if the statistics might be skewed because of that.

But it all depends on the source, and the details.
With respect to gay or lesbian, how long ago was “back in the day?”  I ask because the militant, angry LGB community acts like they are living in the 1600’s, not in 2019.  I will argue that life as an LGB has never been better or easier than it has been in pretty much all of Rapinoe’s entire post-pubescent life. But you wouldn’t know that by hearing her bitch about Trump, who has done nothing to earn the charges she has levied on him.

The situation is similar with the race hustlers and their political servants. You would think that race relations in the USA are identical to 1962 - or even 1862 for that matter. 

The cognitive dissonance of the left is stunning, but the complicit media doesn’t challenge that. Instead, it cheerleads it.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Rush on July 12, 2019, 10:52:16 AM
Maybe Azure and/or Rush can comment on this, but recently I've read that Lesbians are more likely to have Borderline Personality Disorder, and other emotional issues.  It may be we just see and hear the angry, bitter, complainers like Rapinoe, and others that show narcissistic and borderline tendencies.

I agree with what Azure says, I would need to see the data.  Just from my personal interactions, I do not sense gays and lesbians have any greater rate of primary mental disorders than straight people, however just as Azure says, they did have secondary disorders that I believe were directly related to their difficulties with other people, such as being rejected by their family, and being persecuted by society in general. These were mostly depression and anxiety.

Transgender on the other hand is a very different story, with much more severe signs of things like suicidal depression, PTSD-like paranoia, and possibly BPD, because one big feature of BPD is lack of stable identity. But even so these could be secondary to their gender dysphoria and very understandably so.  Transgender is way less acceptable in society than just being homosexual. There is no way I'd be able to tell if these were a higher rate of primary disease than second to their gender identity issue. This is just my observation and hardly scientific.

Something to keep in mind when talking about narcissism and BPD is that gender biases perception, and these disorders present differently in males and females. Lesbians who embrace a more masculine persona (even if not trans) possibly display behaviors that would be considered normal in males but appear to be abnormal in females, such as less expression of empathy and greater tendency to aggression. I'd be interested in reading the source of whatever it was you read, to see how they came up with their conclusion.

Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Rush on July 12, 2019, 11:11:00 AM
With respect to gay or lesbian, how long ago was “back in the day?”  I ask because the militant, angry LGB community acts like they are living in the 1600’s, not in 2019.  I will argue that life as an LGB has never been better or easier than it has been in pretty much all of Rapinoe’s entire post-pubescent life. But you wouldn’t know that by hearing her bitch about Trump, who has done nothing to earn the charges she has levied on him.

The situation is similar with the race hustlers and their political servants. You would think that race relations in the USA are identical to 1962 - or even 1862 for that matter. 

The cognitive dissonance of the left is stunning, but the complicit media doesn’t challenge that. Instead, it cheerleads it.

This is exactly why I am so deeply pissed off at these LGBTXYZ activists today.  For me, "back in the day" was the 70s and 80s, right in the "gay holocaust" (AIDS).  The gays and lesbians and transgenders I knew were nothing like these leftist monsters today - nothing. They wanted equality, not revenge. They wanted acceptance, not reparations. The idea of reparations would be utterly ludicrous to them. But most of all they were concerned with what anyone is - to survive, be healthy, to find love, and to be successful at one's career. That's what they thought about; they didn't think of themselves as victims before anything else. They wanted to assimilate into American culture and to be accepted by it, not to change America into a third world communist shithole. That's what's most wrong with the LGBT "cause" today - they mate it up with leftism.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Little Joe on July 12, 2019, 11:23:08 AM
I agree with what Azure says, I would need to see the data. 

I have to agree with Azure too.  "Back in the day", when I was a teen ('60s) nobody thought twice about tagging someone they didn't like as "queer".  Queers, or suspected queers were ostracized.

By the '70s, I had several gay male friends (work colleagues) that were somewhat open about it, but only among friends.  I was one of their few straight friends.  But they still received a lot of social disdain.

Then in the '80s and '90s I worked with quite a few gay women who were also somewhat open about it.  They had less stigma attached than I saw in the '70s, but it still wasn't generally accepted, although where I worked, everyone knew and accepted them, because the knew them.  But they still had reservations about coming out to the world.

Even as recently as 10 or 15 years ago, it wasn't as "accepted" as it is today.  And there has been even more change and acceptance in the last 5 years.  But there is still a lot of stigma attached to being gay.

But there is one thing that bothers me.  I see just as much prejudice against gays by so-called liberals as I do conservatives.  Maybe more.  The difference is that many liberals that I know lie about their anti-gay feelings because it isn't politically correct to come out and admit it.  But if you talk to them in private, it comes through loud and clear.

One last point I want to make:  Weather you agree with gay marriage or not, it is none of the governments business, and it is none of my business if gays wish to marry.  This is probably one of the biggest reasons conservatives are labeled as homophobic, and they need to get over it or accept the label.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: azure on July 12, 2019, 11:24:19 AM
With respect to gay or lesbian, how long ago was “back in the day?”  I ask because the militant, angry LGB community acts like they are living in the 1600’s, not in 2019.  I will argue that life as an LGB has never been better or easier than it has been in pretty much all of Rapinoe’s entire post-pubescent life. But you wouldn’t know that by hearing her bitch about Trump, who has done nothing to earn the charges she has levied on him.

The situation is similar with the race hustlers and their political servants. You would think that race relations in the USA are identical to 1962 - or even 1862 for that matter. 

The cognitive dissonance of the left is stunning, but the complicit media doesn’t challenge that. Instead, it cheerleads it.

"Back in the day" means back when I was young - 1970s really, but i would say well into the '80s and even '90s. Yes, things are MUCH better now, in most places, and there is less social stigma, though it is still possible in many places to get fired for being gay. It really varies a lot depending on community, profession, and probably regionally too. Here in VT, even at a military college, I'm not particularly concerned about people knowing. If I were in rural Alabama, maybe I would feel differently.

So I'm not even ready to diss Rapinoe, though she is young, because I don't know much about the circumstances of her growing up. I will say that breaking protocol re: the National Anthem would not go over well here. Professors outside on campus have gotten in trouble for not standing at attention during the daily flag raising and lowering. It's one thing to criticize the President, but showing disrespect for a symbol of national pride is something I find contemptible... reminds me of flag burning back in the Vietnam era. I thought we were past that stage, but I guess every new generation has to rediscover all the old ways of being offensive.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 12, 2019, 11:39:43 AM

... This is probably one of the biggest reasons conservatives are labeled as homophobic, and they need to get over it or accept the label.

it's more than unfortunate that the definition of "homophobic" has been so badly bastardized.

Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Little Joe on July 12, 2019, 11:56:48 AM
it's more than unfortunate that the definition of "homophobic" has been so badly bastardized.
If I understand what you are saying, I agree.

To me, "homophobic" means being afraid of gays.  But it is used to describe people that just don't like gays.  But since that seems to be the accepted usage, and I can't think of a better word, that is the one I used.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Number7 on July 12, 2019, 12:08:30 PM
If I understand what you are saying, I agree.

To me, "homophobic" means being afraid of gays.  But it is used to describe people that just don't like gays.  But since that seems to be the accepted usage, and I can't think of a better word, that is the one I used.

Homophobe is interchangeable with racist these days.

All it means these days is that someone dared to disagree with a liberal about something

As soon you disagree with the pc you are automatically labeled a racist, sexist, homophobe because liberals are far too shallow to actually think or engage in debate.

For the record, I don’t care if screw bed posts. It makes no difference to me but when mentally disturbed homosexuals demand I pretend to respect them solely because of their taste in sexual partners and pretend that I am required to give them special status, they can go suck my shoelaces.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Little Joe on July 12, 2019, 12:20:58 PM
Homophobe is interchangeable with racist these days.

All it means these days is that someone dared to disagree with a liberal about something

As soon you disagree with the pc you are automatically labeled a racist, sexist, homophobe because liberals are far too shallow to actually think or engage in debate.

For the record, I don’t care if screw bed posts. It makes no difference to me but when mentally disturbed homosexuals demand I pretend to respect them solely because of their taste in sexual partners and pretend that I am required to give them special status, they can go suck my shoelaces.
I'll go along with you as far a no one gets respect because they demand it.  They must earn it..
Same goes for special status.  Gays, and everyone else, deserve equal status, until they prove they don't.

There is no defending the liberal knee-jerk reaction of branding anyone that doesn't agree with everything they say with all of those various labels.  My in-laws brand me racist and homophobic strictly because I am conservative and not a robotized socialist.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Rush on July 12, 2019, 12:51:59 PM
it's more than unfortunate that the definition of "homophobic" has been so badly bastardized.

Technically, "phobia" refers to irrational fear of something. Xenophobia is fear of foreigners, homophobia is fear of homosexuals.  I suppose there really is such a thing, but the terms being used today are far from that definition.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 12, 2019, 06:38:46 PM
it's more than unfortunate that the definition of "homophobic" has been so badly bastardized.
As has "racist"
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 12, 2019, 07:23:06 PM
As has "racist"

Racist="we don't agree with you"
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 13, 2019, 06:16:50 AM
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Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 13, 2019, 06:19:23 AM
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Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 13, 2019, 06:20:08 AM
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Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: jb1842 on July 13, 2019, 12:15:37 PM
I'm gonna leave this here.

 https://nypost.com/2019/07/13/megan-rapinoe-wrongly-thinks-shes-a-preacher-not-a-player/
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 13, 2019, 12:34:15 PM
^^^^^^From the article.

Quote
she told an obscure magazine called Eight by Eight, “I’m not going to the f–king White House” if the women’s soccer team should be invited there.

This week Rapinoe sounded a more muted tone about Trump, saying she was against him because she figured he was against her: “You’re excluding me, you’re excluding people that look like me, you’re excluding people of color, you’re excluding Americans that maybe support you,” she said she would like to tell Trump, on “Anderson Cooper 360.”

How is Trump "EXCLUDING" LGBT, People of Color, and people that may support him?   I recently saw a picture of Rapinoe with Hillary from what I assume was during the campaign.  It is obvious she is still all BUTT HURT over Hillary losing.  Well too bad.  Get over it, and stop making shit up about Trump. 

This arrogant hag is already OLD NEWS, and had her fifteen minutes. Buh Bye!

Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Lucifer on July 13, 2019, 01:11:38 PM
That’s EXACTLY what it’s about..... Butthurt that Felonious lost. 
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Rush on July 13, 2019, 01:45:05 PM
That and these people have such a twisted warped idea of anyone not leftist. They truly believe Trump and conservatives and anyone not progressive left are evil. It’s mind boggling how their idea of us differs from reality. The most ironic thing of all is that it is they, not us, who are the intolerant bigots.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 13, 2019, 01:58:56 PM
That and these people have such a twisted warped idea of anyone not leftist. They truly believe Trump and conservatives and anyone not progressive left are evil. It’s mind boggling how their idea of us differs from reality. The most ironic thing of all is that it is they, not us, who are the intolerant bigots.

It is because they are CONTROL FREAKS (fascists).  That's why they want to ban and remove anything in which they disagree.  Murals, Statues, Paintings, Symbols, whatever.  It's not just good enough that they ignore them, they must remove them so YOU can't see them either.  They use that they are offended, and now a mural on a school wall "traumatizes" students, yet it has been there since FDR in the 30's.  So, why weren't those many generations of previous students "traumatized" and "offended"?
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: jb1842 on July 13, 2019, 02:09:02 PM
Just because you are offended, doesn't mean you are right.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: NippleBoy on July 14, 2019, 10:31:04 PM
This arrogant hag is already OLD NEWS, and had her fifteen minutes. Buh Bye!

Shouldn't have been news to begin with. The news should have been how well she played. And I imagine she's a good player otherwise she wouldn't be on the team. At least I hope not.
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Anthony on July 15, 2019, 07:14:53 AM
Shouldn't have been news to begin with. The news should have been how well she played. And I imagine she's a good player otherwise she wouldn't be on the team. At least I hope not.

She is a VERY good player, but she is 34 and this is probably her last World Cup, so needs to promote herself for that Nike, or other large contract to companies that want to virtue signal that they are "WOKE". 
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on July 15, 2019, 10:49:54 AM
Our moonbat governor says he’d make her Secretary of State if elected.

Not the Onion.

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/inslee-jokes-that-he-would-ask-soccer-star-megan-rapinoe-to-be-his-secretary-of-state/967090944
Title: Re: Left melts down over Trump's 4th of July Parade
Post by: NippleBoy on July 17, 2019, 07:56:40 PM
She is a VERY good player, but she is 34 and this is probably her last World Cup, so needs to promote herself for that Nike, or other large contract to companies that want to virtue signal that they are "WOKE".

Sigh... Yeah...