Post by: nddons on July 15, 2019, 03:29:54 PM
Here’s a video of what I do, filed by one of my fellow Flightline Ops volunteers:
https://vimeo.com/101124239?ref=em-share
Or:
https://vimeo.com/101124239
If you’re flying in, give your marshalers a nice wave and a thank you. We will be spending 3-4 hours at a crack standing on taxiways in the brutal heat (or rain and thunderstorms depending on the hour) keeping traffic moving safely.
Keep up the good fight in the Spin Zone while I’m gone!
Post by: Anthony on July 15, 2019, 03:32:28 PM
Post by: Username on July 15, 2019, 03:43:12 PM
Post by: nddons on July 15, 2019, 03:46:43 PM
Very cool Stan!!! That looks like a blast. Enjoy it!Thanks Anthony. Best job at EAA! This is my 9th year doing this.
Post by: nddons on July 15, 2019, 03:48:39 PM
It's fun to track where people are from by what they call it. Most everyone calls it Oshkosh. Except in Wisconsin where it's "The EAA". Unless you work for EAA and then it's AirVenture. Or you're an old fart in Wisconsin and it's "the convention".Ha, I think I used all 3 in my OP. Yes, it’s a blast to see what people call it. Despite decades of marketing, AirVenture is secondary to Oshkosh or EAA.
Post by: Number7 on July 15, 2019, 07:46:43 PM
Post by: nddons on July 15, 2019, 07:57:27 PM
Be safe and have fun!Roger that. I flew a Warbird into the show the last two years, but will not this year, so everyone on the ground should be safe.
Post by: Steingar on July 16, 2019, 05:50:20 AM
Post by: Anthony on July 16, 2019, 06:11:45 AM
Just printed out my signs. I'll be teaching Origami every day at the Activities Center (formerly the Craft Tent) from 1-2:30.
So they can find you and beat you up like last year?
:)
Post by: Steingar on July 16, 2019, 07:09:28 AM
So they can find you and beat you up like last year?No one assaulted me last year, but I think I taught Origami to around 100 people. But what do you care? You don't even go to Oshkosh.
:)
Post by: Anthony on July 16, 2019, 07:36:23 AM
No one assaulted me last year, but I think I taught Origami to around 100 people. But what do you care? You don't even go to Oshkosh.
How do you know? I haven't gone for a few years, but have been several times in the past, and have flown there using Appleton as my preferred airport then took the shuttle down to Osh.
Did you see the smiley face? It was said to be funny, yet we all know some don't have a sense of humor.
Post by: Steingar on July 16, 2019, 08:29:50 AM
How do you know? I haven't gone for a few years, but have been several times in the past, and have flown there using Appleton as my preferred airport then took the shuttle down to Osh.Smiley face can mean lots of things, including you liking that I got beat up. Anyhow, I've never seen you there ever. Not surprised you haven't the stones for the Osh approach though.
Did you see the smiley face? It was said to be funny, yet we all know some don't have a sense of humor.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 16, 2019, 08:41:54 AM
Post by: Anthony on July 16, 2019, 08:43:16 AM
Smiley face can mean lots of things, including you liking that I got beat up. Anyhow, I've never seen you there ever. Not surprised you haven't the stones for the Osh approach though.
So before it was I didn't go, now it is my choice of airports in which to fly in? How about traffic, convenience, and getting clearances out of Osh? Ever think of that?
You haven't seen me there? Well, I didn't think I needed your permission to go, or have to notify you of my attendance. Jeez, Mike, didn't think you wanted to spend time with me there like that. :)
You seriously think I'd want to see you beat up? Wow. Paranoid much?
Post by: Steingar on July 16, 2019, 08:47:25 AM
So before it was I didn't go, now it is my choice of airports in which to fly in? How about traffic, convenience, and getting clearances out of Osh? Ever think of that?
You haven't seen me there? Well, I didn't think I needed your permission to go, or have to notify you of my attendance. Jeez, Mike, didn't think you wanted to spend time with me there like that. :)
You seriously think I'd want to see you beat up? Wow. Paranoid much?
Sorry, flying hundreds of miles and then stopping short of one of the hardest approaches speaks to me. I've been there every year for the last couple decades, so I was a little surprised I didn't run into you, even though its a big show. I've only ever had one time it was hard to get in, and that was last year. I've never had even a bit of trouble getting out, other than spending a long time taxiing in the heat. Oh but the airplanes you see!
I suppose you're just too special to mix it up with the rest of us. But according to me, in for a penny, in for a pound. if you're going to go that far you should just got he rest of the way. My goodness it's fun. if you have the stones for it, that is. Not everyone does.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on July 16, 2019, 09:05:06 AM
Sorry, flying hundreds of miles and then stopping short of one of the hardest approaches speaks to me. I've been there every year for the last couple decades, so I was a little surprised I didn't run into you, even though its a big show. I've only ever had one time it was hard to get in, and that was last year. I've never had even a bit of trouble getting out, other than spending a long time taxiing in the heat. Oh but the airplanes you see!What the hell deficiencies are you trying to compensate for? Do you ever read what you write before posting it? Is PilotSpin the figurative dog you kick to relieve some kind of frustration?
I suppose you're just too special to mix it up with the rest of us. But according to me, in for a penny, in for a pound. if you're going to go that far you should just got he rest of the way. My goodness it's fun. if you have the stones for it, that is. Not everyone does.
Post by: Anthony on July 16, 2019, 09:53:05 AM
What the hell deficiencies are you trying to compensate for? Do you ever read what you write before posting it? Is PilotSpin the figurative dog you kick to relieve some kind of frustration?
I don't even want to respond to him anymore. Wow.
I will say this. In 25 years of flying, I have never had a mishap, incident, nor accident. NEVER. Even flying a plane known for its unforgiving landing characteristics. I doubt Michael can say the same thing.
Post by: Lucifer on July 16, 2019, 10:18:46 AM
Smiley face can mean lots of things, including you liking that I got beat up. Anyhow, I've never seen you there ever. Not surprised you haven't the stones for the Osh approach though.
Playing the victim again?
Post by: Jim Logajan on July 16, 2019, 10:41:03 AM
So they can find you and beat you up like last year?
:)
wtf?
Post by: Anthony on July 16, 2019, 10:47:25 AM
wtf?
It was a joke Jim. That's why I put the smiley face. Little nerdy guy (think Woody Allen) doing Origami, bunch of bully pilots...……..
Seriously? I know Michael (Steingar) personally, and he knows me, and is just trying to get attention. He also knows my sense of humor.
Jesus.
Post by: Lucifer on July 16, 2019, 10:50:00 AM
It was a joke Jim. That's why I put the smiley face. Little nerdy guy (think Woody Allen) doing Origami, bunch of bully pilots...……..
Seriously?
OMG! OMG! OMG!
Racist! White Nationalist!!! Homophobe!!!!
::)
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 16, 2019, 11:22:35 AM
It was a joke Jim. That's why I put the smiley face. Little nerdy guy (think Woody Allen) doing Origami, bunch of bully pilots...……..
Seriously? I know Michael (Steingar) personally, and he knows me, and is just trying to get attention. He also knows my sense of humor.
Jesus.
perhaps he (Steingar) was yanking your chain...
Post by: Anthony on July 16, 2019, 11:29:02 AM
perhaps he (Steingar) was yanking your chain...
No way in Hell. Read his subsequent responses.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 16, 2019, 11:34:00 AM
No way in Hell. Read his subsequent responses.
just a prolonged yank....
(btw - I did laugh at your original post... in other words, I understood the humor)
Post by: Steingar on July 16, 2019, 11:42:46 AM
I will say this. In 25 years of flying, I have never had a mishap, incident, nor accident. NEVER. Even flying a plane known for its unforgiving landing characteristics. I doubt Michael can say the same thing.
Sadly, you are correct. I have had one very expensive incident that was entirely my own fault. Perhaps that makes you the better pilot.
Post by: Anthony on July 16, 2019, 11:48:09 AM
Sadly, you are correct. I have had one very expensive incident that was entirely my own fault. Perhaps that makes you the better pilot.
Nobody made this about anyone's skills until you're statements about my choice of airports at Osh and my lack of "stones".
This thread should be about STAN'S tremendous job at Osh, and that he's earned the privilege to fly really cool airplanes.
Post by: Username on July 16, 2019, 11:58:02 AM
I don't even want to respond to him anymore. Wow.If I may ask, what do you fly?
I will say this. In 25 years of flying, I have never had a mishap, incident, nor accident. NEVER. Even flying a plane known for its unforgiving landing characteristics. I doubt Michael can say the same thing.
Post by: Anthony on July 16, 2019, 12:11:30 PM
If I may ask, what do you fly?
I had a Grumman Tiger for 16 years until a few years ago when I sold it due to a really expensive divorce! It was worth it though!
The Tiger is not difficult to land, nor fly, you just have to pay attention to your speed on final or you will float all the way down the runway. Some pilots try to force it onto the runway which creates pilot induced osculation, and potential prop strikes. The solution if you are hot, high or both, is to go around and not force it to land before it is ready.
Post by: nddons on July 16, 2019, 12:43:24 PM
What the hell deficiencies are you trying to compensate for? Do you ever read what you write before posting it? Is PilotSpin the figurative dog you kick to relieve some kind of frustration?He has a lot for which to compensate.
Post by: nddons on July 16, 2019, 12:46:55 PM
OMG! OMG! OMG!Halliburton! Oh wait, that was last century’s insult de jure.
Racist! White Nationalist!!! Homophobe!!!!
::)
Post by: nddons on July 16, 2019, 12:55:21 PM
Nobody made this about anyone's skills until you're statements about my choice of airports at Osh and my lack of "stones".Thanks Anthony. No drama! This is my vacation! I’ll post some pics if I can.
This thread should be about STAN'S tremendous job at Osh, and that he's earned the privilege to fly really cool airplanes.
One of my favorite times working Flightline Ops is at the end of the last shift of the day, standing out at the intersection of Twy Alpha and runway 13/31. The departure conga line settles down, the last flight departs, ATC announces on freq. that the airport is closed per the NOTAM, and OSH settles into a peaceful quiet that it hasn’t heard since the Mustang fired up at 0600 that morning.
I’ll try to take a pic of that moment on Friday. It’s usually accompanied by a beautiful red sunset.
Post by: jb1842 on July 16, 2019, 05:40:06 PM
Post by: nddons on July 16, 2019, 07:50:48 PM
Those 0600 Mustang flights are the 2nd best way to wake up in the morning.I’d second that. We’re on the same page.
I’d prefer those Merlin’s fire up around 0700, but still cool. I’m about 300 yards away from them in Warbirds camping when they fire up.
Post by: jb1842 on July 17, 2019, 12:49:56 PM
Post by: nddons on July 19, 2019, 04:25:49 AM
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Post by: jb1842 on July 19, 2019, 07:39:31 AM
Post by: Anthony on July 19, 2019, 07:41:03 AM
And we have our first incident! A Long EZ just landed gear up on 27 this morning.
It was reported the pilot's name was a J. Denver.
Post by: jb1842 on July 19, 2019, 07:41:59 AM
Post by: Lucifer on July 19, 2019, 09:07:22 AM
Post by: nddons on July 19, 2019, 08:55:43 PM
Stan, heading over to Half-Cocked's HOPS party?Nah. Been there done that. Too many POA fan boys. Much more fun drinking with real friends in Warbirds camping. Nothing against Half-Cocked (never heard that - ha!) but it’s just a little weird.
Post by: nddons on July 19, 2019, 09:00:15 PM
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Read the NOTAM or you’ll get the paddle!
Post by: Lucifer on July 20, 2019, 05:01:35 AM
Nah. Been there done that. Too many POA fan boys. Much more fun drinking with real friends in Warbirds camping. Nothing against Half-Cocked (never heard that - ha!) but it’s just a little weird.
He got that nick name when he was writing for a newspaper. Guess why?
Post by: Anthony on July 20, 2019, 05:26:33 AM
Post by: jb1842 on July 20, 2019, 05:51:49 AM
Here was my office for tonight’s shift. Threshold of 18. Over 95 degrees at 4:00. Traffic was really light all day today, so this weekend will be busy.
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Read the NOTAM or you’ll get the paddle!
You got rain gear for today?
Post by: nddons on July 20, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
You got rain gear for today?"I'd keep playing. I don't think the heavy stuff's going to come down for quite a while."
Carl Spackler
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Post by: jb1842 on July 20, 2019, 10:13:14 AM
Post by: nddons on July 20, 2019, 10:46:23 AM
That's going to mess with arrivals a little bit.I’m supposed to be on a shift right now but
Obviously FLO got off the field. As long as I still hear thunder I’m not leaving my trailer.
Post by: nddons on July 20, 2019, 10:47:18 AM
That's going to mess with arrivals a little bit.They’re talking 1-2” of rain. I can’t see any aircraft grass parking going on today.
Post by: jb1842 on July 20, 2019, 10:58:24 AM
They’re talking 1-2” of rain. I can’t see any aircraft grass parking going on today.
Is that total or just for the first band? You can see standing water on the warbirds cam.
Post by: nddons on July 20, 2019, 12:44:00 PM
Is that total or just for the first band? You can see standing water on the warbirds cam.Round 3 just passed. All grass parking and taxiways are closed.
Post by: jb1842 on July 20, 2019, 01:46:21 PM
Round 3 just passed. All grass parking and taxiways are closed.
You can see small lakes in the webcams
Post by: nddons on July 23, 2019, 09:42:19 AM
You Seinfeld fans will get a kick out of this.
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Post by: Anthony on July 23, 2019, 09:57:21 AM
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on July 23, 2019, 11:07:49 AM
Post by: nddons on July 23, 2019, 09:13:53 PM
Post by: nddons on July 25, 2019, 06:45:33 AM
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Post by: nddons on July 25, 2019, 06:47:58 AM
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Me at my Oshkosh office. Intersection of 9/27 and 13/31 (used as a taxiway during the show). Traffic coming from three directions.
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Post by: Anthony on July 25, 2019, 06:52:24 AM
Post by: Little Joe on July 25, 2019, 06:54:59 AM
Interesting pics. Look at the ridiculous useful load on this Pilatus:Is that a mistake? 680# minus 432# fuel leaves 248 useful with full fuel. I could fly it, but I couldn't carry anyone.
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Post by: nddons on July 26, 2019, 05:54:07 PM
Is that a mistake? 680# minus 432# fuel leaves 248 useful with full fuel. I could fly it, but I couldn't carry anyone.No mistake. I’ve been following this online thinking that the ads in Trade a Plane or whatever was wrong. Since the owner seems to have flown it in and taped that to the fuselage I take it as correct.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on July 30, 2019, 04:30:56 PM
Post by: nddons on July 30, 2019, 09:24:15 PM
So, was there anything special that come up at Oshkosh/Airventure?The Blue Angels did a surprise Monday flyover - heading 090 with a beg sweeping left 270 degree turn to 180 and depart to the south.
The Thunderbirds wouldn’t be outdone as they were at the nearby Milwaukee Air and Water Show, and did a mini routine on Thursday at 1430.
The Fairey Firefly, a British carrier-based Fighter was a magnificent restoration.
The XP-82 Twin Mustang was not really impressive to me. It just seems wrong. Aluminum wasn’t polished.
Post by: Anthony on July 31, 2019, 03:46:01 AM
Post by: nddons on July 31, 2019, 12:06:15 PM
The Blues and Thunderbirds are always really cool to see. Was the JU-52 there giving rides again?I didn’t see that. Of course the Tri-Motors were giving rides on the field. Bombers were giving rides out of Appleton. And a cool 2-seat P-40 was giving rides out of Fond du Lac.
At the North American Trainer Association annual meeting on Thursday they were giving away door prizes from a couple of cases of oil to a ride in the P-51 “Gunfighter”, and a P-40 ride. They called the winner: “Stan.....XYZ.” (Not me, but the winner was staying in the trailer next to me. He flies a South African T-6, and is also my AME.). Damnit!!!!
https://www.warbirdadventures.com/tp-40-flights
Post by: Anthony on July 31, 2019, 12:22:52 PM
Post by: nddons on July 31, 2019, 01:17:27 PM
That P-40 is really cool!And according to people who know these things (I spent 10 days in Warbird Camping, lots of knowledge there (as well as LOTs of gin)) that back seat isn’t a cobbled modification. It was a factory “kit” that the USAAF had to make this single seat fighter into dual control aircraft.
Rides were $1,850. From the three that I know that took it (all already pilots who got to actually fly it including acro) it was worth it.
Post by: Anthony on July 31, 2019, 02:18:12 PM
And according to people who know these things (I spent 10 days in Warbird Camping, lots of knowledge there (as well as LOTs of gin)) that back seat isn’t a cobbled modification. It was a factory “kit” that the USAAF had to make this single seat fighter into dual control aircraft.
Rides were $1,850. From the three that I know that took it (all already pilots who got to actually fly it including acro) it was worth it.
That's really neat. I am fortunate to live about 45 minutes from Reading, PA where they have the WWII weekend in June every year at KRDG. The always have P-40's. This year they had three as well as P-51's, B-17's, a Liberator, and a bunch of others. It is like a mini OSH, in that it has some odd stuff as well.
http://warbirdsnews.com/airshow-news/mid-atlantic-air-museum-wwii-weekend-2019-air-show-report.html